United Rentals - Earnings Call - Q2 2020
July 30, 2020
Transcript
Speaker 0
Welcome to the United Rentals Investor Conference Call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded. Before we begin, note that the company's press release, comments made on today's call and responses to your question contain forward looking statements. The company's business and operations are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond its control and consequently actual results may differ materially from those projected. A summary of these uncertainties is included in the Safe Harbor statement contained in the company's press release.
For a more complete description of these and other possible risks, please refer to the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 3139, as well as to subsequent filings with the SEC. You can access these filings on the company's website at www.unitedrentals.com. Please note that United Rentals has no obligation and makes no commitment to update or publicly release any revisions to forward looking statements in order to reflect new information or subsequent events, circumstances or changes in expectations. You should also note that the company's press release and today's call include references to non GAAP terms such as free cash flow, adjusted EPS, EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. Please refer to the back of the company's recent investor presentation to see the reconciliation from each non GAAP financial measure to the most comparable GAAP financial measure.
Speaking today for United Rentals is Matt Flannery, President and Chief Executive Officer and Jessica Graciano, Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Flannery. Mr. Flannery, you may begin.
Speaker 1
Thanks, Jonathan, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our call. I'll begin with a statement that sums up our position on 2020. We believe we've weathered the worst of the economic impact from the pandemic. And while the shape of the recovery remains unclear, the wholesale shutdown of the macro has started to lift.
Visibility is still somewhat limited, but near term indicators suggest that activity in the second half of twenty twenty may continue to track with seasonal patterns, which is something that we saw in June and July. The COVID response plan we shared with you in April is working. We can point to tangible gains from executing that plan, most notably a strong second quarter performance. More than anything, our results confirm the flexibility and resiliency of our operating model. It's one of the reasons we feel comfortable reintroducing full year guidance.
I want to start with a few metrics from the second quarter. And after that, Jess will take you through the results and the guidance in detail, and then we'll go to Q and A. One highlight of the quarter is OEC on rent. I'm happy to report that rental volumes in all of our geographic regions finished the quarter above the trough they had in April. And for the company as a whole, that low point came on April 9.
From that date through June 30, fleet on rent showed fairly steady improvement, rebounding by almost 14%. This translates to over $1,000,000,000 of incremental fleet on rent. The biggest takeaways from the quarter have to do with the five work streams we introduced in April. And to remind you, they are ensuring employee safety, supporting the needs of our customers, showing discipline with both our CapEx and our operating expenditures and proactively managing our balance sheet. I'll first speak to the cost management.
This was very evident in our results. We aggressively flexed our operating expenses to mitigate the revenue loss, resulting in a decline of just 50 basis points in adjusted EBITDA margin. Our margin in the quarter was 46.4%, implying a strong flow through of about 50%. I see proof of our cost vigilance every day in our spend on things like third party services and overtime. And while certain costs will return with volume, the team has gone above and beyond to run a lean shift.
Turning to CapEx. We're now guiding to a range of 800,000,000 to $900,000,000 for 2020. This is significantly lower than the $2,100,000,000 of gross CapEx we spent last year. Our primary focus this year is to serve customers with the fleet that we already own. And when we do make selective investments, they're targeted to specific opportunities.
And as a result of this cost and capital discipline, our free cash flow generation in the quarter was a very strong $817,000,000 This is a year over year increase of almost 300%. I'm particularly pleased we achieved these numbers without compromising our capacity for the future. This means no branch closures, no COVID related layoffs. We've thought long and hard about this playbook for years, and it came together quickly in March. We're taking a measured response that serves the near- and long term interest of the company.
Jess will have more to say about the financial impacts of the work streams, but I wanted you to understand just how well our field organization is rising to the challenge. And it was a huge ask of them to provide essential services during such a difficult time, and they're doing a great job. Not only did the team embrace the health and safety protocols in our COVID plan, but they did it safely with another recordable rate below one. The work streams also give you a bird's eye view of how we're maintaining our competitive advantages. In short, we're managing the business in a way that leverages our value proposition.
Customers see us as a business partner capable of delivering value across all of their needs and under all conditions. And throughout this pandemic, we've been determined to meet this expectation, and I'm happy to say we're succeeding. Now a few comments on the operating environment. It's certainly been a turbulent few months. Industrial activity has deteriorated more than construction, and that's not surprising given the domino effect of COVID on different parts of the industrial economy.
For example, as people stayed at home, the decline in demand for gasoline and jet fuel significantly impacted our petrochem customers. And on the construction side, non res is a very broad category that covers a lot of different market dynamics. And some of the verticals have stayed busy throughout the pandemic, like power and data center builds. And others are obviously more challenged, like retail or hospitality. And now with states reopening, we see the same COVID news you do about areas that are struggling to avoid spikes in the infection rates.
And so far, it hasn't had any additional impact on our business. Our focus is on monitoring market conditions that could be triggered by infection rates, like state and provincial construction restrictions. So we'll continue to keep a close eye on that. We're also seeing demand continue for our Specialty segment, which is holding up very well. Our strategic investments in Specialty are making helpful contributions to the segment revenue this year.
Another positive has been the strength of the used equipment market. So far, retail demand has remained solid. We view this as a leading indicator, meaning contractors expect to need equipment for their upcoming projects. And we've been able to leverage that demand to recover more than half of our original investment on equipment that's over 7 years old. Big picture, we know that our end markets will recover at different speeds in different areas.
