Reliance - Earnings Call - Q1 2017

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Speaker 0

Greetings, and welcome to the Reliance Steel and Aluminum Company First Quarter twenty seventeen Earnings Conference Call. At this time, participants are in a listen only mode. An interactive question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms.

Brenda Miyamoto, Investor Relations for Reliance. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thanks to all of you for joining our conference call to discuss our first quarter twenty seventeen financial results. I'm joined by Greg Mullins, our President and CEO Carla Lewis, our Senior Executive Vice President and CFO Jim Hoffman, our Executive Vice President and COO and Bill Sales, our Executive Vice President of Operations. A recording of this call will be posted on the Investors section of our website at investor.rsac.com. The press release and the information on this call may contain certain forward looking statements, which are based on a number of assumptions that are subject to change and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties or other factors, which may not be under the company's control, which may cause the actual results, performance or achievement of the company to be materially different from the results, performance or other expectations implied by these forward looking statements.

These factors include, but are not limited to, those disclosed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 3136, under the caption Risk Factors and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The press release and the information on this call speak only as of today's date, and the company disclaims any duty to update the information provided therein and herein. I will now turn the call over to Greg Mullins, President and CEO of Reliance.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Brenda. And good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm excited to review our strong first quarter results with you. Improved demand, higher metal pricing and continued strong execution resulted in record quarterly gross profit dollars, driving our highest earnings per share and net income since the first quarter of twenty twelve. The pricing environment remained positive throughout the first quarter of twenty seventeen.

Price increases on virtually all of our products contributed to increase in our FIFO gross profit margin to 30.2, up from 29.4% in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and twenty nine percent in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. In addition to positive pricing trends that contributed to our enhanced gross profit margin during the quarter as price increases were announced by the domestic mills, our higher sustainable gross profit margin remains intact as a result of the investments we are making in value added processing equipment. We have invested approximately $1,000,000,000 in capital expenditures over the last six years, with the majority of this amount spent on value added processing equipment. These investments far outpaced our peers and along with our decentralized operating model provide us with a significant competitive advantage to supply our customers with the highest quality products and services on a just in time basis. Because of this competitive advantage and assuming no significant changes in market conditions, we believe that we can sustain a reported LIFO gross profit margin within the range of 27% to 29%.

Our managers in the field continued their strong execution with solid performance on all fronts, including pricing discipline, inventory management and expense control, resulting in the majority of our operations significantly increasing their pretax income in the first quarter of twenty seventeen compared to the first quarter of twenty sixteen. Our operations took advantage of the improved pricing environment that began in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen and carried into the first quarter of twenty seventeen. Mill prices increased for most of our products, most notably for many of our carbon and stainless steel products. In a period of increasing prices, we expect to increase our gross profit margin as we obtain higher prices from our customers before we receive the higher cost metal into inventory. In addition, due to our effective inventory management, we are able to be far more selective with the orders we fulfill, enabling us to focus on higher margin business.

Our average selling price for the first quarter of twenty seventeen was up 9.7% from the first quarter of twenty sixteen. Though we have been experiencing some modest pricing pressure in April with a slight decline in raw material pricing, notably on scrap, we anticipate that positive customer demand trends along with fewer imports in the marketplace should be generally supportive of pricing in the second quarter of twenty seventeen. Overall customer sentiment coming into 2017 was the most positive we have experienced in quite some time. This translated into somewhat better than expected customer demand levels in the first quarter of twenty seventeen, with our tons sold up 12.8% from the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen, which was above our expectation of up 8% to 10%. We anticipate customer demand levels will hold with the potential for continued improvement as we move through 2017 and into 2018 and even more meaningful improvements if the current administration's infrastructure plans are implemented.

Further, if the energy market continues to improve, this will also be positive for metal demand. The slight demand improvement we have recently experienced in the energy market, along with the cost cutting measures we executed over the last two years, resulted in our energy companies as a group returning to profitability in the first quarter of twenty seventeen, the first time since the second quarter of twenty fifteen. Consistent with seasonal patterns and the improving business environment, we used cash from operations during the first quarter of twenty seventeen to build working capital. Given our effective inventory management, we achieved our inventory turn goal of 4.7 times based on tons, an improvement from our 2016 inventory turn rate of 4.5 times. Turning to capital allocation.

