Privia Health Group - Q1 2023
May 4, 2023
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Privia Health Q1 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press * one one on your telephone, and you will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press * one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Robert Borcherding. Robert, please go ahead.
Robert Borcherding (SVP, Investor and Corporate Communications)
Thank you, Kyle, and good morning, everyone. Joining me today are Shawn Morris, our Chief Executive Officer, Parth Mehrotra, President, Chief Operating Officer, and David Mountcastle, our Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and may be accessed from the investor relations section of priviahealth.com. Today's press release, highlighting our financial and operating performance and the slide presentation accompanying our formal remarks are posted on the investor relations pages of priviahealth.com. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. Please limit yourself to one question only and return to the queue if you have a follow-,up so we can get to as many questions as possible.
The financial results reported today and in the press release are preliminary and are not final until our Form 10-Q for the Q1 ended March 31st, 2023, is filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which was filed earlier today. Some of the statements we will make today are forward-looking in nature based on our current expectations and view of our business as of May 4th, 2023. Such statements, including those related to our future financial and operating performance and future business plans and objectives, are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. As a result, these statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements in today's press release and the risk factors described in our company's most recent SEC filings.
Finally, we may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures on the call and reconciliations of these measures to comparable GAAP measures are included in our press release and the accompanying slide presentation posted on our website. Now, I'll turn the call over to Shawn.
Shawn Morris (CEO)
Thank you, Robert. Good morning, everyone. Privia Health delivered solid Q1 results to start 2023 as we continue to execute in each of our markets. We remain focused on driving towards our long-term vision to build Privia Health into one of the largest ambulatory care delivery networks in the nation. Our market momentum and highly aligned partnership model continue to drive growth on multiple fronts and support our high-level confidence in our 2023 outlook. This morning, I'll review a few business highlights, Parth will offer a market and operational update, David will discuss our recent financial performance and our 2023 guidance outlook before we take your questions. During the Q1, Privia Health continued to execute at a very high-level with practice collections increasing more than 17% year-over-year.
Adjusted EBITDA was up almost 14% as we continue to increase our number of provider partners and invest in our recent new market entries. This performance was again driven by continued same-store growth as well as our new provider additions in existing markets. In the last few months, we've entered 4 new states and have already signed new providers in our medical group platforms in Connecticut, North Carolina, and Ohio. We continue to see a very strong sales funnel of potential new providers across our markets and are maintaining a healthy business development pipeline as we look to enter additional states over the next few years. Separately, we are very excited and have launched and priced this morning a large secondary offering of the company's total diluted shares outstanding. This transaction substantially reduces or eliminates Goldman Sachs and Pamplona Capital's ownership.
We're also very excited to welcome a number of new long-term oriented investors, including Durable Capital Partners and Rubicon Founders, among others, who purchased shares in this transaction. The entire Privia team looks forward to executing on our strategy to continue to create value for our shareholders in years to come. In other news, we recently announced that I plan to retire at the end of June, and our board of directors named Parth Mehrotra to succeed me as Chief Executive Officer of Privia Health. I decided that now was an opportune time to step away from my operating role to spend more time focused on my personal interest. I will remain on the Privia board, and I look forward to continuing to track Privia's future success. Parth and I have worked very closely together over the last five years.
As many of you know, Parth has been an integral part of establishing Privia's presence in many new states, taking our company public in 2021, and directing Privia's growth. We expect a very smooth transition, and it will be exciting to watch Parth and our leadership team drive Privia's next phase of growth. It's been a privilege to interact with many of you and the more than 900 Privians dedicated to improving health. Now I'll ask Parth to provide a market and operational update.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thank you, Sean. It has been an absolute pleasure to work with you and a privilege to succeed you as CEO. We continue to expand Privia's national footprint, which now includes more than 3,700 implemented providers in our medical groups, caring for over 4.4 million patients in 970 locations. We believe our scale and diverse provider and payer partnerships offer a true differentiator as we build one of the largest multi-specialty medical groups and ambulatory care delivery networks in the country that can improve patient outcomes and reduce costs. We are ahead of our growth plan in each of our new markets and expect to add new implemented providers in Connecticut, North Carolina, and Ohio before the end of this calendar year. Privia's value-based care platform continues to be one of the broadest, most balanced, and diversified in the industry.
