Essential Utilities - Earnings Call - Q2 2025

Executive Summary

• Q2 2025 delivered a clean beat: Revenue $514.9M vs S&P Global consensus $467.2M (+10.2%), EPS $0.38 vs $0.298 (+27%); both divisions “firing on all cylinders” with rates and purchased gas costs driving topline. Estimates retrieved from S&P Global.*
• Management now expects full-year GAAP EPS to land above prior $2.07–$2.11 guidance due to non-recurring benefits, while reaffirming long-term targets and capex plans ($1.4–$1.5B for 2025; $7.8B through 2029).
• Dividend increased 5.25% to $0.3426 per share; H1 capex reached $613M with weighted average debt cost at 4.03% and $802M of liquidity on credit lines.
• Call commentary highlighted PFAS progress and cash inflows (received ~$7.1M YTD; targeting ~$45–$46M in 2025), regulatory momentum, and emerging data center opportunities in Pennsylvania as potential medium-term catalysts.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

• Broad-based execution: “both our water and gas divisions firing on all cylinders,” with GAAP EPS up 35% YoY to $0.38 and revenue up 18.5% YoY to $514.9M on rate awards and purchased gas costs.
• Water and gas segment growth: Water revenue rose 9.9% YoY to $332.3M; Gas revenue rose 38.3% YoY to $177.3M, supported by rate/surcharge actions and commodity pass-throughs.
• Strategic positioning: CEO spotlighted hydrogen technology pilot and active discussions with hyperscalers for data centers; H1 capex $613M keeps 2025 investment on track.

What Went Wrong

• Weather and volume headwinds: Lower water volumes due to wet weather offset some gains; management noted wet summer impacting Q2 and early Q3.
• Cost pressures: O&M up to $148.5M (+4.2% YoY) on employee-related costs, bad debt, materials; interest expense increased to $79.8M, reflecting rate environment.
• Inflation persists in select inputs (e.g., chemicals), and interest rates remain higher than expected; management flagged these as continuing headwinds.

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Essential Utilities Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to queue a question, again, press the star one. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Dingerdissen. You may begin.

Brian Dingerdissen (VP of Financial Planning and Analysis, Treasury and Investor Relations)

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the second quarter 2025 earnings call. If you did not receive a copy of the press release, you can find it by visiting our website. The slides are also found on the website. As a reminder, some of the matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that involve risk, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause the actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Please refer to our most recent 10-Q, 10-K, and other SEC filings for a description of such risk and uncertainties. During the course of this call, references may be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of any non-GAAP to GAAP financial measures is posted on our website.

We will begin the call with Chris Franklin, our Chairman and CEO, who will provide an update on the company. Colleen Arnold, the President of our Aqua business, will provide an update on the water business. Dan Schuller, our Chief Financial Officer, will then provide an overview of the financial results before Chris closes the call and opens it up for questions. With that, I will turn the call over to Chris Franklin.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Hey, thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. Let's just jump right in on slide five there with some highlights from the quarter. We delivered another strong quarter reporting GAAP earnings per share of $0.38. That's a 35% increase over the same quarter last year. Both our water and gas businesses performed very well and in line with our expectations. Simply put, both divisions are firing on all cylinders. Our gas business continued its impressive trajectory with net income for the quarter of $17.5 million. I'm not going to steal any thunder from Colleen. She's going to share a little bit more about the water business in a few minutes. As you've come to expect, we are executing nearly flawlessly in both our water and our natural gas segments.

Based on our strong year-to-date performance, we expect to achieve GAAP earnings per share above our guidance range of $2.07 to $2.11, largely due to several non-recurring benefits. We're also reaffirming our capital investment plans with a target of approximately $1.4 billion in infrastructure investment for 2025. As of June 30, we've already deployed $613 million in critical infrastructure improvements across our footprint. Let me take a moment to highlight some exciting developments happening in our home state of Pennsylvania. Earlier this month, we participated in the Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit, which was hosted by our new United States Senator, Dave McCormick. Energy leaders from around the country gathered to share thoughts, breakthroughs in energy and technology, and our Gas Division President, Michael Huwar, showcased our ongoing hydrogen pilot project. This is a cutting-edge technology developed in partnership with HQuest and the University of Pittsburgh.

