Essential Utilities - Q1 2024
May 3, 2024
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Hello, and welcome to the Essential Utilities Q1 2024 earnings call. My name is George. I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note, this conference is being recorded, and for the duration of the call, you guys will be in listen-only mode. However, you will have the opportunity to ask questions towards the end of the presentation, and this can be done by pressing star one on your telephone keypad to register your question. If you require assistance at any point, please press star zero, and you'll be connected to an operator. I'd like to hand it over to your host today, Mr. Brian Dingerdissen, to begin today's conference. Please go ahead, sir.
Brian Dingerdissen (Head of Investor Relations)
Thanks. Thanks, George. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter of 2024 earnings call. If you did not receive a copy of the press release, you can find it by visiting the Investor Relations section of our website, and the slides that we will be referencing, a webcast of this event can also be found there. As a reminder, some of the matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that involve risk, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Please refer to our most recent 10-Q, 10-K, and other SEC filings for a description of such risk and uncertainties. During the course of this call, reference may be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Reconciliation of any non-GAAP to GAAP financial measures is posted on the website. We'll begin the call with Chris, our Chairman and CEO, who will provide an update on the company. Mike Huwar, the President of our gas business, will then provide an update on the gas business, and then Dan Schuller, our CFO, provide an overview of the financial results before Chris closes the call and opens the call up for questions. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris Franklin.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Okay, thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. Let's begin with some highlights from the quarter so far. First, Dan's going to discuss in a lot more detail our financials, but we posted GAAP earnings of $0.90-$0.97 per share, which includes the significant gain on sale from the energy projects, which closed in January. Now, the start of the year has been unusually warm, underscoring our real need for weather normalization at our gas utility. Operationally, this was another very strong quarter for both gas and water, and we continue to achieve industry-leading operational metrics in both gas and water. You'll hear more about the gas division from Mike Huwar in just a few moments. Now, related to our acquisition program, we have seen real progress on the C Motion, which was introduced by Chairman DeFrank.
We understand that more than 30 people have contributed to the process of the C Motion comment period, and we expect the PUC to vote on the motion relatively soon. We will continue to monitor the progress here, and we hope the process is completed soon here in Pennsylvania. Now, as you probably saw, the EPA published the first-ever limits on PFAS last month. These were largely in line with what we were expecting, and I'll get into some detail in a moment, including our CapEx spending and PFAS on PFAS. Now, speaking of CapEx, our significant infrastructure investment program continues to upgrade our pipes and plants, which enhance our ability to deliver on our mission of providing reliable water and natural gas service to customers.
Through March 31, we have invested approximately $253 million, and as a reminder, we expect to invest between $1.3 billion and $1.4 billion this year, which will be a record capital spend for us, by the way. You've heard me say that many times, and I can't tell you how proud I am of the company's leadership and what they have accomplished in terms of our work to improve customer reliability. Now, as part of our continued focus on operational excellence in 2024, I thought you might enjoy hearing from Mike Huwar, our President of our Natural Gas Division. Later in the year, you'll hear from Colleen Arnold, who runs our water business.
But we are, we're leading, we have lead, some leading efforts going on in our natural gas business, and I think you'll find it interesting. Now, finally, on this slide, it's been a busy week for the company. On Wednesday, we held our annual meeting of shareholders, which went well, and all agenda items received over 90% of shareholder support. Notably, I'm pleased to report that Tamara Linde and Christopher Brunner have been elected to the board. If you take a look at the next slide, I think you'll agree that they'll be great additions to the Essential board. Over the last 10 years, we've really focused on corporate governance, and as a result, I think we have one of the most, what most would consider, best-in-class corporate governance guidelines, and I believe we're really a leader in that part of our business.
For example, our corporate governance includes tenure limitations and retirement ages. In fact, Ellen Ruff, our longest-tenured board member, and she was a former Duke executive, and Lee Stewart, our longtime audit committee chair, reached retirement age over the past year and formally retired from the board this week. Now, through a formal board succession search process, we identified Tammy and Chris, who I believe will fit seamlessly into what is already a very strong board. Tammy is someone you may already be familiar with as a longtime industry executive, general counsel at PSEG in New Jersey. She brings a great utility, legal, and regulatory mind to our board. Chris is a retiring audit partner at EY, and he previously served as the head of the Philadelphia office of EY, and he brings a depth of knowledge and experience participating in audit committees and board discussions.
Chris will retire from EY at year-end and has passed the independence tests of the New York Stock Exchange and the SEC, and of course, declared independent by our board. We welcome Tammy and Chris to the board and look forward to their service. I'll just mention one other thing. We disclosed through an 8-K this morning that the board has offered me, and I've accepted, a new three-year contract that will commence on July 1st of this year and go through mid-2027. That will be my fourth three-year contract since I've been CEO. Now, moving to slide seven, I want to spend a little bit more time on PFAS, given the final EPA rule that was published last month.