We will continue to grow our business through a balanced combination of acquisitions and organic investments. We will also continue to return value to our stockholders through quarterly cash dividends and opportunistic share repurchases. Effective for the first quarter of twenty seventeen, we increased our regular quarterly cash dividend to $0.45 per share, our twenty fourth dividend increase since our 1994 IPO and a 6% increase from the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. Reliance has been paying regular quarterly cash dividends for fifty eight consecutive years. In 2016, we completed the acquisitions of Tubular Steel, Best Manufacturing and Alaska Steel.

All three acquisitions have been performing in line with our expectations. We expect we will continue to be a consolidator in our highly fragmented industry by making strategic acquisitions of well managed metal service centers and processors with end market exposures that complement our diversification strategy and meet our stringent acquisition criteria. While we have not completed an acquisition so far in 2017, the pipeline remains active and we continue to see and evaluate suitable opportunities. Lastly, organic investments primarily in value added processing equipment will be crucial to supporting our future growth and enhancing our earnings. In 2016, we spent approximately $155,000,000 on capital expenditures, which were primarily related to growth activities.

Importantly, our gross profit margin improvement compared to historical levels directly demonstrates the return on these investments. In 2017, our approved CapEx budget is $200,000,000 as we continue to see areas of growth in which we can provide additional value added services to our customers. In summary, 2017 is off to a strong start and we are excited about Reliance's future. Our managers in the field have been performing very well and remain highly encouraged by current business environment and growth prospects supported by Reliance's strong financial position. Both pricing and demand levels remain better than they were a year ago, and we are optimistic with regard to increased infrastructure and equipment spending on the horizon.

As demonstrated by our increased earnings levels in the first quarter of twenty seventeen, with pretax income of $168,500,000 or a 7% pretax margin, we have the ability to leverage our existing cost structure in periods of increased demand and pricing to produce higher earnings. We will continue our focus on maximizing our gross profit margin while diligently managing operating expenses and inventory levels in order to continue to drive strong earnings. I will now hand the call over to Jim to comment further on our operations and market conditions. Jim?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Greg, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, I'd like to take a moment to thank our folks in the field for a job well done this quarter. Our continued success and enhanced gross profit margins is directly correlated to their hard work and dedication. I am very proud of their achievements. Now, will spend a few moments commenting on demand and pricing for our carbon steel and alloy products as well as our outlook on certain key end markets we sell those products into.

Bill will then address our aluminum and stainless steel products and related end markets. Demand for automotive, which we service mainly through our toll processing operations in The U. S. And Mexico, remains very strong at current production rates. Our growth continues to be driven by the increased usage of aluminum with 2016 being a record year for us in terms of the volume of aluminum processed.

Given fairly steady automotive demand, coupled with significant capital investments in our toll processing operations, we anticipate 2017 volumes will be at or even above 2016 levels. In addition to investments in processing equipment, we've been expanding our facilities to support automotive demand for both carbon and aluminum processing. Our facility in Monterrey, Mexico remains very active since we began shipping product in the third quarter of twenty sixteen and is performing in line with our expectations. In addition, construction remains on schedule at our new U. S.

Facility in Kentucky and we expect it will be fully operational during the second quarter of twenty seventeen. First quarter demand in heavy industry, which includes railcar, truck trailer, shipbuilding, barge manufacturing, tank manufacturers and wind and transmission towers was in line with levels experienced in 2016. Demand in nonresidential construction market continues to experience steady upward growth, though volume is still far below peak levels. We remain cautiously optimistic that domestic infrastructure spending will improve, which bodes very well for Reliance. As a result, we are continuing to invest in processing equipment for our businesses to sell that sell into nonresidential construction and remain well positioned to absorb increased volumes in our existing footprint and cost structure as this end market improves.

Demand for energy, which is mainly oil and natural gas, is improving slightly faster than we originally anticipated, and we expect this trend to continue. Though completion activity remains low, rig counts continue to rise. Quoting and overall activity improved during the quarter and mill leads dones are extending. As Greg mentioned, our businesses servicing the energy market contributed positively to our earnings in the first quarter of twenty seventeen. The increased activity in this market is an encouraging sign, and we are well positioned to support demand growth as energy continues to recover.

