Watts Water Technologies - Q4 2015
February 17, 2016
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Operator (participant)
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Watts Water Technologies Fourth Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. To ask a question, please press Star, then one on your touch-tone telephone. If anyone should require assistance during the conference, please press Star, then zero. As a reminder, this conference may be recorded. I will now turn the call over to your host, Timothy MacPhee, Treasurer and Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Timothy M. MacPhee (Treasurer and VP of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Stephanie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our fourth quarter and full year 2015 earnings call. Joining me today are Bob Pagano, President and CEO, and Todd Trapp, our CFO. Bob will provide his overview for the year and address certain items related to EMEA. He will then discuss current market conditions. Todd will present the financial results for the fourth quarter and full year and offer our initial outlook for 2016. Finally, Bob will update you on our key organizational initiatives, and then we will open the call up to your, to your questions. The earnings press release and earnings call presentation we issued last evening includes some non-GAAP financial measures, and we have included in those documents the necessary reconciliations to GAAP measures. You can find a direct link to the webcast of today's conference call on our website at www.wattswater.com.
We will archive the webcast on the site for replay. I'd like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, to give you a better understanding of our operations, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Watts Water's publicly available filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Now, let me turn the call over to Bob Pagano.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thanks, Tim, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide three in the earnings call presentation, and I'll provide an overview of this past year and my initial thoughts on 2016. Even as we have said before, 2015 was a transition year for Watts, and I'm really proud of the progress we made on several initiatives that we identified as crucial to our future success. I'll touch upon these initiatives in just a moment, but first, let me briefly comment on the fourth quarter results. I was very pleased with our efforts and the adjusted results we delivered as we ended 2015. In the fourth quarter, we saw solid organic growth in the Americas, driven by accelerated growth in our base business and continued strong performance out of AERCO.
We saw some signs of stabilization in EMEA and continued softness in Asia Pacific business, given the uncertain macro backdrop in that region. Margins expanded nicely in the quarter, driven by our focus on profitable growth and continued cost savings initiatives. Cash flow continues to be a very good story for Watts, and Todd will provide more color on the financial results in just a few moments. One of our key initiatives is to reshape our portfolio, and we made significant strides in 2015. During the year, we divested almost $165 million in non-core, lower-margin products and effectively used our strong free cash flow to add higher-growth, higher-margin businesses like AERCO and Apex, our recent acquisition in New Zealand. We were able to monetize a portion of divested products through a sale that netted us $33 million.
Last fall, we entered into an agreement in principle to sell our manufacturing location in China, dedicated to non-core products. We expect this sale to be finalized in the first half of 2016. The AERCO acquisition was successfully integrated into Watts during 2015. We realized the synergies we had expected during our first year of ownership. Internally, we shared some best practices, and we were able to capitalize from the commercial market's continued migration toward high-efficiency condensing boilers and tankless water heater solutions. 2015 was a record sales year for AERCO, and the business also provided strong profits and cash flows. We expect that trend to continue in 2016. As an update on our restructuring efforts, we realized the savings in EMEA and in the U.S. that we had expected.
In the third quarter, we announced Phase Two of the Americas transformation, which addresses our infrastructure requirements to support the newly streamlined product portfolio. We expect to reduce our net operating footprint by approximately 30%. When completed in 2017, we expect our Phase Two efforts to reduce working capital, improve our planning process, realize savings from redundancy, and improve our customers' overall experience. We will continue to drive new and existing programs in 2016 and beyond to generate further operational efficiencies. We settled some legacy liabilities in 2015, including eliminating our pension obligation during the third quarter. The transfer of the liability to a third party reduces potential volatility in our future results. We expect that we will save approximately $3 million in annual pension costs beginning this year. We have also resolved two matters related to legacy product liability claims.
First, we reached an agreement in principle to settle two class action lawsuits. The suits relate to water heater connectors and FloodSafe connectors, two undifferentiated products that we have exited. The total settlement amount is $14 million, of which Watts is expected to pay approximately $4 million as our portion of the settlement. We recorded a $3.5 million pre-tax charge in the fourth quarter results. A second separate legal matter involving other legacy product liability claims related to undifferentiated products has also been resolved. We have taken a charge of approximately $2.5 million to cover these legacy costs. In total, the charge for both matters totals $6 million, and both charges were recorded as special items in the fourth quarter results. Finally, we have reenergized the company's commitment to the front end of the business, what you've heard me refer to as Commercial Excellence.
In 2015, we Voice of the Customer to understand what their wants and needs are and how we can better service them. We tested price elasticity in the marketplace, which is giving us feedback on potential product line profitability and helps us understand which products the markets perceive as value-added. In addition, we have launched a streamlined new product development process across the globe that we expect will drive innovation and to the market, be more efficient in the market. Investing in growth will drive top-line performance, and we are focused on enhancing our marketing, R&D, training, and customer engagement. We look forward to providing updates as we progress on this front. As you saw in our press release yesterday, we announced senior-level organizational changes related to the ongoing EMEA restructuring.
