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Savers Value Village - Q2 2023

August 10, 2023

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Operator (participant)

Good afternoon, welcome to Savers Value Village conference call to discuss financial results for the second quarter ending July first, 2023. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. Please note that this call is being recorded, and the replay of this call and related materials will be available in the company's investor relations website. The comments made during this call and the Q&A that follows are copyrighted by the company and cannot be reproduced without written authorization from the company. Certain comments made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements, which are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from expectations or historical performance.

Please review the disclosure and forward-looking statements included in the company's earnings release and filings with the SEC for a discussion on these risks and uncertainties. Please be advised that statements are current only as of the date of this call, and while the company may choose to update these statements in the future, it is under no obligation to do so unless required by applicable law or regulation. The company may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP measures to the most direct comparable GAAP financial measure can be found in today's earnings release and SEC filings. Joining from management on today's call are Mark Walsh, Chief Executive Officer, Jay Stasz, Chief Financial Officer, and Jubran Tanious, President and COO. Mr. Walsh, you may go ahead, sir.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Thank you for joining us on our 1st earnings call as a public company. I'm excited to be here today to share our story and talk about the tremendous opportunity ahead of Savers Value Village. Later, Jay will discuss the details of our 2nd quarter results and provide our initial outlook for the full fiscal year ending December 30, 2023. We are very pleased with our 2nd quarter results, which exceeded our expectations on both the top and bottom lines. Comparable store sales increased 5.5%, importantly, we saw consistent and steady demand throughout the quarter. The strong comps, combined with sales from new store openings, led to a more than 6% increase in revenue on a constant currency basis, our bottom line profitability remained very strong.

Despite a $2.4 million negative impact from foreign currency, we grew adjusted EBITDA nearly 5% to $89 million and increased adjusted EBITDA margin to 23.5% of sales. Stepping back from the numbers, we continue to see a number of positive trends driving our business. The reuse economy and the thrifting community are growing, and this is fueling strong donation volumes and increasing diverse customer base. We are investing in people, process, and technology to drive productivity and sales yield levels that generate extreme value to our customers and strong returns to our shareholders. For those of you who may be less familiar, Savers Value Village is the largest for-profit thrift company in the U.S. and Canada. Our mission is to champion reuse and inspire a future where secondhand is second nature. What do we mean by that?

Well, every day, millions of pounds of clothing and household goods are thrown away, despite the fact that they still have years of usable life left. In most cases, these items go to a landfill. Savers changes this trajectory. By partnering with nonprofits, we redirect billions of pounds of used clothes and household goods away from landfills and onto our racks and shelves, reducing waste and conserving natural resources. We do it all while offering our customers a treasure hunt shopping experience and an average cost per item of less than $5. That's our incredible value proposition for consumers and the planet. That is why we like to say at Savers, we are focused on a triple bottom line: people, planet, and profit. We've been operating for-profit thrift stores for nearly 70 years, and we are nine times larger than the next for-profit competitor.

We're using our size and scale to further differentiate ourselves in a fragmented industry that has historically lacked innovation. It all starts with our business model, which is hyperlocal, socially responsible, and supported by the communities we serve. Our model combines innovative technology and data to vertically integrate the three highly complex parts of our thrift operations: supply and processing, retail, and wholesale. Through a strong focus on data analytics and technology, we are driving productivity gains across the enterprise and revolutionizing thrift operations. Over the last few years, we have introduced a number of key initiatives that are helping drive performance and strengthen our competitive advantages. First, we have implemented self-checkout kiosks in all stores and continue to improve store layout and signage. This has virtually eliminated wait times at checkout and enabled us to redeploy resources to merchandising and customer service, enhancing the overall shopping experience.

Next, we have expanded our use of GreenDrop locations. These mobile donation locations are placed in convenient, high traffic areas that optimize for high-quality donations, strengthening our supply base. They are staffed with team members to make drop-offs quick and easy. Finally, on the automation and technology side, we have begun rolling out automated book processing units and Central Processing Centers. Our automated book processing system is an integrated set of technologies to simplify and speed up how we sort and price books. The system uses high-speed conveyors, optic recognition, robotic tagging, and an automated distribution system to determine the best price for each book. Our Central Processing Centers are investments in the future as we test and learn these off-site, semi-automated facilities that mechanize the flow of goods and pricing.