Fluctuations like this allow us to leverage our strengths of flexibility, diversification and scale. We have a deep fleet of fungible assets that we can shift between construction and industrial sectors and across geographies and verticals. Even in this environment, our flexibility helps to mitigate the pressure on revenue. We could also pivot to new opportunities that may arise from COVID. For example, the idea of repurposing large commercial properties has been floated by some construction analysts.
This could create some incremental demand in the construction space. So that gives you some color. Our customers are still working their way out of the tunnel, and it's our job to be the partner that helps them get there. And what we're hearing from our customers is that they have the same feeling we do about 2020: reasonable near term visibility with current work and backlogs and less visibility in late 'twenty and 'twenty one. In the meantime, we're on course with our plan and making good progress.
All things considered, we delivered a strong second quarter with solid fundamentals for profitability. The things that we told you we could control, we did control, And we moved fast in a very volatile environment. The guidance we provided reflects our best estimates on what we can achieve, barring some significant change to the operating environment. The ranges are a bit broader than we typically provide at midyear, but that's the reality of the times we're operating in. And under any scenario, we expect to generate significant free cash flow this year.
And if the economic impacts, COVID linger on, we have additional flexibility and we can leverage in our business model to remain resilient. I'll wrap up with something I talked about last quarter when I stated that the value we preserve now will be the foundation for the value we create in the future. A big part of that value is our commitment to being first call for customers under all market conditions. We've been putting our best efforts in delivering on that commitment. And our Q2 results show that our best efforts and our business model are more than up to the task.
Not only are we preserving value, we're doing it strategically in ways that will drive returns today and in the future. Now with that, I'll hand the call over to Jess to cover the numbers. Jess?
Speaker 2
Thanks, Matt, and good morning, everyone. I'll cover the highlights of the second quarter, which were, of course, significantly impacted by COVID-nineteen. I'll also share an update to our debt structure and finish with some comments on our 2020 guidance before we move to Q and A. There's a lot to cover, so let's jump in. Rental revenue for the second quarter was $1,640,000,000 which is down $318,000,000 or 16.2% year over year.
Within rental revenue, OER decreased $264,000,000 or 15.8%. In MAP, fleet productivity was down 13.6% or $226,000,000 as primarily reflecting the decline in volume we experienced during the quarter due to the pandemic. Inflation of about 1.5% cost us another $26,000,000 and a 0.7% drop in the average size of the fleet was a $12,000,000 headwind to revenue. Rounding out the decline in rental revenue for the quarter was $46,000,000 in lower ancillary revenues and $8,000,000 in lower re rent, which together were a 40 basis point headwind to revenue. Let's move to used sales.
Used sales revenue was down 10.7% or $21,000,000 year over year, which is almost entirely due to less used fleet sold to OEMs in trade packages. The retail used market remains quite strong. OEC sold at retail was up 17% year over year despite a slow start at the beginning of the quarter. Used margins in the quarter were healthy as well. Adjusted gross margin on used sales was 46%.
While that's down from 49.2% in Q2 last year, it's up 30 basis points sequentially from Q1. Retail pricing was down about 6% off last year's peak, but consistent with what we saw in the first quarter this year. Finally, proceeds as a percentage of OEC were a robust 54%, and that's on fleets sold that was on average over seven years old. Taking a look at EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $899,000,000 down $174,000,000 or 16.2% year over year.
And here's the bridge on the dollar change. The impact from rental was a drag of $197,000,000 OER was a headwind of $179,000,000 with ancillary and re rent down a combined 18,000,000 The used sales impact on EBITDA was a headwind of $16,000,000 Year over year, SG and A was better by $48,000,000 with the majority of that benefit coming from lower discretionary costs, including T and E. To a lesser extent, we also had lower commissions and bonus accruals versus Q2 last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was a highlight in the quarter, coming in at 46.4%. And while that's down 50 basis points year over year, our margin clearly reflected our commitment to aggressively manage costs, particularly in the early part of the second quarter when volumes were most depressed and restrictions were still in effect.
Our focus on costs is also evident in adjusted EBITDA flow through of 50%. Through the second quarter, we continued to action reduced overtime in house to reduce the use of third parties and canceled or delayed discretionary spend, mostly in G and A. The second quarter flow through benefited from the flexibility we have in our business model to respond quickly on cost. Cost control remains a major focus for us, especially for discretionary spending. But a good portion of our costs will continue to flex with volume.
For example, spend on delivery if necessary as volume increases through the season, and we need to re reposition fleet to service our customers, and those expectations are included in our guidance. Back to the second quarter results and adjusted EPS, which was $3.68 and includes $0.30 of benefit from discrete tax items. That compares with $4.74 in Q2 last year, and the year over year decline is primarily due to lower net income from lower revenue in Q2 this year. Let's move to CapEx. Year to date, through the end of Q2, we brought in $353,000,000 in gross rental CapEx, while proceeds from sales of used equipment have been $384,000,000 resulting in negative net CapEx of $31,000,000 Together, these results reflect our continuing focus on capital discipline.
Turning to free cash flow, another highlight through the end of the quarter. We generated over $1,400,000,000 in the first half of the year, an increase of $643,000,000 Our ROIC remained strong, coming in at 9.6% for the second quarter. That continues to meaningfully exceed our weighted average cost of capital, which continues to run south of 8%. Year over year, ROIC was down 120 basis points due in large part to the decline in revenue this year. Looking at the balance sheet and our capital structure.
