Taboola.com - Q2 2024
August 7, 2024
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Operator (participant)
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Taboola second quarter earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone, and you will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jessica Karakatsanis, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jessica Kourakos (Head of Investor Relations)
Thank you, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to Taboola's second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. I'm here with Adam Singolda, Taboola's founder and CEO, and Steve Walker, Taboola's CFO. The company issued earnings materials today before the market, and they are available in the investor section of Taboola's website. Now, I'll quickly cover the safe harbor. Certain statements today, including our expectations for future periods, are forward-looking statements. They are not facts and are subject to material risks and uncertainties described in our SEC filings. These statements are based on currently available information, and we undertake no duty to update them, except as required by law. Today's discussion is also subject to the forward-looking statement limitations in the earnings press release. Future events could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated.
During this call, we will use terms defined in the earnings release and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. For definitions and reconciliations to GAAP, please refer to the non-GAAP tables in the earnings release posted on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Adam.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Thanks, Jessica. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us. Q2 was another strong quarter, beating guidance on both Ex-TAC and adjusted EBITDA, and with a meaningful cash flow conversion. We saw Ex-TAC grow 21% versus last year to $150 million. Adjusted EBITDA of $37 million, growing 138%, and free cash flow was over $26 million in Q2, growing 237% and demonstrating 70% conversion from adjusted EBITDA. Not only does this year represent meaningful growth versus last year, it shows our growth rates are accelerating, which is great to see. This is a clear result of our investment in AI, the unique data we have access to, and the laser focus we have on our strategy and execution.
Similar to last quarter, over 100% of our free cash flow was spent on share buybacks, representing our continued commitment to shareholder returns and confidence in our long-term strategy. With a strong first half of the year, 2024 is shaping up to be a transformational year for Taboola. As a result, we are reiterating our 2024 guidance for Ex-TAC, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flow, which continues to project meaningful accelerated growth in 2024 versus last year. And to put things in perspective, Ex-TAC is growing 25% versus last year to $667 million. Adjusted EBITDA of over $200 million, growing approximately 2x 2023, and over $100 million of free cash flow, which is also 2x 2023 levels.
2024 continues to be an important year for us as we progress towards building one of the most scalable companies in the open web. It's also setting a strong foundation for 2025 and onwards. When looking at our core business, we have two main focus areas for the remainder of 2024. One, ramping ad budgets now that Apple and Taboola Select were launched and Yahoo's advertiser migration is complete. The second priority is making advertisers successful by improving retention rates and growing NDR spend, which in return help us grow our yield. Last quarter, I talked about our focus on driving performance advertising, and we've had clear momentum here, which is reflected in our results and guidance with Ex-TAC growth rates improving in Q2 and in Q3. This growth is driven by our focus on premium advertising as a company while driving results.
With the rollout of Taboola Select across our top publishers, Apple now launched, and optimizing our performance on Yahoo, we see a big opportunity focusing on quality moving forward and bringing those budgets into the open web at scale. Our initiatives to attract tier-one brands and agencies showed strong growth year-over-year and accounted for 25% of revenue in Q2. Just this past quarter, we secured commitments from major advertisers in financial services, health and wellness, as well as online publishers, which represent $multi-millions in ad spend. Additionally, our demand out of China has more than doubled versus prior year and shows great traction in the region. Our investments in AI to drive advertiser success are a big part of our momentum.
Maximize Conversions, our first AI-powered bidding technology, continues to make significant strides, with adoption now approaching 70% of our revenue, up approximately 10 points from where it was in Q1. Thousands of advertisers are using Max Conversions today, and we saw a massive sequential increase of over 100% in the number of advertiser campaigns using this technology. Our efforts are concentrated on enhancing retention rates and increasing budget allocations, also known as NDR. We continue to see promising results from advertisers transitioning to Max Conversion, with double-digit NDR growth reported for those who have adopted the platform compared to those who have not. It's exciting to see more and more advertisers adopting our AI, as most of our revenue is performance-driven, which means we do not need to wine and dine people to use our technology. They try it out.