Both our automated book processing units and our Central Processing Centers should drive improved efficiencies across the supply and the pricing of items over time, while deepening our competitive advantages. As I mentioned earlier, our operating initiatives are also powered by strong secular trends, like the growth in the reuse economy, the rise of secondhand goods, and the growing popularity of thrifting. This, in turn, is increasing our TAM and providing exceptional growth opportunities. Our model has proven to be very resilient over the last 16 years, with positive comparable store sales growth in all but the COVID year of 2020. We have made a number of operational improvements over the last few years that have resulted in significant increases in productivity and profitability, and we are now focused on growth.

We are entering a new and accelerated growth phase for the company, driven by new store openings, densifying our presence in markets where we are strong, continuing to strengthen our access to quality supply, acquiring established brands with loyal customers, and leveraging our size and infrastructure to enhance our competitive positioning and drive profitable growth at scale. We are ramping towards a target of high single-digit % unit growth annually, with an accelerated unit growth plan of 12 new stores this year, 22 new stores next year, and 25 or more in the years thereafter. That growth is supported by an infrastructure we built and are continuing to augment to penetrate the growing TAM and the long-term store potential in North America. As you hopefully are beginning to see, we are truly unique.

We believe in something big and inspiring, a company that grows its bottom line and benefits people and the planet. People, planet, and profit, that is our triple bottom line, and that is what makes Savers Value Village a unique, purpose-driven company. In closing, I want to thank our entire team for all they do each and every day. We would not be where we are today without our amazing teams, both in stores and at our support centers. Their passion and commitment to our mission and the reuse economy is at the heart of our success. Together, we are making a difference, and I am proud of what we do and how we do it. With that said, I will turn it over to Jay to discuss our financial results. Jay?

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Thanks, Mark. It's a pleasure to be speaking to everyone today on our first quarterly earnings call as a public company. Please know that since our IPO closed on July third, we will be accounting for this transaction in our third quarter, and our second quarter results do not include certain non-recurring items related to the IPO. As Mark indicated, our second quarter results were strong across the board and came in ahead of our expectations from both a top and bottom line perspective. Net sales increased 4% to $379.1 million. On a constant currency basis, net sales increased 6.2%.

The increase was driven by comparable store sales increase of 5.5% and new store openings, partially offset by our optimization plan to drive sales yield at the acquired 2nd Avenue stores and the closure of 3 Canadian stores in 2022. The strong comp demand was fairly consistent across all 3 months of the quarter, with April and June slightly above the average and May slightly below the average. Looking at our sales by country, our U.S. retail net sales increased 4.4% to $196.5 million. Comparable store sales in the U.S. increased 5.6%, driven by growth in transactions. Our Canada retail net sales increased 2.4% to $153.5 million, which includes an unfavorable impact of foreign currency.

Comparable store sales in Canada increased 5.5%, also driven by growth in transaction volume. We opened one new store in the second quarter and a total of nine net new stores over the past 12 months, ending the second quarter with 318 stores. Our new stores are performing well and right in line with our expectations. Cost of merchandise sold, exclusive of depreciation and amortization, increased 5.6% to $154.9 million. The increase was primarily related to higher labor and material costs from our increased store count, strong transaction growth, increased wage rates, and one-time costs associated with the ramp of our first CPC in the United States and the integration of 2nd Avenue.

Salaries, wages, and benefits expense increased 1.9% to $67.3 million, driven by the scaling of our business to support our growth initiatives and investments in wages, partially offset by the benefit of self-checkout kiosks. As a percentage of net sales, salaries, wages, and benefits expense declined 40 basis points to 17.7%. SG&A expense declined 4% to $73.3 million. Last year's SG&A included a $3.3 million charge for a one-time adjustment of fixed assets. Excluding this charge, SG&A, as a percentage of sales, decreased 70 basis points to 19.3%. Depreciation and amortization increased 4.6% to $14.7 million due to capitalized expenses related primarily to new stores-... Our strategic initiatives, including the self-checkout kiosks, automated book processing units, and Central Processing Centers, as well as maintenance CapEx.