Our balance sheet continues to be the strongest it's ever been. Net debt at June 30 was $10,300,000,000 which is down $1,300,000,000 year over year and down $800,000,000 quarter over quarter. Leverage at June 30 was just under 2.5x, which is flat sequentially and down zero three of a turn versus the 2019. Our current $500,000,000 share repurchase program is still on pause. As a reminder, we had purchased two fifty seven million dollars of stock on that program before we paused it in March.
Liquidity remains extremely strong. We finished the second quarter with over $3,800,000,000 in total liquidity. That's made up of ABL capacity of just over $3,600,000,000 and availability on our AR facility of $56,000,000 We also had $127,000,000 in cash. Yesterday, we announced we will redeem our $800,000,000 5.5% senior notes due 2025. Our decision to do so includes our views of continuing strength in liquidity, given our expectations of free cash flow for the year, which is reflected in our guidance.
And speaking of our guidance, I'll close with a few comments. Of course, no one knows the ultimate impact from the pandemic on 2020 or beyond. We continue to run numerous scenarios, each with varying levels of revenue expectations and related actions to arrive at adjusted EBITDA, taking into consideration the six months behind us and the visibility we have to the rest of the year. Our guidance represents what we think of as our most likely range of possibilities. And to be clear, this guidance does not contemplate a shutdown of economy like we experienced earlier in the year.
Our CapEx guidance has been refined as we balance our fleet mix in response to customer demand and continue to focus on fleet productivity and better fleet absorption. Finally and notably, our free cash flow update is a clear indicator of the strength and resiliency of our business model as we plan to generate over $2,000,000,000 in free cash flow this year, paying down debt with the vast majority of it. And with that, let's move on to your questions. Jonathan, would you please open the line?
Speaker 0
Our first question comes from the line of David Raso from Evercore ISI. Your question please.
Speaker 3
Good morning. Jess, you just mentioned the outlook, the potential ranges does not include a shutdown of the entire economy. But can you help us at least on the lower end, kind of how you're thinking about some of the key states, the Florida, Texas, even parts of Southern California? A, are you seeing any reaction negatively by customers for projects, equipment demand related to the uptick in the virus? And again, sort of what's baked into the low end of the range?
Just so we have a sense of if there's any cushion at all from the virus? Or is it just pure assuming no virus impact the rest of the year?
Speaker 1
Sure, David. This is Matt. So first, to answer your question about the states, kind of tried to cover that in the script. We're seeing all the spike up, specifically in four or five pretty large states and large for us as well. When we went back to look at the data, it's not impacting our business at this point.
So what would be closures, construction restrictions that haven't manifested similar to what happened early on in the Boston area, the New York area and the Bay Area were the most specific ones back in the beginning. So we're not seeing that. What's embedded in our guidance is more of a normal seasonal build that we would expect, although we're not going to we don't plan on backfilling the gap that was created from COVID in the beginning of the the end of the first quarter and the beginning of the second quarter. We do expect to see normal seasonal build. As far as cushion, the fourth quarter is a little bit less clear today than what we see in Q3.
We think the backlogs and the work that's ongoing in Q3 is much more predictable from our perspective. And then where we fall within that range that we gave really depends on do we get any acceleration or deceleration of the demand in Q4. And that's how we're thinking about it. None of it comprehends all five of those states doing a major shutdown, right? I don't that's not really the way we ran about it nor do we think that's going to happen.
I think that people have been pretty obvious of their intent to continue to make sure they drive the economy, and that's kind of how we're planning and how we guided.
Speaker 3
Any change in tone on at this time of year, you have some visibility into the following year with larger projects. Have you heard any tone change in those customers about 2021? Or even just a sense of where your sort of visibility to the size of book backlog is today for next year versus the same last year for 'twenty?
Speaker 1
So if you think about the macro data that everybody looks at that we look at as well, you could see that incrementally, some of the negatives got less negative. If you want to think about that as a positive momentum, whether it's backlogs of ABC contractor backlog is down about it's up to about eight months now, right? ABL ABI, rather, is not quite as bad as it was, but still doesn't denote growth. So I'd call those indicators bouncing off the bottom, but I wouldn't call them positive yet. And I think even our own customer confidence index improved sequentially, but still not to the levels of what we'd expect.
And I think it's because the lack of visibility that we talked about. It's just not there right now for people to get comfort. The experience of being better today than we were in April has given everybody some more confidence, but just not enough to predict 'twenty one yet.
Speaker 3
And last question. Obviously, just mathematically, if you get back on to the normal seasonal trend, though from a lower level that April obviously got hit, time you wouldn't improve again until April, right? Just the natural math of it, time you would still stay negative. But when we think about that normal seasonal also, please, I was going ask a CapEx question related, but do you have a comment about the seasonality?
Speaker 1
No, no, no. Please, go ahead. Sorry, didn't roll.
Speaker 3
But that's the math. I'm just curious, when we think about cash flow, and I know it's been particularly strong. But for CapEx next year, if I told you the seasonal trend is just going to continue, right, no catch up, but no dip, how should we just I know Jess isn't going to want to give a CapEx number for next year yet, just so we get some sense of the spending below replacement this year. But if you're back on a seasonal pattern, to gauge a bit the cash flow impact from CapEx changes, can you just give us at least a framework to think about if we're back on seasonal pattern?
Speaker 1
So it really depend on two issues. How this exit rate of this year comes out, right? So how do we do with the absorption of the fleet? And how much does fleet productivity improve sequentially throughout the balance of this year to give us our exit rate? And then what does the demand look like going forward?