We cover more than 1 million attributed lives across more than 100 at-risk payer contracts in commercial and government programs.
Total attributed lives increased more than 22% from a year ago, driven by our new ACOs in 2023, including our partnerships with Community Medical Group in Connecticut and Beebe Healthcare in Delaware. Our quarter-end attributed lives includes the impact of a joint decision with a health plan partner to pause one capitated MA risk arrangement for performance year 2023. The health plan terminated its relationship with the technology services provider earlier this year, and as a result, given the health plan's near-term operating challenges, we both decided to pause the capitated arrangement. We will continue to serve these MA patients as before, with a focus on improving patient outcomes and reducing the total cost of care, and we'll jointly reevaluate the downside risk arrangement for performance year 2024.
Overall, our value-based book of business performed very well in 2022 and in the Q1 of 2023, and there remains a significant embedded opportunity for us to thoughtfully move MA lives into capitated arrangements over the next few years. Now I'll ask David to review our recent financial results and 2023 outlook.
David Mountcastle (CFO)
Thank you, Parth. Privia Health delivered another solid quarter of performance in the first three months of 2023. Our implemented provider count of 3,716 was up 10.3% year-over-year. Solid ambulatory utilization trends, new implemented providers, and additional attributed lives led to practice collections increasing 17.3% from Q1 a year ago to reach $658.9 million. We continue to generate operating leverage with Adjusted EBITDA up 13.9% over Q1 last year to $16.9 million. Total value-based care comprised 33.8% of total GAAP revenue in the Q1 of 2023, compared to 27.1% in Q1 a year ago, which highlights our thoughtful move to at-risk contracts over time.
The strength and resiliency of our operating model is highlighted by our solid Q1 performance, diversified book of business, and strong aggregate performance in our value-based and capitated arrangements. With this continued business momentum, we are reiterating our full-year 2023 guidance. We expect practice collections to grow 14.5% to more than $2.7 billion and Adjusted EBITDA to increase 18.3%, both at the midpoint of our guidance. With 4 new states and 3 new ACOs in 2023, we plan to continue to invest across our business enterprise to support our significant expansion. Our balance sheet and capital position continue to be very strong, with cash of more than $311 million and no debt. Our 2023 Adjusted EBITDA guidance absorbs approximately $8 million-$10 million in new market entry and expansion investments.
We expect our new markets to scale significantly in the coming years as we grow our provider base and attributed lives in these new states. Given our capital-efficient partnership model with annual capital expenditures of less than $1 million, we expect 80%-90% of our Adjusted EBITDA to convert to free cash flow. We remain focused on growing and expanding our business for many years to come and investing to support this growth as we build our national footprint. We are now ready to take your questions.
Robert Borcherding (SVP, Investor and Corporate Communications)
Kyle, we're ready for the first question.
Operator (participant)
All right. Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press * one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press * one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Lisa Gill from JPMorgan. Lisa, your line is open. Please ask your question.
Lisa Gill (Managing Director)
Great. Thanks very much. Good morning. First, congrats to you, Parth. Sean, it's been great working with you. I know you'll continue to be on the board, but I think this is a great transition. Just really wanna understand a little bit better the timing of physician implementation. As I look at your guidance, it appears to be fairly conservative to us as you move throughout the year, and just wanna understand kind of the timing of things. I heard you talk about the health plan pause, but any incremental color you can give on the new markets would be really helpful.
Then just as a quick follow-up, Parth, I thought it was very interesting, your new compensation package, and we've had a number of questions just around who that peer group is and maybe if you can talk about some of the metrics that you're gonna be measured against over the next year?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thank you, Lisa Gill. I really appreciate it. Just take them in order. Number one, as we stated, we are ahead of our plan on implemented providers in the new states, Connecticut, North Carolina and Ohio. We'll expect to implement some providers in those states before the end of the year. As you know, that's a five to six-month process, but the visibility we have through the sales pipeline gives us that confidence. Again, from a guidance perspective, it's still Q1. We have pretty good visibility and, you know, we'll update the guidance as we go through the rest of the year.