So if we move to slide four, let me talk about that in greater detail. Yesterday, we announced a new restructuring effort in EMEA. Our infrastructure costs in certain locations now outpace the market, which saw continued declines in 2015. We will be working through the proposed social plans with the Works Council over the next several months, with a goal of rightsizing the affected operations by the fourth quarter. Finalization and implementation of the plan is subject to completion of all legal requirements, including consultation with and receipt of advisory opinions from the relevant Works Councils. We expect the cost could approximate $8 million, and we should realize annual savings of approximately $3.5 million in 2017. Savings this year will be minimal, given the time expected to obtain the needed approvals.
Todd will talk more about the goodwill impairment charge we took in EMEA. I have asked Munish Nanda and Elie Melhem, our respective presidents for the Americas and Asia Pacific, to also assume oversight for EMEA. Mario Sanchez, our prior EMEA president, will be leaving the company to explore new opportunities, and we all wish him well. Munish will oversee Europe, including Eastern Europe, while Elie will assume responsibilities for the Middle East and Africa. We believe these changes will simplify our organization and allow us to take a more global business view. We are driving One Watts mindset with a Voice of the Customer, promoting global new product development, and initiating more cross-selling opportunities, both within EMEA and around the world. We are concentrating on better product, channel, and account management to help drive top line for Watts.
Now on to the market, so please turn to slide five. Let me share some macro data for 2015 and 2016. First, we expect to see continued macro growth in the U.S., although at a more moderate pace. GDP is forecast to grow at approximately 2.75% to 2.7%, about the same as 2015. We think GDP is a proxy for growth in our repair and replacement business. Based on information we derive from IHS, total residential spend in 2016 is forecast to increase high single digits, and commercial, office, and institutional structure spends are forecasted to increase in the low to mid-single digits. In the Eurozone, the overall outlook is stable, with GDP growing at about 1.9%, nominally higher than 2015.
IHS is forecasting flat or low single-digit growth for both residential and commercial construction spending in our larger markets. So we are hopeful that the long-awaited stabilization is realized in Europe during 2016. Emerging markets will remain mixed, with GDP and construction spending in Russia both forecasted to be negative, although not as bad as in 2015. Overall, GDP in the Middle East is expected to grow nominally in 2016. Notably, we have seen recent project delays due to the continuing oil saga, and that will likely continue to have an impact on both the Middle East and Russia as 2016 progresses. In China, GDP declined in 2015 and is expected to decelerate again this year to 6.3%.
Residential spending is expected to be negative again in 2016, with low single-digit growth predicted for commercial construction spending. Regionally, Asia Pacific GDP growth, which includes China, is expected to accelerate modestly in 2016. Overall, the macro data suggests our markets will remain mixed and somewhat uncertain. I'll now turn the call over to Todd, who will review our results for the quarter and full year and offer our initial outlook for 2016. Todd?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone. I'm on slide 6, which shows the fourth quarter results. Overall, I would say that we were pleased with our top-line performance in the quarter, as we delivered sales of $358 million, which was up 4% organically, our strongest growth quarter this quarter. On a reported basis, our top line declined by about 5%, which was really driven by two factors. First was foreign exchange, mainly related to the weaker euro, which negatively impacted sales quarter-over-quarter by roughly $18 million or 5%. The second factor was the negative impact from the exit of undifferentiated products, a result of our focus on reshaping our portfolio, which reduced sales by roughly $30 million or 8%. These two headwinds were offset to some degree by the addition of AERCO, as well as organic growth in Americas....
Regionally, organic sales increased 7% in Americas, 1% in EMEA, and were down about 6% in Asia Pacific, and I'll provide more color on the regional performance in a few minutes. Adjusted operating profit of $35 million increased a little over 1%, which translated into an adjusted operating margin of 9.9%, up 60 basis points versus Q4 of last year. Favorable sales mix and continued benefits from productivity and restructuring actions more than offset incremental SG&A investments. As we've communicated, our SG&A costs are high due to the addition of AERCO and increases in stock compensation, pension, compliance, and other costs. Overall, I would say we were pleased with the margin performance in the quarter. Adjusted EPS of $0.59 was about 2% better than prior year.
Adjusted EPS included a negative impact of $0.05 in the quarter for foreign exchange and a $0.06 headwind associated with the exit of undifferentiated products, which more than offset the 3% positive contribution from AERCO. The effective tax rate in the quarter was 33.2%, which is up over 400 basis points from the prior year, primarily due to the mix of earnings in the quarter being more heavily weighted to the US. The impact of the higher tax rate was mostly offset by below-the-line favorability from FX transactional gains during the quarter. So net-net, a minimal impact on EPS. On a separate note, in the quarter, we booked a non-cash impairment charge of $130 million in the EMEA reporting unit. As you know, our EMEA business has struggled of late, given the tough macroeconomic environment.