If you thought that demand would return to 'nineteen like levels, that's what you mean by normal seasonality, then you could think about 'nineteen CapEx. I'm not sure that, that's visibility that anybody or in anybody's calculus quite yet. But if we get a vaccine, if the world starts opening up, people start traveling again, certainly, that would be a thought that we'd be looking towards, but way early for us to even get close to thinking definitively. And by the end of the year, we'll try to get there to what our guide would be. But the reality is we won't really have to make those CapEx decisions until we start building in the '1 is when we really have to start spending money.
And
Speaker 0
our next question comes from the line of Joe O'Dea from Vertical Research.
Speaker 1
Hi, good morning,
Speaker 4
First on the implied kind of back half of the year guide when we look at equipment rental revenue that was down 16% in the second quarter and the guide implies something similar in the back half of the year. So even as you go through the second quarter and you see parts of the country that were shut down and coming back online, but we don't see sequential improvement into the back half of the year on the decline rate. Can you talk about what's gotten better and maybe what softened a little bit? And then the degree to which it's just there's low visibility in Q4?
Speaker 1
Yes. I think your last comment hit out the most, Joe, is that lack of visibility in Q4. So when we think about our GAAP from a year over year perspective, we think it's going to improve slightly, and 15% versus 16% rent revenue decline in Q2. But we don't think that that's going to compress right now. If that pipeline of demand starts to increase, if work if pent up demand for some work to get done or people get through better through Q3 than we expected, then we'll accelerate that.
But when we think about the places that we just really don't see changing for the better in the back half, it would be, first and foremost, upstream. We're not counting on upstream. I don't even think the folks in that space are counting on improvement there. When we think about the one big variable that we didn't expect in a normal recession that we are seeing in this pandemic is the petro chem, right, specifically a downstream business that just nobody needs their product. So people start traveling again, that would be a pickup.
That's probably more of a 2021 event than a Q4 event. So these are the reasons why we think and then nonres will be choppy. So we think that this steady I don't want to anchor too much on the midpoint, but this steady about 15% down year over year would imply a standard seasonal build off the whole that was already created. That's the way we're thinking about
Speaker 4
Got it. And then on the replacement CapEx front, pre COVID, you were talking about roughly $1,900,000,000 and you're shrinking the fleet this year, so that goes down a little bit. But the question is the cushion to continue aging the fleet if you find yourself in sort of a protracted slow demand kind of environment. So can you talk about where you are on fleet age, where you're comfortable going, how much cushion that gives you to continue buying at this kind of pace versus navigating back to replacement?
Speaker 2
Hey, Joe, I'll start on that one. So based on what we're seeing kind of going out to the end of the year, we'll likely age the fleet somewhere between five and six months. Right? And so, we've talked a lot with with you guys and with investors about having, you know, at least a year of headroom in in our cat classes to be able to age out the fleet in, you know, down, cycles like this one and, and not have any real discernible impact on increased R and M or have any urgent need to replace. So as we even think forward into 2021, there still is some opportunity and some headwind.
If we needed to age the fleet out a little bit more, we could without any real impact.
Speaker 1
Not that we're trying to speak that into our future in any way, Jeff.
Speaker 2
Yes, no, not at all.
Speaker 4
No. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1
Thanks, Jeff.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre from Baird. Your question please.
Speaker 5
Yes, thank you for taking my question. Good morning, Matt and Jessica. Yes, I guess I'm going back to the Q1 call and I think at the time you provided some good insight on April, my recollection is that you called out fleet on rent being down 15%. And obviously, you told us that the improvement here was pretty significant. You're up 14% from that level.
And I'm trying to juxtapose that against the 4% decline in the fleet in the quarter. What I'm getting at here, I'm trying to understand is you're getting to the third quarter here. Where are you on a year over year basis in terms of fleet on rent? And what is the implication here for the fleet productivity metric?
Speaker 1
Sure. So we don't give that fleet on rent number, but you see where we're guiding to. And we talked about the 15% that we were down in Q1. Now what you're seeing is just a normal seasonal build off of that. So even though we're sequentially and did through Q1 sequentially saw improvement, you have to think about the fleet productivity is measuring that year over year gap.
And we don't talk about the individual components, but we certainly shared color that coming into the year, we thought our biggest opportunity was absorption. You can imagine that was exacerbated by COVID. So as we continue to manage the denominator of that calculation, we are expecting to see sequential improvement, but we're not expecting to see positive fleet productivity, unfortunately, until we get past these comps probably in the '1. And we'll continue to, depending on what kind of demand environment we're in, manage that inflow, right? We'll manage the denominator as well as the numerator depending on what demand says.
So that's the way we're looking at it, and that's how we're going to focus on driving higher fleet productivity.
Speaker 5
I appreciate that. And I guess my follow-up, maybe trying to get a little bit of color from your perspective in terms of how this downturn compares to some of the prior ones that you've seen. Obviously, your cost flexibility has evident, but I'm more thinking from the standpoint of competitive dynamics in the industry, the way you're seeing customers react and, frankly, maybe some opportunities that you see for the industry coming out of COVID. Sure.
Speaker 1
So this was certainly in the handful of downturns I've seen in my now in my thirtieth year in this business, this was unique. I think anybody that didn't live through the Spanish flu, right? So this is a very, very unique creation of this dislocation. And it made us move really fast. It made our customers move really fast.