As we've been discussing for more than 5 years, Essential has been an industry leader in setting company-wide standards for PFAS, in publicly disclosing all of our sample results where we find PFAS, and certainly in creating innovative solutions to address the PFAS issue. As a result, we are well-positioned to comply with the EPA limits that were just set. Unlike many other utilities in the country, we have tested all of our water sources, identified the sources that need treatment, and we've been implementing mitigation solutions now for years. In fact, Aqua has installed 9 treatment systems to date and mitigated another 10 sites by optimizing the use of supplies and removing wells from service. For 2024, we estimate that more than 10 systems will go online by year-end.
By using our modular design tailored to small systems, we anticipate ramping up our capability to mitigate as many as 100 systems in a single year. Just last month, we held the groundbreaking for a site in New Jersey. The final rule that came out was largely in line with our expectations, so no surprises there. Without getting into too much detail, one of the most significant changes we saw was that the period of compliance was changed to 5 years. You may remember that previously, we were all thinking that the compliance period was gonna be a 3-year period. We think this was a very prudent approach and may be able to ease some of that potential pressure on the supply chain, so many of us utilities rush in to implement our mitigation solutions.
Recently, we named one of our internal experts to a newly created role, solely focused on the rollout of the treatment technology. One of his primary charges is to standardize our approach and minimize design and construction costs. Joe is leading this work from headquarters to ensure that our standard is adopted across all of our subsidiaries, no matter what state, and all impacted operations. We're seeing the benefits of this structure already. Our work to mitigate PFAS, the PFAS-related costs to our customers, also continues as we pursue lawsuits against the manufacturers and apply for state and federal loans and grants. We're going to stay focused on keeping costs down for our customers.
Now, while our costs may change as we move through the process, we currently estimate that we'll spend at least $450 million to complete this PFAS mitigation. I'll leave you with one final thought on this topic. We were a pioneer on our PFAS commitment 5 years ago. We have a plan. We expect to remain a leader in this area, and we also see opportunities to help other utilities with their PFAS mitigation plans, which obviously could help some of our corporate development work. Next, it's really my pleasure to introduce the President of our Natural Gas Division, Mike Huwar. Mike has over 38 years of industry experience and joined us from NiSource back in 2020 when we completed the transaction with Peoples.
He's been a tremendous addition to the team, and I've asked Mike to join us today and provide some details on our natural gas utility that he leads. And by the way, just to give you a sense of size, we provide service to 750,000 customers in Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Mike, you want to take it away?
Mike Huwar (President of the Natural Gas)
Sure. Thanks, Chris, and I'm happy to be here today and appreciate the opportunity to highlight the significant and important work that the team at Peoples and Delta Gas is doing. So moving to slide 9, as noted on the slide, Peoples is the largest LDC in PA, with over 703,000 customers and $3.5 billion of rate base as of the end of 2023. Additionally, our gas segment includes Delta Gas, now serving over 40,000 customers in Kentucky. When you think of these two jurisdictions, it's important to be mindful that both Pennsylvania and Kentucky are supportive regulatory environments. And in Pennsylvania, Peoples service territory sits directly on top of the Marcellus and Utica Shale production zones that continue to give customers a lower-cost commodity to the national average, and that's helping keep bills affordable.
Since the acquisition by Essential, the clear focus of our gas segment has been the increased safety and reliability of our 15,000-mile distribution system. The best example of that focus has been the reduction of year-end outstanding leakage on our annual DOT report, having reduced outstanding leaks by 83% over the past five years. It should also be noted, Peoples has maintained its really strong focus on customer service, continuing to lead its peer group on the annual PA PUC Customer Satisfaction Survey. Moving to slide 10. You will recall that we filed a Pennsylvania gas rate case just before the new year.
It's the first case under Essential ownership, after staying out since 2019, and it includes a doubling of rate base from the last fully projected future test year as compared to this case, from $2.1 billion-$4.2 billion, primarily for replacement of aged bare steel and cast iron mains. Work that both increases safety and reliability, and reduces greenhouse gas emissions. In this case, Peoples has included a weather normalization mechanism, like many of our peers currently have available to them. The case is proceeding as planned. Evidentiary hearings are scheduled for May 9th, and as you would know, this is the typical time during the rate case process when conversations are happening between stakeholders. Finally, we expect rates to go into effect before the winter heating season.
On slide 11, beyond the operational focus and customer satisfaction performance, the Peoples and Essential teams continue to execute on aggressive pipeline modernization programs. Under the currently active long-term infrastructure improvement plan in PA, Peoples has replaced over 510 miles of pipeline, or 60% of the current LTIP target, while again enhancing the safety and reliability of our distribution system. This effort is leading our way to the target of reducing CO₂ emissions by 60% by 2035. At the conclusion of our current LTIP, Peoples will assess our progress and continue this critical infrastructure improvement work in a series of five-year plans. It should be noted, the runway of needed safety and reliability enhancements continues to grow as the industry focused on rebuilding infrastructure and reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Beyond the pipeline replacement and modernization, Peoples has been active in implementing technology improvements that have short-term and long-term benefits to system operation. Our ability to reduce the potential of overpressure events and the GPS functionality of our tracking and traceability program highlight this opportunity. Lastly, Peoples will pilot a game-changing meter technology in 2024, that allows utilities to interact with customers and have greater control over the distribution system. At Peoples and Essential, we are excited about the progress we have made and look forward to our future and continued focus on safety, reliability, affordability, and our customers. Chris, thank you, and back to you.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Mike, thanks for your leadership. Thanks for being with us today. View of the financial results. Dan?
