Sterling Infrastructure - Earnings Call - Q3 2020

Transcript

Donna (Head of Investor Relations)

Greetings and welcome to the Sterling Construction Company's third quarter 2020 earnings conference call and webcast. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded, and all participants are in a listen-only mode. There are accompanying slides on the investor relations section of the company's website. Before turning the call over to Joe Cutillo, Sterling Construction's Chief Executive Officer, I will read the safe harbor statement. Some discussions made today may include forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from the statements made today. Please refer to Sterling's most recent 10-K and 10-Q filings for a more complete description of risk factors that could affect these projections and assumptions. The company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Please also note that management may refer to EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, or adjusted earnings per share on this call, which are all financial measures not recognized under US GAAP. As required by SEC regulations and rules, these non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled to their most comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings release issued yesterday afternoon. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Joe Cutillo. Thank you, sir. Please go ahead.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Donna. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining Sterling's third quarter 2020 earnings call on this busy election day. I hope all of you have either already voted or plan on doing so. We often take for granted how great our country is and the freedoms that we have. The right to vote and guide our future is one of those freedoms we should never pass up. Before we go over the results of another great quarter, let's talk briefly about where we are with our strategy to transform the company by reducing risk, increasing margins, and diversifying our end markets. At the end of the third quarter, just over 50% of our total revenues came from our heavy civil sector, and less than 30% of our revenues are now coming from low-bid, heavy highway projects.

Remember, in 2015, we had well over 90% of our business coming from low-bid, heavy highway projects. This shift away from low-bid, high-risk jobs to alternative delivery projects in other end markets like aviation and rail has enabled us to increase our total margins in the heavy civil sector from low single digits to high single digits in just a few short years. Our residential and specialty service sectors now represent close to 50% of our total revenue and contribute over 90% of our operating income. These lower-risk, fast-return jobs not only produce more consistent margins but provide solid, positive cash flow and higher growth opportunities. As we go forward, the strategy will remain the same. We will continue to focus on improving margins in the heavy civil sector and organically growing our lower-risk, higher-margin residential and specialty service sectors.

In addition, we will begin looking for strategic tuck-ins and potentially a fourth sector acquisition once we achieve our post-Plateau acquisition debt targets. Now, let's talk about the fantastic results of another outstanding quarter. I'd like to remind everyone that no company can achieve the quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year results we have without great people. I'm proud to say our 3,000-plus employees proved again they are the best in the industry. For the quarter versus the third quarter 2019, our revenues were up 31%. Our operating income and EBITDA both more than doubled, and cash flows from operating activities more than tripled to $38.7 million. Our heavy civil sector's revenues and margins were both down slightly versus the third quarter prior year. These declines were predominantly driven by project mix and a change in estimated costs to complete a three-bridge project in Texas.

The mix shift was driven by lower aviation and alternative delivery revenues in the quarter versus prior year. We believe the mix shift was just a timing issue and will return back to normal in the fourth quarter. Our residential sector was up 6% in revenues and up 4% in operating income. The modest decline in operating margin was driven by a temporary price concession given during the peak of the pandemic, increased lumber prices, and a higher percentage of slabs coming from our Houston market. Our specialty service sector had significant increases in both revenue and operating income driven by the addition of the Plateau acquisition in the fourth quarter of 2019. Overall, the company had an outstanding quarter during some very challenging times and is positioned well to finish the year strong and on track with our guidance.

With that, I'll turn it over to Ron to give you more details on the quarter and the year to date. Ron?

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

Thanks, Joe, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to provide a summary of our 2020 third quarter results. With this being a full year of including the Plateau acquisition in our consolidated results, most of the acquisition, integration, and new financing noise-related one-time costs are now behind us, providing a cleaner picture of our financial performance. The actions we have made, progressing our multi-year strategy, including the transformational acquisition of Plateau, continues to be apparent in substantially all of our financial measures. Today's conference call, together with our earnings release, Form 10-Q, and the investor deck posted to our website, should provide insight into our strategic progress in delivering strong earnings and cash flow and improving liquidity while reducing risk. Not to be overlooked, this strong performance came during the most challenging period across our country in many decades.