Given that as a backdrop, we took a prudent view of the prospects for the reporting unit as part of our annual strategic planning process in Q4. The projected cash flows did not support the overall goodwill valuation, therefore, the reason for the charge in the quarter. This charge does not affect our liquidity, any of our bank covenants, nor our ongoing EMEA strategy. So let's move to slide 11 in the Americas results. Sales for the fourth quarter were $233 million, down 2% on a reported basis, but up 7% on an organic basis. In Q4, we continued to provide transition services to Sioux Chief, resulting in approximately $9 million of revenue associated with the exit of undifferentiated products, which was incremental to our previous guidance. We expect to finalize the transition services by mid-Q1 of 2016.
Excluding AERCO, our organic sales for the base Americas business grew 4% during the quarter. I think it is important to note that we did receive a sizable stocking order in December from one of our larger customers that equates to roughly a point of growth in the quarter. With that said, we did see growth accelerate in the second half of 2015, as we expected, and feel good about how we exited the year. We saw organic growth in the wholesale channel, driven by backflow and drains products. We also saw growth in our specialty channels, including instrumentation products and products that we sell into the food service end markets. AERCO continues to perform well, delivering another quarter of double-digit growth, driven by strength in boilers, water heaters, and its aftermarket business, as it continues to execute well in the commercial marketplace.
Adjusted operating profit for the quarter was $33 million, a 16% increase year-over-year. Operating margin expanded 220 basis points to 14.3%. The margin expansion was due to favorable mix, including the impact from the exit of undifferentiated products and continued strong productivity. Partially offsetting these positive factors was higher anticipated SG&A expenses, including personnel, product liability, and compliance costs. This is the second consecutive quarter that the Americas delivered strong operating results. Now turning to slide eight, let's review EMEA's results. Sales for the fourth quarter were $113 million, down $14 million or 11% on a reported basis, but up 1% on a constant currency basis. Foreign exchange accounted for $15 million of the sales decline.
We saw growth in water and plumbing, driven by stronger Middle East sales, which more than offset some softness in our drains product business. As you know, the product business can be quite lumpy, and we've encountered some delays, especially in the Nordic region, relating to offshore activity and related funding for construction projects in this area. Geographically, we saw some stabilization in our major markets, with growth in France and Italy, while sales into Germany were flat for the quarter. We continue to see declines in Eastern Europe, which was down 23% in total, driven primarily by continued weakness in the Russian market, which was down over 50% in the quarter for us. Middle East sales were up 13% in the fourth quarter and 37% for the year, driven by valves and water quality products.
As we progressed over the course of the year, we did see some slowdown in this region, which we attribute to the decline in oil prices, which are delaying some projects. This is something we will watch closely as we enter into 2016. Adjusted operating profit for the quarter was $10 million, a decrease of $3 million or 20%, which translated into an adjusted operating margin rate of approximately 9%. Approximately half of the operating profit decrease was due to foreign exchange headwinds. Sales mix and some pricing headwinds more than offset the benefits from our prior transformation and restructuring efforts. And as Bob mentioned, we've announced additional restructuring activities that will better rightsize our cost structure to current market conditions. Moving to Slide nine, let's take a look at Asia Pacific's results for the fourth quarter.
Asia Pacific sales were $12 million, a 6% decline over the prior year. We saw a decline in valve sales in China as we continue to see project delays and fewer larger-sized orders. We are seeing distributors ordering smaller quantities, more on a just-in-time basis, as concerns over the general state of the construction markets in China are weighing heavily on customer decisions. We continue to see strong growth outside of China, roughly 9%, driven by demand for our water and plumbing products in areas such as Australia and Southeast Asia. Sales from Apex contributed roughly $1 million in the quarter. Adjusted operating profit of $0.7 million was down about $1 million versus last year, which translated into our adjusted operating margins of 6%. A few items were driving the year-over-year margin reduction.
First, and consistent with last quarter, due to the product rationalization in the U.S., intercompany sales declined by close to $20 million, or 50%, as compared to last year, as our China operations lost the benefit of the intercompany profit and plant absorption. Secondly, we have maintained our leadership infrastructure within Asia Pacific to support our future growth opportunities in this region. So in summary, we experienced a lower-than-expected top line for Asia, given uncertainty in the China market and the resultant delays. Our margins, as expected, trended down. So now I'm on Slide 10. Let me speak briefly about the full year results. Sales for the full year were $1.47 billion, down $46 million or 3% on a reported basis, and up 1% organically.
Foreign exchange, driven by the euro and Canadian dollar, accounted for approximately $100 million, or 6% of the sales decline. The net positive impact from the acquisition of AERCO, offset by the exit of undifferentiated products, accounted for an incremental $40 million or 3% of growth. Organically, Americas and Asia Pacific sales increased approximately 3% and 7%, respectively, which more than offset EMEA's 3% decline. Also, you should note that AERCO was up double digits for the year. Operating margins for 2015 were flat at 10.1%. Lower volume and incremental SG&A headwinds were offset by favorable product mix, strong productivity, and continued rationalization and restructuring savings in both the Americas and EMEA. Adjusted full-year EPS of $2.41 was down about $0.10, or 4%, versus prior year.