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. On this slide, let's talk high level, and then we'll get into the details of the waterfalls. The quarterly performance was strong, especially when factoring in the gain on the energy project sale that was completed in January. Operating revenues were down due to the decline in natural gas commodity prices year-over-year, which positively impacted customer bills. Weather was warmer than normal, but was largely comparable to last year. Continued our focus on managing O&M expenses with a slight decline there year-over-year. I'll cover this more in detail when we talk through the waterfalls. These items, combined with the after-tax gain of $66 million from the sale of the three district energy projects, resulted in net income growth of 38.8% and earnings per share growth of 34.7% compared to last year.
Next, let's walk through the first quarter waterfalls. On slide 14, we have the revenue waterfall for the first quarter. Moving left to right, we have regulatory recoveries or rate increases in surcharges of nearly $14 million. Acquisitions and organic growth in the water business contributed $3 million, and that small increase is due to increased volumes of both water and gas. This was then offset by a decline in other and a significant reduction in purchased gas costs. The decline in other reflects a positive one-time impact of contracted deposit fees in Q1 2023, and lower PNG universal service rider revenue this year due to lower customer bills. The lower purchased gas reflects the significantly lower gas commodity price that our customers enjoyed relative to 2023.
I'll note that one thing you don't see here is a large change in the volume of gas due to weather. This is because the same period in 2023 also had materially warmer than normal weather. For the first quarter of 2024, it was about 15% warmer than normal, which resulted in weather-related natural gas sales, net of purchased gas costs, taking about $20 million below projections, for an earnings impact of $0.05 per share. Next, let's take a look at the O&M on slide 15. Here we have the O&M waterfall. We saw increases in production costs of $2.4 million and employee-related costs of $2 million. The employee-related costs are largely in line with inflation. However, we saw some larger increases in production expenses due to purchased water, purchased wastewater, and power prices.
Next, we had an increase due to customer growth in the water segment. These increases are offset by the lower costs from the gas segment universal services rider, which decreased due to the lower gas commodity prices this year, as well as lower other expenses. Other includes a number of items: increases in bad debt and materials and supplies, decreases in year-over-year gas segment expenses, and the impact of the sales of both West Virginia utility assets and the energy projects. This resulted in an O&M that was down slightly from last year. So overall, a positive story here. For the year, we expect O&M to be largely in line with our historic norms. Next, let's look at the EPS waterfall on slide 16.
Starting on the left side of the EPS waterfall with $0.72 from last year, the next thing we see is a $0.20 pickup in the other category. This increase in EPS includes the $66 million after-tax gain on sale from the energy projects, which closed in January. This was offset by increases in depreciation, interest, and taxes other than income. Next, we have the impact of the rates and surcharges, which contributed almost $0.04 cents. Then we have slight increases due to water growth and additional volumes of both water and gas, and finally, an insignificant impact of increased expenses. That lands them at $0.97 cents of EPS for the quarter.
Now, if we take that $0.97 of GAAP earnings per share for the quarter, and we subtract off the gain on sale of $0.24, and then we add back the $0.05 for weather that I mentioned earlier, we get to a number that exceeds our Q1 consensus. Next, let's move to slide 16 to provide an update on regulatory activity. This slide depicts our regulatory activity so far this year. We continue to manage our regulatory activity to maintain safe and reliable service, earn a return on the capital we invest, and minimize regulatory lag, while always considering affordability for our customers. Thus far, we've received authorization to increase water segment revenues by $13.7 million annually in Illinois, North Carolina, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and the Kentucky and Pennsylvania gas businesses have surcharges that will increase revenues by $1 million annually.
We have water segment rate cases or surcharges pending in Illinois, New Jersey, Texas, and Virginia, that total $43.2 million. The detailed breakdown of these can be found in the appendix. And of course, Mike just covered the Peoples rate case, which is underway currently. Finally, we expect to file a Pennsylvania water rate case during the third full week of May, which is nearly three years since we last filed. We'll provide more details on that case on our Q2 call in August. And with that, I'll hand the mic back to Chris. Chris?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
All right, Dan, thanks. So next, let's touch briefly on the municipal acquisition program. As of this call, we have six signed asset purchase agreements in two states where we already have existing water and wastewater operations. These acquisitions will add over 215,000 customer equivalents and about $385 million in purchase price. We continue to see strong and healthy pipeline of opportunities for additional growth, and we're currently engaged in active discussions with many municipalities. In fact, the customer count is over 400,000, and that will be on the water and wastewater side.