Pricing for almost all of the carbon steel products we sell into these end markets improved during the first quarter. Although we began the second quarter with some downward pressure on overall pricing, we remain optimistic that increased customer demand and fewer imports as a result of the ongoing trade cases should help support pricing levels. In addition, further improvement in activity levels in the energy market could support improved pricing for alloy products. Thank you for your attention. I will now turn the call over to Bill to comment further on nonferrous markets.

Bill? Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone. Let me also start by congratulating our folks in the field for their continued outstanding operational performance in the first quarter. We greatly appreciate your efforts.

I will now review pricing and demand for our aluminum and stainless steel products as well as the key industry trends in the markets for these products. I'll begin with aerospace, which continues to be a very strong end market for Reliance. Today, lead times have extended to about nine to twelve weeks for aluminum aerospace plate. The backlog for orders of commercial planes remains healthy, and we expect build rates should continue to improve modestly in 2017, led by single aisle planes. Overall demand in the aerospace market remains solid, especially for aluminum play, where we continue to experience healthy volume growth during the first quarter of twenty seventeen.

Based on these trends, we are maintaining our positive outlook for the aerospace market. We saw increased activity from many of our defense customers in the first quarter of twenty seventeen as spending in the industry ramped up. In addition to this, as noted on our last conference call, 2017 marked the beginning of our involvement with the five year $350,000,000 Joint Strike Fighter program, strengthening our already strong position in the aerospace and defense markets. Our entry into the aerospace market in India through our All Metal Service Center our All Metal Services subsidiary in The UK remains on track to become operational by the end of the third quarter of twenty seventeen. The semiconductor market continues to be a bright spot for us in both The U.

S. And Pacific Rim regions. Demand is strong and the outlook remains positive for the balance of this year as well as into 2018. Turning to pricing. The majority of the products that we sell into the aerospace market are heat treated aluminum products, especially plate as well as specialty stainless steel and titanium products.

Most notably, a 5% increase for heat treated aluminum plate was announced in the first quarter and went into effect earlier this month. It's been quite a while since we've seen an increase on aerospace aluminum plate, and it's very encouraging as we head into the second quarter. Common alloy aluminum pricing has remained fairly stable as did our volume levels during the first quarter. Most of our common alloy aluminum products are sold to sheet metal fabricators that support a variety of end markets. Pricing on common alloy aluminum sheet should improve based on our recently announced conversion price increase as well as a modest increase in the Midwest spot price.

Lastly, demand for our stainless steel flat products, which are primarily sold in the kitchen equipment appliance and construction end markets remains solid. Pricing has continued to improve in 2017 as a result of these price increase announcements in January and most recently in April. Accordingly, our outlook for the stainless market remains positive. Thank you for your time and attention today. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Carla to review our first quarter twenty seventeen financial results.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Our net sales in the first quarter of twenty seventeen were very strong at $2,420,000,000 up 11.9% from the first quarter of twenty sixteen with our tons sold up 2.5% and our average selling price per ton sold up 9.7%. Compared to the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen, our net sales were up 17.4% with our tons sold up 12.8 and our average selling price per ton sold up 4.2%. We had expected tons sold to increase 8% to 10% in the first quarter as compared to the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen due to normal seasonal factors along with improved customer sentiment. However, overall demand was stronger than we had anticipated, including in the energy market.

Our average selling price increase of 4.2% was at the high end of our expectation of 2% to 4%. Our gross profit margin in the first quarter of twenty seventeen was 29.8%, up from 29.4% in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and consistent with the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. Mill price increases in both the first quarter of twenty seventeen and the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen contributed to our gross profit margin exceeding our recently increased estimated sustainable range of 27% to 29%. Our increased gross profit margin along with improved sales levels resulted in our highest ever quarterly gross profit dollars of $721,600,000 Given higher mill prices, we recorded a net LIFO inventory valuation charge or expense of $10,000,000 for the first quarter of twenty seventeen or $09 earnings per diluted share. We currently estimate net LIFO inventory valuation expense of $40,000,000 for the full year of 2017.

