Village Farms International - Earnings Call - Q1 2018
May 15, 2018
Transcript
Speaker 0
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Village Farms International's First Quarter twenty eighteen Financial Results Conference Call. Yesterday, Village Farms issued a news release reporting its financial results for the first quarter ended March 3138. That news release, along with the company's financial statements, are available on SEDAR and on the company's website at villagefarms.com under the Investors heading. Please note that today's call is being broadcast live over the Internet and will be archived for replay both by the telephone and via the Internet beginning approximately one hour following completion of the call.
Details of how to access the replays are available in yesterday's news release. Before we begin, let me remind you that forward looking statements may be made today during or after the formal part of this conference call. Certain material assumptions were applied in providing these statements, many of which are beyond our control. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in forward looking statements. A summary of these underlying assumptions, risks and uncertainties is contained in our various security filings, including Village Farms' current annual information form for the year ended December 3137, and MD and A for the quarter ended March 3138, as well as the press release issued by Village Farms and Emerald Health Therapeutics announcing their joint venture in June 2017, all of which are available on SEDAR.
These forward looking statements are made as of today's date and except as required by applicable security laws. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any such statements. I would now like to turn the call over to Michael DiGiulio, Chief Executive Officer of Village Farms International. Please go ahead.
Speaker 1
Thank you, Denise, and thank you to everyone for joining us by telephone and Internet today. With me for today's call is Village Farms' Chief Financial Officer, Stephen Ruffini. In terms of the agenda for today's call, I'll be somewhat brief, but I'll begin with an update on the significant progress at Pure Sunfarms, our joint venture for large scale, high quality, low cost cannabis production in Canada. Steve will then do a brief review of first quarter financial results. And I'll return for some concluding comments before Steve and I take your questions.
Beginning with Pure Sunfarms, it's only been a little more than one month since our last quarterly call, but there is nonetheless a great deal of additional progress across the business to report on. Just this past Friday, Pure Sunfarms received an amendment to the cultivation license for the Delta 3 greenhouse for an additional 110,000 square feet, which now permits it to begin commercial scale growing on a total of 130,000 square feet. And we're anticipating approval for the balance of the 250,000 square feet of the first quadrant of the 1,100,000 square feet within the next month. We are planning out this first section this week and are targeting the entire first quadrant of 250,000 square feet to be fully planted out by the July, pending one final amendment to the cultivation license. In another milestone on schedule, and we're very excited to start our production ramp up at Delta three, this milestone is very important for the company, and we expect to begin planning out the second 250,000 square foot quadrant in August.
Such that, we anticipate having 500,000 square feet in commercial production in September and remain on track to have the entire 1,100,000 square feet of production by year end. As I've discussed previously, the senior growing financial human resources and operational personnel, including the established team transferred from Village Farms as well as additional management hires we've recently made are all in place at the Delta 3 Greenhouse and the search for the Pure Sunfarms CEO is underway. On our last call, we announced our intention to accelerate the production ramp up of Delta 3 pending the availability of requisite generating equipment to rent through the coming winter to power supplemental lighting during the shorter days of the year. As a reminder, we have secured 24 megawatts of power from the local utility for supplemental lighting, and we have approximately six megawatts now with the balance to be available mid next year. As a reminder, we have also secured an additional 24 megawatts should the option on Delta two will be exercised.
I'm now pleased to report that we have finalized a rental contract for all the generation generators required. This will enable Pure Sunfarms to increase production through the twenty eighteen-twenty nineteen winter months, such that we are now projecting production of approximately 7,000 to 8,000 kilograms in 2018 and forty six thousand to 52,000 kilograms in 2019. That is a total of approximately 53,000 to 60,000 kilograms through the 2019 on this existing single facility. I will note that the 2018 projection assumes recreational market legalization on or before September 1. The generators will be in place in August.
