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PAYCOR HCM, INC. (PYCR)·Q2 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q2 FY2025 revenue grew 13% YoY to $180.4M, with recurring revenue up 14% to $167.4M; GAAP operating profit turned positive ($1.2M vs. $(26.2)M YoY), and adjusted operating income rose 36% to $31.8M with a 17.6% margin .
  • Management suspended all FY25 and Q3 guidance and did not host an earnings call due to the pending all-cash acquisition by Paychex; HSR waiting period expired on Feb 21, 2025, keeping closing on track for 1H 2025 .
  • Results exceeded prior company guidance issued in November: revenue ($180.4M vs. $176–$178M) and adjusted operating income ($31.8M vs. $26–$27M) both came in above the ranges .
  • Mix and operating leverage improved: GAAP net loss narrowed to $(2.0)M and adjusted free cash flow improved to $28.5M (15.8% margin) despite the absence of an earnings call; interest income on funds held remained solid at $13.1M on ~$1.17B average balances .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • Revenue and profit outperformed prior company guidance: $180.4M vs. $176–$178M revenue and $31.8M vs. $26–$27M adjusted operating income, reflecting stronger recurring revenue and cost leverage .
    • Material YoY margin expansion and cash generation: adjusted operating margin rose to 17.6% (from 14.6% YoY) and adjusted FCF improved to $28.5M (15.8% margin) .
    • Operating turnaround: GAAP operating profit of $1.2M vs. $(26.2)M YoY, aided by lower G&A and amortization; GAAP net loss narrowed to $(2.0)M vs. $(26.2)M YoY .
  • What Went Wrong

    • Guidance withdrawn and no earnings call increase information overhang; management cited the pending Paychex transaction for suspending FY25 and Q3 guidance and skipping the call .
    • GAAP profitability remains thin (0.7% operating margin; $(2.0)M net loss) despite notable adjusted improvements .
    • Structural revenue headwinds persist from lower ancillary/form-filing tailwinds and macro labor moderation as previously noted in prior quarter commentary, pressuring gross margin mix vs. prior periods (context from earlier quarter) .

Financial Results

MetricQ4 2024Q1 2025Q2 2025
Total Revenues ($M)$164.8 $167.5 $180.4
Recurring & Other Revenues ($M)$150.5 $154.0 $167.4
Interest Income on Funds Held ($M)$14.3 $13.5 $13.1
Gross Margin (%)64.8% 64.6% 65.5%
GAAP Operating Income ($M)$(13.4) $(14.3) $1.2
Adjusted Operating Income ($M)$25.0 $22.8 $31.8
Adjusted Operating Margin (%)15.2% 13.6% 17.6%
GAAP Net Income ($M)$(18.3) $(7.3) $(2.0)
GAAP EPS (Diluted)$(0.10) $(0.04) $(0.01)
Adjusted Net Income ($M)$20.4 $18.7 $25.0
Adjusted EPS ($)$0.11 $0.10 $0.14
Adjusted Free Cash Flow ($M)$37.3 $(22.2) $28.5
Adjusted FCF Margin (%)22.6% (13.3%) 15.8%

Revenue mix by quarter:

Revenue MixQ4 2024Q1 2025Q2 2025
Recurring & Other ($M)$150.5 $154.0 $167.4
Interest on Funds ($M)$14.3 $13.5 $13.1
Total Revenues ($M)$164.8 $167.5 $180.4

Actual vs prior company guidance (issued Nov 6, 2024):

MetricPeriodPrior Company GuidanceActualComparison
Total Revenues ($M)Q2 2025$176.0–$178.0 $180.4 Beat vs guidance
Adjusted Operating Income ($M)Q2 2025$26.0–$27.0 $31.8 Beat vs guidance

KPIs and balance items:

KPI / BalanceAs of Q4 2024As of Q1 2025As of Q2 2025
Customers (#)~30,500 ~31,300
Customer Employees (#)~2.7M ~2.7M
Funds Held for Clients – End Bal. ($M)$1,109.1 $967.2 $1,333.4
Interest Income on Funds ($M)$14.3 $13.5 $13.1
Avg Client Funds ($B, QTD)~1.1 ~1.169

Note: S&P Global consensus estimates for Q2 2025 were unavailable via our tool; therefore comparisons are shown vs company guidance, not Street estimates.