We did not record a LIFO inventory valuation adjustment in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and recorded $16,200,000 of income or positive $0.14 per share in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. As a percentage of sales, our SG and A expenses were 19.7% compared to 20.8% in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and twenty one point four percent in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. The decrease as a percentage of sales was primarily due to higher metal prices, which increased our sales. Our SG and A expenses in the first quarter of twenty seventeen increased over the first quarter of twenty sixteen, mainly due to inflationary factors as well as increased incentive pay due to our higher profit levels. Our operating income margin of 7.9% for the first quarter of twenty seventeen is a significant improvement from 6.1% in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and five point seven percent in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen, mainly due to higher metal prices and our increased gross profit margin.

Interest expense decreased by $4,400,000 in the first quarter of twenty seventeen compared to the first quarter of twenty sixteen, mainly due to refinancing our 6.2% senior notes with bank debt in November 2016. Our effective income tax rate for the first quarter of twenty seventeen was 32.7 compared to 14.4% in the first quarter of twenty sixteen. As a reminder, our twenty sixteen first quarter tax rate was significantly lower due to the favorable resolution of certain tax matters during that period. We currently estimate that our full year 2017 effective income tax rate will be approximately 32% to 33%. Net income attributable to Reliance for the first quarter of twenty seventeen was $111,700,000 or $1.52 per diluted share, our highest levels in the last twenty quarters.

Our non GAAP diluted earnings per share were $1.52 in the first quarter of 'seventeen, up 47.6% from $1.03 in the first quarter of twenty sixteen and up 81% from $0.84 in the fourth quarter of twenty sixteen. Please refer to our earnings release issued earlier today for a reconciliation of our non GAAP adjustments. Turning to our balance sheet and cash flow, because of the improved business environment with both higher demand and metal prices, our working capital needs increased, resulting in a use of cash from operations of $20,700,000 during the first quarter of twenty seventeen. We spent $34,100,000 for capital expenditures and paid $33,700,000 in quarterly cash dividends to our stockholders in the first quarter of twenty seventeen. At March 3137, our total debt outstanding was $2,000,000,000 and our net debt to total capital ratio was 30.8%.

As of the end of the first quarter, we had $780,500,000 available on our $1,500,000,000 revolving credit facility. Our effective working capital management along with our strong earnings enables us to fund our increased activity levels with significant liquidity available to continue to grow the company and return value to our stockholders. Turning now to our outlook. We remain optimistic in regard to business activity levels in the second quarter of twenty seventeen. Given our expectation that current demand will hold with the potential for slight improvement, we estimate that our tons sold will be flat to up 2% in the second quarter compared to the first quarter of twenty seventeen.

Although raw material pricing has experienced some pressure in the second quarter, we remain optimistic that increased customer demand and fewer imports will support current metal pricing. In addition, we expect our average selling price to increase as we pass through higher cost inventory that fully reflects the mill price increases that were announced in the first quarter of twenty seventeen. Therefore, we expect our average selling price in the second quarter of twenty seventeen will be flat to up 2% from the first quarter of twenty seventeen. However, because of the higher cost metal in our inventory, we expect some pressure on our gross profit margin from the enhanced level achieved in the first quarter of twenty seventeen. As a result, we currently expect earnings per diluted share to be in the range of $1.5 to $1.6 for the second quarter of twenty seventeen.

In closing, we are very pleased with our overall financial performance in the first quarter due not only to the stronger demand and metal pricing we experienced, but also the solid operational execution displayed by our managers in the field. We are excited to demonstrate the increased earnings capacity that exists in our company if market conditions continue to improve. We look forward to updating you on our continued success in the coming quarters. That concludes our prepared remarks. Thank you for your attention.

And at this time, we would like to open the call up to questions. Operator?

Speaker 0

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. And our first question comes from Phil Gibbs from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Very much. We appreciate you being very consistent and boring after these last couple of days. Thank you.

Speaker 2

That's a good one.

Speaker 5

The outlook for the second quarter on the demand side, you're talking about up a little bit here versus Q1, Greg and Carla. What have you seen so far in April and maybe some indications from your customers that give you that confidence or visibility?