So it went from almost panic when you really think about it out there to now people starting to feel a little bit better, but still very cautious. So that's how people are managing their business as well. I mean, when you see that flow through that we had in Q2, it was part of that things immediately shut down. So that gave us a bit of a cost advantage. And it was I think you saw that in a lot of Now people are starting to think about what the future brings.
Some of the things that we're learning in a post COVID environment are what end markets are going to do better. I mean, believe it or not, it's hard to see within our numbers. But even within our current fleet productivity, we actually have some asset classes that are up year over year. And it's hard to imagine, but that's about shifting to where the opportunities are, and that's always what our business model has been about. That flexibility and fungibility of our assets so that we can move them to where we need to move them to.
So that's the way we're moving. I'm sure many customers are doing the same. Customers are going to need to find different ways to drive revenue, different ways to create value for their clients, and we'll continue to do that. We also think technology and safety are both going to they were important already. I think they're going be more top of mind in our space and for our customers.
And we think that's inherent to the large players that have the scale to invest in some of these. And we'll continue to use that as a future post COVID opportunity as well.
Speaker 5
Just to clarify, are you seeing better industry discipline around both fleet and, call it, pricing?
Speaker 1
Yes. I think you'll hear it, right? So many of the OEMs reported in this week as well. I think you'll see and you already have seen what their need to do to react to our rental industry's very positive reaction of shutting off the CapEx ticket as obviously you're seeing it not just play through in NOSM report, but you're seeing it play through in the OEMs' production or lack thereof. So we think that's the right way to manage through this, and I'm very pleased with the data that we see.
The industry remains disciplined.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from the line of Rob Wertheimer from Melius Research. Your question please.
Speaker 6
Hey, good morning everybody.
Speaker 1
Hey, Rob.
Speaker 5
So your downside
Speaker 6
volatility to earnings has been less than some of the rest of the group. And I think that probably speaks more to natural variability in the cost structure than it does to any strong one off actions you took. So could you just kind of outline whether it's re rent or outside haul or what are kind of the improvements that allowed cost to flex down so abruptly? I don't think you did a bunch of big salary cuts or layoffs or closures. And then I suppose some of those things are still in reserve if the economy does get a whole lot worse.
But can you just sort of talk about that variability cost structure? Sure.
Speaker 2
Rob, it's Jeff. Yes, obviously, team did a great job in managing through the second quarter. The some of the costs that we've called out have been, a focus on reducing overtime, right, and and really focusing on the capacity that we have, in house by insourcing delivery and repair and maintenance that in part had been outsourced to third parties, right, bringing that in using our capacity and saving what's premium cost, right, in using those third party services. We've also, as Matt mentioned, the beginning of the second quarter, especially as we were all adjusting to restrictions in place, we very quickly shut discretionary costs. Right?
You saw that in the, SG and A year over year benefit that we called out this quarter, where, T and E, of course, right, that's an easy one to kind of think through as folks stop traveling immediately. But also discretionary costs that we were able to cancel or delay as a result of trying to keep only business critical needs in the cost structure.
Speaker 6
Okay. And I wonder if sometime if you ever quantify some of the outside haul and some of the other things, be a little bit interesting to see how big an impact each was, but I think there's competitive issues. Just you have a lot of cash flow going through the company right now as you reduce fleet and so forth. Can you just give us the guide points on when you might what you intend to do with that as the year progresses, if nothing really dramatically bad happens in the economy? You'll have a lot of cash to do something with.
What drives the decisions there? Thank you. I'll stop.
Speaker 2
Sure. No. Great question. Thank you. Yes.
Mean, our focus right now is to use that free cash flow to pay down debt, right? We're not out of the woods yet as far as the COVID impact, and liquidity is going to continue to be a major focus for us. So, we'll use that excess free cash flow, to pay down debt. And what happen just kind of in the normal course, right? As we do our 2021 plan and we look at the kind of cash that we expect to generate next year as well, we'll have that conversation with our Board and make a decision as to whether or not we want to use some of the excess cash to finish program, for example.
But right now, it's steady on continuing to reduce the leverage and take out the debt.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from the line of Seth Weber from RBC Capital Your question please.
Speaker 7
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 1
Hey, Seth.
Speaker 7
Hey, Jeff. I just wanted to follow-up on Rob's question. I know it's you guys always discourage kind of using the midpoint anchors the guidance for the decrementals. But just kind of going back to the cost discussion, I mean, second half decremental does guidance does suggest the decrementals are worse than or higher than what they were in the second quarter. So can we just kind of walk through a little bit more detail, like what's coming back on?
I know there's variable commissions and things like that, but is there anything else that we should be thinking about there?
Speaker 2
Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Seth. Yeah. I think the the first thing that that I would do before I get into some detail is, is that caution on the midpoint.
Right? I mean, we're really thinking about this guidance as a range of possibilities. And so probably easiest for me to frame that in terms of flow through for the back half, right, where it's where we land is really gonna depend on how the revenue sets up, first and foremost. Right? And then if you think about it from perspective, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there may be some variable costs that come back into the business as we, you know, they'll flex with the volume.
Right? So if you even just think of the seasonal trend as we work out to the October peak, you may have some we may see some additional delivery costs, right, and repositioning. Even overtime, right, where we normally will use overtime to flex for labor needs instead of bringing in full time heads. So we could see some of that come back in depending on how the volume trends. Discretionary costs, we're gonna continue to to keep a tight handle on.
But we could see a situation where if things do start to open up, we do start to have folks spending some T and E, meeting with customers, right? Some of those costs could come back into the business as well at a rate a little higher than the way we were able to pull back on them in the second quarter.