The comparatively low price of energy in Pennsylvania makes it such a logical choice for hyperscalers looking to locate data centers. We continue to have active discussions with some of those hyperscalers as we speak. Moving from Pennsylvania to Texas, we serve customers in the Kerrville area of Texas. You recall the terrible flood that took place just several weeks ago. Fortunately, all of our employees and their families made it through the storm. One of our employees and his family had nine feet of water in their home and had some absolutely harrowing moments, but thank God they're healing from their injuries and working to reestablish their home. During the height of the event, we had some customer outages, but restored service to most customers within 24 hours and all customers within 48 hours. A really exemplary job done by our Texas team.

Speaking of employees, last month we wrapped up our most recent employee engagement survey under the theme "Better Together," and I know employee engagement is becoming a common topic for investors. Our results reflected the impact of our focused efforts to enhance our work environment. In fact, participation in the survey increased 23%, which was fantastic. Satisfaction scores rose by 6%, and on average, survey scores improved by seven points. These results reflect our continued focus on creating an engaging, inclusive, and supportive workplace. Each year we take great pride in reminding shareholders that for more than 30 years in a row, we've increased our dividend. As an expression of continued confidence, yesterday the board of directors approved a 5.25% increase in the dividend. We remain committed to delivering long-term shareholder value through dividends and share price appreciation. Let's take a look at slide six.

I want to touch on a couple of community engagement issues. In April, we successfully concluded our fourth annual Essential Earth Day, and this is a 30-day campaign dedicated to environmental stewardship and community engagement. The slide showcases our efforts in recent years, which include volunteer events, environmental programs, and a significant investment from our Essential Foundation. As recognition for our community engagement and leadership, we were recently honored as one of Greater Philadelphia's most community-minded businesses. This is a recognition that we really appreciate and take to heart. Modeled after the Points of Light National Program, the award recognizes companies that set the standard for civic engagement through using their time, talent, and resources. This commitment to community engagement is something we do in all of our states where we have businesses.

On a personal note, I am thrilled and honored to be named the Chairman-elect of the Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce. I look forward to partnering with leaders from around the region to promote economic growth and regional priorities, which hopefully end up with more utility customers. Moving to slide seven, let's talk about the shareholder value. We continue to deliver steady, reliable growth in earnings and dividends. 2025 is shaping up to be another strong year, with core earnings per share expected to grow this year between 5% and 7%. Most of this growth is driven by investments in water and natural gas infrastructure. Of note, since we started providing annual guidance back in 2016, we have consistently met or exceeded market expectations. This consistency has enabled strong dividend growth, underpinned by the outstanding execution of our operations team and their commitment to communities we serve.

I have to tell you, I continue to be impressed by what our team has achieved, and I'm honored to continue to be steward of this great company with its 140-year history. Today, I want to continue the tradition of spotlighting our business segment leaders. Last quarter you heard from Michael Huwar, President of our natural gas division, and today we welcome Colleen Arnold, President of our water division, who will share some thoughts on our water business. Colleen?

Colleen Arnold (President of Aqua Division)

Thanks, Chris. I'm happy to be here today and especially appreciate the opportunity to highlight the important work that the team at Aqua is doing. As a reminder for our investors, Aqua, as Chris just mentioned, has a strong 140-year history and has grown from a small water company in suburban Philadelphia to serving more than a million customers with over $7 billion of rate base in eight states. Notably, as shown on slide nine, we are expecting annual rate base growth of 6% through 2029, not including acquisitions. The need for infrastructure investments has never been greater. The EPA is estimating $1 trillion of need in water and Wastewater infrastructure. That growth rate could easily grow with acquisitions. I've worked in the water industry for over 30 years, including as a consultant for municipalities and for a large city itself.

Between the increasing complexity of PFAS, cybersecurity, Wastewater, and declining funding, the conditions have never been more opportune. Highlighting our operational excellence on slide ten, as you see on the left, our O&M efficiency performs in the top quartile and has done so for over a decade. We take pride in ensuring that we are spending our customers' dollars efficiently. Equally important is that it is not at the expense of safe, reliable service. The top right-hand side chart shows that we outperform water systems nationally with five to nine times fewer health-based and aesthetic violations. The bottom chart also shows our strong safety record, the top quartile performance with respect to severe safety incidents. As we move to slide 11, we are tremendously proud of our industry-leading PFAS commitment.