If it works, they stick around, and if not, they stop using it. Looking ahead, we continue to focus on advancing our AI models, leveraging our unique data to identify and match users with advertisers, driving results at scale. This type of performance we're seeing with our advertisers is exactly what the industry needs. You see, in the open web, there is no scalable bridge for advertisers to reach the open web with a focus on performance, and we are hard at work making it happen. More about AI, and without saying too much, I can tell you that we have a new generative AI offering coming to market soon. We call her Abby. This product is very impressive. Abby is laser-focused on driving advertiser success and addressing a key friction point for advertisers.
We plan to officially introduce Abby in the third quarter, and I suspect you will be amazed by what you'll see. Stay tuned for updates on this one. Now, I know all of you are thinking about Yahoo!, so let me give you an update. I'm happy to say we're done migrating Yahoo's advertisers, and we're hard at work growing budgets into the second half of the year. We keep seeing good performance from advertisers who have migrated, as demonstrated in one case study featured in our shareholder letter, where a leading hotel group took advantage of Taboola on Yahoo! and saw 77% lower CPA than their target goal and 36% lower CPA than the next best-performing channel. Another great example of our performance on Yahoo!
is evident in our work with a global technology company that achieved a 130% increase in impressions at a 28% lower CPM year-over-year when compared to similar campaigns. As we increasingly prove our performance with tier-one brands and agencies, invest in premium experiences for advertisers with the addition of Apple, Taboola Select, Yahoo, and more, it allows us as a company to grow ad budgets across the Taboola network overall. As a reminder, advertiser success drives yield growth, which bolsters our competitive advantage as well as our profitability. Turning now to our growth engines, Taboola News, e-commerce, and our bidder. Our product innovation and commercial wins continue to drive good momentum, and it shows in our financial results. In Q2, we signed a significant exclusive and global Taboola News OEM partnership.
This new deal will expand our reach into all global markets, featuring multiple touch points for users to discover news they may like. Our product team is focused on testing new video experiences, as well as various new utilities, such as weather, sports, and others. These enhancements resulted in over 20% increase in time spent on the Taboola News platform compared to Q1, 2024. Moving to e-commerce, we delivered another strong quarter. This success is driven by outstanding advertiser revenue retention in our core markets and the expansion into new high-growth advertising channels and international markets. We're now also seeing growth with creators across various social platforms coming to us with a desire to review products they're passionate about and drive performance to our merchants. We call that Shop Your Likes. It is showing amazing potential, and it is already contributing to our growth.
This early success positions us well to keep growing e-commerce in the years ahead. Moving to our bidding product, which is where we use our unique data, AI, and direct advertiser relationships to bid on supply that is not exclusively ours. We had a number of exciting developments in Q2. After successfully collaborating with Microsoft for several years now, I'm happy to say that we renewed our partnership and are excited to expand our bidder technology to capitalize on emerging supply opportunities. Our efforts are now focused on integrating with high-traffic platforms such as Outlook, Casual Games, and Microsoft 365. By extending our technology to these new areas, we aim to enhance our advertising capabilities and deliver even more targeted and effective campaigns across Microsoft's diverse ecosystem.
In summary, 2024 is shaping up to be a transformational year for Taboola, with a strong Q2 bidding guidance on both Ex-TAC and adjusted EBITDA, reiterating our 2024 guidance for Ex-TAC, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flow, and accelerating growth metrics in Q2 and for the year. There is a lot of good momentum in the advertising industry. I believe this market will reach $1 trillion in years to come, with more and more companies around the world looking to tap into advertising in a big way, utility apps, streamers, OEM, and more. While many companies would wanna sell to top brands, it's not easy, and many would want a friend like Taboola to access tens of thousands of advertisers, drive performance to them, and build a meaningful advertising business. We have the size, the tech, the sales force, and the experience to support many, many of them.
I often think of this like advertising in a box or advertising as a service, which we can do a lot more over the next 5-10 years as we partner with many great companies. There's a lot of good work ahead of us. It's a big step up financially and strategically for us, and we are ready. With that, let me pass the call to Steve to review our financials and outlook in more detail.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. As Adam mentioned, we've had a strong first half of the year and are well-positioned to continue this momentum into the second half. Let's dive into the details of our financial performance. Q2 results were strong and showed accelerating growth across all key metrics. Revenue of $428.2 million grew 29% year-over-year, and Ex-TAC gross profit of $149.5 million grew 21% year-over-year. Ex-TAC growth in Q2 was primarily driven by an increase in advertiser spend, particularly with tier one premium advertisers and growth in the availability of premium supply through our platform. Net loss was $4.3 million, with non-GAAP net income coming in positive at $23 million.
Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter of $37.2 million was up 138% year-over-year and reflected a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin. Free cash flow of $26.2 million benefited from the stronger than projected adjusted EBITDA. Q2 operating expenses of $122.4 million were essentially flat with the year-ago period, demonstrating our strong focus on cost discipline. Headcount increases were primarily limited to the growth areas of our business. With ongoing expense discipline and strong growth expectations, we continue to expect to approach our long-term adjusted EBITDA margin target of 30% in 2024. The GAAP net loss for Q2 of $4.3 million narrowed significantly from $31.3 million for Q2 2023.
Q2 2024 GAAP net loss included amortization of intangibles of $15.8 million, share-based compensation expenses of $15.7 million, and holdback compensation expenses related to the Connexity acquisition of $2.6 million. Excluding those items, our non-GAAP net income of $23 million exceeded the high end of our guidance range for the quarter. In terms of cash generation, we had approximately $38.8 million in operating cash flow in Q2, and free cash flow of $26.2 million. This includes net publisher prepayments, which contributed $23.6 million to cash flow, and interest payments on our long-term debt, which used $3.7 million. Turning to the balance sheet, our net cash balance remains robust. We ended Q2 with a net cash position of $29.5 million, even after share repurchases.
Cash and cash equivalents totaled $182.2 million, remaining above our long-term loan balance of $152.7 million. Regarding share repurchases, we bought back $26.7 million of shares in Q2. We still have $66 million remaining under our previously announced $100 million share repurchase plan. Our goal remains to at least offset dilution and maintain our share count compared to Q1 2023 levels. At the end of Q2 2024, our issued and outstanding shares were down by 2.7 million shares compared to the end of Q1 2023. For future cash use, we continue to prioritize share buybacks, given current valuations, though we will also consider paying down long-term debt if additional cash becomes available.
Now, turning to the future, I'm confident in the ongoing trends within our business and the capabilities of our team to sustain strong and accelerated growth. We've had a solid start to the year, and we're optimistic about the opportunities that lie ahead. Our guidance reflects strong expectations for Q3 and the remainder of the year. We continue to expect yield growth to turn positive in 2024, as we continue to ramp advertising spend due to our advertiser success initiatives and as contextual data increases due to our increased scale. With a strong first half and continued optimism for the year, we are reaffirming our annual guidance for gross profit, ex-TAC gross profit, adjusted EBITDA, and non-GAAP net income.
As previously stated, gross profit is projected to be between $535 million and $555 million, and ex-TAC gross profit is expected to be in the $656 million-$679 million range. That ex-TAC guidance reflects a 25% increase year-over-year at the midpoint. Our Adjusted EBITDA guidance remains over $200 million, and we expect free cash flow to exceed $100 million, representing roughly a doubling of both metrics compared to 2023. We anticipate non-GAAP net income of $84 million-$104 million for the year. We are updating our revenue expectations to $1.735 billion-$1.765 billion, representing a 22% growth at the midpoint.
This is primarily due to a test we'll be conducting as part of our ongoing collaboration with Yahoo! Specifically, we will be testing some new ad formats on a portion of Yahoo's inventory to see how they perform for advertisers and how much further financial growth we can generate. During this test period, that revenue will be recognized as a TAC offset rather than revenue. Therefore, our ex-TAC will remain approximately the same, but our revenue will be reduced. As I have said many times in the past, ex-TAC is the metric on which we focus and measure ourselves, and this change does not affect our expected 25% year-over-year increase in ex-TAC. I would also note that there will be no change to Adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow, or any other key metrics as a result of this test.