As we mentioned, if Chairman DeFrank's proposal and any of the associated bills in the legislature are successful, there should be a much clearer path to closing municipal acquisitions in Pennsylvania in the future, and I think that will free some of the municipalities that are currently thinking about it, but maybe standing still for the moment. We continue to believe increasing compliance requirements, such as PFAS, should lead to continued consolidation in what, as you all know, remains a very fragmented industry with over 50,000 water systems and 14,000 wastewater systems throughout the country. All right. So in closing, let's update the guidance we provided in February, so you have a clear line of sight to the opportunities in front of us. In February, we provided guidance for 2024 of net income per diluted common share of $1.96-$2.
At the time, we clearly indicated that that guidance was based on normal weather, as most utilities do. As Dan has mentioned, the weather in Q1 has been much warmer than normal. So for clarity's sake, if we assume normal weather from this point forward, we would finish the year on a GAAP basis above our guidance range due to the gain on sale. Dan took you through some of the calculation there just a moment ago. Now, through 2028, we plan to invest about $7.2 billion in regulated infrastructure in our existing utilities, a really strong capital program. In 2024, we expect to invest between $1.3 billion-$1.4 billion, and we're on track to do this.
As we've said many times, this is the primary generator of more reliability and, and service for our customers, as well as the primary generator of earnings per share for, for our shareholders. Based on this investment, we expect rate base will grow at a compounded annual growth rate of approximately 8% for water and about 10% for natural gas through 2028, and the combined utility rate base will grow at a compounded annual growth rate of over 8%. We continue to expect that together, organic customer growth and growth from acquisitions for water and wastewater will climb at a rate of 2%-3% per year on average. We remind investors always that growth from acquisitions is lumpy and should be viewed over a 3-year average. We expect continued stability in our natural gas customer base.
As we said before, we expect to raise about $250 million in equity this year using an ATM equity program. We remain committed to a 60% reduction in our Scope 1 and Scope 2 greenhouse gas emissions by 2035 from our 2019 baseline. As you know, we've made significant progress already on this, and we estimate it to be over 25%, as of year-end last year. I'll note that the team feels that we are well prepared for the SEC climate rule, which is currently stayed due to various legal challenges. So I'm going to conclude my formal remarks for today, and we'd like to open it up for questions. I'll send it back to the operator.
Operator (participant)
Thank you very much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you wish to ask any audio questions, please press star one on your telephone keypad, and also just make sure your mute function is not activated alongside on your equipment. Our first question today is coming from Durgesh Chopra, calling from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Your line is open, sir.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Hey, Durgesh.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Good morning, Durgesh.
Durgesh Chopra (Managing Director)
Hey, Chris, Dan, good morning. Thanks for giving me time. Hey, just I wanted to kind of kickstart with the gas rate case in Pennsylvania. Obviously, you guys have probably seen all the media reports around the water case that is ongoing. Just any read-throughs from there or any color that you can share on how that case is progressing?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, I guess I would just say apples to oranges in many ways. And so, we'll feel very good about the strong case that we presented. And, as Dan mentioned, I'm sorry, as Mike mentioned in his comments, that, as you would expect, we're sort of in that period of time where we can have discussions, you know, about a settlement. And, you know, we'll see how those discussions go. But, we're prepared to see this case through, but so far, very creative and good relationships with the advocates and the commission.
Durgesh Chopra (Managing Director)
Excellent. Thanks for that update, Chris. And then maybe just switching gears, you know, other states, and I'm sure you've seen this also, there have been some lawsuits filed by residents against the utility, the water utility, you know, related to PFAS. Can you comment if whether you've seen anything like that in your service territories and implications, if any, for your business?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
So fortunately, we have not. And, I like to think that that's because we've been so out front on this issue for so many years, Durgesh. You'll recall, five years ago, we started down this path before most people even knew what the PFAS discussion was. And, we started mitigation, well before many others. So I'd like to think it's because of our work we've been doing. And then our disclosures have been really strong. Anywhere we've seen PFAS, we have reported it publicly. And, of course, we created that internal standard at 13 parts per trillion several years ago, well before the EPA came out with any standard.
And so I'd like to think that all of that proactive work is part of the reason why we haven't been in that focus for lawsuits, but no, at this point, we've not seen anything.
Durgesh Chopra (Managing Director)
Yeah, Chris, Chris, and I can turn your test to your leadership there. You were kind of the first voice in the industry, talking those issues. Okay, thank you very much. That's all I had. Thanks for the time.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you much, sir.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Take care.
Operator (participant)
Our next question will be coming from Davis Sunderland, calling in from Baird. Please go ahead, your line is open.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Hey, Davis.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Hey, Davis.
Davis Sunderland (Senior Research Associate)
Hey, hey, guys, happy Friday. Thanks for taking my question.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, happy Friday to you.