I'd also like to mention this obviously does not include any new states, and we are pursuing business development throughout the course of the year as we've done in past years. If we have as and when we have updates, we'll obviously update the guidance. On your follow-up questions, on number 1, you know, again, our focus has been to get fully aligned with our shareholders from a value creation perspective that happened prior to the company being public and, you know, the details which were filed with the SEC suggest that the entire initial grant for my request to the comp committee was to tie it to a relative total shareholder return metric, which will be the Healthcare Services Index.
It vests on a cliff basis in four years. That just aligns from a true long-term perspective and that's the mindset we have in running the business and creating value for shareholders.
Shawn Morris (CEO)
Lisa, thank you for the other. Obviously I've enjoyed being here for over five years and have a lot of confidence in Parth and the team, and excited to stay on the board of directors. As I'm noted and prepared remarks, just seeing the company grow and hit this next phase.
Lisa Gill (Managing Director)
Great. Thank you very much.
Operator (participant)
One moment please for your next question. Your next question comes from the line of A.J. Rice from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
A.J. Rice (Analyst)
Hi, everyone. Thanks for the question and best wishes, Sean, and congratulations, Parth, as well. Maybe just because it's the topic du jour of the Medicare final rate notice has been out there. Obviously, the bids for next year have to get submitted in June. Can you just comment on your discussions? I know your model in taking on the risk in MA tends to be very specific to different relationships. What kind of discussions are you having? Is it making people think they wanna accelerate the path to risk on the physician side? Is it saying, "Hey, we need to pause here"? How do we think about the final rate notice and how that's changing the push to take on more risk in your MA book?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks, A.J. It's Parth. Appreciate your comments. Then to your question directly, you know, it kind of validates our model more so than, you know, jumping into full risk 100%. We've not really seen any change in our discussion with both our payer partners as well as provider groups. You know, this model that we have of thoughtfully moving up the risk spectrum as and when the providers are ready, the payers are ready. I think in this kind of an environment where you really have to go geography by geography, look at the density, look at the panels, look at the health plan partner, and make that decision, and do it thoughtfully so that neither entity is burnt in the process.
I think that's validating our strategy more so as folks are being much more thoughtful as to how they construct this. We are seeing a lot of momentum across those discussions, both with payers and then obviously our medical groups.
A.J. Rice (Analyst)
Okay. Thanks a lot.
Shawn Morris (CEO)
Thanks, AJ.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Mok from UBS. Your line is open.
Andrew Mok (Analyst)
Hi. Good morning. Looking at the equity alignment agreement with Novant, should we be thinking of this deal as a template for your strategy going forward when it comes to implementing providers alongside large health system partners? Can you explain the thought process and rationale for structuring the deal in this way? Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate the question. Look, I think when it comes to big, large health systems, especially of that size, it's a very significant commitment on their part. We're talking about thousands of providers, and that significantly changes the dynamic of the relationship and the depth of the partnership, as you can imagine, and those decisions are never made lightly. Those are also very long-term in nature. You cannot reverse them overnight, if you will. I think we are very comfortable in having a structure that aligns our partnership and the depth of that relationship, if that includes a certain amount of equity, if they make that kind of commitment. Again, the decision will be health system by health system.
It just depends on the nature of the strategic objectives of that particular health system and our strategy in that particular geography. It is an incentive arrangement and the reason for that is that sometime in the future we can get that kind of book of business.
Andrew Mok (Analyst)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Please stand by for your next question. Your next question comes from the line of Sean Dodge from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Thomas Kelliher (Analyst)
Hey, good morning. This is Thomas Kelliher on for Sean. Thanks for taking the question. Also congratulations to Sean and Parth on the transition. I wanted to check back in on the Surgery Partners partnership. I mean, given we're comfortably first year, can you give us an update maybe on the status of that implementation in Montana and anything you can share in terms of performance metrics tied to that partnership? I guess more specifically, I'm looking to understand how you're measuring success there and what you need to see before potentially kind of expanding that relationship to the other states. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thank you. The relationship's going really well. The Montana group is has been live now for for some time, for many months, and that's going well. Both companies obviously are evaluating relationship in other states, and that was the genesis of the partnership. We have certain other groups in some other states that are implemented. Again, we've proven that out and are going to be implemented, so we've proven that out in more than just one state. Obviously, there's a broader strategic alignment on they are value-oriented in what they do. You've seen some of their recent announcements, including with the health system where we also partnered with in Ohio.