For the third quarter, we are issuing the following guidance. We expect revenues to be between $416 million and $446 million. Gross profit $129 million-$139 million. Ex-TAC gross profit $159 million-$169 million. Adjusted EBITDA $42 million-$52 million, and non-GAAP net income $20 million-$30 million. In conclusion, we are confident in our ability to expand and scale our business while adhering to a disciplined and balanced spending strategy. Our focus is on improving efficiency and profitability, even as we continue to invest in our growth. We believe that our ongoing investments in technology will yield long-term benefits for our publishers and advertisers, which will show up in our financial performance and therefore benefit our shareholders.
Our momentum is stronger than ever, with key milestones, including the completion of Yahoo's advertiser migration, our ongoing partnership with Apple, and a major new OEM deal for Taboola News. This progress brings us closer to becoming a must-buy for advertisers looking to engage with consumers around the world on the open web. And with that, let's move to Q&A. Operator, can you please open the line for questions?
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press *1 1, on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press *1 1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Laura Martin of Needham. Your line is now open.
Laura Martin (Analyst)
Hi there. Oh, my God, what great numbers, you guys! Congratulations. Zero cost growth on 20%, over 20% revenue growth. Congratulations. Fabulous.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you.
Laura Martin (Analyst)
My first question, so, you're talking about premium, but I would have said, Adam, that your entire business was built on these premium news websites. And so, when you're talking about creating premium, you know, focus on premium, I, I don't understand what you're, are you saying that the ad units are becoming more premium, or somehow your latest content you're signing up is even more premium than the historical news sites that you've had as publishers since your beginning? How is the new stuff more premium than the old publishers you used to represent?
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Yeah, good morning, and thanks for the question and kind words. So, I think, you know, the way I think about it is the Open Web always carries kind of a premium element to it as compared to UGC. Once you can imagine an advertiser campaign on a social network, there's always the risk of, you know, user-generated content above or below it, which is adjacent to it, and that's a risk. And you know, putting your ad on publishers such as Disney, and NBC, and CBS, I think always carries an editorial voice, which is, by definition, has a premium carried with it. So, I'm a big believer that, you know, that will stand the test of time, and it's important for advertiser community and for consumers.
What we're seeing recently with kind of the addition of Yahoo, Apple, and then the launch of Taboola Select, is that if you're able to create on those great publishers, independent, kind of standalone ad units, think of it like a homepage ad unit or others, then advertisers are willing to pay a premium to be kind of on their own. So, for that, you know, I think there's an opportunity for us to attract kind of bigger brands that will pay even more to be just on their own, and that's a big, It's now about over 20% of our revenue, and we think we have an opportunity to attract a lot of dollars from brands who historically would not come to us because of that.
Laura Martin (Analyst)
Okay. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. And then could you give us just a little bit of a deep dive on what's going on with Apple? What the countries are you in when you think about, like, the progress you've made on the oldest countries with Apple, what have you seen in Apple News in terms of the ramp, in terms of revenue growth rates? What's different about the advertisers you're getting on Apple News? Could you talk about Apple specifically, and the kinds of progress you're making there with that?
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Sure, I can address that. Hi, Laura. So, I think what we've announced publicly is that we're now rolled out in all four countries where Apple News and Apple Stocks are active, which is the U.S., the U.K., Canada, and Australia. So that is while it's not a global rollout per se, it is everywhere that they operate that business for Apple. And as we've said in the past, what we're basically doing is providing the advertising. So, if you swipe right on your iPhone, and you find the News app, and you click on one of the articles, in that article, you'll see ads. That's usually us. There is NBCUniversal also sometimes provides ads there, but it's usually us.
And then if you go back to the newsfeed, in that newsfeed, you'll see ads as well, and, and those are us as well. In terms of where we are, we haven't disclosed specifics on the ramp or the financials. What we have said is that it will be a ramp, meaning it's not a turn it on, and you immediately get a bunch of revenue. We actually have to sell demand specifically for this. So, it'll be kind of a ramp over time. We're making good progress there. We're excited about it 'cause it's, as you asked about in the first question about premium, it is the ultimate premium experience for advertisers. It's one of the only ways they can get onto native Apple apps and advertise their products and services. So, it's, it's exciting for advertisers.
