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    Simulations Plus (SLP)

    Q2 2025 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Apr 4, 2025
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    • Consistent and Resilient Software Business: The Q&A highlighted that the software segment continues robust organic growth — 8% organic growth was noted even when excluding one-off contributions. Moreover, despite a slight dip in fee-based renewals due to a singular large account, the underlying software infrastructure remains insulated from clients’ cost constraints, supporting steady recurring revenues.
    • Strong Pipeline and Cross-Selling Opportunities: Management emphasized a healthy backlog and active pipeline, including significant cross-selling initiatives across the ALI and Medical Communications units. For example, robust bookings and successful upsell efforts, along with a $20.4 million backlog, suggest a solid framework for future revenue growth as these engagements ramp up.
    • Disciplined Cost Management Supporting Margin Objectives: Executives reiterated their focus on maintaining a linear expense load and achieving margin targets (between 35% to 40% EBITDA margins). Their ability to manage cost effectively, even in a challenging environment, underpins the potential for improved profitability as revenue increases across quarters.
    • Delayed Services Revenue Recognition: Although services contracts are being booked robustly, clients are deferring project initiations, which may push revenue into later periods and affect near-term results ** **.
    • Declining Software Renewal Rates: The fee-based software renewal rate fell from 94% to 90% due to the delayed renewal of a large account; continued downward trends in renewals could undermine recurring revenue growth ** **.
    • Macroeconomic and Regulatory Headwinds: Persistent cost-conscious spending, potential adverse impacts from tariffs, and uncertainties in the broader macro environment could pressure future investments from biopharma clients and slow revenue momentum ** **.
    MetricYoY ChangeReason

    Total Revenue

    +22.5%

    Total revenue increased from $18.305M to $22.432M due to a combination of stronger software and services performance. This rise reflects expanded product adoption and improved customer engagement relative to Q2 2024, supporting the overall growth trend.

    Software Revenue

    +16%

    Software revenue grew from $11.61M to $13.484M as a result of continued product innovation and upselling efforts, building on previous period gains. The sustained investment in key platforms helped secure new licenses and renewals that contributed to the 16% YoY increase.

    Services Revenue

    +33.6%

    Services revenue surged from $6.69M to $8.948M, driven by a robust improvement in project bookings and strong performance in service-driven business units. This significant 33.6% increase indicates effective execution and possibly expanded scope or resolution of prior delays, reflecting a healthy pipeline relative to Q2 2024.

    Geographic – Americas

    +29.3%

    Revenue in the Americas increased from $12.461M to $16.112M as the region maintained its core strength with enhanced product uptake and client expansions. The nearly 30% jump is consistent with strategic initiatives and robust market demand in the region relative to the previous period.

    Geographic – Asia Pacific

    +28.4%

    Asia Pacific revenue increased from $1.179M to $1.514M, reflecting a targeted focus and growth acceleration, particularly in software sales. This YoY growth of 28.4% underscores the success of market expansion efforts compared to Q2 2024.

    Geographic – EMEA

    +3%

    EMEA revenue saw a modest increase from $4.665M to $4.806M, representing a slight improvement in a region that appears to be growing at a much slower pace compared to the Americas and Asia Pacific. This change likely reflects regional challenges or market saturation as other regions delivered stronger double-digit growth.

    Operating Cash Flow

    -78%

    Operating cash flow fell dramatically from $5,810K to $1,278.39K, a 78% decline driven by lower net income, significantly increased accounts receivable, and pricing or cost pressures seen in the current period. This contrasts sharply with previous period cash generation, raising concerns about liquidity despite revenue expansion.

    MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange

    Total Revenue

    FY 2025

    $90 million to $93 million

    $90 million to $93 million

    no change

    ALI and MC Contribution

    FY 2025

    $15 million to $18 million

    $15 million to $18 million

    no change

    Year-over-Year Revenue Growth

    FY 2025

    28% to 33%

    28% to 33%

    no change

    Software Mix

    FY 2025

    55% to 60%

    55% to 60%

    no change

    Adjusted EBITDA Margin

    FY 2025

    31% to 33%

    31% to 33%

    no change

    Adjusted Diluted EPS

    FY 2025

    $1.07 to $1.20

    $1.07 to $1.20

    no change

    Effective Tax Rate

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    21% to 23%

    no prior guidance

    Revenue Split for Full Year

    FY 2025

    Evenly split in Q3 and Q4

    no current guidance

    no current guidance

    Second Fiscal Quarter Revenue

    2Q 2025

    Approximately 24% of the FY guidance range; YoY growth 18%-22%

    no current guidance

    no current guidance

    Third Fiscal Quarter Total Revenue

    3Q 2025

    no prior guidance

    Approximately 25% of the FY guidance range

    no prior guidance

    Third Fiscal Quarter YoY Growth Rate

    3Q 2025

    no prior guidance

    Between 21% and 25%

    no prior guidance

    Fourth Fiscal Quarter Revenue

    4Q 2025

    no prior guidance

    Sequential step-up in revenues vs. Q3

    no prior guidance

    MetricPeriodGuidanceActualPerformance
    Revenue
    Q2 2025
    "Expected to be approximately 24% of the FY 2025 guidance range (i.e., $21.6M to $22.32M)"
    "22.432 million"
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    Year-over-Year Growth
    Q2 2025
    "Expected YOY growth of 18% to 22%"
    "22.5% ((22.432 million- 18.31 million) ÷ 18.31 million)"
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    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Software Revenue Growth and Renewal Dynamics

    Q1 2025: High growth (41% YoY overall, 18% organic) with robust renewal rates. Q4 2024: Modest software growth with renewal timing issues and product-specific challenges. Q3 2024: Consistent growth across segments with solid fee- and account-based renewal rates.

    Q2 2025: Software revenue grew 16% YoY with organic growth at 8%, while fee-based renewal rates declined (90% vs. 94%) due to timing of a large account’s renewal.

    Recurring theme with mixed sentiment: Growth remains solid but lower relative to Q1 2025, and there is increased caution regarding renewal timing in Q2 2025.

    Pipeline, Bookings and Cross-selling Opportunities

    Q1 2025: Robust services bookings with strong pipeline and active cross-selling between business units. Q4 2024: Pipeline health confirmed with active backlog and strategic cross-selling initiatives post-acquisitions. Q3 2024: Solid pipeline and backlog with optimistic cross-selling discussions, particularly with Pro-ficiency integration.

    Q2 2025: An active pipeline is noted along with robust bookings (backlog at $20.4 million) and significant cross‐selling opportunities despite some delays in project initiation.

    Generally positive but tempered by execution delays: The narrative remains positive for pipeline and cross-selling, though delays in project starts hint at more cautious revenue recognition.

    EBITDA Margin Targets, Cost Management and Operational Efficiency

    Q1 2025: Targets reaffirmed (31%-33% guidance, working toward historical 35%-40%), with a focus on cost reduction and integration of new business units. Q4 2024: Emphasis on returning to historical margins via integration efficiencies and expense reclassification. Q3 2024: Focus on margin recovery despite temporary cost pressures from hiring and acquisition-related expenses.

    Q2 2025: The company reaffirmed its target of 35%-40%, emphasizing disciplined cost management, capacity matching, and operational improvements (including use of AI and training modules).

    Stable focus with incremental improvement: The company maintains a consistent focus on margin targets, with a continued emphasis on cost management and operational efficiency to support improvements amid evolving revenue levels.

    Delayed Service Revenue Recognition and Client Data Delays

    Q1 2025: Noted that client-driven data delays caused a postponement of project ramp-ups; strong bookings balanced delays. Q4 2024: Highlighted delays in MC revenue recognition and PBPK unit impacted by client data delays. Q3 2024: PBPK revenue impacted by client data delays, described as postponements rather than cancellations.

    Q2 2025: Delays persist with service revenue recognition pushed to later in the year and contracts signed for future starts; client data delays remain a key factor in postponing project initiation.

    Consistent challenge: This recurring issue continues to impact short-term revenue timing, with persistent client data delays and conservative project start decisions evident across periods.

    Macroeconomic and Regulatory Headwinds

    Q1 2025: Cautious tone amid a challenging funding environment; clients’ spending under pressure with varied activity levels. Q4 2024: Noted cost and funding constraints with mixed indicators for 2025 but cautious optimism. Q3 2024: General market improvement with cautious outlook and mixed spending patterns; minimal regulatory concern.

    Q2 2025: The environment remains cautious and cost-conscious with steady software performance and minimal regulatory risk; customers continue to exercise caution in spending.

    Steady but cautious sentiment: While the macroeconomic backdrop remains challenging, regulatory risks are minimal and the overall tone is one of cautious optimism with clients remaining budget-conscious.

    Pro-ficiency Acquisition and Integration

    Q1 2025: Integration viewed as expanding market reach into clinical operations and medical affairs; revenue contributions met expectations with early cross-selling opportunities. Q4 2024: Described as transformative—doubling TAM, integration of sales teams, and some revenue delays but overall strategic for FY2025. Q3 2024: Announced acquisition progress with expected EPS accretion and gradual margin improvements.