Headwinds from foreign exchange and the exit of undifferentiated products negatively impacted full-year earnings by $0.42. These two significant headwinds more than offset the positive impacts from AERCO, which contributed approximately $0.26 for the year. Free cash flow continues to be a great story for Watts, and I'll provide more color on that topic now as I turn to Slide 11. Adjusted free cash flow was up 17% on a year-over-year basis. A big driver of the improvement is strong working capital performance. We increased inventory turns 6% in 2015, which led to an operating reduction in inventory of over $20 million. We also had a decrease in our accounts receivables days outstanding, which drove $13 million of cash inflow into 2015. So we continue to make strides in working capital management, and we see further opportunities ahead.
CapEx increased 18% in 2015, mostly related to the addition of AERCO, as well as some incremental investment opportunities in our plants to support our growth and productivity initiatives. Asset sale proceeds from Sioux Chief was $33 million, which helped fund the pension settlement in Q3. We also spent approximately $21 million to purchase 80% of Apex in the fourth quarter of 2015. Our stock buyback program remains on track as we repurchased 229,000 shares in the quarter at a cost of $12.6 million. For the full year, we purchased 813,000 shares for $44.6 million. I also wanted to mention that last week, we restructured our existing credit agreement in anticipation of paying off private placement debt that is coming due in April.
The new agreement consists of a $300 million term loan that matures in 2021, and a new $500 million revolver that is committed also through 2021. This new facility provides us with ample liquidity and flexibility as we prioritize capital allocation in the future.... So in summary, free cash flow continues to be a bright spot for the organization, and we expect that trend to continue going forward. Finally, turning to slide 12, I'd like to discuss our 2016 outlook. Starting with our sales forecast for the year, we estimate that Americas will grow in the low- to mid-single digits as we expect many of our traditional end markets, including commercial and residential, to continue to grow, albeit at a slower, slightly slower pace versus 2015.
For EMEA, we are forecasting sales to be flat to slightly down. We saw some stabilization in Q4, however, we remain cautious given the broader macros. In Eastern Europe, mainly Russia, still remains a concern for us. The business environment is challenging, and we will continue to be deliberate and focused on profitable growth. In Asia Pacific, we expect organic sales to be up high single digits this coming year. We expect that the uncertainty we are experiencing now in the markets may continue through the first half of the year, with more growth in the back half as we introduce new products in the China marketplace. Overall, Watts sales are estimated to grow low single digits for 2016. A couple other items worth mentioning.
We expect sales will be reduced by approximately $100 million from 2015 levels related to the product rationalization. The drop-through on these lost sales should be mid-single digits. The reduction in sales should be more pronounced in the first three quarters, approximately $30 million per quarter, and then less in Q4. Apex should provide approximately $11 million of incremental sales for the Asia Pacific business at mid-teens operating margins. Conversely, as communicated, Asia Pacific's margins should be impacted in 2016 by lost volume from intercompany sales due to the product rationalization. We expect incremental transformation and restructuring savings in 2016 of approximately $10 million, half realized in the Americas, and the other half realized in EMEA.
Consistent with our prior communication, we plan on taking some of the restructuring savings and reinvesting back into the business in the areas of selling and marketing, training, R&D, and systems to help accelerate our growth trajectory. We are targeting investments in the $5 million to $7 million range for the year. We are also expecting to have approximately $3 million of stock comp headwinds associated with new leadership replacement awards and a change in the grant date of our annual stock awards from Q3 to Q1, to more closely align to our strategic plan and our compensation strategy. There is also a future tax benefit associated with this grant date change. Despite these headwinds, we expect to deliver strong margin expansion in 2016. Finally, a few more maintenance items.
We expect capital spend for the year of between $35 million and $40 million, and we look to invest in our manufacturing and training facilities, which will help support future growth and productivity. Depreciation and amortization should range from $52 million to $55 million. The effective tax rate should be between 32% and 34% for the year. And finally, share buybacks are estimated to be in the $40 million to $50 million range, executed ratably over the year. And now, let me turn the call over to Bob before moving to Q&A. Bob?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thanks, Todd. Please turn to slide 13, and let me update you on our scorecard of top priorities for the organization. First, we have addressed key positions around the globe. Certainly, the skill set of the management team has been broadened over the last year and a half. We have added experienced people from ITT, Danaher, Honeywell, and Johnson Controls. We have realigned responsibilities when we believed it was best for the organization. Talent evaluation is an ongoing process, so we are always looking to improve our overall skill sets. We are expanding our review to the next levels in the company to ensure we have the needed bench strength to support and carry out our strategic goals. The EMEA transformation and restructuring initiatives are on track. The team has made steady progress in driving savings throughout Europe, realizing $8 million in savings in 2015.