You know, what we think the biggest impact for our business, we've said that we think this can be. Apple can be one of our biggest publishers over time. I'd say one of, it's not Yahoo level, but it can be a good size. But it especially helps us sell premium advertisers, and that's what we're seeing, getting a lot more premium advertisers interested in our supply.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Yeah, but one fun story is that we were just in Cannes, and we spent some time with the Apple team. And if there's ever a moment when you're so happy to be proud of your job is we sat together, and they shared how much they're excited and happy with our partnership, and that was nice to see and also for the team to be in that moment.
Laura Martin (Analyst)
Thank you very much. Great numbers, guys.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Thanks, Laura.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Helfstein of Oppenheimer & Co. Your line is now open.
Jason Helfstein (Analyst)
Hey, thanks for taking the question. Two questions. Can you provide the Yahoo contribution in the quarter? I mean, it was $100 million in the first quarter. I mean, if you don't want to be exact, you can say kind of plus or minus that. And then just any kind of, has your view changed on the contribution for the full year? And then second, you're not changing the outlook for revenue Ex-TAC. Maybe just give some color, specific areas you're seeing. Are you seeing any areas of weakness? We're, we're hearing some, you know, pockets of weakness from other companies in the ad market, versus kind of specific areas of strength you're seeing. Thank you.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Sure. I can start with kind of like high level, and then Steve, we can get into the numbers. So overall, Jason, in terms of the Yahoo partnership, you know, we're very happy. On the one side, I think it's given us special access to supply, special access to data, and that's something advertisers they wanna buy, and it performs well. I published in the letter some case studies. So, I think as it relates to our strategy to keep growing supply that is unique, data that is unique, and specifically works for performance advertisers, that's something that will play an important role, not only this year, but in years to come.
I also think it validates, you know, we just spoke about Apple, but as, you know, great consumer companies are considering tapping into the advertising space, Yahoo and Apple, and others will, will play an important role in just validating that Taboola can be a good partner. So, from that perspective, I'm happy. I think as it relates to Yahoo, I mentioned that advertising migration is finished. We're seeing great results. Again, we published some case studies. You know, we're laser focused on making sure that advertisers get to benefit from this partnership. And our main focus in H2 is to grow in budgets, from advertisers as we get into Q3 and Q4. Steve, maybe you wanna speak more about the numbers?
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Yeah. So, Jason, I think we've said that, you know, Yahoo is part of our core now. We're not really breaking out numbers there, so we won't get into real specifics on that. In terms of your second question, though, about areas of weakness and strength that we're seeing. So, we continue to see strength in e-commerce, so that's been kind of an ongoing theme for multiple quarters now, where we continue to see increased performance in our e-commerce units. So that's been a particular area of strength. Obviously, our growth this year is being driven also by the ramp of Yahoo, and so we're seeing a nice influx of high premium demand, premium demand on our site, on our platform. So that's been an area of strength, kind of just generally premium.
I don't think that there's specific areas that I call out that we're seeing particular weakness. There's always ups and downs in many areas. So, you know, in any given quarter, we have some areas that we didn't see quite the performance. But fortunately, we're diversified enough that it's not something that really, I would call out as being a particular area of weakness. The one other thing I would say is, obviously, we see strengths in certain geographies. For instance, China has been a market for us that's been particularly strong in terms of advertising spend, not for the Chinese market domestically, but more globally, spending on U.S. supply and the like. So-
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Yep.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
You know, geographically, we see some strengths and weaknesses as well. But, nothing, nothing, again, on the weakness side that really jumps out.
Zach Cummins (Analyst)
... Thank you.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Thanks, Jason.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of James Kopelman of TD Cowen. Your line is now open.
James Kopelman (Analyst)
Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. The first one is for either Adam or Steve. Now that advertisers are migrated and Yahoo is ramping nicely, can you help us think about a normalized growth rate for the Taboola core business or for core plus growth areas like news and e-commerce, relative to the historical growth framework that you've provided? And by normalized, I mean, looking at, say, you know, 18-24 months, what do you see as the ongoing growth opportunity for your combined business over time? And then I have a follow-up for Steve.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Sure, I, I can address that. Hi, hi, James, how are you? So, we—sorry about that. I asked you a question, and I talked right over you. But we've said in the past, and I think we still feel this way, that the way we kind of see our business going forward is that our normalized growth rate should be for our core business, we wanna see something in the 10%-15% range, and we wanna see that kind of consistency consistently each year, with a lot of that growth coming from increased ad spend and driving higher yields based on all of our investments in advertiser success and the like. So that's kind of our core business.