Interest expense increased to $27.7 million due to the issuance of our $550 million senior secured notes on February 6, 2023. We had a $4.5 million net gain on foreign currency in the second quarter. This relates to our term loan held by our Canadian business that gets revalued each quarter based on changes in foreign currency rates. Net income increased 13.6% to $35.1 million, or $0.24 per diluted share, compared to $30.9 million, or $0.21 per diluted share a year ago. Diluted weighted average shares outstanding in the quarter were 146.2 million and did not include IPO-related equity awards or IPO-related common shares.

Adjusted net income for the second quarter was $32.6 million or $0.22 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA increased 4.7% to $89.3 million. Our adjusted EBITDA margin increased 10 basis points to 23.5%. As a reminder, this EBITDA includes a foreign currency headwind of $2.4 million due to the changes in the Canadian, Australian, and U.S. currency rates year-over-year. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with cash of $111.6 million. Total borrowings of $1.1 billion. For the first half of the year, we generated $54 million of cash from operating activities, demonstrating continued strong cash flow conversion.

After the end of the second quarter, and on July 3rd, we completed our initial public offering of 18.8 million shares at a price of $18 per share. Net proceeds to the company were $305.7 million. We used the proceeds, plus existing cash on our balance sheet, to redeem $55 million of our senior secured notes and to repay $252.4 million of outstanding borrowings under the term loan facility, as well as accrued interest and premium under the term loan and the notes. These transactions resulted in a loss on extinguishment of debt of $10.6 million, which will be recorded in the third quarter.

After making the principal payments, our total borrowings were approximately $820 million, and our net leverage, based on a trailing twelve-month adjusted EBITDA, was 2.3 times. Let me conclude by laying out our initial outlook for the full year ending December 30th of 2023. We expect to open 12 new stores and end the year with a total of 326 stores. Total net sales of approximately $1.51 billion. Comparable store sales growth of approximately 5%. Net income of approximately $23 million. Adjusted net income of approximately $98 million. Adjusted EBITDA of approximately $320 million, and capital expenditures between $100 million and $105 million. A few additional items to keep in mind when modeling out quarters and full year.

With the IPO closing on July third, we expect to incur IPO-related stock comp expense of approximately $48 million in the third quarter and $21 million in the fourth quarter, which will be included in the salaries, wages, and benefits line on the P&L. This is non-recurring stock comp that will be excluded from adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income. Our full-year net income guidance of $23 million assumes an effective tax rate of 44%. Our GAAP effective tax rate will move around quite a bit over the next several quarters as a result of the application of IRS Section 162(m) as a public company as it relates to our IPO stock comp and the dividend-related bonuses paid in Q1, as well as our foreign currency gains or losses associated with the term loan held in Canada.

Our full-year adjusted net income guidance of $98 million assumes a statutory tax rate of 29% and a foreign exchange rate of 0.75 for the Canadian dollar. Post-IPO, we had approximately 160 million shares outstanding, and our diluted share count was approximately 172.5 million. That concludes our prepared remarks. We would now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator (participant)

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your touchtone phone. Again, that's star followed by the number 1. If you would like to withdraw your request, please press star followed by the number 2. Your first question comes from the line of Matthew Boss from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Matthew Boss (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Great, thanks, and congrats on a nice quarter.

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Thanks, Matt.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Thanks, Matt.

Matthew Boss (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Mark, could you elaborate on comp trends that you saw as the second quarter progressed, or just any change in momentum or customer behavior that you've seen in July? Larger picture, could you speak or elaborate on new customer acquisition trends and initiatives in place to retain these new customers?

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Certainly through the quarter, the second quarter and into July, the trends have been pretty consistent, Matt. You know, in, in the second quarter, trends were up, transactions were up 6.8%. Baskets were, were still down on the enterprise level, around 1%. That trend hasn't really changed much into, into July. Donation volume remains steady. Transactions continue to drive good comps, and we're really excited that particularly strong member transaction trends remain remain solid. Both transaction, transaction growth from both member and number-- non-member side have been continuing to grow through the second quarter into July. The database, the loyalty database has grown at a solid pace, high single digits. The store teams are really focused on signing up new individuals.

That's, that's probably one of the principal things that our front-end supervisors are focused on. We're, we're very happy with the continued progress of loyalty sign-ups moving forward. I think one of the other things that I would, I would like to mention is, we continue to see through our own internal survey metrics, an influx of younger customers. That's obviously very encouraging for us in the long term. What's really interesting is our boutique stores in Canada were over-indexing in these new loyalty customer sign-ups, which is equally exciting. I think that, I think that answers pretty much all, all your question, right?