Speaker 2

I think what we're seeing in April is fairly consistent with what we saw during the first quarter. So it's no swing up or down. It's pretty consistent. The feelings of our customers that we're getting from our managers in the field is also still positive. They feel good about it.

Inventory levels at our customer level are still lean. No one's really built up in spite of the fact that prices were going up. Sometimes there's a little bit of a build tendency. There's probably been a little bit of that, but nothing significant at all. Same with service centers, I don't see service centers and certainly our inventory turn at 4.7 times kind of holds that up.

So generally speaking, I think our guidance of 0% to 2% on pricing as well as demand is pretty reflective of our feelings. Know us, what you see is what you get. And I think our guidance is really exactly the way we feel about it.

Speaker 5

Okay. I appreciate that color. And I know there's been some debate among the industry on the MSCI data just in March. Do you think that particularly for carbon that's sub two months on hand or in and around two months on hand, do you think that's really indicative of where the industry is at right now?

Speaker 2

Carla?

Speaker 4

I think Phil certainly that's a pretty low number based on historical standards, but a very large percentage of the MSCI data as you know is heavily weighted towards flat rolled and that is a product where internally at Reliance we certainly expect flat rolled inventories to turn at a much higher rate than some of our other products. So it's pretty low. People may be adjusting their buying patterns based on their expectations on pricing. So it could have gone down a little lower industry wide than we've seen historically. But we think it's a good number.

We don't have a better number.

Speaker 5

It. And my last question here is for Bill. On the aluminum side, Bill, can you provide us any color in terms of whether or not you started to see some of that new JSF contract or in your other defense contracts kick in, in Q1? And then also, if there were aluminum sanctions put on material, I don't know what it would include, but I'm sure you've thought about it a little bit in the recent days. How would that potentially impact the way that you're thinking about things?

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Yes, Phil. The JSF, did we are seeing volume in Q1 there. It is ramping up, and it's ramping up at about the pace we thought it would. And as you recall, that's not spread equally over five years.

So we'll ramp up and you'll see those volumes continue to improve. But when we look at Q1 volumes, it's about where we thought it would be. And on the trade case, I think from what I've read, it seems like that is going to have an impact more on the Midwest spot kind of price level, which in turn will impact a lot of our product. So we'll watch that pretty closely. But we've seen the Midwest spot run up.

We're up about $09 since the beginning of the year. So a lot of people think that we may see that continue to go up even higher. So we're watching it closely.

Speaker 0

Thank you. Our next question is from Seth Rosenfeld from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good morning. I have two questions. First, starting on energy and then moving on to stainless. On the energy front, I found it interesting your comments you're seeing that recovery developing faster than previously expected. Can you give us a bit of color about which parts of the energy complex you're seeing developing better or worse than your earlier expectations?

And just walk us through your own leverage to the energy cycle? And then secondly, on stainless, two of your main suppliers, Ceranox and Otukumpu, they reported earnings earlier today. They had notably disparate views towards pricing, one calling for more hikes seemingly and one looking at maybe a cap due to imports. You sounded quite positive on stainless still. Can talk a bit more about your own views towards buyer appetite and pricing?

Speaker 3

Seth, this is Jim. I'm going to answer your energy question the way I understood it first. First of our expectations have been pretty low. I mean, the rig count is up. I mean, it's up dramatically from a year ago, but it's still way off from where the peak is.

What we're seeing out there, we didn't anticipate the drilling activity to go up as quickly as it did. The completion end of it is a really big part of our market, and we haven't seen that yet because what's going on in there, if you read between the lines, the drilling activity has a lot to do with the land leases. They have to show some activity on that land where they lose the leases, so they do their drilling. However, they've yet to ramp up the completion in. Completion in the way I see completion, that's everything other than drilling.

When the completion end starts, which it will, you're not going to waste money drilling wells and not complete them. So at some point, they are going to complete those wells. So we're cautiously optimistic that the increase in drilling activity will continue. But like I said earlier, expectations have been low, and there's still a long way from to getting back to any kind of peak levels.