And then we want our growth drivers, Taboola News, e-commerce, bidding or bidded supply, to add to that growth and get us more in the 15%-20% range. So that's kinda how we see our business. So we've got our core growing 10%-15%, and then we see our growth drivers adding to that, you know, on the order of, you know, getting us up to 15%-20%.
James Kopelman (Analyst)
Great. And then a follow-up, I guess, also for you, Steve. You mentioned cost efficiencies as a continuing focus. What are some of the biggest factors driving your ability to effectively manage these cost lines, as you did so well in the second quarter, despite the strong revenue growth?
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Yeah, so that's a good question. So I think there's a couple of things that's helping with our efficiency over time. So one is some of the new supply that we are bringing on right now is highly scaled supply. So I've said this in the past, for instance, Yahoo, being one big publisher for us, doesn't take as much to support as you know the 5,000 smaller publishers that would be required to get to that level of revenue. So, you know, just scale of our supply helps. Also, some of the investments that we're doing in our technology platform to help advertisers succeed can help us be more efficient as well.
So for instance, we've done some demos of this, and Adam has talked about it. Some of the generative AI tools that we have now for advertisers to automatically create creatives and headlines and, you know, do a lot of the things that they found difficult previously, helps with productivity for the advertiser. It helps them do more things on their own, so we have to support them less. So that's helping us with our efficiency as well. And then I think in general, obviously, as we scale the business as a whole, scale just helps you become more efficient on a cost basis, naturally.
For instance, we don't need extra engineers to support our core business, even as it gets larger, 'cause there's a certain baseline level of support that you need, and you don't have to scale that up, so the scale itself helps. So I think those are the three areas I'd call out that are kind of allowing us to grow without increasing costs at the same pace.
James Kopelman (Analyst)
Great. Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the extra color.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Zach Cummins of B. Riley Securities. Your line is now open.
Zach Cummins (Analyst)
Yep. Hi, good morning. Congrats on the strong results, and thanks for taking my questions. First question I had is really, Adam, I wanted to ask any sort of incremental learnings that you can share, just with the migration, with the Yahoo advertisers now being complete? I mean, are there incremental formats or incremental, I guess, tools that these advertisers are looking for, that maybe you weren't expecting, going through the migration? Just curious, any incremental insights you can share on that front. And then I have one follow-up for Steve.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Yeah. So, a few thoughts on that. One, what we're learning from, you know, this size of partnership, and working with these great advertisers, and to me, really what I'm learning about the industry, is that on the back of, you know, pandemic, recession, the world war going through, whatever it's going through, the focus advertisers of all sides have on performance, you know, just mid-funnel and lower funnel, to make sure that whatever money they spend works, is just unbelievable to me to see. There's no more room for, "Let's spend and hope for the best. Let's get a bottle of wine over dinner and do some RFP." Those days are just gone. You're seeing advertisers of all sizes, you're seeing teams dedicated to understand and measure value of spend.
And I think this is for us very reassuring as it relates to our strategy to be, you know, the performance bridge for the Open Web and for advertisers of all sides to be able to spend on, you know, these great publishers. So that's one thing. Two, and I mentioned it earlier, we're seeing this opportunity with new formats and new placements in a way that is new to us. You know, in many ways, most of Taboola's business, pre-Yahoo, was bottom of article, and most of Yahoo's business is homepage and mail and new formats and new placements, and that's unique and special, and that helps us understand that different formats, different placements, and different environments can create new opportunities for advertisers to reach the Open Web, still looking for performance.
So that's something that's very unique, and as well as, like, look about the future, I think we're gonna be laser focused on this type of dynamics, where we have more not only just supply, but unique supply, unique data that can perform for advertisers. So, I would say, you know, premium, unique formats, but mainly the focus of performance from different type of advertisers is now more apparent to me than ever.
Zach Cummins (Analyst)
Understood. That's, that's helpful. And Steve, just my one follow-up question is just, and really helpful that you gave some insight to this within the script, but can you just talk about the dynamics that are lowering your gross revenue outlook? It seems like a testing phase with Yahoo. Is that something that will eventually revert back, and we'll get a much more normalized kind of conversion from gross revenue to ex-TAC gross profit?