I think we're gonna look forward to, as we both develop and grow those relationships, try and work together and bring a very unique offering to our payer partners, from a value perspective and how we construct these networks in a multi-specialty medical group, with an outpatient facility attached to it. Then you can, as you know, you can reduce the total cost of care in a pretty meaningful way with those strategies. We continue to work. This is gonna be a multi-year discussion and strategy with them. We look forward to executing on it.
Thomas Kelliher (Analyst)
All right, great. Thanks for the comment.
Operator (participant)
For our next question, it comes from the line of Gary Taylor from Cowen. Gary, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Gary Taylor (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Good morning, guys. I wanted to ask about a couple things. One, the $3.3 million of negative prior development, I think that's just new disclosure on the roll forward, table, but given those contracts are obviously pretty new, was curious on what was driving that and how it's, influenced your reserving this year, if at all. Also, there were about $3.5 million of add backs to EBITDA beyond, just the stock comp add back. That amount's a little larger than we, typically see from you, and I know you pride on not adding a lot of stuff back. Just wanted to see if there was any more detail on that $3.5 million.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah, thanks, Gary. On the first one, again, it's related to the capitated book. A large part of that was due to on this one book that we highlighted in the prepared remarks around the pausing of the capitated arrangement with the health plan, in particular, given the operating challenges they faced as they went through that change. All of that is recognized in Q1, we don't see any further downside from that. I don't think you should expect that to continue through the rest of the course of this year. That was pretty much it from that prior period perspective. On the Adjusted EBITDA add back, you know, it was one-time costs, legal-related, some deal-related.
Obviously, we've had a very busy business development activity over the last, few months. Some of that is, you know, purely one-time in nature in addition to certain severance costs.
Gary Taylor (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Appreciate it. Is there any management participation in the secondary offering that got priced?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
No, it was, totally secondary by pre-IPO investors, largely, Goldman Sachs and Pamplona. There was no management participation.
Gary Taylor (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Please stand by for your next question. Your next question comes from the line of Whit Mayo from SVB. Whit, your line is open. Please ask your question.
Whit Mayo (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Thanks. Just looking at AR days in the quarter, they were, you know, up a lot, and I recognize there's a lot that influences that. Maybe, Parth, if you could help us understand some of those factors influencing that number, maybe MSSP, maybe some of the capitated stuff. Maybe just comment broadly on MSSP performance versus expectations in the quarter. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thanks, Whit. The AR is mainly related to the capitated book, as that's grown over the last 18 months or so, as we've gone from 0 to 30,000+ lives. Obviously, you know, that'll normalize year-over-year once that book becomes a little stabilize. It's not related to MSSP. That's been fairly normal as, you know, we get paid sometime in Q3, as you know. Overall, you know, our value-based book, as we said in our prepared remarks, overall has performed really well. You know, we're very pleased with the results from all the data we see. Our accruals are updated this quarter. The results for the quarter and the guidance reflects where we are today, obviously, we'll update those as we move forward. So far, everything we've seen, we're very pleased with.
Whit Mayo (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Yeah. Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Please stand by for your next question. For the next question, it comes from the line of Jessica Tassan from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Jessica Tassan (Senior Research Analyst)
Thanks so much for taking the question. Congratulations to Parth and Shawn. It was great getting to know you and working with you. Can you guys just clarify, when was the capitated contract terminated? Just what the impact is on the 40.6 thousand capitated lives as of 1/1/2023. I guess what is the headwind that the reiterated guidance is absorbing related to the pause of that capitated contract? Should we expect a sequential step down in capitated revenue in 2Q? Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thank you, Jess. I'll take those in order, just a few points. Number one, you know, this situation involved our partner and as many of you have written, another public company, so we're gonna be respectful of their disclosure on this matter. Overall, as far as we are concerned, again, this was an example of a risk that was not in our control, and it validates our decision to share the risk with the health plan partner in such arrangements, especially as we are starting out in these arrangements for the first year. You know, we're looking for a lot of consistency.