Now, let me take you through our financial highlights, starting with our backlog metrics on slide number five. At September 30, 2020, our backlog totaled a record high of $1,238 million, a 16% increase over the beginning of the year. Heavy civil backlog increased 13%, while specialty services backlog increased 25% from the beginning of 2020. The gross margin in our third quarter 2020 backlog was 12.4%, a 90 basis point increase from December 31, 2019. Unsigned low-bid awards totaled $270 million at the end of September 2020. We finished the third quarter with combined backlog of $1,508 million, a 12% increase over the start of the year. The gross margin of our combined backlog increased to 11.6% at September 30, 2020, up from 11% at the beginning of the year.

Our year-to-date 2020 book-to-burn factors for the combined heavy civil and specialty services segment were 118% and 117% for backlog and combined backlog, respectively. Note that the book-to-burn computations include only the revenues from heavy civil and specialty services and exclude residential revenue, as it is not a backlog-driven business. Please flip to slide six for a summary of our consolidated results. Note that the slide includes quarterly results for three periods: the second and third quarters of 2020 and the comparable prior year third quarter. Given the magnitude of the Plateau acquisition and the related acquisition financing and changes in NOL accounting, which occurred in late 2019, the second quarter of 2020 was included to highlight the "same store, sequential quarter revenues." Our third quarter 2020 revenues of $383 million increased by $92 million, or 31%, over the comparable 2019 quarter.

Third quarter 2020 specialty services revenues increased by $107 million over the comparable 2019 period, driven by the Plateau acquisition. The acquisition was also the major driver of the significant increase in gross profit and the 300 basis point gross margin improvement over the periods. The Q3 2020 revenue decline from the sequential prior quarter reflects a $17 million reduction in heavy civil revenues. I will discuss the significant year-over-year segment results in a moment. The increased SG&A from Q3 2019 reflects a Plateau acquisition, including corporate-related costs, while the SG&A decline in the sequential quarter was principally the result of lower stock-based compensation expense. The third quarter 2020 decline in other operating expense net for both prior periods reflects a decline in gross profit from our 50% owned consolidated subsidiaries, reflecting a lower income sharing expense.

This decline reflects the temporarily lower revenues during the end gross margin from a change in mix in Q3 2020. We continue to expect our full year other operating expense net to be in the $14-$16 million range. Operating income for Q3 2020 was $29 million for an operating margin of 7.5%, which was consistent with our expectations. Operating income for Q2 2020 totaled $33 million and an operating margin of 8.25%. Our record second quarter 2020 operating returns benefited from entering the second quarter with record combined backlog and poor weather in Q1 2020, which pushed incremental revenues and earnings into the 2020 second quarter. Higher net interest expense in both 2020 periods over the 2019 period reflect the acquisition-related borrowings. Our effective income tax rate for the first three quarters of 2020 was 28.5%, compared to 8.9% for the comparable 2019 period.

Beginning in 2020, our income tax expense includes a non-cash tax provision of approximately 22% of our taxable income or approximately $11 million year-to-date. We expect our full year effective income tax rate to be approximately 28.5%, an increase from our previous expectation of 28.2%. Our third quarter net income totaled $15.2 million, or $0.54 per share, compared to the third quarter of 2019 net income of $8 million, or $0.30 per share. Third quarter 2020 EBITDA increased more than two times to $36.7 million from $15.4 million over the comparable 2019 period. Slide seven highlights the third quarter segment results. Heavy civil revenues decreased by $18 million, or 8%, in the third quarter, reflecting a $6 million increase in heavy highway revenues and a $24 million decrease in aviation and other heavy civil revenues.

This temporary revenue mix change to a higher heavy highway component had a negative impact on our operating returns for the quarter. Also during the quarter, heavy civil results included a charge for increased estimated costs to complete a three-bridge project in Texas. We continue to expect substantial completion of these three bridges in the first, second, and third quarters of 2021. The increase in specialty services revenues and operating income primarily reflects the inclusion of Plateau in the 2020 results. Additionally, Plateau entered the 2020 second quarter with record backlog and, as I previously discussed, poor first quarter weather pushed work into the second quarter of 2020. Both of these factors together with a favorable project mix contribution to the second quarter 2020 operating margins. Third quarter 2020 residential revenues totaled $42.4 million, or a 6.3% increase over the third quarter of 2019.