Matthew Boss (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Absolutely. Yeah, that's great color. Then maybe as a follow-up, Jay, could you just help break down the drivers of the second quarter gross margin decline, and then how best to think about gross margin through the back half of the year as you continue to grow sales yield?

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Yeah, Matt, for sure. You know, as you pointed out, right, we did have a little bit of a headwind on our cost of merchandise sold during the quarter. That was more than offset with the leverage that we got on operating expenses. Breaking that headwind down in the 2nd quarter, it really comes down to two components, and they're split about evenly within the quarter. One was, we made higher labor investments. We made a conscious decision in June to increase our processing, which is really designed to match, you know, the demand and the solid comp sales trends that we saw during June. From a material standpoint, we did have a couple one-time items related to...

as we closed the books for the second quarter, related to the ramp of our Hyattsville CPC, and then the continued integration of 2nd Avenue.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Matt, let me add one thing, though, on the, on the sales yield side. With sales yield up 8%, we love the fact, and I, I think Jubran and I would love the trade of having higher retail sales, a little less processing and driving that sales yield up. We love that trade, and we're, we're very pleased with the outcome from a store productivity perspective.

Matthew Boss (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Congrats again. Best of luck.

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Thanks. Thanks, Matt.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Randal Konik from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Randal Konik (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Thanks a lot, guys, and good afternoon. I, I wanna start with Mark. Give us some perspective on... maybe unlock a little bit more on, on the GreenDrop side of things, and, and how that strategy has, you know, unlocked more quality of product versus just the quantity addition. Maybe, you know, a personal example, where I'm from the area of Long Island, you have a store in West Hempstead, has a certain demographic around that store. Then you have a GreenDrop location at the Walt Whitman Mall that has a, a, a different set of demographics, which gives you, I would think, you know, higher quality of goods from that GreenDrop location.

Maybe just give us some perspective on what the GreenDrop locations have done to kind of unlock that quality factor in the goods that you're getting. Thanks.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Yeah, Randy, I think Jubran and I will tag team that one. I'll give a quick contextual start. You know, I think it goes back to the yield dynamic and the yield metric that we've talked about a lot. As we think about yield improving, especially at 8%, there are two things happening. There's the improvement of quality supply, and I think that's part and parcel of the Green Drop strategy, and then the ability for us to continue to utilize our backstock in the most effective way possible. Those two pieces of execution through the supply chain are really helping us drive yield. The Green Drop, obviously, then, is a supercharged element of that particular strategy.

Jubran has, has got a lot more information on where we're headed and where we, where we stand with respect to the rollout of the GreenDrop facilities.

Jubran Tanious (President and COO)

Yeah, thanks, Mark. Hey, Randy. Yeah, we're pretty excited about this. I mean, just a quick reminder for the group, you know, the GreenDrops are a staffed mobile donation location. They're clean, well-maintained, and really, they bring convenience to the donor. We've talked about this in the past. Convenience is paramount. GreenDrop allows us to meet the donor where they already are in terms of their daily, weekly routine. You know, landlords like them because they help drive traffic and incremental rent. Municipalities like them because they're a convenient way for donors to donate, and they avoid the problems that are sometimes accompany standalone unmanned bins. Exactly to your question, Randy, you know, we know that high-quality supply helps drive selection and sales yield.

Matching those two things together is a pretty full powerful combination for us into the future. Our target this year is to open 50 Green Drop locations. You mentioned a couple in Long Island, and we're looking in lots of markets to place these in high-traffic, affluent areas of town. We currently have line of sight to opening 40 to 45 locations, and we continue to build our pipeline towards our target. You know, all up and all in, very excited about the prospects, not just this year, but into the future.

Randal Konik (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Yeah, it's great. Another area I wanna kinda get into here is the concept of varying productivity between the U.S. and Canada, because I think it's clear or correct, that, you know, when you think about the volumes you're doing in per unit in Canada, in a, in a market that has, I think, a higher awareness of the Value Village concept, and, and it's, I think the country is more into thrifting than in the United States. Yet the United States units are obviously higher, a higher amount of volume per unit, yet the U.S. doesn't have a lot of awareness of your concept of Savers yet.