Conversion of the remaining 1,100,000 square feet of the Delta three greenhouse is progressing steadily and remains on track to be fully operational by the year by the end of this year, and we continue to expect to achieve our conservative full production target of 75,000 kilograms annually in 2020. With production ramp up firmly on track and the legalization of recreation to use cannabis in Canada around the corner, a top priority for Pure Sunfarms team is now the sales and distribution of our near term output. Two weeks ago, we finalized the first supply agreement with our Pure Sunfarms partner, under which it will purchase 40% of the Pure Sunfarms reduction cumulatively in 2018 through the 2019. That's expected to be 21,000 to 24,000 kilograms using current production targets. I will note that this agreement is for a predetermined price per gram, which we are not disclosing for competitive reasons.
The first supply agreement provides a strong initial revenue stream while allowing Pure Sunfarms the flexibility to pursue opportunities with provincial governments as well as address the significant near term demand that we are seeing from other licensed producers. We are in ongoing discussions with all the above as we speak. Immediately upon Health Canada's issuance of the cultivation license for the Delta 3 facility, Pure Sunfarms initiated the sales license process. Last quarter, I reported that the two test cycles required by Health Canada for our sales license were underway, which I will note were being conducted concurrently. Last week, Pure Sunfarms successfully completed its first harvest from these cycles, and we couldn't be more pleased with the results.
A portion of this first harvest is being submitted for testing on the Health Canada sales licensing process. Before I turn the call over to Steve, let me touch briefly on the incumbent produce business. The first quarter sales were US29.5 million dollars down 6% over year over year on lower yields in Texas Mexican ponds and actually slightly lower yields in our Delta, BC operations as we have not fully replaced the capacity losses resulted Delta 3 facility being transferred to Pure Sunfarms' cannabis production. This capacity will be fully replaced by the fall of this year with lower volumes. All of our production was committed to contracted price retail customers, and we weren't able to take advantage of a very solid spot market pricing in the first quarter.
Our contract prices are very good prices with our retailers on an average annual basis. However, where we retain higher pricing in the summer months, those prices are lower than usually what the spot market is. Our EBITDA of 1,800,000.0 was down 34%. This was partially driven by a 25% increase in pound for pound freight cost due to the new U. S.
Regulations that required freight companies to install electronic logging devices. If you looked at the news in January, February and March, every industry in The United States was affected severely by that. We are now working it down to single digits and getting more efficient every day to where we believe we can return almost to where our freight costs were, although we're projecting higher freight costs going forward. Again, this is a regulatory requirement that has impacted multiple industries. So going forward, this is being it was also partially as far as EBITDA goes, it was also partially by the considerable work that Village Farms personnel across the organization continue to do the Advanced Pure Sunfarms business.
I can tell you that I spent nearly 90% of my time on that business in the last quarter, Steve has and many of our folks here. And now as we ramp up management, that will be changing going forward. I'd like to turn the call over to Steve to walk through our financial results in detail. Steve? Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 2
Welcome everybody to the call. As Mike said in our press release said, our sales were down 6% year on year. As Mike also mentioned, that was due to lower volumes. We also reported a lower net price year on year of 4%. Again, this is directly due to what Mike's already mentioned, higher freight costs.
So we report and analyze our sales always on a net basis. Actually, our gross selling price year on year was up zero three dollars a pound, but that was more than negated by the incremental freight costs to get it to our customers. And as Mike mentioned, it was a nationwide impact. Those in Canada, you may not be aware that Department of Transportation in The U. S.
Implemented electronic logs into all trucks. So they now monitor truck drivers who are not allowed to drive more than ten hours. If they drive more than ten hours, there is a fine. So needless to say when that went into effect on January 1, it wreaked a bit of havoc in The U. S.
Trucking system. As Mike mentioned, it's since calmed down. We are forecasting for the year a $02 to $03 per pound increase in freight cost. And again, that whether shipping TVs or whether you're shipping from distribution center to the Walmart store, everyone's incurring that incremental cost unfortunately. Our cost of goods were down 5%.