Our Houston expansion continues to pick up speed. Houston accounted for 15% of residential's third quarter 2020 completed slabs, compared to 11% in the third quarter of 2019. Residential operating margins declined 50 basis points in the Q3 2020 period, resulting from temporary COVID-19-related pricing pressures from our customers and significant cost increase for lumber and concrete during the quarter. Now, let's move to slide 18, which summarizes our cash flow generation and deleveraging strategy. I'm sorry, slide eight. The graph presents our deleveraging expectations. Beginning with the October 2019 Plateau acquisition and the new five-year credit facility, our September 30, 2019 pro forma forward-looking EBITDA coverage ratio was approximately 3.5%. Based upon our continued progress in executing the strategic actions to improve our base business results and our confidence in the quality of Plateau's future cash flows, we were comfortable with a higher acquisition-related day one leverage ratio.

We set the objective to bring the coverage ratio down to 2.5 times by the end of 2021. The graph reflects where we are to date and our targets through the end of 2021. Importantly, only the scheduled funded debt payments are included in the leverage computation for the future periods presented. During the third quarter, we repaid the $20 million of revolver borrowings, which were outstanding at June 30, 2020. At the end of the third quarter of 2020, we had zero revolver borrowings and have full availability of our $75 million revolver. Our confidence in our deleveraging strategy has been reinforced by the experience of the first four quarters of Plateau results, together with Sterling's base business performance and our consolidated expectations. Examples supporting our confidence include record backlog levels with increasing gross margin.

Secondly, our first nine months of 2020 performance exceeded our initial expectations, supporting the mid-year increase in our 2020 revenue and net income guidance, even with the challenges of managing through the continuing COVID-19 issues. Next, our adjusted EBITDA for the first nine months of 2020 totaled $99.2 million, a $57 million improvement over the 2019 comparable period. We continue to believe that our full year 2020 adjusted EBITDA will be in the $125-$135 million range. In addition, our cash flow from operating activities for the first three months of 2020 totaled $90.9 million, a tenfold improvement over the $8.5 million of cash flow from operations in the comparable 2019 period. For the full year 2020, in addition to depreciation and amortization, we expect additional non-cash expenses totaling $24-$28 million. These non-cash expenses include the utilization of our NOL, stock-based compensation, and non-cash interest expense.

Finally, moving to our balance sheet, our September 30, 2020 cash equivalent balance totaled $72.6 million, compared to $45.7 million at the beginning of 2020. This cash increase reflects investing $20.5 million on net capital expenditures during the year-to-date 2020 period. Finally, please note that the third quarter 2020 investor deck posted to our website includes an appendix to assist our stakeholders with modeling considerations, understanding the key components of our cash flows, and various non-GAAP disclosures. Now, I will turn the call back over to Joe. Joe.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Ron. Once again, another outstanding quarter. As we look forward to the fourth quarter and beyond, our Dallas and Houston residential markets remain strong, and our largest customers remain bullish for 2021. Our specialty service sector markets are driven by multi-year build-out strategies that have only become stronger as a result of the pandemic.

In the heavy civil sector, we have seen several states around the country reduce their 2021 DOT budgets, and we anticipate 2021 bid activity across the country will be down slightly versus 2020. However, with our strong backlog, improved backlog margins, and our diversification away from heavy highway, we are less concerned about a significant impact in 2021 and believe 2022 will return to historic or above historic levels for the DOTs. As a result, we are holding our full year guidance and anticipate continued bottom line growth into 2021. Our full year guidance of $1,415 million-$1,430 million in revenues and an adjusted net income midpoint of $42.5 million represents a 73% improvement over 2019 and will deliver approximately $1.52 in earnings per share to our shareholders. Overall, 2020 will be another outstanding year for the Sterling team and its shareholders.