Wouldn't it be fair to think through an opportunity for the volumes in the United States stores continuing to move markedly higher, as the, you know, concept of thrift kind of moves more-- it becomes more pervasive in the economy of the United States, but also the awareness of the Savers banner becomes more well aware, with the US consumer? Kind of give us your thoughts on that kind of dynamic or that concept that I'm thinking through.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Look, I, I think, Randy, there's a, there's a lot to unpack there. We love where we obviously, we love where we are in terms of brand awareness in Canada, standing at, you know, 90%+. You're certainly, you certainly got a bull's-eye on our ability to continue to monetize and drive growth in Canada. We've had some remarkably successful store openings in the last six months, so we feel really good about our Canadian presence. That said, the US, we're even more excited because of the strength of the growth pattern in thrift and what we represent. These are hyper local stores, hyper local markets. We get our supply and our demand from within a 8-to-10-mile radius of each store, generating that awareness through influencers, through great signage, through great presence, through great real estate. We're cracking the code on that.

Our new stores in the US are performing quite well. We're very happy with the performance. They're on pro forma, I think we're, we're delivering against that initiative in a way that we feel like will be repli- replicatable over the next 5, 10 years. We're, we're really bullish about our opportunities in the US and our ability to open up stores effectively.

Randal Konik (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)

Great. Thanks, guys.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Thanks, Randy.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Brooke Roach from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Brooke Roach (VP and Equity Research Analyst)

Good afternoon, thank you so much for taking our question. I was hoping we could dive a bit deeper into the strong sales yield growth that you've been delivering, particularly in this quarter. Can you talk a little bit more about the strategic initiatives that are driving that, your outlook on the sustainability of that momentum as you enter the back half, and as you comp some of these tougher compares into early 2024?

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Well, let's start... I think contextually, let's start, Brooke, thanks for the question. Look, we run our business to maximize cash flow for future growth, and we're doing this by increasing sales in every pound of product we process. Jubran and the operations team, they're focused on improving productivity across every possible element of our business model. Our store managers focus on sales, four-wall contribution, inclusive of both those front and back, back-of-house expenses. I think you're seeing that the fruits of that efforts play out as we've articulated over the last four years, and I think it will continue to go forward. You know, you're right, we had a great quarter in terms of sales yield improvement, but we're not done.

Yeah, I think that's right, Brooke, and, and I would say that, you know, we talk a lot about making sure that we match processing levels to demand. If we see that a particular store is enjoying a nice trend of strong transaction comp growth, then our operators will see that, and we will feed it accordingly to keep the flywheel going. You, you gotta start with processing levels and managing that well and matching it to demand to continue to enjoy robust sales yield. Beyond processing level, you know, as we've talked about, there are other factors that really come into play. We talk about use of price, we talk about use of space. All of those things are very data-driven through dashboards that our operators have at the store level.

So, to give you a very sort of timely and salient example, as we think about transitioning from summer into fall, each of our stores have dashboards that can tell them exactly what the sales performance is by square foot and by linear foot in our stores, so that you migrate through the season, and you match what customers are buying in that particular moment in time, as opposed to what a traditional retailer might do, which was a whole floor flip to fall, as an example. We try to match the customer exactly where they're at in terms of space, price, processing levels, and then we continue to do that in a data-driven way. We expect sales yields to be robust and strong as we go forward.

Brooke Roach (VP and Equity Research Analyst)

Great, thanks. If I could just ask one follow-up. I was hoping you could elaborate on your store opening pipeline. Could you give us an update on your lease signings that give you confidence in an accelerating pace of store rollout?

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Yeah, absolutely, Brooke. We are on pace for this year. I think Mark mentioned that we are going to open 12 new stores this year, feeling very good about that, with grand opening dates already set. We have 22 locations that we are set to open next year. We feel very good about the pipeline that is building for that.

Jubran Tanious (President and COO)

Here in the next few weeks, we will have signed our 16th lease. The pipeline sitting behind that is pretty robust. What's encouraging, and in general, and it's anecdotal, but I'll share, that there seems to be a real ground shift happening in the conversations that our real estate team are having, in terms of increased awareness and interest by landlords and developers. The team is doing a great job. We feel very good about the momentum that is building. We feel good about next year. Again, some of those productive dialogues that we're having with national commercial landlords are pretty exciting.