Speaker 4

And from the earnings impact on that, Seth, we as we commented, our energy companies as a group were profitable in the first quarter, but not at what we consider to be normal profitability levels. We were just happy to see some level of profitability there. So it can be meaningful to our earnings in normal times in energy markets. We expect the pretax returns from those companies to be anywhere from 1.5 times to kind of two times the company average. So we're still well below that.

We don't expect to be there next quarter, but it can be additive to our earnings as we see that market continue to recover. And remember, we're also down probably to half the level as a percent of energy sales currently as they were in kind of a 2014 period. So there's definitely room for that to continue to prove and add to our earnings.

Speaker 3

Yes. Seth, on the demand side for stainless, demand continues to be good. And I think our guys in the field feel like there's good activity from a demand standpoint. The two price increases, one that was announced in January and one that was for April, I think there may be a little traction where there some of that price increase may not be sticking. We're keeping our ears very close to the market and what's going on there, but pricing has improved with those increases.

It's just a matter if all or any of maybe that last increase is going to actually hold. So we're watching that pretty closely.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Just one follow-up on stainless. Are you seeing any signs of actual downside risk to those base prices today or just more of a stable status quo environment?

Speaker 3

Well, the downside risk from a pricing standpoint may be some of that last increase. But other than that, not on the base price, no.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 0

And our next question is from Nobod Rizvi from Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. The increase in tons sold in this first quarter outpaced your guidance and it looks like energy was definitely part of the factor there. I just wanted to see if you can maybe talk a little bit more about the delta there and what was driving that?

Speaker 2

I think we saw really across the board increases in non residential construction, heavy equipment is pretty steady, aerospace we had that kicker with the JSF And automotive, we continue to do the toll processing work there and that's doing well. It's a little bit once we get especially our operation opened in Kentucky, we hope to see what we know we'll see a pop there in by way of demand. But overall, probably the biggest kicker that we had in the first quarter was energy. That popped up as we've been talking about today a little bit faster than we anticipated, which is obviously a positive thing. Our people actually down in the oil belt are now talking less about suicide than they were for the last two years.

Okay. So that's a real positive. But overall, was pretty much across the board. The improvement were kind of what we expected in our guidance and whatnot a little bit better. I think we guided to eight percent to ten percent above fourth quarter and ended up being more like twelve percent.

So that good, but probably a relatively healthier quarter that part of that twelve percent versus the eight percent to ten percent guidance was in the energy sector.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then just one more follow-up then on energy, Greg. So the increase in rig counts, I mean, basically have said quoting activity has improved and the rise that we've seen has been pretty sharp. You said earlier, I think to Seth's question that you expect drilling activity to continue. I'm just curious, we've seen kind of a choppy environment on the WTI side above 50, below 50 and some people are thinking that rig counts may plateau.

I was just wondering if the buying activity that you're seeing right now is indicating that the current trend will continue. It sounded like that was the case, but I was just wondering if you can help us understand the psyche of the buyer right now and if there's any hesitancy in their part given the choppiness of WTI prices?

Speaker 3

Yes. No, this is Jim. We anticipate it to continue to go up. I mean there's cautious optimism out there. Like I mentioned earlier, the rig count has gone up.

There's still some there's still a lot of capacity out there with the product itself. I mentioned the fact that the drilling activity, some of it's based on land leases that you need to show activity on those on that land before you're going to lose the lease. So we see that to continue to increase at an okay price pace. I mean, it's still far below. But like as I mentioned before, the completion end of a well is where the steel consumption in our our steel consumption really continues up.

There's a lot of pipeline activity out there that has been approved and building. That obviously goes that's not in our wheelhouse, but the mills themselves, if you've been listening in on the producing mills, activity in energy has gone up a lot based on those pipelines So everything is positive. I mean our order count is up, our margin count is up, the just general positive feeling out the market is up, and we just at the price of oil and all the things I just mentioned, we anticipate it to continue.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Bowens for any closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thanks again for your support and for participating in today's call. We'd like to remind everyone that in early June, we will be in Chicago presenting at Deutsche Bank's Global Industrials and Basic Materials Summit. And in late June, we will be in New York City participating in Jefferies Annual Steel Summit, KeyBanc Steel Roundtable and Macquarie's Global Metals Mining and Materials Conference. We hope to see many of you at one of these events, and we hope you have a great day. Thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 0

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.