We have been working on this for our customers since 2016, well before the EPA and state MCLs, because it was the right thing to do for our customers. Our laboratory in Pennsylvania was one of the first certified, and we sampled all of our sources proactively, enabling us to be where we are today. At this point, we have over 50 of our 300-plus sites mitigated and approximately another 50 under construction. This level of execution was made possible by the ingenuity of our engineering team, who designed a proprietary modular system with applicability for groundwater systems. We've recently signed a distribution agreement with ChartWater to sell this patent-pending solution called PFAS Guard to community water systems. It is generating a lot of interest.

While we expect increased regulation to enhance acquisition opportunities, municipal systems, speaking from my experience, having worked with one, are slow to meet regulatory requirements, and many are just beginning to do the initial monitoring for PFAS now. The extension of regulatory deadlines may enable them to delay longer. However, we remain optimistic that as the monitoring results come in, with our strong leadership, proven track record, and partnerships, this will be a strong avenue for acquisition growth. Lastly, speaking of growth, I wanted to spend a little bit of time on Aqua Texas, where we have grown by nearly 25,000 connections to over 100,000 connections over the last 10 years, and currently have another 90,000 under contract or negotiation. This is in line with the impressive growth the state has seen, with a 16% population increase and corresponding 30% GDP growth or economic expansion.

Our three core operational areas, outside Spring, Austin, and Fort Worth, Texas, grew from 20% to 40%. Most notably, Austin Metro, our area of highest developer growth, grew 40%. Based on customer growth and infrastructure needs, we expect to nearly double repeat the $1.1 billion in Texas by year-end 2029. Now would be a good time to mention that we recently led, with the Texas Association of Water Companies, the passage of future test year legislation. This will enable us to recover that capital investment and minimize regulatory lag. I would like to thank our amazing employees who really made that possible. We are excited for our future in Texas. With that, I will turn it to Dan for a review of the financials.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Thanks, Colleen. Let's begin on slide 15 with a high-level view of the first quarter results, and then we'll get into the details on the waterfalls. Our quarterly performance was strong, with revenues up 18.5% due primarily to favorable rate case outcomes in Pennsylvania, both for our gas and water subsidiaries, higher purchased gas costs, and increased gas volume. Corresponding earnings per share are up 35.7% on a year-over-year basis due to those drivers, partially offset by higher O&M, depreciation, interest, and taxes. On slide 16, we have the revenue waterfall for the first quarter. Revenues increased $80.5 million from $434.4 million a year ago to $514.9 million this year. Approximately $44 million of that increase is the result of rates and surcharges, with $31 million of that attributed to water and $13 million from natural gas.

Purchased gas, which represents the cost of the gas sold by the company, increased $23 million year-over-year due to an increase in gas commodity prices and higher natural gas usage. The other category of $9.8 million includes $4.6 million in weather normalization and $4.1 million in reduced tax reverse surcredits to customers as a result of last year's Peoples rate order. Increased gas volumes provided $4.3 million in increased revenue, while growth in the water business contributed $2.1 million. These were offset by $2.6 million from lower water volumes. Due to wet weather, we saw decreased consumption in a number of our states. Next, on slide 17, our O&M slide, we see O&M expenses up about $6 million or 4.2% year-over-year.

The main drivers include an increase in employee-related costs of $6.1 million compared to prior periods, an increase in bad debt expense of $2.2 million, and increases in legal expenses, partially offset by favorability in other expenses, primarily as a result of capitalization. The increase in employee-related costs includes about $0.65 million of increased insurance reserves as we move the Peoples employees from a fully insured health plan to a self-insured health plan. If we normalize out the growth, the universal services rider increase, and the higher-than-normal employee expenses, such as the insurance reserve, we get to a year-over-year increase of less than 3%, which is in line with our historic norms.

On slide 18, our earnings slide, we can see the previously mentioned effects: an $0.11 positive impact from rates and surcharges, a $0.01 increase due to higher natural gas volume, and a $0.02 negative impact due to lower water volume and increased expenses. Turning to slide 19, as you remember, this is a slide we introduced last quarter that provides more insight into how our annual EPS breaks out by quarter. We've now added the two quarters as reported, with both at the high end of the shaded ranges. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect our EPS to be between 10% and 20% of our annual guidance, and we expect our fourth quarter to be between 20% and 30% of our yearly guidance. We have some non-recurring items this year that benefit earnings. On a normalized basis, we continue to target $2.07 to $2.11.