Brooke Roach (VP and Equity Research Analyst)

Thank you so much. I will pass it on.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lasser from UBS. Please go ahead.

Michael Lasser (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Good evening. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Given what you've done so far already this year, your guidance for a 5% comp increase through the full year would imply that trends are gonna slow, both on a, on a 1-year basis, as well as a 4-year geometric basis, if we roll back the clock to what you were doing, all the way back prior to the pandemic. Why, why would that be the case?

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Michael, this is Jay, look, the guidance that we have in the back half, we always plan this business right around the low to mid-single-digit comp. We have kept the guidance consistent with what we gave, you know, in our modeling and our thoughts previously. We have, in the back half on a consolidated basis, right around a 3.5% comp for both Q3 and Q4. Look, we think we're well positioned to do that. Obviously, we had a nice quarter in Q2, we thought it was prudent to maintain the back-half guidance as we, you know, had kept our expectations previously.

Michael Lasser (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

My follow-up, Jay, is you mentioned that the model levered by about 50 basis points on operating expenses for the 5.5% comp increase in the quarter. Is that the right algorithm that we should consider moving forward, or was there some unique factors, like the deployment of self-checkout, other cost-containment measures that had made the expense leverage look a little higher outside of some of the unique factors that you mentioned this quarter that may not be repeatable moving forward?

Jay Stasz (CFO)

No, I think, compared to our expectations, we did have very nice leverage in the quarter. That was driven by a combination of our scale efficiency, our good expense controls, as well as the strong comps. I mean, high level, right, if we can continue to comp above inflation, then that's when we get leverage. We did see nice leverage in the quarter on occupancy, self-checkout initiative, as you mentioned, which will anniversary early in 2024 next year, as well as corporate ST unit.

Michael Lasser (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Got it. All right, thank you very much.

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, just a reminder, should you have a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your touchtone phone. Your next question comes from the line of Mark Altschwager from Baird. Please go ahead.

Mark Altschwager (Senior Research Analyst)

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I guess to start out, Jubran, maybe following up on the comment you made a moment ago about how the conversations with, with landlords are, are changing. Does that potentially enable a faster pace of store openings, or maybe accelerating sooner than you would have otherwise planned? I'm curious your thoughts there and just, you know, overall, kind of the capacity of the organization from a, a pace-of-opening standpoint.

Jubran Tanious (President and COO)

Yeah. Hey, Mark. It's a good question. Listen, it certainly helps, right? I mean, just, just the, the general awareness and interest that we're seeing. You know, I would remind the group that finding attractive real estate is but one piece of the equation. You know, we also think about supply as a necessary ingredient. We, we talked about GreenDrop, certainly spent time talking about on-site donations. Listen, there's plenty of high quality, good volume supply that's out there, but we wanna make sure that we check that box in addition to finding a good parcel. You know, there's a few things at play. You know, I think as we've talked about as an executive team, we feel good about the commitments we have.

If we have the ability to go faster, we certainly will, but we wanna be very thoughtful about the stores that we open. We feel pretty good about where, where we're at. Yes, certainly it's a good development.

Mark Altschwager (Senior Research Analyst)

That's great, just a follow-up. I think you said basket down 1% in the quarter. Can you comment on any trends in AUR versus UPT and just any opportunity you see to take price in any particular categories to offset some of the higher labor costs? Thank you.

Jubran Tanious (President and COO)

Yes. Yeah, look, Mark, this is Mark. Look, I think that the, the basket as is, as what we've described in previous conversations, we're seeing that trade-off. There has been some price being taken, and the consumer is just shifting the number of units they're putting into that basket, and that's where you end up at that basket being down. There's definitely a price-unit trade-off happening pretty consistently. As we've also talked about, price increases are very strategic in nature. They're done on a category-by-category basis.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

... across geographies, and it's all based on sell-through. We will continue to employ that very deliberate strategy to execute against our price increases moving forward.

Mark Altschwager (Senior Research Analyst)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Mark Petry from CIBC. Please go ahead.