Speaker 7
Okay. But structurally, is like a 60% number the right way to think about decrementals, do you think, just in general for United?
Speaker 2
Yes. I'm skittish to give a number because, again, for us, it's extremely fluid based on the way that the, you know, the third quarter and really the fourth quarter, right, where where we have a little less visibility plays out. So I'll you do the math on what you think is the right number. How's that?
Speaker 7
Okay. And then just really quickly, just the Specialty business continues to perform really well. Could you just talk about cold starts there and how you're thinking about allocating capital to the Specialty business?
Speaker 1
Sure, Seth. We you're right. We continue to be very pleased. And even with the lower revenue, Specialty did a good job of driving even increased margins based on some of the insourcing, getting rid of third party services and really a good team effort across the board. So we'll continue to invest in those.
We've done about 10 cold starts year to date, and we plan on doing another five in the back half of the year. So we're still leaning into specialty. We'll continue to put capital in there. And our Power segment, for example, is one of the regions that actually is up year over year. So there are opportunities during COVID that we'll continue to fund.
Speaker 7
Super. Okay. Thank you very much, guys. Stay safe.
Speaker 2
Thanks, Seth. You too.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Fisher from UBS. Your question please.
Speaker 8
Thanks. Good morning. To follow-up on the cost question again. It sounds like for the most part, the efforts have really been focused on the third party services and over time and you're just saying that some of the variable costs might come back in. But let's say you wanted to look for the next area of costs to actually take out if things were to be a little bit softer in the demand side.
What are those next areas of costs that you would look to tackle? I think, Matt, you said in your prepared remarks that there haven't been any COVID layoffs yet. Is that where we would go? Would you start looking at actual kind of whole branch closures? How would you think about the hierarchy of where we go in the cost structure to take the next round out?
Speaker 1
Sure, Stephen. And this is something that we've thought about a lot and are very intentional about how we've responded so far. So let me just talk about forget about the numerical values. I think we've covered that strategically. Coming out of 'nine and having experienced that downturn and what we did and had to do and what I would want to do differently and what we'd want to do differently, we've built a strategy to make sure we didn't have to do a couple of things.
Number one, we didn't want to unnecessarily take out or damage our capacity to get ready when we got through the other side. And that so we've structurally worked towards that during this pandemic, which is why we're very pleased that we used insourcing to keep our labor force busy as opposed to layoffs. And that was very intentional in it. And you can see from the flow through that it worked. When we think about store closures, we intentionally did not want to go there.
Now if we went this into a full recession, 2009 type recession, which I don't think anybody is predicting right now, but if it happens, we have that playbook, we know what to do. But there's a couple of things that we are going to limit. We're not going to fire sale equipment. We don't need to. We have great liquidity, strong balance sheet, maturities out to, what, just 25, right?
So we don't have that anvil hanging over us. So we don't need to fire sale equipment, and we don't need to make rash decisions to make sure we make payroll, right? We don't have liquidity issues. So this balance sheet allows us to react a little bit differently. We'll still protect margin.
Think we just proved that, but we're not going to damage the business long term. But there is more flexibility to make sure we remain resilient and will utilize it.
Speaker 8
Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe on the flip side of that, I'm just curious how you think about potentially going on offense. I mean, as an industry leader, when you go through a downturn, you might expect that you should be able to gain some share. When do you think is the right time to start being more active in trying to gain some share?
And where would you look to do it? And then how would you go about it?
Speaker 1
So that's something that we talk about actively, right? There's That balance sheet can be used defensively, and it can be used offensively. And we want to make sure we've used it defensively and appropriately so, and we are turning our mind to offense. So when we think about where are these other opportunities, some could ask, well, why are you guys spending another at the midpoint, about $500,000,000 of CapEx? Because there's offensive opportunities.
There's products and end markets and verticals that we're still going to support. And that's the way we're looking at it. And as more post COVID opportunities arise, we will use that balance sheet. We'll use our scale and our leverage to make sure that we can play some offense.
Speaker 2
So if I can just add one thing. The flexibility that we have is also something that we'll lean into as opportunity presents itself, and we can lean into a recovery and into the market, right? So we'll be ready to spend when we need to based on being able to flex that model up as necessary.
Speaker 8
Great. Thank you.
Speaker 2
Thanks, Steve.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Your question please.
Speaker 9
Yes. Hi. Good morning, everyone. You folks have been on a continual journey to improve the logistics, and we're seeing some of that with in sourcing here. I'm wondering, based on your experience going through this environment, is there an opportunity to on the other side of it, to have higher fleet availability?
Could this be an opportunity through touchless pickups and all having a standard process in place, can we come out of this with higher fleet available across your business?
Speaker 1
Thanks, Gerry, for the question. Absolutely. So I had a note from a customer early on during COVID when we created this touchless system that they sent a nice, very nice note thanking us, said they had the best rental experience ever. They pulled their truck up. Everything was done digitally about ordering the equipment and confirmations.
And when they pulled up, we hooked the trailer up, had a skid steer behind it, and he went off his way. He said it was the fastest, most painless transaction he's ever had in the rental business. So there you go. Necessity is the mother of invention once again. And we'll continue to take those learnings.
And when we think about our labor headcount models, and one thing one of the ways that we did retain our labor, as we talked about earlier, was insourcing. But when we get to the flex upside in a more stable environment, not necessarily back half of this year, I don't think adding heads right now makes sense, but maybe having more heads and eliminating some of the more expensive variable costs we have like overtime, like outsourcing logistics when we meet capacity, are some of the things that we'll be investigating to make sure that we can continue to drive efficiency in our model.