Davis Sunderland (Senior Research Associate)
Thank you. Wanted to ask about the pending municipal transactions and the PFAS guidance for the $450 million in capital. Does this include the pending transactions? And maybe, I guess, just to add on to that, how has PFAS discussions or [PFAS] discussions surrounding costs associated with upgrading systems made its way into potential discussions for new systems so far?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, it's a good question. And, you know, what we're largely focused on, as you mentioned at the beginning of your question, is municipal transactions. And, generally, and I'm not talking about Los Angeles and, you know, Philadelphia, New York, but generally, the municipal systems that we're focused on are smaller. And so, I would say more of a prevailing theme would be that they haven't tested yet, and so not all of them even know, whether or not they have PFAS. And so I think what we're gonna find as this, MCL was put, the maximum contaminant level, was put in place, recently, I think we're gonna find a lot of testing. We're gonna find a lot of them that find problems.
So I would expect that that discussion really ramps up in this coming year and over the next 5 years as everybody's forced to comply with the four parts per trillion. But I wouldn't say that it was a major theme at this point in our current discussions with the municipal transactions we have today.
Davis Sunderland (Senior Research Associate)
That was it.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
I think your second question, Davis, was around, what, does the $450 million include capital for acquisitions? And we don't typically, until we close those, they wouldn't be in our calculation then.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Yeah, that's correct. And Davis, when if you look at the acquisitions that we have pending to close, they are more biased toward wastewater acquisitions rather than water. And I don't believe at this point that there's PFAS in the water acquisition or two that are in that list. But in any event, we think that it's, you know, when we think of the $450 million, or as we've said, at least $450 million, it wouldn't be a material change on that if we have a few more sites.
Davis Sunderland (Senior Research Associate)
Got it. That makes sense. That's helpful. And maybe one other question, this might be a bit hypothetical. So I, I guess just asking as to whether normalization and what you've applied for in the pending gas case, do you have any estimates or any commentary or any thoughts maybe as to what a normal season would have been for this past quarter, or what the impact would have been had you been given this, weather normalization clause that you guys have applied for?
Dan Schuller (CFO)
I guess, Davis, the way I'd characterize that is if you think of the twenty million dollar net revenue shortfall that I mentioned, that would be inside, call it, a five million dollar impact if we had weather normalization, kind of, you know, depending where that weather normalization comes out exactly. But it would, as you can see, materially reduce the volatility that we see in a year like we had last year or this year in terms of a downside, but also in a very cold year, it would have the impact of keeping customer bills at a more normalized level as well.
Davis Sunderland (Senior Research Associate)
Got it. That's helpful. Appreciate the time, guys. Thank you very much.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Yep. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, Mr. Sunderland. Our next question will be coming from Travis Miller, calling from Morningstar. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Hey, Travis.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Good morning, Travis.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Thank you. Hello, everyone. Hi. A couple of follow-ups to some things you mentioned in the prepared remarks. One is the supply chain. I thought that was an interesting comment there and thought process there. In terms of, are there raw materials or equipment or something that you see constrained right now or you would anticipate could be constrained, to your point about the short time period here, relatively short time period?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, we think about tanks, right? Each of them, you know, there are the... And we—by the way, most of our systems where we're doing mitigation are small systems. We do have some large ones, but a lot of them, the vast majority of them, are small systems. When you think about two different tanks, so those tanks have to be fabricated, purchased, and fabricated and put in unison. So and we need to think about two times all of the systems that we have to implement, which are hundreds. And then the carbon material, you know, is also something. Now, that would be ongoing essentially because that would have to be replaced or regenerated.
But if we think about those materials, there could be some constraints on the ability to deliver. That's why I say over a five-year period, spreading it out, is gonna be a lot more palatable to people, because if we try to squeeze that into three years, it's really tough. We're out there, we're already doing mass purchases to get ready. So, you know, that's not gonna be a challenge for us necessarily, but it could be for others. And so let's remember that EPA significantly underestimated the impact of this rule, and so, you know, the rush on some of these materials is gonna be much more significant than I think was initially anticipated by EPA.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Makes sense. Then just real quick follow-up, the tanks that you mentioned, if you obviously are doing a lot of the PFAS stuff already. Can you use the tanks you're using already, or are those unique tanks that you would have to replace or don't have? Does that make sense?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. These would be brand new, added to the site of each of these sources, right? And so the two tanks would be, could be in a building or outside of a building, but they would be brand new to the process at each site.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay, that makes sense. And then one other, it's the hottest topic in the sector right now, the data centers. You any impact there, either or even large manufacturers for the gas business, large factories, anything there that would be upside?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, Mike's here, and there's none that I'm aware of that would be materially impacting gas. But Mike, anything you're seeing?