Mark Petry (Analyst)

Yeah, good afternoon. I actually just wanted to follow up on a couple of the topics you've already discussed. Jubran, specific to the comment around the perception of from landlords and developers, fair to say this is in the US you're talking about, and you're, you're essentially catching up to the experience you already have in Canada, or, or is that underway in both markets?

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Yeah. Hey, Mark, good question. Yes, I would say the phenomenon is in both countries, but to a larger degree in the U.S. As Mark mentioned earlier, you know, we have such strong unaided brand awareness and presence in Canada, that we're really a very well-known quantity there. Yet, there still continues to be great opportunity for us in Canada. Yes, the lion's share of what I mentioned earlier, Mark, is in the United States.

Mark Petry (Analyst)

Yeah. Okay, perfect. You highlighted the strength and the benefit of the small format stores. I think you have 2 of those locations open. What are the plans for expanding that format?

Mark Walsh (CEO)

On the, on the boutique side, we have been very pleased with our performance. Today, we have 2 in Toronto and 1 in Vancouver. And again, as I mentioned, I think one of the things that we're really excited about is the over-indexing of the youth, youthful customer coming into that store and signing up to be part of the loyalty program. That's a very exciting piece of the equation for us as we deliver Savers, that Savers experience into a more urban setting. We will continue to prosecute boutique opportunities as they become available. I think the only thing I would say about the boutique opportunity is a Canadian-only strategy at this moment.

Operator (participant)

Thank you.

Mark Petry (Analyst)

Sorry, yeah, yeah, I was, I was on mute there. Yeah, can I just ask one more? I just wanted to follow up, Mark, on the, on the comments around, around price. I know you have the tools to be pretty responsive on that, and I'm, I'm just sort of curious, you know, big picture, how, how you're kind of looking at that opportunity today versus, you know, maybe where you were 6 months ago or a 1 year ago. I don't know if you can kind of provide some context there.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Sure. Well, I think we're looking at it in a very consistent manner. I mean, we, we really are very strategic in the way we approach our price increases. The team really does look at it on a month-to-month basis, category by category, across geographies. We're, we're pleased that we continue to deliver value below $5. I think it's really powerful in terms of even though we have taken some price, we're still, you know, we're still driving exceptional value for our consumer, both in the US and in Canada. The AURs are, are up, you know, low to mid-single digits. Again, we're, we're very strategic in the way we're approaching those, those changes.

Mark Petry (Analyst)

Okay, appreciate all the comments. All the best.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Thanks. Bye.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Robert Drbul from Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.

Robert Drbul (Senior Managing Director of Equity Research)

Hi, good afternoon. Two questions from me. The first one is just, you know, with the completion of the IPO, can you just give us, Jay, an update on your expectation, you know, for where you're gonna end up leveraged, maybe at the end of the year, and sort of how you think about, you know, leverage going forward on the balance sheet? The second question is just bigger picture, higher level, but can you just give us some insight in, in terms of your relationships with the nonprofit partnerships and, you know, sort of any feedback that you've gotten over the last few months from your partners? Thanks.

Jay Stasz (CFO)

Sure. Bob, I'll start with the leverage question. As we talked about in the prepared remarks, post-IPO, our net leverage was about 2.3 times. I, you know, I would forecast by year-end to be, you know, right around 2 times or just slightly under that. As we've talked about before, I mean, this business, the beauty of this business is that it, it will continue to generate cash, especially now that we've paid down some of that debt, and so we would naturally delever, you know, say, 0.5 point a year. Like we've said, as a public company, we think a net leverage target of 1-2 times is the right place to be.

As we build our, our cash, you know, that's gonna be a discussion with management and our sponsor about the best ways to deploy that.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Bob, in terms of the nonprofit relationships, I think they've never been stronger. Actually, Gibran and I had lunch with our, our very important partner here in the Puget Sound area, and what you'll hear from all of our nonprofit partners is they're excited about our growth efforts because they grow with us, and it is a very symbiotic relationship. They're very bullish about what we're trying to do, and they want to be part of that growth trajectory. I would say the, the relationships have never been stronger.

Robert Drbul (Senior Managing Director of Equity Research)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Walsh for any closing remarks.

Mark Walsh (CEO)

Thank you, everyone, for your interest in Savers and participation on today's call. We look forward to speaking to you again when we report the third quarter. Thanks again.

Operator (participant)

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