As Chris mentioned, we currently expect GAAP EPS to exceed $2.11. Lastly, let's move to slide 20 to provide an update on regulatory activity. On July 1, 2025, our natural gas operating subsidiary in Kentucky received an order from the Kentucky Public Service Commission. This order approved the settlement agreement that allows base rate increases designed to increase total annual operating revenues by $7.7 million or 11.2%. New rates in Kentucky went into effect on July 1. We currently have three pending rate cases or surcharges in North Carolina, which is a three-year forward-looking rate case, Ohio, Texas, and Virginia, with requested annual revenue increases of $96.6 million. It's a busy year on the regulatory front. We continue to manage our regulatory activity to maintain safe and reliable service, earn an appropriate return on the capital that we invest, and minimize regulatory lag while always considering affordability for our customers.

Before I conclude, we wanted to take a moment to recognize Bob Rubin. Bob's been with the company for 36 years, and he's been our Chief Accounting Officer for 20 years. During this time, Bob's had ultimate responsibility for our financials and SEC filings, and he's played a critical role in our earnings call prep. Thanks for your contributions to the company, Bob, and for your friendship. You will be missed. Fortunately, over the past few quarters, Bob has worked to transition his role to Brad Palmer, our new Chief Accounting Officer, so we won't miss a beat. Welcome to that new role, Brad. With that, I'll turn it back over to Chris. Chris?

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

All right. Thanks, Dan. Now let's move to slide 23, where we touch on our long-term growth requisition strategy that for many years and really continues to be focused on growing our water and Wastewater business. Last week, we finalized our $37.75 million purchase of the City of Beaver Falls Wastewater system in Beaver County, Pennsylvania, serving about 7,000 customers. That's out near Pittsburgh. We plan to invest $10 million in the system, focused primarily on improving both operational efficiency and environmental compliance. We're very excited to welcome our new customers and bring their system up to our standards. For 2025, in total, the company has acquired systems which serve approximately 10,300 customers for approximately $58 million. We also have another four signed purchase agreements for relatively small systems in Pennsylvania and Texas.

I'll remind you that progress on Delcora continues to be stalled by a stay put in place by a federal bankruptcy court judge related to the bankruptcy of the City of Chester. There's really nothing new to report on Delcora, but I'll remind you that Delcora is not included in our current guidance numbers. Now, turning to slide 24, I'll close by reiterating some of our goals and aspirations, both short-term and long-term. We continue to see strong growth potential in both our water and gas platforms and expect our combined utility rate base to grow at a compounded annual growth rate of about 8%. Breaking this down a little further, the regulated water segment is expected to grow about 6%, and our regulated natural gas segment rate base will grow about 11%. We are reaffirming our 5% to 7% multi-year earnings per share guidance through 2027.

This includes acquisitions expected to close in 2025 and 2026, but as we've said before, excludes Delcora. This projection includes the crucial work that we're doing to remediate PFAS across our water platform, as well as our work to replace aging water and natural gas pipes. We remain committed to maintaining a strong balance sheet, improving our cash flow and debt metrics, and delivering consistent dividend growth while keeping our payout ratio between 60% and 65%. All in all, we see a bright future for our company as we continue to invest in our nation's infrastructure and continue to deliver long-term value to our shareholders. With that, I'm going to conclude the formal remarks for today, and we'll open it up for questions. Let me send it back to you, operator.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw a question, simply press star one again. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening via speakerphone on your device, please pick up your handset to ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. Again, press star one to join the queue. Our first question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith (Managing Director and Research Analyst of Energy Research)

Hey, good morning, team. Good to chat with you guys. Happy Friday. Maybe just to break it down, a bit of a nuanced question, but it has implications here. You guys provide this timing through the year in terms of quarterly earnings. If you take the midpoints from those and look at what's implied, it kind of implies maybe high end or better if you look at implied third quarter and fourth quarter here. I don't mean to nitpick too much, but if you have any comment there, I'd love to read between the lines if there's anything you'd say.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Yeah, for sure.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith (Managing Director and Research Analyst of Energy Research)

Let us do it.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Yeah, what we had said, you know what we've said on the call here, both Chris made the point and I did as well, that we're going to come out on a GAAP basis above our guidance range. Above that $2.