Mike Huwar (President of the Natural Gas)
I think it's a great question, and I will say that locally within our service territory, there are project developers that are looking for opportunities that include sites with connection to the grid, customers that may even want to take power offline. The value of being located with vast pipelines as well as ample and low-cost natural gas is driving that opportunity.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Mm-hmm. And, and anything on the water side? You know, we hear that the data centers are water intensive. Anything that would be relevant there?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, no. Yeah, no, it's a good question. Well, I'll tell you what, Ohio has been really successful at attracting some of these facilities, not only data centers, but also, you know, chip manufacturing and also general manufacturing. They've really done a beautiful job there. We would like to participate in that, and so, you know, we are, you know, engaging in Ohio. But, of course, there's a lot happening in Texas as well. That, Travis, isn't necessarily the plant itself, but then the housing that comes along with a new manufacturing plant, because of the employee base that's added. So we're seeing that kind of growth, particularly in Texas.
And so that would be more the nature of our participation on the water side, not necessarily the plant itself, but the follow-on housing.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Yeah. Okay. Makes sense. Thanks so much for the time.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
You bet.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Take care, Travis.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, sir. We'll now be moving to Jonathan Reeder, calling from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Hey, Jonathan.
Hey, good morning.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Good morning, Jonathan.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
I was hoping to just get a little more clarity on the guidance exactly. So excluding the $0.24 gain on sale, do you expect to be able to deliver, you know, the full year 2024 EPS within that $1.96-$2 range? You know, in other words, can you offset the $0.05 weather headwind in Q1?
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Jonathan, I think we'd say that that's a difficult challenge at this point, given that the $0.05 weather impact in the first quarter.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
I think the math Dan took you through is pretty clear. What we can't predict, as we had in 2022, Jonathan, is a blockbuster, November, December in natural gas, which could make up. But we try to predict and guide based on normal weather. And that's why when we add in the weather normalization, it makes it a much easier prediction. We would not have anticipated, especially two years in a row, to have the weather impact that we just saw in 2023 Q1 and 2024 Q1. So, again, I think Dan's math took you through how we think about that, on an impact given what we saw in the first quarter.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Yeah. For some reason, I was thinking the impact on Q1 2023 was even larger, like closer to $0.08. So when I saw, or when I heard you guys say $0.05, it sounded like, okay, maybe that was something that could be a little more manageable. Or, like you said, maybe you get some favorable weather, whether it's, you know, at the water business over the summer or, you know, the gas business in Q4, that helps kind of balance things out, so.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Yeah, Jonathan, I might, I might add that, you know, last year there was a significant impact in the first quarter, but by this point, we also had a few positives that we were already had already experienced in the year or were seeing ahead of us. So, we already had that New Jersey contract fee reversal that we talked about in the first quarter last year. We had a Texas water pass-through that you've heard us talk about. We had some things that were clean up from our SAP implementation. We had some capitalization of 2022 expenses in the first quarter of 2023, which were beneficial. And then at this point, when we had the call, we knew we had a relatively chilly April.
So we were in a little bit different situation, and then ultimately, we saw the natural gas safe harbor come through, which was beneficial as well last year in terms of getting back on track and inside that guidance range. I think this year we're a little bit more susceptible to the weather impact. As you know, we'll do everything we can to claw back pennies and focus on our operating model in order to do that. But you know, just in transparency of that here today, it's just a little bit harder than it was last year.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Gotcha. No, I appreciate that addition, clarity there. Maybe try and ask Durgesh's one question a little differently. Can you talk about the prospects of reaching the settlement in the, the Peoples Gas case, as well as just more broadly, you know, the challenges or inability on the water side for you, and, you know, now it appears Pennsylvania American to reach settlement in the cases? Because historically, you know, settlements seem to be the norm in Pennsylvania.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Listen, you know, I can't give you any details because for obvious reasons. But you know, I think it's all about the healthy exchange between the parties. And you know, we're not gonna agree on everything, that's why I called it a settlement. You know, I'll just leave it at this, Chad, that it is a constructive discussion that's taking place right now, and I can't predict whether we're gonna have a settlement or we'll litigate it. It's a constructive discussion.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Gotcha. Okay. So, I mean, you don't think it's a, like, there's anything more broadly in the Pennsylvania regulatory construct or regulatory environment that's, I guess, leaning parties not to settle anymore?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
I do not.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Okay. And then I know you said you expect the commission will vote shortly on the final revisions to the fair market value framework. Do you have any insight regarding, you know, the potential like, significance of any changes from Chair DeFrank's, you know, original proposal? And then, you know, are you still of the opinion that the only changes to the framework will be from the commission and not legislatively?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
So yeah, let me answer it two separately. There was over 30 commenters, right? A lot of comments about, about, you know, the Chairman's C Motion. And I know that they are carefully considering all of those comments and will think about how they might impact. But you know, and those are all public, right? So we'd be able to see those. I wouldn't say there's anything new in those comments from what we've seen and heard prior to the CMotion. So all those opinions, I think are, you know, there are no surprises there, let's say that. And so I would be hopeful that the Chairman would, you know, be pretty close to his view initially.