Again, was due to lower volumes year on year as well as our own facilities. Our SG and A was up 5% or $174,000 due to various costs that for the most part are due to our new cannabis initiatives such as full scale IR, which we haven't had in the past, miscellaneous consultation and legal costs involved with that new business on the part of Village Farms. Our interest expense was down in Q1, even as interest rates rise due to our ongoing principal payments as well as the $4,000,000 principal payment we made in December to Farm Credit of Canada to unencumbered the DUC2 greenhouse. In the instance, Pearson Farms exercised its call option to convert that greenhouse. Our long term debt at threethirty oneeighteen was $38,500,000 As a comparison a year ago on March 3137, that number was $44,700,000 So we continue to pay down our debt and that continues to be a focus of management.
As Mike mentioned, our EBITDA was US1.1 million dollars CAD2.3 million, so down a little over $900,000 $309,000 was due to freight. The JV loss, which obviously we didn't have in 2017, was $237,000 higher SG and A of 174,000 and a very slight decrease in our product gross margin due to our lower yields in our Texas assets. Our bio asset on March 31 was in line with our prior year. For those that's a leading indicator that tells the reader that as of April 30, which is essentially our measurement date for our bio asset, we have not had any negative impact on the loss of the Delta three assets. So our margins on our Canadian assets, Delta one and Delta two are in line even without the Delta three assets this year versus last year.
So that's a function of growing the right varieties for the right customers at the right price. And with that, I'll turn it over to Mike.
Speaker 1
Thanks, Steve. And I'll just comment off the cuff. I mean, are moving forward. We can see the bogey of cash flow on the Pure Sunfarms investment out on the horizon getting closer and closer. So taking a lot of the resources from Village Farms to ramp up that partnership and that whole venture is going well.
As you know, we haven't hired anyone in Village Farms. We're managing our GSNA across the board. So having some quarters that are off, again, of the loss was tied to freight and the investment of time and Pure Sunfarms, but that will be changing going forward. We are profitable and we have no burn rate and we're pulling this off with internal resources. So I think it's a credit to the organization.
We previously described the Canadian cannabis opportunity as a transformational move for Village Farms, an opportunity to leverage our established large scale, low cost operations and deep experience as a vertically integrated agricultural producer to a significantly more profitable product, that transformational opportunity is quickly becoming a reality. In just eleven months, we have taken Pure Sunfarms from a joint venture agreement and a plan to a commercial scale cannabis producer. Pure Sunfarms is on track to be one of the largest cannabis growing operation in Canada and a vertically integrated supplier. We have successfully executed on every milestone, and we are now poised to begin to realize the financial return from this investment. We're also excited about the coming months with the significant anticipated demand for cannabis product in the coming months as the Canadian market approaches legalized recreational use, the ability to both ramp up scale and operate efficiently will be critical.
We know that it won't be without challenges. It's large scale agriculture. The main asset is a biological entity. It's always challenging. But as I said last quarter, there is no group in the country with more experience and expertise, including master growers and well established labor force.
And ramping up and operating a large scale growing operation and Village Farms team that's now in place at Pure Sunfarms greenhouse, I am very confident that the advantages of our two decades of operating history at the Delta facility will be proven out in the months and years to come. We remain confident and are committed to our goal of a cost of production of $1 or less per gram. As I've noted in the past, every agriculture product eventually commoditizes out and increasingly it appears that in the Canadian cannabis market that may happen sooner than later. It goes without saying that to build a successful brand and reputation, you must have superior quality and a completely safe product or you're not even in business. But from day one, we have also built Pure Sunfarms to be a low cost, all in cost producer from the use of existing greenhouse facilities to a conversion optimized for efficiency to an established operations team that has lived and breathed low cost agriculture production on that site for nearly two decades.