Speaker 9
Okay. And then from an end market standpoint, a lot of folks, us included, are concerned about nonresin to next year for a good reason. But on the flip side, a lot of your industrial markets are really in the only early stages of recovery. Can you just talk about your fleet on rent for some of your industrial verticals? I know you're not going to want to provide a ton of specificity, but just broad range color on where we are in the restart and fleet on rent to those deployments would be helpful.
Speaker 1
Yes. So I won't give you the fleet on rent stats, but I will share with you, and as I did in my prepared remarks, the petrochem industry is really challenged. That market for us is down 35%. That's a big portion of what we've had to endure in post COVID. You could look at both sides of that.
You could look at as the world opens back up, that's one of the opportunities to get back to normal type volume. So we think that's an opportunity for us. Industrial overall, if you take that out if you take out petrochem, industrial looks a little more like construction overall, right? Not really a big deal. But when you look at data centers, power as a segment, infrastructure, there are opportunities that we can lean into.
And whether we add additional products to the mix, we've been doing or whether we just enhance some of the offerings that we already have to make sure we're being a one stop shop solution for all these end markets. That's really how we're looking going forward. And I think the industrial markets will recover at the same pace and maybe even a little faster because of the petrochem drop once we get on the other side of COVID.
Speaker 9
Okay. And Matt, in your prepared remarks, you said you're monitoring the coronavirus from here, but you haven't seen any impact so far. So is it fair to say that the fleet on rent momentum has continued into July by those comments? Because there are concerns by one of your suppliers brought up today that there was some slowdown in parts of the country in July and getting fleets back on rent because of COVID. So can you just comment on that, please?
Speaker 1
Yes. And what I referred to so we are seeing the seasonal build. But what I referred to specifically is because we went and looked, we said, wow, look at these spikes in these states that we all see all over the news. So we went and looked at those states at our volume, some of them are big states for us. And we're not seeing it.
So the data is not showing a correlation to our fleet on rent, our revenues, our activity in those states that would match a negative correlation to the infection rates. And that's really what we meant. We'll keep an eye on it. If that pivots, as always, we'll let everybody know. But we actually haven't seen that.
And I think that's a commitment to a lot of these communities that they got to keep running, right? The world's got to keep on. We'll continue to see the seasonal build, and that's what our guidance implies.
Speaker 9
And that's a comment through July just for clarification?
Speaker 1
Yes. Thank you.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Gilardi from Bank of America. Your question please.
Speaker 3
Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 1
Hey, Rob.
Speaker 3
I just had a question on specialty. I mean you had strong margin performance, 80 basis point increase, but your revenue is down 11%. And always hard to know if this is all apples to apples, it just feels like some of your competitors are posting stronger growth in what they label as our specialty rental businesses. I'm just wondering, are you seeing increased competition in any of those specialty markets, particularly in areas like climate control, parts of power gen, which have been very, very hot markets as the core general rental markets are depressed?
Speaker 1
Yes. No, we aren't seeing any competitive change And you hit on the right one. Power has been growing for us, and I'm sure others have been growing. It's part of an emergency response when you think about all the temporary, whether it's shelters, businesses, people putting tents out in their parking lots so that they can feed people outdoors, right?
There's so much opportunity for power to grow. So we've been seeing that growth as well. But I don't think we're losing share there in any way, shape or form. We're pleased with what we're doing there. As far as specialty of some of our competitors, we all different companies categorize it differently.
For us, how we look at our specialty business, it's products that have more of a unique, fully embedded engineered solution, so to speak, right? So it's not just dropping off a generator. It's cabling. It's putting step down transformers. It's making sure we're creating a solution.
And that's how we look at our specialty. And I won't comment on others. It's just I understand there are some products that are in other specialties that are not in ours. So we're not seeing any change in the competitive dynamic there.
Speaker 3
So then, Matt, can you just talk a little bit more about why your revenue is down 11% then? And I suspect some of it's in the Fluid Solutions business. I'd be curious what kind of growth you're seeing ex Fluid Solutions? Was Trench up this quarter? Or did it behave more like a gen rent type business, at least in terms of demand trajectory?
Sure.
Speaker 1
We don't usually get down to breaking all those segments down, but you're hitting on the head here, right? Think about pumps and tanks and how much in the petrochem space we're penetrated with those products and work even with the Baker acquisition, right? So they're certainly faring worse, more in line with how our gen rent areas are faring in those marketplaces. So that would be a drag on the overall specialty growth. Trends are slightly better than the average, but not at a positive.
We're calling out power because power is unique. I don't think people would think that any business unit would be positive. So Power, our reliable on-site business, although small, is seeing positives as well. But I think you hit our head that Fluid certainly is having challenges as we're going through COVID here. And that's a big part of what's driving the negative growth.
Speaker 4
Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 1
Thanks, Rob.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Courtney Yakavonis from Morgan Stanley. Your question, please.
Speaker 10
Hi, good morning guys.
Speaker 1
Hey, Just
Speaker 10
curious, you guys have kind of during the upturn, talked a lot about the outsourcing that you did and that was kind of pressuring margins. Can you just quantify maybe how much of your repair and maintenance was outsourced and kind of help us understand how much the opportunity is and kind of at what point would you have to start outsourcing again as sales do recover? And then maybe just same quantification on the overtime. How much overtime had you added over the past couple of years? And when would we expect to see that increase?