Unfortunately, their effects have been more than offset by the overall market downturn. We continue to assess our infrastructure, as evidenced by our announcement of the additional restructuring actions we will undertake this Phase One of the Americas, Asia Pacific transformation effort has gone very well. We finalized the sale of the U.S. assets, identified and executed on sourcing initiatives, and we expect to complete the sale of our China manufacturing plant in the first half of 2016. Phase One will allow our key commercial resources to focus on a more profitable customer and product portfolio that will drive innovation and is more solutions oriented. Phase Two is focusing on consolidating and optimizing our Americas operational footprint to better support the needs of our customers and improve our cost structure.
We have announced the closure of three facilities already, and we expect other site closures will be announced as the year progresses. We are opening a new state-of-the-art distribution facility with a goal of meeting and exceeding our customers' delivery expectations while streamlining the distribution process and saving costs. We plan on making incremental investments in reinvigorating customer training, R&D, and our new product development pipeline.... We are also investing in a new state-of-the-art training center at our North Andover headquarters, which we expect will be in service during the first half of this year. We will use the facility to train reps, distributors, customers, engineers, and employees on our latest product offerings and educate them on how our products can work together. Finally, we'll continue to look for every opportunity to continuously improve the performance in our company.
We are increasingly working together as one organization between businesses, countries, and regions to provide our customers with value-added products and solutions. We have our strategic priorities as an organization, and we are on track to complete what we said we would do. We continue to build momentum within the organization. So let me briefly summarize. 2015 was a transition year for Watts. We started making the people, process, and cultural changes necessary to achieve our long-term strategic goals. We did what we said we would do in 2015, delivering on the commitments and building a foundation for future growth. In longer term, we expect to reap the benefits of our efforts through profitable growth and delivering on the mid-teen operating margins that we aspire to within the next five years. So with that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. To ask a question, please press star then one on your touchtone telephone. If your question has been answered and you wish to remove yourself from the queue, you may press the pound key. Our first question comes from Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood. Your line is open.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Great, thank you for taking my question. I've got a couple. First off, just wanted to clarify, kind of housekeeping, Todd, on the revenue outlook for 2016. You've got the low single-digit organic growth assumption in there, but you got the $100 million in portfolio realignment. So just to clarify, that does mean we're kind of expecting on an absolute terms, another down year on the top line for 2016. Is that? Am I reading that appropriately?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yes, you are.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Okay.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yes, you are.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Okay. And then the other thing is, Bob, you mentioned it, some adjustments to the innovation program, and that caught my ear. Can you talk a little bit about kind of the state of the R&D program right now at Watts and what the changes are gonna be made there and, you know, what they're intended to accomplish in terms of the innovation and whether or not you intend to issue any metrics like a vitality index or something like that to help us measure that progress?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. So, yes, let me update you on that. So first of all, we surveyed and looked, and we had multiple, many new product development processes. In the fourth quarter, we rolled out a consistent one process throughout Watts, so it's One Watts process. And I would say our product pipeline is mixed. I think, there's certain areas where it's very rich and robust, and AERCO, I would say, is the prime example of that. But there's other areas, honestly, where we've been milking some of the businesses, and we really need to focus on that. So internally, we have put in product vitality indexes. We've revamped everything in a key focus, including a once-a-month growth day that we have, that we're talking to each of the businesses and looking at their metrics, et cetera.
So we'll begin looking at providing additional information on that, but it was an area that I felt we needed to reinvigorate. I think most of our processes were acquiring new product development versus internally developing it ourselves. So also, we were a lot of our new product development focus was on converting when we went to the unleaded product. So now we're freeing up our resources to really focus on Voice of the Customer R&D versus engineering-developed R&D. So it's a shift in mindset there. So we're very excited about the opportunities, and our team is really excited about it.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Great. That's helpful. Thanks for your time this morning.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from David Rose with Wedbush Securities. Your line is open.
David Rose (Analyst)
Good morning. Thank you for taking my call as well. Just a couple quick ones. You know, the product rationalization in Q4, the guidance was $40 million to $45 million in Q3 versus the $29 million number. Can you just go over briefly what changed? Were there fewer products, or was it a function of timing?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah, David, this is Todd. So I'll say sales from the undifferentiated products in Q4 were down $30 million versus prior year, which was a little bit better than what we previously guided. I think there's two main reasons for the difference. First is Sioux Chief requested that we continue to support the customer transition through the quarter. And I think the second thing is that the burn down of certain DIY products just have taken a little bit longer than we anticipated. So both these transitions, we expect to be completed in Q1 of 2016, and so we expect to have approximately, I'd say, roughly $3 million to $5 million more of undifferentiated sales in Q1 that were not planned.
David Rose (Analyst)
So the 30 per quarter, that will probably be weighted a little bit more in the first quarter by that $3 million. Is that fair?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
That's fair.