That Julien?

Julien Dumoulin-Smith (Managing Director and Research Analyst of Energy Research)

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

All of a sudden, we had some strange music going on. Let me give you a little bit of detail there. As I said, we're going to come out above the GAAP guidance range. We had strong revenue in gas this winter with more gas usage than weather alone would have predicted. This year as well, we benefited from some tax items and the reversal of a regulatory reserve as a result of the Aqua Pennsylvania rate order. We had some insurance proceeds as well. Those were on the positive side. We've also had some headwinds this year. We've had the wet summer in several of our states, which has impacted us in Q2, and it's currently continuing to impact us in the early part of the third quarter. Interest rates, of course, remain higher than expected. Inflation is still impacting some areas like chemicals.

We're still in the investing stage on our lean initiative. Of course, it's still early in the year relative to the gas business. We've had half of last year's heating season. We still have November and December to go this year. Things can still move around. Thus, we're not being overly specific on where we'll land, but we're saying on a GAAP basis, it'll be above the guidance range.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith (Managing Director and Research Analyst of Energy Research)

Got it. Thank you very much. Just wanted to elaborate a little bit there. Just on the cash flow front, where are you trending on FFO through the year here? Specifically within that, how are you thinking about PFAS here and some of the tailwinds from the settlements and the timing for the collection of those, if you will?

Dan Schuller (CFO)

You'll see me touch on those in pieces. Our focus really for this year is to be above that 12% downgrade threshold. Ideally, you know, put some distance in there, call it like a 12.2% target area. We've obviously been in close conversations with Moody's, and we'd like to see that negative outlook removed in early 2026 once they see full-year 2025 results. In terms of PFAS settlement dollars coming in and being helpful from a cash perspective, you'll see when we file the Q on Monday next week, we received just about $7.1 million in PFAS proceeds from those lawsuits already. We expect a number this year that's kind of in the $45 million to $46 million range in total.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith (Managing Director and Research Analyst of Energy Research)

Got it. All right. Excellent. Thank you. Appreciate that. You know what? I'll leave it there. I'll let him ask questions. Thank you and nice to be done. Good luck in Texas here.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Thanks, Julien.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Connors with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Hey, Ryan.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

Good morning.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Morning, Ryan.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

A couple of big-picture questions on Pennsylvania and then a housekeeping for you, Dan.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Sure.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

I know you're out of rates in Pennsylvania at the moment, but obviously, we have the new consumer advocate there. I assume your team watches other matters going on really closely. I'm curious whether you've been able to get any feel for the approach that he's going to take and how that'll differ from the prior consumer advocate. Secondly, I've been hearing some chatter about the Office of Small Business Advocate being tougher to get to the settlement table on various matters and, you know, maybe being the next fly in the ointment, if you will. I wondered if you had any perspective on that as well.

Colleen Arnold (President of Aqua Division)

Yeah, listen, I think our engagement with Darryl Lawrence and the OCA has been very positive. I would expect that Darryl and his team will continue to do their job as advocates for the customers and, you know, we'll do our job. I do think that there's maybe an enhanced desire in that group to figure things out, you know, put this puzzle together in a way that's constructive and that all parties feel like they've come out of it with a win, if you will, or at least not with a loss. I do expect a more constructive relationship there at the OCA, and that's been our observation so far. You know, listen, the Small Business Advocate, she has a role as well. These are statutory parties, and they've got their priorities. I would say this: the Advocate has been very open to conversation.

She's visited us here at the company in Bryn Mawr, and she has been open to conversation on all the topics. Listen, I'm hopeful that we can have constructive relationships with all of the advocates, and that's been our experience so far.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

Great. That's very helpful, Colleen.

Colleen Arnold (President of Aqua Division)

Thank you, Chris.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

On the fair market value front, I've been hearing that there are some municipal sellers out there holding out for a price above the reasonable review ratio that was set in the reform to FMV in Pennsylvania. I guess the reasoning is that the PUC does have the ability to approve something above that level on a case-by-case basis. Is that something you've seen? Would you be willing to go take that risk over the cap, or would you want to just be staying kind of at or below the RRR?