Plus, there's 5 votes and 5 opinions up there, so we'll have to see what that looks like as they kind of push through. Now, the second part of the question about legislation. No, I think there was a series of pieces of legislation that moved through the House of Representatives in the on the committee level, and those are on the floor. And there is a ongoing discussion with the leadership in the House of Representatives about what might we accomplish, because the bills that were released from committee are not things that we would want to see passed, and we understand that they would probably not be successful in the Senate.
However, if there was some compromise language that could be reached, that would be similar to Chair DeFrank's motion at the commission. I think there's real possibilities there. And that discussion in the House of Representatives is ongoing, and I think there's a lot of stakeholders that are involved. So we're, you know, and we're participating. But I would hope that it would come out similar to the motion and the commission, and this would really, really give us all a clear path as to how this is gonna work moving forward.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Okay. No, that's really helpful to know that, yeah, like, if something you think if something comes out of the legislature, it's not, I guess, in the current, like, kind of penal form or like removing Act 12 and, you know, the draconian kind of stuff. It's, you know, how do we how do we tweak fair market value to still promote the consolidation of the fragmented industry and everything like that?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
That's right. I'm told that in the Senate, there's not an appetite for repeal, that they believe that municipal leadership, as elected officials, have the right to transact if that's what their decision is. And so, and that's been made pretty clear by the Senate. So I think if there's compromised language, we could all work together. If not, I don't think much will happen at all, at the legislative side.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Great. No, that, that's excellent color. So thank you so much. Good luck with, with the fair market value. Good luck with the rate case. And then you said on the water side, you're gonna be filing, I think, next week for, for the new water rate case in PA, is that right?
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Later in the month of May, the third full week in May.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Oh, third full week.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Yeah.
Jonathan Reeder (Equities Research Associate Analyst)
Gotcha. I missed that little one. All right. Thanks a lot, guys. See you at AGA.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
All right, yeah, take care.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, Mr. Reeder. We'll now move to Ryan Connors calling from Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Hey, Ryan.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Morning, morning.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Ryan, good morning.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Thanks for taking my question. So yeah, I actually had a couple big picture questions. One came to mind as you were discussing the PFAS kind of potential bottlenecks in equipment purchasing and that sort of thing, and you're talking about making mass purchases. You know, been on some of the earnings calls for these vendors of this equipment lately, and, you know, it's a real gravy train. They're talking about not giving back any of the pricing that they took the last few years and continuing to raise prices above and beyond inflation.
And so it kind of comes to mind that that's all happening at the same time, you know, your industry is seeing greater concern about affordability, and if not yourselves, at least some seeing some real pushback on rate cases, and that sort of thing. I mean, are the water utilities gonna just kind of get squeezed in between the manufacturers and the ratepayers here, or is there some? At what point does the pushback on the pricing of the equipment or, you know, what construct is in the regulatory framework for to account for sort of price gouging or just curious what your thoughts are on that? Seem like you're caught in the middle there.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, to some extent, you're right. Although I give Dan, Dan's purchasing and procurement is under Dan's purview at the company, give him a lot of credit. They've already been out there in the market negotiating some of these things. So maybe, Dan, you want to talk a little bit about some of our success there?
Dan Schuller (CFO)
Yeah. So, you know, when we think about this, there are a couple different scales here. So we've got small systems in states like North Carolina and areas like Western Pennsylvania, where we've got relatively small systems we're gonna put in, I think, 3-foot diameter canisters. You know, we would look to buy those en masse across the need there, which is, as Chris said, you know, we've got hundreds of these to do. You've got two tanks per installation. You have two vessels. So, you know, it is a lot of vessels, Ryan, as we think about it. So, you know, we'll go out with bids that are for packages of those, if you will. Not all at once, obviously, but with enough volume to drive volume-based discounts, buying a lot of the same size vessels, with multiple suppliers.
Now, two, is something that's been discussed in the space is, for those things that are funded by the federal government in some way, we're getting a grant or a loan, you know, we have to use American-made products. We're not gonna have to use that everywhere, and I think the municipal and investment utilities will all realize that, you know, they've got to go a little more broadly in terms of finding supply here, and if to hold price down, we need to go to offshore manufacturers of these types of vessels that will do that. So I think we've got those small vessels, we've got larger vessels, so I think, you know, kind of 12-foot diameter. You know, again, these are things that are fairly standard. There are multiple manufacturers of those.
We'll look for multiple bids and go with the best price. I mean, that's really our objective here is to always put in the appropriate equipment at the appropriate price, for the protection of our customers.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, capitalize on our economies of scale.
Right.