With that, I'd like to turn it over for questions. T

Donna (Head of Investor Relations)

hank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad at this time. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, that is star one to register questions at this time. Our first question is coming from Sean Eastman of KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Hi, gentlemen. Nice job this quarter.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Sean.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

I just wanted to start on the civil margins. Just trying to get some perspective on both the charge in the quarter, the increase in cost to complete, as well as the mix dynamic. Just as I try to think about where heavy civil margins should trend into 2021, trying to understand what sort of a normal range is there and understand how the mix is shifting in that business as we look into next year.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Yeah. I'll start off with the mix piece, and then Ron can get into the details. I wouldn't get too analytical and overly concerned about a significant mix change. It's really a timing issue. We had more active projects in this quarter in aviation last year. We've got aviation projects that are just getting ready to start. We've got the three big design-build projects that are in the early stages aren't fully ramped up.

That's the challenge is you always will have some lumpiness in this world, and it's really hard to compare. I would tell you, when we look at our backlog and our breakdown of our backlog, we have not seen a significant mix shift, with the exception in general, we've gotten less and less of the low-bid heavy highway. As we go into next year, we'll continue to shrink that part of the business. You want to go into the margins and?

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

Sure. Yeah, a couple of things in the quarter. The largest single item is the updated cost on the multi-bridge project in northern Texas here. This is a project that was bid and won in 2013, 19—it seems like 1913. Sorry, 2014. It is making progress. We continue to have challenges with the owner's design, and the related productivity comes out of that.

We took a $3.5 million charge in the quarter. The good news is we're still on pace to finish those jobs. The schedules are moving forward on a couple, backwards on one, but in the end, we continue to expect hitting our dates that we thought we would hit at the beginning of the year after the fourth quarter true-up and settlement we had with the Texas Department of Transportation on the project.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Sean, one of the things we're doing on that project is we will, I'm sure, between now and then, have change orders, claims that we'll try to fight for. However, we've taken the approach that we're paying as we're going. If we see a cost increase, we're going to take that hit now so that we don't come to the end and we've got a big adjustment or change. We're managing that very closely.

If we think we've got an adjustment, we're going to take the punishment, and we'll fight for claims and change orders when we get to the end and hopefully get some of those. We are trying not to build this big pent-up risk at the end of the project.

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

Yeah. Moving back towards the mix sort of beyond the $3.5 million, not a perfect storm, a bad perfect storm, maybe in the quarter. Yeah, our aviation revenues were down by about 50%. That is temporary. We have just under a quarter billion dollars of backlog in aviation. We should see that recover in the back half of the year. The most significant projects are in Salt Lake, into that Salt Lake City airport, and a couple others.

That together with the other large aviation in there is the project in the Pacific, which will really burn in the late first quarter and second quarter of 2021. Timing on those primarily. In the meantime, we continue to focus on the mix change from continuing to put pressure on what we bid on for hard bid or low bid, kind of same terms we use, work in Texas, particularly, which is a predominantly hard bid state. I think Texas revenues for the quarter over quarter were down $16 million by design. We will continue to work on that ratio to continue to focus on alternative delivery and non-pure heavy highway hard bid opportunities. I think we'll see that trend start to reverse as we continue to ramp up the projects.

They have been ramping up slower than the three big alternative delivery projects in the Rocky Mountain region, but they are full speed ahead at this point in time and will continue to ramp and is always subject to weather coming up on the back half of the fourth quarter when we get some snow flying in the Rocky Mountain states are in. I think kind of mostly back to usual. I think when you look at our backlog, the billion and a half combined, to Joe's point earlier, we do expect a slowdown in 2021. However, we have about, if you do the straight math, a year and three quarters of heavy civil backlog, which is probably the longest duration we have had in a long time. We are in good shape for 2021.

We'll see what happens on the bidding activity when hopefully the world gets back to a little normal and we move forward.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Gotcha. A lot of helpful detail in there. Just to round out the discussion, as we look into next year with the alternative delivery projects ramping up, presumably at sort of above overall segment average margin, what should we be kind of holding you guys accountable to in terms of where this heavy civil operating margin should be into next year? Should it be north of 2%? Any kind of just rough idea of range of expectations for what you would see as an acceptable margin performance in that segment next year?

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

I don't think we see that margin going backwards by any stretch of imagination. It'll continue to tick up from historicals as we wean off more and more of the low-bid heavy highway.