In fact, based on our extensive experience in agricultural markets, our initial decision entered Canadian cannabis market was predicated on being able to achieve superior profitability in a well commoditized environment. I think Warren Buffett would improve. Pure Sunfarms' mission is to set the standard for repeatedly delivering expected quantities and consistent quality with full regulatory compliance to our customers. We also recognize the value of Pure Sunfarms being a vertically integrated cannabis business. And again, building on the decades of experience Village Farms has as an integrated supplier to the largest grocery chains in North America in cannabis product development.
And soon Pure Sunfarms will add an extremely soft executive team with the additional industry and leadership expertise to drive Pure Sunfarms product development, branding and distribution strategies to fully capitalize on this opportunity. As a reminder, Pure Sunfarms has options on two additional greenhouse facilities, the 1,100,000 square foot Delta 2 and the 2,600,000 square foot Delta 1 facilities immediately adjacent to Delta 3. The receipt of the cultivation license for Delta 3 in March enables Pure Sunfarms at any time to exercise the option on either of those properties. The addition of Delta 2 would double Pure Sunfarms annual output production to a conservative 150,000 kilograms annually in 2020, and the addition of Delta one would double that again at 300,000 kilograms annually. The combined facility would be by far the largest single site cannabis production operation in existence and benefit from the unique economies of scale that such a massive operation would yield.
The Board of Pure Sunfarms continue to regularly evaluate the decision to exercise these options. Additionally, we are becoming much more confident each month on the future of cannabis in The USA and other countries, but especially The USA where we have nearly 6,000,000 square feet of assets. After spending more and more time exploring these future options, we see great potential for our company going in that direction. And again, I'll remind everyone that we will not activate any plans in The USA until it's federally legal. That said, we are investigating significant time each month and increasing.
And as a reminder, Village Farms has no partnership agreements with anyone in pursuing anything in The U. S. Or any other opportunities outside of Canada. So thank you for that. And with that, Steve and I are available for any questions.
Operator?
Speaker 0
Your first question comes from Andrew Simpel with Equine Wealth Partners. Your line is open.
Speaker 3
Hi there. Good morning.
Speaker 4
Good morning. Good morning, Russell.
Speaker 3
First question was just more on the sales channels. You're speaking to both looking at both provincial and other licensed producers. Where do you see more opportunity? And which channel would you prefer to sell to? And then finally, there be any sort of preliminary guidance as a split between the two that you could provide at this point?
Speaker 2
Russell, the strategy for Pure Sunfarms at this stage without an executive in place essentially is to flip flop what Village Farms does today. So Village Farms today sells roughly 75% to 80% of all its produce direct. In this case, means a retailer. We don't thankfully we don't sell provincial produce ports. But at any rate, at the onset, obviously, it's going the rollout schedule is going to be a challenge for the provincial boards that have to implement the federal law.
So we are in discussions with LPs because we'd like to essentially flip that. So we'd like to sell 75% of the product, let's call it to LPs, some on a contract, some at spot. We believe the spot pricing will be higher than the contract price and roughly 25% at the onset. So call it late twenty eighteen, early twenty nineteen to provincial government. And then over the course of the eighteen months, as we get the full ramp up stage, get to the other way by the sometime in early twenty twenty, 75% to provincial governments, 25% to other LPs.
Even today after thirty years Village Farms does sell product and byproduct from other growers in The U. S. Because the biggest challenge in the ag space is matching demand and supply. Cannabis will be a little bit easier since that you can store the product. But ultimately you can get imbalances.
You have people ordering when you have product or maybe people are ordering when you don't have product, in which case it's helpful to have strategic partners with other in this instance LPs that you can help one another to keep the provincial buyers happy.
Speaker 3
Great. That's great color there. Just another question. Just for clarification, is the Delta two facility fully unencumbered as of now? And what about Delta one?
Speaker 1
Delta Two is fully unencumbered. Just to remind you that we paid off the debt on Delta Two last December, so it's fully unencumbered. And there is remaining Delta One still is in the collateral pool with Farm Credit Canada at this point.