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Yeah, you know, I can't say that we've seen that yet. I will say that on occasion, we might pay more than the RRR if we thought that, for example, there was huge rate base growth and we could grow into it. I'd like to think that the RRR is a target for both seller and buyer given the impact on rates, right? I think that was the Chairman and the Commission's primary goal here, to minimize impact on rates from transactions. You know, we're big believers that that's important. I'm not saying it would never happen, but we'd like to see both buyer and seller be closer to that RRR than above it.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

Got it. Okay. Very helpful. Dan, just on the tax rate, it really continues to kind of jump around, and at least for us, found it very difficult to model. Any perspective you can give us on where actually we should think about the landing zone there, not only for the balance of 2025, but even into next year? What's your advice here on trying to model that tax line? It really seems to be, you know, kind of a random spin.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

The way I think about that is for the full of 2025, think of a low single-digit benefit. For the whole of 2026 at this point, and of course, we haven't finished our budget or plan, but I'd think of that as a low single-digit expense. Think of a crossover at year-end from small benefits this year to small expense next year.

Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)

Got it. That's exactly what we were looking for. Thank you very much. Thanks, guys.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Yeah, for sure.

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

If you would like to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We have a question that comes from the line of Davis Sunderland with Baird. Your line is open.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Hey, Davis.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Good morning, Davis.

Davis Sunderland (Equity Research Associate)

Good morning, Chris. Good morning, Dan. Good morning, Colleen. Thank you for the time, and happy Friday. Two questions from me. Maybe first just jumping back, Chris, to your comments about the hyperscalers. Obviously, a lot of activity going on in Pennsylvania right now. Could you maybe just talk a bit more about the potential opportunity here and specifically the timeline for ultimately folding some of these into rate base? I guess I'm trying to square the stable customer count through 2027. Makes me think maybe beyond that would be the opportunity, but just wanted to clarify some of the thoughts there. I have one more.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, I think, listen, most of the hyperscalers that are talking are talking about really short-term turnaround. They want to build and get in service. As I said, I think Pennsylvania is a prime location for that, particularly Western Pennsylvania, where there was low-cost energy. I have to be careful in what I say. There are some NDAs in place, and I can't really talk much about the opportunities we're engaged with right now. I will say quick turnaround. I would also just maybe position it to think about, as you think about these things, maybe not all rate-based or all regulated, but some unregulated opportunities as well.

Davis Sunderland (Equity Research Associate)

That is super helpful. Thank you for that. Maybe the second one. Colleen, I appreciate the comments on PFAS, and thank you for that. Maybe just wanted to ask about this potential EPA push-out and the rule maybe coming out later this fall. I would assume no change to how you guys are thinking about it and plowing ahead with the upgrades, but maybe just more about what you're thinking the munis might do. Is this any change in maybe the acquisition pipeline if there's maybe a push-out in some opportunities related to that or any thoughts? Thanks, guys.

Colleen Arnold (President of Aqua Division)

Yeah, thanks for the question. As I said in my comments, there's no change to our program at all. You know, we're full steam ahead. I do think really in terms of the acquisition and the growth opportunities, there's no change there either. Most municipalities, you know, are going to wait till the last possible minute. They're just starting monitoring. This gives them a little bit more time to keep their head in the sand, but the opportunities are going to be there. Like I said, with our position, with the amount of experience we have with systems operating well, we're going to be really well positioned to help them.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Colleen, you know, just think about it. They might have a couple of more years to comply, but given the fact that we have a resource, a solution, maybe we can help accelerate some of those solutions with our filtration system. Who knows? Maybe that starts some conversation, would you agree?

Colleen Arnold (President of Aqua Division)

Yes. When I was at the American Water Works annual conference this year, generating a lot of interest, a lot coming up to me, the engineers coming up to me, asking about it. As they, like I said, get their heads out of the sand and know they have to comply, I know our solution is going to be a great fit.

Davis Sunderland (Equity Research Associate)

This is great. Thank you both. Appreciate the time, guys.

Dan Schuller (CFO)

Take care.

Operator (participant)

That concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Chris Franklin for closing remarks.

Chris Franklin (Chairman and CEO)

Thanks, folks. Appreciate you joining us today. As always, the team is ready to answer questions or follow-ups if you have them. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend.

Operator (participant)

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.