All prior period impact is fully reflected in our Q1 results, and there'll be no further downside impact to 2023, and that's, that was the reason for us to pause. Again, it demonstrates, you know, the strength and diversification of our book and how well we've performed in the rest of the value-based book, given our results this morning for Q1 and our confidence for the rest of the year. We don't see any further downside impact from this book. Then, you know, more importantly, as we reevaluate the decision in future years, you know, in these lives, there'll be upside.
The one change you'll notice from the last quarter when we reported, if you look at the bubble chart, under MA, you know, the downside risk lies are now 23%, and that's down. We have about a little over 31,000 lives that are currently in capitated arrangements, and that's down from the prior report.
Jessica Tassan (Senior Research Analyst)
Got it. Thank you.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thank you, Jess.
Operator (participant)
For your next question, it comes from the line of David Larsen from BTIG. Your line is open.
David Larsen (Analyst)
Hi. Congrats on the good quarter. Can you talk about the difference in expected margin between MSSP deals and also capitated deals? It's kinda my understanding that the capitated deals can actually be much higher risk, obviously, and leaner margin long term. Parth, I like how you bear risk responsibly. Also, over what period of time should we see EBITDA increase for a new market that you enter into? Any color around that would be great. Thank you.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thanks, David. You know, broadly speaking, Privia's take rate on shared savings is effectively the same on the two books of business. We share it 60/40 with our doctors. How we split the pie with the health plan differs. For MSSP, in the enhanced track, it's a 75/25 split with CMS. In a capitated arrangement, that can vary differently by geography, by health plan, so that's the first difference. Our take rate overall is the same. You know, the way we like to think about margin is, given the revenue recognition on the top line, just a percentage margin is really not an apples-to-apples comparison, MSSP versus MA, given you start to recognize pretty significant top line in a fully capitated MA deal.
From a shared savings percentage basis, as you see in our largest ACO in the Mid-Atlantic, we are saving close to 10%. Theoretically, and that's an open access product with CMS, theoretically, in a cap book of business with MA, you should expect over time to go at or higher than that number from a savings percentage perspective because you're managing the lives much more closely, you're taking more risk. From that perspective, hopefully the opportunity is bigger, and that's how we like to characterize the difference.
David Larsen (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
All right. Thank you. For your next question, it comes from the line of Richard Close from Canaccord. Richard, your line is open. Please ask your question.
Richard Close (Analyst)
Yes. Thanks for the question. Congratulations, Shawn and Parth, on the changes there. With respect to the new markets that you called out, Ohio, North Carolina, and Connecticut, can you just tell us, you know, they're running ahead of expectations, but can you tell us in terms of, you know, what you were expecting previously in terms of contribution on 2023?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thanks, Richard. You know, overall, you know, we thought we would be implementing providers sometime next year. I think that timeline's accelerated a little bit, from a top line and platform contribution perspective and EBITDA perspective, it'll still be fairly muted this year, given, you know, when the providers get implemented later this year and the in-year contribution from them. I think it gives us good runway into starting 2024 in a pretty strong footing. Again, you know, we are planning this journey in each of those states over a 4 or 5-year period to try and get to 400 or 500 providers. I mean, that's always our target. All these states have very significant TAM.
We have a pretty large, you know, partnership model in each of those three states and the opportunity for us to partner with many providers. That gives us the confidence to build these medical groups to that size over that period of time. It will not be linear. But I think we're off to a good start, and we'll see how we execute.
