Sify Technologies - Earnings Call - Q4 2025
April 21, 2025
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Greetings. Welcome to the Sify Technologies financial results for full year 2024-2025. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Praveen Krishna. You may begin.
Praveen Krishna (Head of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Holly. I'd like to extend a warm welcome to all our participants on behalf of Sify Technologies Limited. I'm joined on the call today by my Chairman, Mr. Raju Vegesna, and my Executive Director and Group CFO, Mr. M.P. Vijay Kumar. Following our comments on the results, there will be an opportunity for questions. If you do not have a copy of our press release, please call Weber Shandwick at 1-212-546-8260, and we'll have one sent to you. Alternatively, you may obtain a copy of the release at the investor information section on the company's corporate website at www.sifytechnologies.com/investors. A replay of today's call may be accessed by dialing in on the numbers provided in the press release or by accessing the webcast in the investor information section of the Sify corporate website.
Some of the financial measures referred to during this call and in the earnings release may include non-GAAP measures. Sify's results for the year are according to the International Financial Reporting Standards, or IFRS, and will differ somewhat from the GAAP announcements made in previous years. A presentation of the most directly comparable financial measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP, and a reconciliation of such non-GAAP measures and of the differences between such non-GAAP measures and the most comparable financial measures calculated and presented will be made available on Sify's website. Before we continue, I would like to point out that certain statements contained in the earnings release and on this conference call are forward-looking statements rather than historical facts and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described.
With respect to such forward-looking statements, the company seeks protections afforded by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These risks include a variety of factors, including competitive developments and risk factors listed from time to time in the company's SEC reports and public releases. Those lists are intended to identify certain principal factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements, but are not intended to represent a complete list of all risks and uncertainties inherent to the company's business. I would now like to introduce my Chairman, Mr. Raju Vegesna. Chairman.
Raju Vegesna (Chairman)
Thank you, Praveen. Good morning. Thank you for joining us on the call. India's emergence as a global growth hub is no longer a forecast. It is a present-day reality. India is set to become the third-largest economy by 2030-2031, with the projected annual growth of 6.7% according to S&P Global. This growth is underpinned by liberal economic reforms, a vibrant startup ecosystem, and a geographic dividend. With the second-largest internet user base globally, India is now an important testbed for emerging technologies such as AI, 5G, and cloud computing. Government initiatives like Digital India and Startup India have further accelerated tech innovation, with India now home to over 100 unicorns.
For global enterprises, the convergence of policy support, digital infrastructure, and deep talent positions India as a growth opportunity that is both immediate and immense. Let me now bring in our Executive Director and Group CFO, Mr. M.P. Vijay Kumar, to explain both the business and financial highlights for the year. Vijay Kumar.
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Thank you, Chairman. We remain committed to cost efficiency and fiscal discipline, aligning our financial strategies with long-term value creation across each of our businesses. While we plan essential investments for future readiness, our current results face multiple headwinds of depreciation from substantial capital expenditure for our network and data center infrastructure, and substantial increase in manpower and upskilling the manpower to be relevant for the IT services opportunities ahead. Our approach remains to invest to build resilience, enhance operational agility, and capture emerging opportunities. The income tax expense includes tax, both current and deferred tax, of INR 539 million on profit of its data center subsidiary. The cash balance at the end of the year was INR 6,836 million. Let me now expand on business highlights for the year.
The revenue split between the businesses for the year was data center services 38%, network services 41%, and digital services 21%. As of March 31, 2025, Sify provides services on the network infrastructure via 1,137 fiber nodes across the country, a 10% increase over last year. As of 31st March 2025, Sify has deployed 1,870 contracted SD-WAN service points across the country. A detailed list of our key wins is recorded in our press release, now live on our website. Let me briefly sum up the financial performance for the year. Revenue for the year was INR 39,886 million, an increase of 12% over last year. EBITDA was INR 7,562 million, an increase of 12% over last year. Loss before tax was INR 286 million, and loss after tax was INR 785 million. Capital expenditure for the year was INR 12,745 million.
I will now hand over to our Chairman for his closing remarks. Chairman.
Raju Vegesna (Chairman)
Thank you, Vijay Kumar. Over the years, the business has given us a ringside view to how the ICT industry is evolving, and our combination of network, data center, and digital services and tools are our unique selling advantage. We intend to strengthen each of these over the coming years. Thank you for joining us on this call. I will now hand over to the operator for questions.
Operator (participant)
Thank you at this time.
Raju Vegesna (Chairman)
Operator.