That's our lowest margin stuff. We kick in more of the alternative delivery and aviation. If you look at the differential of margins, there's several points between the two of what I'll call the low bid and get into alternative delivery. Sean, that should not be going backwards. That should be ticking up slightly and following. If you follow our backlog trends and our margins and our backlog trends, we picked up, what, 50 basis points or 60 basis points. Overall, the margin should follow that. We've been very good at executing right on or slightly above the average bid margins. The anomaly this quarter is that old three-bridge project where we took some more costs that we think we're going to have between now and the end.

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

Yeah.

I think as you look backwards, we essentially wound down our big projects all by the end of 2019. In 2020, we were really just ramping them up. A good indicator of our largest of those is our minority interest, which year to date is in the hundreds of thousands. That is about half the half ownership, if you will, by our partner, just under half. I mean, that is an indicator that we really have very few heavy highway alternative delivery work in 2020 that will ramp up a little bit in the fourth quarter. Long story short, if you look at Q3 year to date last year, before the fourth quarter, we would expect to beat that kind of average margin going forward, simply driven by the continued shrinking of the hard bid component of heavy highway backlog.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Gotcha. Great.

Then shifting over to specialty, clearly a marquee year for this business, pretty impressive results. I just wonder, is this a really tough comp in this business as we look into next year? It seems like the end market visibility and demand is very resilient. I wonder about from a capacity perspective, is there a point at which you've got to sort of ramp hiring and training and maybe some CapEx to actually grow off the mid-level?

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

You're hitting the nail right on the head. Our biggest challenge as we go into 2021 is that capacity piece. Not on yellow iron. We can always get yellow iron. The growth of the Plateau business this year far exceeded everybody's expectation. They're stretched to the limit right now.

We are working on what we call an active recruiting and training program for the next generation or incremental project managers and those sort of resources. The reality is that takes time. We do not expect anywhere near the increase next year that we saw this year year over year, but we will see some increase. The markets are strong. We feel very good about the market. It is just how much can we take on and make sure we deliver that same level of quality and service to these key customers. The last thing we want to do is disappoint them by trying to grow the business too quickly.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Interesting stuff. Thanks for all the color. I really appreciate it, guys.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Sean.

Sean Eastman (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Thank you.

Donna (Head of Investor Relations)

Thank you. Once again, that is star one to register a question at this time.

Our next question is coming from Brent Fielman of DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Great. Thanks. Great quarter.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Brent.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Maybe following up on specialty, Joe, talk a little bit about the market dynamics there. What are you hearing from your customers? Has there been unusual delays, anything like that as we start to frame some sort of external expectations into 2021?

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Yeah. I think what we've heard, what I think people underestimate is the big customers out there, these are multi-year plans, right? If you take Home Depot, they've got a five-year plan. Amazon's got a four- to five-year plan. They are pretty solid on those plans. There is some good visibility out there. If anything, we think between the data centers and the e-commerce side of the world, with the pandemic, the activity around that seems to be greater, okay? The need is obviously greater.

We think that we will see as we get a little bit further into 2021, not only the same core customers that we've historically done business with, but we'll see more and more activities from other customers that are trying to accelerate their e-commerce activities. The difficult thing of that is, as you can imagine, you don't just flip a switch and say, "We're going to double our distribution centers and e-commerce." There is some lead time with buying the land, securing the locations, all that kind of stuff. I don't think we'll see a major shift early in 2021. I think as we get into the back half of 2021, we'll see, not only in the beginning of 2021, continued strength with our core customers.

But in the back half of 2021, it wouldn't surprise me to see some bigger programs put in place by some of the, I'll call it the next tier of customers that are really earlier in the e-commerce phase of their strategy.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Okay. Joe, can you talk, understanding you guys are going to focus on paying down debt, delivering here over the next 12 months. Can you talk about some of the initiatives you have for the business next year related to either sort of adding new markets to specialty and residential or even any sort of cross-selling opportunities where one can leverage the other's capabilities?

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Yeah. We'll start with residential. The nice thing is that the Houston market is on fire and continues to be on fire. I think people are finally realizing everybody thinks that the Houston market is an oil-driven market.