Speaker 3
Okay. And what sort of conditions would you look for in the market before you would consider exercising the option at the joint venture level? I'm sure there would need to be an executive in place as well. But can you comment on the market conditions that would make exercise of the option accretive?
Speaker 1
Well, I think the executive in place was always we always looked at that from day one, but we the way we operate, I guess, we take a more prudent approach. So we wanted to make sure that the joint venture, which is almost a year old next month, was continuing strong, that we were hitting on our milestones that we would receive our cultivation license. And now the construction, the systems have all been evaluated, all those decisions were the right decisions. So the confidence level of the company has raised tremendously that we can execute going forward. And an option to increase capacity is not based on the executive coming in because if we trigger an option now, that conversion would probably start at the end of a current cycle of one of the current crops we have, so maybe year end.
And the focus of our executive team really going to be downstream initially. There's enough talent on-site there for the operational side and the conversion side. So that said, I think the market side, it's just too premature to understand where it's going to go. Our decision on a conversion would not be based that great on understanding where the market is going to go because the issue is the execution of all the other LPs. Will they in fact be able to execute on their currently being built, converted or funded capacity and how long will that take.
And we have confidence we could have very quick speed to market on additional conversion. So I think there's just too many unknowns on the market. So we would that would not be a huge part of the evaluation at this point going forward, at least for the next conversion, maybe the third one it would be.
Speaker 3
All right. Thank you very much. You're welcome.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from Vahan Ajaem with Beacon Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker 4
Hi, good morning. A couple of questions. First off, I know you haven't disclosed the price that Emerald will be paying the joint venture. But is it safe to assume that it's at the prices that the wholesale prices prevailing in the market right now?
Speaker 1
Yes, I think that's safe to assume because we're an arm's length transaction. So we negotiated that on behalf of Pure Sunfarms as Village Farms to keep it arm's length. So we felt comfortable at this point with that. And based on the percentage that we allocated, even though they're our partner, we've treated in a very professional manner. So that's safe to assume.
And is it
Speaker 4
a constant price over the, I guess, one years? Point Or is it
Speaker 1
It's up or a constant price. But if you look at it from this point for the 7,000 to 8,000 kilograms that really are going to come into production at the end of this year, so it's through the 2019. So basically, on any significant capacity, it's really for 2019, and it's a fixed price.
Speaker 4
All right. Okay. And you gave some good color on the potential other offtake agreements for the next two years. I guess, the 60% that have still to allocate. Any sense of quantifying how many seriously interested parties you have or how many end customers you'd like to have at the end of the day for the next couple of years from a customer diversification point of view?
Speaker 1
Well, Bon, I can tell you there's no shortage of phone calls or meetings with other LPs, no shortage of that. So I think one of the things that's important is we know in thirty years of operating on the produce side that where we've made certain very strong relationships years ago with other competitors, other growers that those relationships have been accretive in many different ways over the years. So I think what we're looking for are companies that, one, we can trust that, two, will be here in the future, especially when you look at the future, the M and A environment. Those agreements, we may not want agreements to withstand an M and A an acquisition, for example. Where their location is, is very important for us.
If they have an advantage in a certain area where being a local producer gives them a certain advantage over someone else that we think can yield them a slight premium in the marketplace, thus giving us a better pricing, that will come into play. So it's not just looking for the first guy out there who wants to buy capacity. They have to be willing to take or pay. We're not going to even if a province is going to not necessarily secure or do a consignment type of promotion, we're in that if we make an arrangement because there's plenty of other opportunity. So I think we're evaluating that right now, but there's no shortage of LPs out there that would like to work with us.
As Steve articulated, clearly, Bud and being in BC and one of the predominant growers in BC, we're very interested in working in that region specifically. So I think that's our first foray with the government is on the West Coast and then working with some LPs across the board.