Richard Close (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Please stand by for your next question. For the next question, it comes from the line of Jamie Perse from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Jamie Perse (Analyst)
Hey, good morning, guys. I just wanted to go back to the capitated arrangements you have. I think contribution last year was just over $260,000. Can you give us a sense of what you're seeing so far this year and how you're accruing medical costs relative to collections on that book of business so far this year?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks, Jamie. Obviously we're not gonna go contract by contract, but generally speaking, on the remaining book, we obviously paused one arrangement as we outlined. On the remaining book, you know, it's better than last year as that's how we would expect. Obviously all the prior period stuff is flushed out. For 2023, if you can look at our disclosure, both on the revenue that is disaggregated and the medical margin, you'll see that we are performing pretty well, if you compare the capitated revenue number of $78.2 million relative to the in-year healthcare costs incurred on that book. You'll see obviously, we are accruing at a much better clip for the in-year performance on those deals.
Operator (participant)
All right. Thank you. For our next question, it comes from the line of Joshua Raskin from Nephron Research. Your line is open.
Joshua Raskin (Analyst)
Hi. Thanks, and good morning. I'll add my congrats to both Shawn and Parth as well. Just focused on the VBC lives, the change sequentially. Is that all MSSP or were you seeing some growth in the MA contract? Then getting back to this health plan pause, I just wanna better understand. It sounded like there was a technology partner that changed at the health plan side. Sounds like that must have impacted performance, right? Because the negative development, $2 million there. Is it fair to assume that you guys had been accruing last year, you know, maybe even just very modestly positive savings or results or maybe nothing. And now in hindsight, it sounds like the performance on that contract in total was negative. Is that the right way to think about it?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks, Josh. I'll take those in order. Number 1, you know, there's always movement at the beginning of the year on the overall attribution. It happens in commercial, the most, if you will, as employers change sometimes, their TPA or their health plan partner. Obviously you see that, and then the lives get reattributed to us. You'll see some movement in commercial in Q1, and as the year progresses that normalizes. There could be some in MSSP as well if some of the beneficiaries choose to go into MA. We do see some of that movement, but we capture that back in the MA book because they're obviously not changing their PCP in most cases. Again, hopefully that attribution normalizes in Q3, Q4, and...
Sorry, by Q2, Q3, that's what gives us confidence on our overall guidance range for that metric. On the health plan side, again, you know, it was a pretty significant disruption that a health plan can face. Obviously we were aware of this last year. We expect a lot of consistency in how we get the data, claims data and so forth. When you have some kind of disruption like this, there can be substantial delays in getting the data. Our accruals reflect, you know, what we see at the end of each quarter when we close it, and that's what's reflected in what we accrue and the results.
Obviously there was some prior period noise with that and that was obviously part of the reason why we decided to pause the arrangement, you know, jointly with the health plan. They shared some of the risk, some of the downside risk in this particular contract, and that validates our strategy to have them have some skin in the game so that when some kind of a disruption like this happens, you're making a much more thoughtful decision jointly. I think, you know, hopefully, we reevaluate it for 2024.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. For your next question, it comes from the line of Sandy Draper from Guggenheim. Your line is open.
Mitch Elon (Analyst)
Hi. Thanks. This is Mitch Elon for Sandy. Actually, all of our questions have been asked and answered, so just wanted to share mine and Sandy's congrats to both Shawn and Parth. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thank you.
Mitch Elon (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
All right. Thank you. Please stand by for your next question. For the next question, it comes from the line of Brian Tanquilut from Jefferies. Your line is open.
Brian Tanquilut (Analyst)
Hey, good morning. Yeah, congrats again to both of you guys, and hopefully Shawn will see you around here in Nashville. I guess just 1 question, Parth. As I think about the 100+ docs that you added during the quarter, maybe any color you can give in terms of the breakdown between organic recruitment and conversions from Privia Care Partners and what we're seeing in terms of the pipeline for both of those buckets of organic growth. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Thanks, Brian. largely organic for this quarter. there were some Privia Care Partners, and again, that's a longer-term strategy, and that'll be in big chunks. you know, all of Connecticut, effectively, you could argue is Privia Care Partners as, you know, we're starting that market with 1,100 provider, you know, largest clinically integrated network. Converting as many of those will largely be Privia Care Partners, and that's a big part of the strategy. this was, again, very, you know, as expected, most of these were sold last year. there was also some good organic same-store growth, which is becoming meaningful for us. We are in 970 physical sites, with a very large installed base, and that's a very good organic growth for us.