Operator (participant)
At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Your first question for today is coming from Greg Burns with Sidoti & Company.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Morning. I'd like to just maybe dig into the quarterly dynamics of each of the segments and just maybe if we could start with network services. What drove the decline there this quarter?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
On the revenue side, there is no decline. On the expenses side, we had substantial expenses for some of our new capacities, which we had leased for the future business requirements.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Okay. When we look at your data center services, I think it declined a little bit sequentially, still up nicely year over year. Maybe you could just talk about that dynamic a little bit. Also, if we could just talk about your data center roadmap for this year, what is currently in the process of being brought live maybe over the next 12 months, what the roadmap for fiscal 2026 looks like for your data centers?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yeah. On the data center revenues, there has been a secular trend as far as the recurring revenues are concerned. There are some one-time revenues which keep coming in select quarters depending on the new customer's specific requirements. Otherwise, it has a very secular growth trend. As far as the capacities for the future is concerned, two facilities, greenfield facilities, have just gone live. One is at Delhi. Another is at Chennai. These are two facilities which have gone live. There are new capacities which are under construction in Mumbai, which should go live sometime in the next 12 to 18 months.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Okay. Maybe you could frame that new capacity in terms of where you were in terms of the number of data centers and megawatts of capacity and what those two that just came live, plus the third one that you expect over the next 12 months, how much incremental capacity those added?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yeah. Currently, we have on the ground design capacity of about 130 megawatts, which is operational. These two new facilities, which have been designed for an overall capacity of 130 megawatts each, of which in the phase one, each of them with a design capacity of 26 megawatts have been made ready and made available for service.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Okay. Okay. When we look at your CapEx expectations for fiscal 2026, are they about in line with where you were for fiscal 2025, or is it going to go up or down by any meaningful amount?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
The CapEx expenditure will be marginally higher, marginally higher.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Okay. Okay. Maybe we could just talk a little bit about the demand dynamics in India, particularly for data center colocation services. What are the primary factors driving the demand there? When you look at the supply in the market versus that demand, where is the market in terms of the supply of capacity needed to meet that demand?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yeah. At present, the demand still continues to exceed the supply in the market. The demand continues to be driven by the cloud consumption by Indian enterprises. The hyperscalers who are currently operating in India continue to expand their footprint in the light of increasing cloud consumption. As far as AI-led demand is concerned, we are at the early stages of its growth. There are active conversations happening with the enterprises for their AI-led demand for the future. The demand-supply gap continues to be favoring additional capacity creation at this point in time.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Okay. Lastly, in terms of maybe your operating leverage, I know you've been investing in the resources necessary to drive your future growth. How should we think about potential operating leverage as revenue from some of these infrastructure investments start to scale?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yeah. The operating leverage for our network investment, the network infrastructure business, and the data center infrastructure business, both of them are positive levers for us to drive as we build scale. On the data center infrastructure services side, while the increase in margins will be in probably a few basis points, on the network side, we have the potential for increasing our margins substantially with higher capacity utilization in the foreseeable future.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
All right. Great. Thank you very much.
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is coming from Jonathan Atkin with RBC.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
Thanks. I wanted to follow up on the last response just around demand. Is the mix that you see going forward of demand on a megawatt basis more likely to be driven by Indian enterprise as direct tenants of your data center platform, or is it more likely to be driven by international hyperscalers?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
We expect in the short term the demand to be driven by the international hyperscalers. We are at the same time witnessing a good amount of Indian enterprises engaging in setting up private clouds, hybrid clouds, and also actively engaging in cloud repatriation as well. In the short term, it will still be hyperscale-driven. Over the medium and long term, we should see more Indian enterprise consumption happening.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
On the hyperscale side, has the demand broadened by the number of CSPs and other hyperscalers that are looking to grow into India, or is it generally the same group of companies that you were seeing in your sales pipeline a year ago?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
It is generally the same. We are seeing one or two local cloud service providers emerging, but they're still too small to reckon for the scale at which the hyperscalers are operating.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
No, my question was on the international hyperscalers then. Is it the same group of?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
It is the same. It is the same.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
Are there others that are?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yes.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
Okay. I mean, just given that India is believed to have faster build times and lower barriers to entry, there seems to be continuing interest in terms of foreign capital getting into that segment of the market. What are you seeing in terms of availability of resources, whether it's electricians, contractors, power, land, and then just overall pricing environment? How would you characterize that?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
It is pretty stable. The interest for capital providers continues to be there. On the land, power, and the pricing part of it, we aren't seeing any material changes. It's pretty stable at this point in time.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
Finally, the build times, construction timelines, has that changed notably in the past 6 to 12 months?
M.P. Vijay Kumar (CFO)
Yeah. It has improved compared to we all came back after COVID where it took a substantial amount of time due to supply chain constraints. Those are now behind. There is marginal improvement. Given the fact that there is substantial demand for creating capacity, the timelines have not changed materially, but they are marginally improved.
Jonathan Atkin (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Once again, if there are any questions or comments, please press star one. We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Raju for closing remarks.
Raju Vegesna (Chairman)
Thank you all for your time on this call. Have a good day. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
This concludes the conference.
Gregory John Burns (Analyst)
Thank you, Holly, for your time.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.