David Rose (Analyst)
Okay. And then, as we start to rationalize footprint a little bit more, and you also talk about an additional distribution center. Does that imply that you're gonna need a little bit more inventory as a buffer? And, what does that imply in terms of, you know, progress on free cash flow conversion, next year?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. So David, as we indicated, we were gonna build inventory, so we're building right now. I mean, our focus is on, you know, customer service and not losing any market share during the training. So we believe we'll be adding about $20 million over the year, but then bringing that down in the second half of the year. So, the inventory build is focused, let's call it, in the first half of the year, and we bleed it down as we start implementing this. So really, the focus is on keeping our customers and optimizing our performance there. But David, we still, David, we still believe that we can get to a 100% conversion.
David Rose (Analyst)
Okay, that's helpful. And then lastly, I'll go back in the queue, given you know, the free cash flow is still very healthy, you've talked about M&A, certainly adding higher margin products. Is there any interest in, you highlighted the stronger performers in the group, instrumentation and food and beverage. Is there an interest moving in that direction versus traditional plumbing?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
David, we look at all opportunities, so we don't specify, you know, because as we know, we never know when acquisitions are gonna happen and what's available. So we continue to look in a disciplined way, looking at opportunities and understanding how strategically, overall they fit. We also look at where their strength is, where they're located, you know, what areas of the countries. There are certain areas that we don't wanna participate, you know. So again, I think we take all of that into consideration, and we're not afraid at looking at small adjacency moves. So, everything's open game.
David Rose (Analyst)
Okay. That's fair. Thank you, Bob.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Kevin Maczka with BB&T Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
Thanks. Good morning.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Hey, Kevin. Good morning.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
So strong organic in the Americas in Q4. I'm just. I have a question about the guidance here and what the scenario is, whereby we get to the high end of that mid-single digit outlook. Because if commercial's moderating, I think you characterized that as improving last quarter. To get up to that high end, do we have to see that reaccelerate again? Or, Bob, does some of these new product Commercial Excellence initiatives get us there?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
I think Commercial Excellence helps us get there. I think we've done a nice job of understanding where our strength is, where our opportunities are, and, you know, our account management, our understanding of customer share of wallet and what our fair share is. I think we've done a nice job of really understanding the market and where we're at. So, you know, we're cautiously optimistic and our teams are driving for it.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
Got it. And, shifting over to price, it looks like you called that out as helping a bit in the Americas, hurting a bit in EMEA. These elasticity testing that you did, Bob, can you just talk a little bit more about what that means, and what have you modeled in that organic growth outlook for price?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah, so each region's differently, but certainly we continue to rationalize our product portfolio. You know, we had, you know, over 50,000 products in North America. We got rid of about 12,000 of them, and we still have opportunity to, let's call it, reduce our broad portfolio and, and make sure we test price elasticity. So we believe that was about a, you know, 0.5% negative tailwind for us in the first quarter. We'll continue to do that. You know, that effort was really, we saw a lot of it in Q3 and some in Q4, so we'll see some of that in Q1 and Q2 of next year, probably in the 0.5-point range. When I look at price, price inside of North America was probably, you know, about 1%.
But when you look in Europe, you know, pricing is not good. It's, you know, a lot of pressure on pricing. Same in China right now, a lot of pressure on pricing right now. So we're assuming basically flat pricing in that, and we'll see some moderate pricing in North America, but not significant pricing as we saw this year as we aggressively tested price elasticity.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
Got it. And just finally, to be clear on the restructuring, the $10 million incremental savings in 2016 is a gross number, not a net number. Is the net number closer to $6 million?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
I think it's actually no, it's the $10 million is gross. Right.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
Right. But there's some offsetting spend that go, that you net against that, correct?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Other than the investments, we're taking some of those savings and investing, as Todd talked about, when we gave guidance in his last slide. So that's, you know, we're taking some of all the savings that we've been generating, about $10 million of savings incremental this year in 2015, 2016, and investing a portion of that for the long term in our business.
Kevin Maczka (Analyst)
Got it. And just finally, on the restructuring in general, I think this is maybe the sixth phase of restructuring we've talked about. There's been two others in EMEA, in 2013 and in 2015. I know there's the plan sort of evolve as you continue and make progress, but should we be expecting further iterations of this, or have we kind of done the big structural things now with this new phase that you intend to do?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
So Kevin, let's go back, and particularly, I think you're talking about the EMEA restructuring. But really, when you look at it, the major restructuring we had done prior to this was, you know, really before what I call the geopolitical things happened, in particular, Russia, Ukraine, Greece, all of that. So there was always an assumption that the business would grow, and now we don't believe that's the case. So when we've been flat, you know, I think in the last eight quarters, only two, two of those quarters had, you know, organic growth, and the last one here was minimal. So we're gonna continue to look at our cost structure.