You know, we're really excited to see that happen too.
Brian Tanquilut (Analyst)
Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. For your next question, it comes from the line of Adam Ron from Bank of America. Your line is open.
Adam Ron (Analyst)
Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. You did allude to the large embedded value-based opportunity within previous patient panels, but if you divide the number of attributed lives in the quarter by the number of patients across the patient panels that you report, I think it's like 4.4 million, you come up with, that the percentage is up around 130 basis points year-over-year, the penetration rate, and it's actually down versus 2021. Is this the kind of rate of penetration expansion that you expect or that penetration of value-based care should be relatively steady and that all new growth in value-based care lives have to come from new doctors? Or is there some expectation around increase in penetration? If so, you know, what is the timing of that?
What specifically are you looking for before you move, you know, more patients into risk? Thank you.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yep. Thanks, Adam. Great question. You know, the uniqueness of our business is, we do value-based in all books, commercial, MSSP, MA, and Medicaid. There's a lot of opportunity, especially in the commercial book, and then also sometimes in the Medicaid book, where you could have a lot of the existing lives move into value-based arrangements with a particular payer in that, in specific geographies. The MA lives obviously, you know, have a much more well-understood pathway where we can have lives participate in MSSP or Medicare Advantage. You know, I think there's a massive opportunity for us to move a lot of those 4.4 million patients in some form of value-based arrangements. It will not happen overnight.
It's a, you know, we try and move these in big chunks, and you'll see them spread across all our books of business. Then the second part of that strategy is obviously to increase the level of performance, increase the level of risk, and hopefully that goes in tandem with increased level of performance, and then therefore our ability to generate shared savings for our health plan partners, for the doctors, and for us. Then our take rate is 40%. The operating leverage, even on the existing book, is pretty substantial. Then obviously on top of that, as you're seeing with, deals like Connecticut, you know, that's a new geography, new clinically integrated network.
We did not have close to 200,000 lives and 1,100 providers, you know, 2 quarters ago, and you can see the amount of opportunity we have in just expanding into new geographies with new doctors. Also with new doctors in existing geographies that we can layer on top of that. I think it's both same store, same book of business, and then new providers and new lives that come with them.
Adam Ron (Analyst)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. For the next question, it comes from the line of Jailendra Singh from Truist. Your line is open.
Jailendra Singh (Analyst)
Thank you. Thanks for taking my questions, and good morning, Shawn Morris and Parth Mehrotra, and congrats and best wishes to both of you. First, quick clarification, just going back to Jeff Garro's question about what was the revenue impact of these 16,000 full risk lives decline, I mean, I'm assuming that's captured in your guidance now and kind of incremental headwind. Then my main question, and I joined a little late, so apologies if you already covered this. Considering some strong utilization trends highlighted by some providers, I was wondering if you could talk about how are trends for you guys across your business line, anything meaningfully different to call out in terms of utilization between your peer class? What are you assuming in terms of utilization for rest of 2023?
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thank you, Jailendra. Just take them in order. On the first one, you know, as we noted, we recognize all prior period impact on that book in Q1. Despite that, you know, our results are really strong, so that was largely more than offset by our good performance in the rest of the value-based book. On the top line side, again, both the fee-for-service and value-based book is performing really well, so there's a lot of offsetting. We don't see any net impact, which gives us the confidence to maintain our guidance as we have. Obviously, if we eliminate a capitated arrangement, you add back the fee-for-service revenue, because these lives are still with us, the doctors are still seeing these patients. The net impact is much lower from that perspective.
Again, that bodes well for us having the confidence to maintain the guidance. Both from a top-line or a bottom-line perspective, you know, we should not see any further net impact. There's some movement and there's some offsetting, and that's what gives us confidence this point of the year to just maintain our guidance. You know, we are seeing pretty good utilization trends. That has continued as we've gone through the stale end of the COVID period. That is very consistent with last year. Again, our strategy is to be prudent when we plan for utilization and guide. If there's a surprise, hopefully it's to the upside. You're seeing some of that strength play out in our book, even now.