That is no longer the case. This is a rapidly growing market for a lot of different other business reasons. We have plenty of runway within Houston to grow out over the next 12 to 24 months without any problem and still not have a dominant market share. I will tell you, though, in parallel, we're early. I think as we get into the back end of 2021, the Austin market appears to be coming on faster than we would have anticipated with the announcement of Tesla moving there and a few other big companies moving operations there. We're seeing builders trying to acquire land in and around that market at greater rates than they have historically. I think as we get towards the end of 2021, if it continues down this path, we'll be talking about Austin more for 2022 timeframe.

On the specialty side, Brent, our strategy is to let our key customers pull us to new geographies with them. The nice thing is we've recently been pulled to Tennessee with Facebook and to Mississippi with Amazon, which are both two new states for us, two new geographies. We're going to let them kind of drive and dictate where we go with them and where we expand. That's our first premise. We do also believe that there are some within the geographic footprint of specialty, there are some other markets and customers that we historically have not gone after, which would be natural organic growth for us. In parallel, we talk about buying down debt. We'll continue to do that at an accelerated rate.

If we could find the right tuck-ins to add incremental goods or services, I'll call it, to the specialty sector, which could broaden their footprint with their existing customers and get these, I'll call it, accretive margins to the company. We've started talking about that approach and have been kicking around some different ideas in that space.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Okay. That's great. Maybe on residential, talked about a little bit of compression in margins. I get the inflationary effects there. More wondering about the negotiations with customers getting back to kind of the pricing levels you've seen before.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Yeah. I will tell you, with the exception of one customer at the existing time, all the other customers have gone back to their historical pricing. We still have one customer that is resisting, but the others went back. We got a little bit of a timing issue there.

We believe that lumber prices should start coming back to normal in the first quarter of 2021. We saw lumber, to kind of put it in perspective, I think it was costing us over $300 more per slab than just lumber prices. They more than doubled for us in the period. That does not sound like a lot, but when you are doing the volume of slabs that we are doing, it is a tremendous amount. Remember, the slabs are smaller now than they were. As a percentage of cost, it is a sizable increase. The team did a great job of overcoming a lot of that cost. It would have been a lot worse if they just kind of took it and went status quo.

It was just the reality and the timing of that and unable to push those costs on in the middle of price reductions.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Okay. Great. Thanks, Joe. Maybe one more, Ron. If I take the EBITDA guidance, how much free cash flow you've generated year to date? I mean, it looks like you guys could be doing $90 million-$100 million in free cash flow this year. Is that roughly what you're expecting?

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

It is. It is. I think the team, across all of our segments, they have just done a fantastic job of managing not just collecting, but their whole investment in contract capital and otherwise. I think we will continue to grow that a bit and be in that range at the end of the year.

I think to your earlier question, we have locked in now since we kind of got a better feel for the fourth quarter and capital needs that will be at $20 million-$25 million in net CapEx. Wouldn't surprise me if that number eats up in 2021, but more to come on that once we understand that. Plateau, particularly, they don't throw around little bobcats. They throw around multi-hundred dollar piece of iron. We are very focused on making sure we get our best returns fed as they will have to be fed in new CapEx. We will be talking about that, obviously, in early 2021.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Okay. Maybe to push on that just a little more, Ron. I mean, respect the fact CapEx might come up a bit more. If Plateau holds up in the next year, obviously, the residential business probably looks pretty good.

Civil looks good. I mean, is there any reason to believe we can't generate around this range of free cash flow again in 2021?

Ronald Ballschmiede (CFO)

No, I think our model is working, and we wouldn't expect any big change in the model.

Brent Fielman (Analyst)

Yep. Yep. Okay. Thanks very much, guys. Congrats again.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Brent.

Donna (Head of Investor Relations)

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Cutillo for closing comments.

Joseph Cutillo (CEO)

Thanks, Donna. I'd like to thank everyone again for joining today's call. If you have any follow-up questions or wish to set up a call, please refer to the information provided in the press release associated with our investor relations. Thanks again for participating, and I hope everyone has a great day.

Donna (Head of Investor Relations)

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