When you look at that, overall, you know, I believe, you know, I think there's opportunities, but remember, it's difficult and very costly to restructure facilities in Europe, so it always has to make sense and, you know, from an overall return on invested capital point of view. So we'll be monitoring that, but, you know, I never say never, but we'll continue to monitor and do the best thing we can for our business.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
... Okay, thank you.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Jim Giannakaros with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
Good morning, everyone.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Good morning, Jim.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
In North America, that operating margin of 14.3, very impressive. You guys cited strong base business and obviously AERCO growth. Despite the seasonally softer period, can you just get into a little a more granular conversation as to exactly what drove that? Was it the unwinding of non-core costing less, given the pace of wind down, or just getting better price than expected? Or was it, you know, that large stocking order that that Todd mentioned earlier?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
So Jim, as you can imagine, there's a lot of puts and takes. I would say the exit of the undifferentiated products probably drove about a little over 100 basis points of margin expansion in Q4 in the Americas year-over-year. But, you know, as Bob mentioned, they're getting-- they're seeing some nice pricing that's helping drive some of that margin, as well as just continued nice performance on productivity. So sourcing and plant and VA/VE projects, they're just seeing some of that. So I would say it's a combination of the exit of the undifferentiated product, some favorable pricing, you know, obviously good stuff on productivity as well as volume. We are seeing the volume. We are seeing, you know, as I mentioned, 4% organic volume growth.
If you back out that one order, you know, 3%. So it's a, it's a combination, I, I would say, of those four factors.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
Okay, thanks. And does that elevated margin hold into Q1 and then improve from there during 2016? I'm sorry, Todd, I missed the impact from the wind down to be factored in 2016 that you mentioned with the margin.
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
I believe that the margin rates as we head into 2016 will continue to hold at these levels.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
Okay. And then, as far as your growth expectations, I'm sorry if Kevin covered this in his question right before me. I may have missed it. But, can you differentiate between what you're seeing in residential versus non-residential, as far as just trying to think about how your growth expectations all in for this year are slightly lower than what you saw in 2015?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. When you look at it, I mean, I think you have to take all the different things. We're still doing the product portfolio rationalization in the products that we're still staying in. I also look at residential and commercial, as I said earlier, I think they're gonna be positive for us. You know, we gained some momentum in the second half of this year. We hope to keep it. You know, our overall focus on gaining market share and driving increased share of wallet is real important on this. So, you know, I think there's opportunities. I like the markets of both residential and commercial in North America. I think where the softness in residential is really in the EMEA. That is a headwind.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
Got it. And one last one, if I may, just some of the below-the-line items, probably for Todd or Tim. Can you give us some guidance on the quarterly or annual interest expense that we should be modeling for 2016, and that other income line that seems to bounce around a bit?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Yeah, I would say in terms of... On the interest line, I'd say we'll probably see a little bit of a slight benefit, you know, maybe $200,000 on a year-over-year basis on the interest line. And then I believe the other line, we did see some favorable foreign exchange gains in 2015 of approximately $2 million related to affiliated loans and U.S. denominated accounts. And so I think we'll see, maybe potentially see a little benefit in 2016, but just not to that level. So I think that's the little bit of a headwind as we head into 2016.
James Giannakouros (Analyst)
Thank you.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc. Your line is open.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Hey, guys. Good morning.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Good morning, Jeff.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Hey, so, just wanted to come back to Europe. You know, it just seems like given, you know, given the sales decline and yet the $8 million of savings, that the decrementals are still pretty ugly. And I'm just trying to understand a little bit better, you know, how FX transaction plays in and how, you know, how bad pricing really is. And, you know, do we see any, you know, stabilization of some of those headwinds into 2016?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. So, let me try to take that. So when we look at that, I think pricing is difficult, especially in the OEM channel. I think with some of the commodity price decreases, they're all looking for those savings, and the volume is short. I mean, we did a large business in Russia that was a very profitable part of our business, and that's, as Todd said, it was down 50% in the quarter. So, you know, we're starting to get into what I call, easier comps, because overall, Russia was down significantly. We believe it'll probably continue to go down as we, you know, into 2016, but certainly at, not at the magnitude that we saw from 2014 to 2015. So I think, we have a mix there.
The other thing is our drains business in Europe is very profitable. In the first half, we had a nice backlog of projects that shipped in the first and second quarter of 2015, and that backlog started to drop, and we didn't have that in Q3 and Q4. As we enter 2016, we don't have that strong backlog because offshore oil platforms and construction related to the countries that where, you know, oil is predominantly causing spending, has slowed down. So we've seen in our drain business, that project business has come down quite a bit. So that mix of business really impacted our overall profitability in those regions. So that's really what was driving it. We believe we will see some stabilization in some of these areas.