Ambulatory utilization's been much more stable as we've talked about previously, versus, you know, surgery-oriented or specialty utilization, which can be lumpy, but we are seeing pretty good strong trends continue across our book.
Jailendra Singh (Analyst)
Great. Thanks a lot.
Operator (participant)
All right. Thank you. Please stand by for your next question. For your next question, it comes from the line of Jeff Garro from Stephens. Jeff, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Jeff Garro (Analyst)
Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll echo the congrats to Shawn and Parth. Just a bookkeeping question from me. Maybe I missed it, I jumped on late, but wanted to see if you gave the Care Partners number of providers at the end of the period. My larger question is, you know, seeing the cost of the platform showing good leverage in the quarter, I'm just curious if there are any investments that you think you need the rest of the year for the platform, and how to think of timing of any incremental spend there. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks for the question. Just take them in order. you know, we're not breaking out Privia Care Partners lives separately, but they are all included in the 1 million-plus attribution. As we've said before, you know, the Connecticut's lives, about 200,000 thereabouts, are all Privia Care Partners. Beebe Healthcare in Delaware is all Privia Care Partners, as we outlined at the last quarter. you can see some of the numbers there. Again, those will grow in chunks over as we do these deals, and it's better than what we expected, so we're pretty excited about that.
From a platform, you know, contribution perspective, again, the level of spend is fairly consistent during the course of the year because we are setting up these new states with sales implementation, leadership teams, and that spend is pretty standard and equally spread throughout the course of the year. Obviously as top line impact comes in, you start to see some more operating leverage. Again, from a modeling perspective, quarter-over-quarter, you should see similar trends to last year given all the MSSP results and payments happen in Q3, so you'll see the same trends pretty much, but the spend's pretty consistent.
Jeff Garro (Analyst)
Great. Then just following up on the Care Partners side of things, I wanted to see if you could give any detail on the number of providers, just knowing that I believe that's not included in the implemented provider count. Thanks.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. We're not breaking that out. I mean, it's, you know, again, there are some, you know, obviously, like I said, the Connecticut providers, that's about 1,100. Beebe Healthcare was about 100 PCPs. We've disclosed that before. It's similar to what we said last quarter.
Robert Borcherding (SVP, Investor and Corporate Communications)
Yeah, we expect to update the Care Partners number on an annual basis.
Jeff Garro (Analyst)
Got it. That helps. Thanks again.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Please stand by for your last question. For the last question, it comes from the line of Ryan Daniels from William Blair. Ryan, your line is open. Please ask your question.
Ryan Daniels (Analyst)
Yeah, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I'll add my congrats to both Parth and Shawn. Been great working with you guys. My question revolves around more of the specialty care business. I know you're involved with ASCs. You do a lot in pediatrics, but we're hearing a lot of buzz in the industry about things like nephrology and CKD, oncology, et cetera. I'm curious what your purview is there, if you've looked at, you know, going out more aggressively with some of the specialty groups and participating in some of those accountable care type organizations or risk-based contracting. Thanks, guys.
Parth Mehrotra (President and COO)
Yeah. Thanks, Ryan. Really appreciate it. look, you know, we are consciously from day one have been building multi-specialty groups for this particular reason. 80% of the cost is downstream from the PCP. We have 52 specialties today in our platform. I think it's a great opportunity for us going forward. We already participate in some programs in a pretty minor way, bundles and so forth. I think going forward, as we both organically internally as well as through partnerships, you should expect us to look at some of these specialty-specific strategies. It'll be again, very disease specific or specialty specific as you outlined, so, and then geography specific, where we have density and lives, and we can make a big impact.
I think it's a big part of our strategy going forward.
Robert Borcherding (SVP, Investor and Corporate Communications)
If we have no further questions, Kyle, I'll ask Shawn Morris to just make a quick closing statement.
Shawn Morris (CEO)
Just wanna thank you, everybody, for listening to our call today. Really have enjoyed getting to know you, and I look forward to talking to you more, and we appreciate your continued interest and support for our company. Enjoy the rest of the day.
Operator (participant)
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