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Yeah. So, first of all, yes, it will revert back. So, it's a short-term test that we're doing with Yahoo. And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we basically are testing new ad formats on some of their inventory to see if we can drive even better yields and even better advertiser performance. And during that test, we're recognizing the revenue as a TAC offset just because of the way that we set up the test, and that's the, you know, the fun of accounting. And therefore, our Ex-TAC should not be affected, but it affected gross revenue. So, and obviously, it doesn't affect Adjusted EBITDA or anything else. So, it's really just a technical accounting thing related to the way we set up this test with Yahoo. And yes, it will revert back.
We haven't disclosed exact, well, I guess I can say it should revert back early next year.
Zach Cummins (Analyst)
Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions, and best of luck with the rest of the quarter.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Condon of Citizens JMP. Your line is now open.
Matthew Condon (Analyst)
Thank you for taking my questions. My first one is just on Maximize Conversions. You guys are approaching 70% of revenue. You know, as this product becomes more widely adopted, you know, what are the next key priority, maybe key product priority areas that you guys are focused on, on driving improved yields? And then my second one is, is this under a new partnership with Microsoft in the quarter? I know you guys are expanding the bidder to other areas. Just what, what can we expect from this over time from a financial perspective, or what's the ramp there? What are you guys hoping for? Thank you so much.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Sure. I can start. So, from advertiser success initiatives, as you know, that's our main focus as a company, as we believe there's so much growth for us, this year and next, and next years, given our unique access to supply already. So one, we're happy to see that the adoption keeps going up from 60% to 70%. That's a significant step up from the Q1. The second thing that I mentioned in the letter, which is impressive, is that not only more advertisers are using it, but the amount of campaigns that are using max conversion has doubled. So now you're seeing basically more engagement with clients, you're seeing more engagement on a per-campaign basis, and this is all driven by our AI investment.
And what we like to see here is essentially two things: We want to see retention rates going up, as in, it's easier to become a successful Taboola advertiser or client, and we wanna see NDR going up, which means that your spend with us is going up over time. I did mention that we're seeing double-digit NDR rising over the last Q1 versus Q2, and that's very encouraging. And as it relates to, you know, what's coming after us, so first of all, we're not done. I did mention Abby, which is a GenAI initiative in my letter. It was a tease that relates to what we believe is a big friction point for advertisers in the ecosystem in general. So you should stay tuned for an exciting Q3.
You know, not Apple launching a new iPhone, Taboola launching Abby. So, this is all coming up, and that will help advertisers be successful with GenAI initiatives. And then later, we're working on introducing Maximize Revenue, which will allow advertisers to have basically multiple kind of pixel to maximize revenue across a variety of products they may wanna sell. This will come after. So, we're very hard at work, you know, keep rolling out Max Conversion. We're gonna roll out Abby in Q3. Stay tuned. It's gonna be really, really cool. And then next, revenue will come after, after that. So, all of those things. What we want to see, and track is retention rates and NDRs.
Stephen Walker (CFO)
To your second question about Microsoft. Yeah, so we are happy to say that we renewed our partnership with them. The renewal comes with some interesting new opportunities to actually bid on new supply areas that we didn't have access to before, such as Outlook, Casual Games, Microsoft 365. So, we think this is a great opportunity. I think we've teased this a little bit in past quarters, where we said we thought there were some back half growth opportunities with Microsoft. That's what these are. It's basically expanding what we do with Microsoft to new areas. So, we think that's exciting, and we're looking forward to having access to that new inventory.
Matthew Condon (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Adam Singolda, CEO, for closing remarks.
Adam Singolda (CEO)
Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning and, for your support. As you can sense, we're very excited to close out the first half of the year with another strong quarter, with our growth rate accelerating. As I look ahead, there's a big opportunity for us, as there's such a gap in the market for advertisers to reach premium open web and drive results at scale, while driving results for and growth for journalism. I can tell you that there's something that, I believe is a significant gap in the market, and we are laser focused on making it happen. We look forward to meeting many of you and sharing our progress. Thanks for being part of our journey.
Operator (participant)
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