Speaker 4
In terms of number of customers, I guess, has already taken 40%. Is it safe to say you want select handful say, less than a handful of overall customers then you can kind of grow with as an accretive partnership in the future? Is that the right way to visualize it?
Speaker 2
Yes. I would think
Speaker 1
a handful is good. But at this point, it's not all based on the price only, but that is a big part of it, that and the relationship. But to manage it effectively and be able to we don't we can't deliver, and we don't want them to make commitments they can't deliver on. So managing a handful would be prudent, and we probably wouldn't look at any type of arrangements going beyond the 2019 because I think there's going to be once we see what the governments do, those contracts that they issue to LPs who they may only be six months in length or a year at most.
Speaker 4
Okay. And then back to the Emerald, I guess, offtake agreement, that's only for dry flower. Is that correct? Or is there extracts going to contemplate in that offtake agreement?
Speaker 1
It's only for dried flower, and Pure Sunfarms will be doing its own extraction very soon. So as it's first step, I mean, we look at extraction to oil as really more of a post harvest process that you have to do and have to have before you actually get to downstream products. So the agreement is only for pure flower, but what they do with it in their product line is up to them, but we will be extracting at Pure Sunfarms in 2019.
Speaker 4
And I know there was some discussion about your extraction strategy, how to best do it, what type of equipment to get. Any has that been ironed out yet? Or you're
Speaker 3
still kind
Speaker 4
of Well, looking we're into
Speaker 1
working on a lot of different strategies. I don't probably want to articulate that because I think the extraction process is a proprietary strategy and should be for many different companies. It's still a nascent industry in the conversion, and we're talking to multiple companies. And actually, I think we have some exciting things down the road that we can be looking at. So I'll limit it to that behind.
Speaker 4
Okay. And finally, on branding, I think when we spoke last month on the call, you mentioned that the rules still weren't out yet in BC and you're kind of waiting for that to decide if developing your own brand would be a worthwhile investment or not. And I think we've seen some of the preliminary rollout of out of British Columbia. Is that any update on that you can share?
Speaker 1
Well, we're always going to be as we said, we're Sunfarms will be a vertically integrated producer and it will compete with anyone in the market. So branding is going to be a big part of what we do, even if it's just a name to start with. But I think it's going to take years to develop a brand. I mean, it's taken our experience, if it takes years and years, especially when you're dealing with the product that's coming from a biological asset as opposed to a processed product. And we hear people talking about we're going to build iconic brands out of the box.
And you don't build iconic brands in a year or two. I just don't see that. I mean, it's almost comical to me how companies talk. But I can tell you at the end of the day, if you listen to Warren Buffett on his very recent shareholder speech, he talked about the companies he looks for have very strong brands, but are the low cost producers. That's always been our strategy from day one, is fundamentally make sure that our cost of production is low, so we can be the survivor or a survivor in the marketplace and then build the brand on it.
And we've spent the last eleven months in this ramp up focused on systems in order to make us a low cost producer with high quality and now bringing in the team that will do product development and ultimately branding because I think putting a brand on just a strain of cannabis where everyone says they have the best strains is going to be very difficult to differentiate yourself in the marketplace. I think it's going to come through product development and differentiation of products for the adult use market. And that doesn't happen overnight, but it's clearly the strategy that we will pursue. But again, short term, we're not here blowing millions of dollars out of the gate. As Steve articulated, our strategy is to start working with LPs, keeping our costs down as we develop product and develop branding strategies, generate positive cash flow and reinvest that cash flow and further expansion.
So that is sort of short term horizon that we're looking at. It's
Speaker 4
great color. Thanks.
Speaker 1
Thank you.
Speaker 0
There are no further questions queued up at this time. I'll turn the call back over to the presenters. Sorry, no. There's no more questions, sorry.
Speaker 1
Okay. Well, thank you, everyone, for listening. Appreciate it, and we look forward to our next call shortly in a couple of months. Have a good day.
Speaker 0
This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.