    Q2 2025: Integration is progressing with active pipeline contributions, revenue from ALI and MC business units, and notable large contracts; slight revenue recognition delays and cost impacts are acknowledged.

    Optimistic integration with minor execution delays: The acquisition continues to deliver strategic benefits and expanded opportunities, although execution issues like slight revenue delays and cost impacts remain under close watch.

    Funding Environment and Client Budget Visibility

    Q1 2025: Challenging, cost-constrained environment with varied client activity; robust client engagement and anticipation for 2025 budgets. Q4 2024: Continued funding constraints with mixed budget signals but cautious optimism for 2025. Q3 2024: Signs of biotech funding recovery paired with cautious spending of large pharma clients; incremental budget visibility improvements expected.

    Q2 2025: Clients remain in a cost-constrained, cautious spending mode despite strong backlog numbers; contracts for clinical trial activities are set for later in the year, reflecting delayed budget execution.

    Cautiously persistent constraints: The restricted funding environment and limited client budget visibility are consistent, with slight backlog improvements offering some assurance even as spending remains cautious.

    Staffing Overcapacity Impacting Margins

    Q4 2024: Explicit concerns raised over overcapacity – hiring exceeding attrition led to margin pressure in services. Q3 2024: Noted that aggressive hiring and strong retention efforts resulted in temporary capacity excess impacting margins.

    Q2 2025: There is no specific mention of staffing overcapacity; discussion focuses instead on aligning capacity with service revenue through operational improvements.

    Issue appears mitigated: While previously a concern, staffing overcapacity is not mentioned in Q2 2025, suggesting that corrective measures may have been implemented to better align capacity with revenue needs.

    1. Margin Outlook
      Q: How reliant is margin target on macro factors?
      A: Management noted that while 35–40% EBITDA margins remain achievable, they depend largely on disciplined cost management and matching capacity to revenues rather than direct macro improvements.

    2. Software Growth
      Q: What is organic software growth if renewed?
      A: They reported 8% organic growth for software, excluding the Pro‑ficiency contribution, with a fee renewal dip due only to one large account’s delayed closure.

    3. Services Pipeline
      Q: How booked versus winning remaining services revenue?
      A: Management explained that about 90% of the services backlog is realizable, with remaining work scheduled for the next six months, extending past year‑end.

    4. Seasonality & Guidance
      Q: What drives Q3/Q4 revenue seasonality?
      A: The shift is due to continuous revenue from acquired businesses, leading to a leveling of revenue distribution in Q2–Q4 with only a modest uptick later in the year.

    5. Fiscal 2026 Outlook
      Q: What is the best-case for fiscal 2026?
      A: Management expects next year to mirror fiscal 2025, with steady software performance and cautious, consistent service revenue growth driven by market conditions.

    6. Revenue Mix
      Q: How reconcile software surge with slower service starts?
      A: They emphasized that strong software renewals continue because clients maintain critical systems, while service projects are being scheduled for later, balancing overall revenue timing.

    7. Pro‑ficiency Impact
      Q: How do seasonality and the $5M win affect Pro‑ficiency?
      A: They noted that Pro‑ficiency follows seasonal clinical trial starts, and the recent $5M win will boost later‑year services revenue without altering overall guidance.

    8. Contract Timing
      Q: Can services contract starts be accelerated?
      A: Management stated they work to speed client decisions through supportive measures, though inherent drug development timelines limit any drastic acceleration.

    9. Tariff Effects
      Q: How will tariffs impact the business?
      A: They cautioned that while global tariff effects could eventually influence pharma operations, current strong software growth mitigates any immediate risk.

    10. QSP Growth
      Q: What underlies the 89% QSP growth?
      A: The surge is driven by large disease model licenses from major pharma, though such high quarterly growth is not expected to be sustained consistently.

    11. FDA Impact
      Q: Do FDA layoffs stall biosimulation adoption?
      A: Despite disruptions at the FDA, fee-funded approval processes continue unaffected, so the momentum for biosimulation remains intact.

    12. PBPK Partnership
      Q: How long to deliver outcomes on PBPK partnership?
      A: They described a process with a 6-month coordination period followed by a 12+ month implementation, enhancing their GastroPlus product.

    13. S&M Costs
      Q: Is the S&M step-up from headcount or events?
      A: Management clarified that the increase to 17% of revenue is driven by conference costs rather than additional headcount.

    14. Cross‑Selling
      Q: How strong is the cross‑selling pipeline?
      A: They reported robust cross‑selling opportunities across their ALI and Medical Communications units, which is bolstering revenue from existing clients.

    15. Service Logos
      Q: Are services wins from legacy or new logos?
      A: Management indicated that wins are coming from both established client relationships and new engagements, supporting steady services revenue.

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