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Total RevenuesQ2 FY2025$176.0–$178.0M (issued Nov 6, 2024) Actual $180.4M Beat vs guidance
Adjusted Operating IncomeQ2 FY2025$26.0–$27.0M (issued Nov 6, 2024) Actual $31.8M Beat vs guidance
Total RevenuesFY2025$726.0–$733.0M (issued Nov 6, 2024) Guidance suspended (Feb 5, 2025) Withdrawn
Adjusted Operating IncomeFY2025$127.0–$130.0M (issued Nov 6, 2024) Guidance suspended (Feb 5, 2025) Withdrawn
All metricsQ3 FY2025No guidance; no earnings call Not provided

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicQ4 FY2024Q1 FY2025Q2 FY2025 (Current)Trend
AI/technology initiativesLaunched Compensation Mgmt; continued AI in talent suite Launched Paycor Assistant; Integration Platform; pilots, monetization early No call due to merger Advancing; no update this quarter
Embedded HCM channelTripled partners YoY; small revenue mix >10 partners; contribution to employee growth; plan to double embedded revenue in FY25 No call; pending merger Growing channel; muted update
Sales efficiency/tenureFocus on Tier-1/top 50 metros; tenure up 20% YoY Seller metrics improving; retention up; capacity adequate No call Improving
Broker channel~50% of bookings via brokers >60% of field bookings influenced by brokers Strong, stable
Macro/labor marketLabor tailwind moderated to ~0 pts YoY Labor trends low single-digit; not assumed in guide Stable/moderate
Interoperability/platform300+ prebuilt integrations; API endpoints +40% Introduced Integration Platform (320+ partners) Strengthening
Pricing/PEPMEffective PEPM +8% to nearly $19 Effective PEPM +11% to $19; ~1/3 growth from pricing Healthy PEPM drivers

Management Commentary

  • “Given the pending transaction, we will not be hosting an earnings conference call, are suspending financial guidance for fiscal year 2025, and will not provide financial guidance for the third quarter ending March 31, 2025.” (Q2 press release, Feb 5, 2025) .
  • “Paycor had an impressive start to the year, delivering 17% revenue growth year-over-year.” (Q1 press release, Nov 6, 2024) .
  • “Our embedded HCM channel continued to ramp… we now have more than 10 partners.” (Q1 call) .
  • “We are introducing a new long-term adjusted free cash flow margin target of greater than 20%.” (Q4 call) .
  • “Effective PEPM increased 11% year-over-year to $19.” (Q1 call) .

Q&A Highlights

  • No Q&A this quarter; the company did not host a conference call due to the pending Paychex acquisition .
  • Prior-quarter Q&A themes for context:
    • AI monetization is early; investments focused on product usability; pilots underway (e.g., call center assist) .
    • Embedded HCM expected to double revenue in FY25; pipeline broadening; some arrangements include minimums .
    • Broker channel strength sustained (>60% of bookings influence) .
    • Pricing/cross-sell contributed roughly one-third each to PEPM expansion .
    • Labor market contribution remained modest/flat in guidance assumptions .

Estimates Context

  • Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) for Q2 FY2025 could not be retrieved due to a data mapping issue in our tool, so estimate comparisons are not included. As an alternative, results are compared against company-issued guidance from Nov 6, 2024 .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • The quarter was fundamentally strong: revenue and adjusted operating income both exceeded prior guidance with improved margins and cash generation, despite macro moderation in ancillary drivers .
  • Strategic momentum continues under the surface: recurring revenue and profitability expanded, and prior-quarter commentary highlighted durable growth vectors (embedded HCM, broker channel, interoperability, AI) .
  • Near-term information flow is constrained: management suspended FY25 and Q3 guidance and did not host an earnings call, reflecting the pending Paychex acquisition .
  • M&A path clarifying: HSR waiting period expiration reduces a major regulatory condition; closing expected in 1H 2025, with $22.50 per share consideration per the merger agreement .
  • For event-driven strategies, the key catalyst is merger closing; for fundamental holders, stand-alone trends (recurring growth, operating leverage, cash conversion) remained favorable heading into the transaction .
  • Watch items: any updates on closing timeline/conditions; integration implications; sustained recurring growth/margins if the transaction timeline extends .

Additional M&A Context (Q2-related)

  • Deal terms: all-cash merger at $22.50 per share; majority stockholder consent received; closing subject to customary conditions (including HSR, which has now expired) and certain state money-transmitter approvals; earliest close not before April 15, 2025 unless waived .
  • HSR status: waiting period expired as of Feb 21, 2025; transaction expected to close within 1H 2025 .