We're obviously gonna be a big player in the purchases. And I do think, Ryan, where we're so much susceptible would be on the resin or on the carbon, because it's gonna be ongoing purchases. But you know, we're hopeful that we can negotiate fair pricing.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Yep. Okay. No, that's I appreciate all the detail there. My other one was, you know, Chris, you mentionedso as, as this reform process plays out for Act 12, you mentioned that, you know, potential sellers have been kind of standing still, and I'm a little surprised and, and curious why it wouldn't be the opposite. Why, if I'm a city and I feel like there's gonna be a cap put on valuations, why I wouldn't be rushing to, to sort of get my APA signed before that happens? Because presumably there'll be some grandfathering in of deals that have been, been signed. So, can you discuss, like, why is that not the case?
Why is there not sort of a rush to get things done and sit on your hands and wait for a cap to be put in from a seller standpoint? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
I think the reality is, even if there's a grandfathering, that's, as you know, part of the language that's out there, just the base reality is here, these things are ending up in court. And so, you know, even if it's grandfathered and the commission was okay with it, and the Consumer Advocate then challenges it, as they have in some cases for us and you know, some of our peers, we end up tied up in court. And we want... You know, I think we're tired of it, investors are tired of it. We wanna get deals that we can transact and actually close.
So, that's the important work with this C Motion, you know, it's the clarity of how do we get to close? What is affirmative public benefit, and what's not challengeable in court? I just think that as municipals look at it, and we do too, at this point, if we think that even if they're grandfathered, they're gonna end up tied up in court and appealed in court and everything else, you know, we're taking a little bit of a wait and see attitude.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Yep. Yep. No, that's a great point. It makes total sense when you put it that way. Yeah, then lastly, just on the PFAS thing, you know, I remember you talked about treatment or testing rather, and the fact that that's, you know, not all these systems have been tested. I remember visiting the Bryn Mawr, the brand new Bryn Mawr, you know, kind of labs when it was constructed, I guess, a few years ago. And one of the things that the tour talked about was how that facility can do testing for, not only for your own stuff, but for municipalities and so forth.
I mean, is that gonna be a commercial opportunity that would be meaningful if a lot of these systems just have to get samples tested, or is that just kind of immaterial?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, I mean, you raise a good point. We are still the only state-certified utility lab that can test PFAS in the state of Pennsylvania now. So, there is opportunity there. Now, having said that, you know, we wanna get ourselves situated where we are in a position that we're in full compliance within the five-year period. So there is substantial testing running through their lab. Before we would add another shift, we would wanna explore that opportunity a little bit. But I'm not saying that we're not, Ryan. I'm just saying that at this point, we're really focused on full compliance at Essential Utilities, and then we'll look for opportunities beyond. But you're thinking about it the right way.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Yep. Okay. Thanks for your time.
Dan Schuller (CFO)
All right. Take care.
Operator (participant)
Thank you very much, Mr. Connors. Ladies and gentlemen, once again, if you have any questions, please do press star one at this time. We'll now move to Gregg Orrill calling from UBS. Please go ahead, sir.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Hey, Greg.
Greg Orrill (Research Anayst)
Yeah, hi. Thank you. Hey, do you have anything to report on the DELCORA purchase agreement?
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
Oh, Greg, we couldn't go one call without a DELCORA question. Of course, but yeah, you know, we I guess one bit of good news, I guess you could position it as good news. So we were due to be in court on May eighth to and this was in the Commonwealth, in the state court. And they were going to hear the argument from the county, which essentially is appealing the decision of the lower county court, that said that the asset purchase agreement is valid and enforceable. And so that oral argument was canceled and the judges said that they were going to make the decision based on filed briefs. Now, typically, that's good news.
But, you know, we won't know until the decision is out. But, I think, you know, the aspect of timing actually is probably helpful here, too, because as we're told, you know, often the judge's decision comes a little bit more quickly when they're not digesting oral arguments, and they're just focused on the briefs that have already been filed, because obviously, they've read them already. And so, we take that as a little bit of a vote there and optimism. That would be a nice addition. And, you know, in Delaware County, where this DELCORA exists, they raised the taxes last year, and there's talk about raising taxes again this year.
We've taken that as an opportunity to reengage with elected officials in the county and, just to, to remind them that there are significant proceeds associated with, closing this transaction, and might they consider, you know, reengaging on a settlement discussion, and, and then letting the, the need for a, a tax increase go. So I would say that that discussion is ongoing. So always something happening on, on DELCORA. But remember that the, the key gating factor here is we have a, we have a, a stay on the process by a federal bankruptcy court judge that is, not associated with the transaction itself, but, the bankruptcy of the City of Chester, where some of the assets of DELCORA lie.
So we're still waiting for action on that, but we continue activity in the background.
Greg Orrill (Research Anayst)
Okay, appreciate the update.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
You bet.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, Mr. Orrill. Ladies and gentlemen, we don't appear to have any further questions. I turn the call back over to Mr. Chris Franklin for any additional or closing remarks. Thank you.
Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)
All right. Thanks, folks, for joining us. And as always, Brian, Dan, the team stand ready to answer your follow-up questions, should you have any. Thanks for joining us today, and have a great weekend.
Operator (participant)
Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's presentation. Thank you for your attendance. You may now disconnect. Have a good day and goodbye.