Speaker 1
So I don't have the numbers handy for the past couple of years. But when you think about what Jess was speaking earlier about what's inferred in the flow through of the midpoint of our second half guidance, you'll see some of the costs you'll see the magnitude of some of what will start creeping in with whether it's overtime, which we're leaning more towards overtime. We want to keep our people busy first, and that's been a big part of our COVID response. And then maybe some logistics and third party. As far as third party repairs, we're not expecting a lot of that.
Some of that was for stuff that was really beat up out in the oilfield last year, stuff that needed major repairs, and we were already utilizing our capacity, so we outsourced it. And that is always an opportunity, an area to flex. But I think in this one of the post COVID learnings, as I talked about earlier, is maybe we will insource more going forward in a more stable environment. So I don't have the numbers for you on what that historical trend is, but it's certainly an opportunity for us going forward.
Speaker 10
Okay. Got you. And then I think last quarter, you had talked about $1,500,000,000 in OEC on rent that had come offline. It sounds like there's been a seasonal build of about $1,000,000,000 so about $500,000,000 that's still kind of that hole you were talking about. And you've also been kind of characterizing it as a very typical seasonal build that's been happening off of that hole.
So can you just help us understand is that hold all petrochem and the retail and hospitality and special events and those projects just never came back online? Or is it just this seasonal build that you are seeing those projects come back online and it's typical but just off a lower base? Just trying to understand what if there have been projects that have just kind of been permanently delayed that you just aren't seeing come back, carrying that with
Speaker 1
the comments about the seasonal build. Yes. You hit on the main point at the end of your statement there about the lower base, right? So it's really just off a lower base. But unlike what we've talked about for the past few years, we are seeing project delays and cancellations, but more delays.
For us, right now, with the lack of visibility, we're just counting on the delays as they're not there until they come back. And it's very spotty. Just think about the major airports. Last year, were traveling around back when we were traveling. You saw work at just about every major airport that you flew into.
About half of those are continuing on and then half are paused or delayed. And when those and what would create those coming back is something that will be part of the recovery, but we don't have the visibility for that right now. And it's really not even by geography, right here in the New York Metropolitan Area. You have LaGuardia that's going full steam ahead, yet JFK that's slowed down and delayed many phases of that project. So we see this as future opportunity.
But the difference between now and what we've talked about for the past twelve quarters is we are seeing project delays. We do believe we'll continue to have a seasonal build off this lower base. But those would all have to come back online for us to raise that base and to start to fill that gap.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from the line of Steven Ramsey from Thompson Research. Your question please.
Speaker 11
Hey everyone. To dig a little deeper on delays versus cancellation, are the delays happening more on the side of projects that are going to go slower going forward? Or is it projects that you expected to start are now being pushed out? And then on the cancellations, even though you're not seeing many of them, is there a trend in what types of projects are being canceled?
Speaker 1
Yes. So as far as the cancellations and just to clarify, there's not as many cancellations or they are delays. But in our mind, with the uncertainty going on right now, we're going to treat them fairly similar because the cancellation could be brought back up as well. So just think about the industries that have been most challenged through COVID. Certainly, anything petrochem related has been delayed, whatever term you want to use, travel, right?
It's just it's two different thoughts. There are some airports that are saying, we don't have a lot of activity right now, let's lean in. And there are others that are delaying. I would imagine it has to do with their funding and their confidence going forward on how much volume they'll do in those locations. When you think about entertainment, stadiums, those types of jobs, as you can imagine, a little bit of uncertainty of what the future is going look like.
So some of those are being shelved. So and then certainly, anything in hospitality, right, travel and hospitality, we're seeing a lot of it. So just think about the industries that are more uncertain than others. And then you're seeing other things, even power builds I talked about earlier. Power segment is growing for us, whether it's standard power or alternative power.
When you think about data centers, those are growing. That's a growing opportunity. And then those of you that live here in the Northeast, as I travel around the Northeast here by car, I'm seeing roadwork everywhere. So we expect infrastructure to continue to gain momentum. It's one of the values of less traffic is people can get this work done more efficiently.
So those are some of the puts and takes that we're seeing and that really inform how we view the balance of this year.
Speaker 11
Great. And then just would be curious to hear your perspective on how a secular shift to rental generally accelerates during challenged markets. Does the secular shift that potentially comes from this current downturn, does it look different? Does it look better with your greater specialty equipment asset base?
Speaker 1
Thanks. Absolutely. I think really for the industry, broad based offering of which we're leading and penetration overall, during all the downturns in my career, people that had to turn to rental when they previously weren't looking at it as their number one priority in channel, very rarely, almost never go away, right? Once they get to it, they realize they can rely on us, that the product will be there and they'll have the right equipment at the right time. So we do expect secular penetration on the other side of this.
And I think it will be broader, to your point, because we have a broader offering. So I think it will be across the board specialty, new products and gen rent that people weren't renting before. I think it will be a good thing for the industry overall.
Speaker 0
Thank you. And this does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Mr. Flannery for any further remarks.
Speaker 1
Thanks, operator. Appreciate the conversation today. This is certainly turning out to be an interesting year, to say the least. And as always, we'll keep you updated as things evolve. In the meantime, our Q2 investor deck is available online.
And as always, Ted is available to answer your questions. With that, please, everyone, safe. And operator, you can now end the call.
Speaker 0
Thank you. And thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.