You know, out of the gate, you know, if I look in the, you know, what we're seeing in January, it's right in line with our expectations here from a, you know, so no, no surprises there. But, you know, I think it's an opportunity for us to also begin refocusing on growth in that region. And I think that's some of the initiatives. We're gonna share some of our best practices that we've been doing inside of North America and leverage that inside of EMEA. I think we are more internally focused in EMEA, executing all these restructuring principal company initiatives. And I really want us to look at how do we drive growth, in particular, in the drains and our electronics businesses, which are our, you know, stronger businesses. So that's kind of how I look at EMEA.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Okay, so it sounds like the drains, you know, headwinds continue, Russia continues. How do you see kind of an end to the pricing pressure? Is some of the lower commodity inputs kind of, you know, now built in?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
I think we're gonna see some pricing issues in the first. We're assuming flat, so we're gonna try to get price where we can. But net-net, our assumptions are flat, you know, pricing.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Okay. Then I just wanna go back to... So transformation spending, I think you said $10, $5 in Europe, $5 in North America. Then, Todd, did you say $5 to $7 of investments as an offset?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Correct. Yes, 5 to 7, making investments-
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Okay. So you're reinvesting roughly half of that?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Correct.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
And then-
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Yeah.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Okay, how should we think about, you know, pension savings and, you know, the corporate expense line, given some of the investments?
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Yeah. So I'd say the overall corporate expense line, I would say, is relatively flat on a year-over-year basis. So we are seeing some benefit from the pension in there, but we're also seeing some higher stock comp hitting that corporate line, as well as some of our investments. Something like a Hyperion would be hitting that line as well. So I think corporate costs from a year-over-year perspective are relatively flat.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Okay. And then just to sneak one more in here. Asia margins, I mean, they were running in the teens, and, you know, this quarter was 6%, and you did mention the dropdown. And what's—given the new structure of that business, what's, you know, what's the right run rate into 2016 on margins and what's, you know, what's maybe the longer term, you know, margin run rate for that business? Thanks.
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
Yeah, I would say from an Asia Pacific, I'd say that the way I look at it is, I'd say high single-digit margins to maybe low double-digit margins would be the way I look at it and model it going forward. But I think in 2016, it would be more that high single-digit margins.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, remember, Jeff, that they had all the benefit of the intercompany markup, and we really didn't start exiting undifferentiated products until the third and fourth quarter. So that's where you started seeing the heavy hit on margins. So when you look at Q1 and Q2, compared to last year, it's gonna be a big shift downward, more in the Q4 type range.
Todd A. Trapp (CFO)
We're maintaining our management infrastructure there.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Exactly, exactly.
Jeffrey Hammond (Analyst)
Thanks, guys.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Kevin Bennett with Sterne Agee. Your line is open.
Kevin Bennett (Analyst)
Hey there. Good morning, gentlemen.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Good morning.
Kevin Bennett (Analyst)
Bob, first question, you mentioned in the slides that you saw some softness in industrial in the Americas, and I was wondering if you could elaborate on that a little bit.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
I don't remember saying softness in the industrial. What we did see is in EMEA, we saw some timing of projects related to the oil and gas sector, related to our drains business. So that project was lumpy. We also saw some softness in projects in EMEA, related to, let's call our normal Russian business, where we, you know, some projects are slowing down, so, and in the Middle East. So those were the, let's call it, more industrial-ish type markets that we play in. But, you know, it's not a significant amount, but it's concerning because the orders that we're getting in the Middle East were big, and they were driven by, let's call it, oil and gas funding. And now that that's slowed down a little bit, we're seeing that project activity just get pushed out.
And so delays in the projects, they're pushing them out. They're not canceled, but they're just moving them out.
Kevin Bennett (Analyst)
Gotcha. Okay. And then in, in the Americas, you know, I know a couple of people asked about this with regards to kind of your outlook for 2016, and I, I'm wondering, you've talked about growth, I guess, in both resi and non-res moderating, and I'm, I'm speaking to the Americas here, moderating in 2016. And I'm wondering if that's just based on kind of overall market forecast, or are you guys seeing that in your, in your order patterns? Or I guess, what kind of makes you think we're gonna see that, in 2016?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
It's more of the market. I mean, it's the discussion in the market that it's slowing down. But, you know, I think we, we'll gain more than our fair share of growth in those markets.
Kevin Bennett (Analyst)
Got it. Okay. And then last question for me. Just wondering, Bob, what, what was the rationale behind the management changes in EMEA? And I guess, is this a permanent change for these two guys, or are you looking for a new head of EMEA, or what are you thinking about there?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
No, it's a permanent change. I mean, really, you know, as we continue to look at driving One Watts culture, you know, we make similar products around the world. And, you know, when we had our growth innovation meeting earlier this year, it really opened my eyes to, we're just not sharing knowledge and technology, and I think we've done a nice job of breaking down the silos inside of Europe, but we just really got to break down the silos around the world. So it's really focused on how do we get the teams to work together? How do we have more global platforms? And how do we drive synergies and share best practices? And the best way to do that is to have overall similar leadership, get everybody working on the same plans together, and just working together more.
So that's really the focus, and given the low growth environment in Europe, we just couldn't support the infrastructure costs. We needed to do something different.
Joseph Giordano (Analyst)
... Gotcha, that makes sense. All right, thank you.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Jim Foung with Gabelli & Company. Your line is open.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
All right. Good morning, guys. Good quarter.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Hey, Jim. Thanks, Jim.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
So I just want, yeah, just pick up on that last question on EMEA. So as you dismantle the infrastructure there, will we see, like, cost savings, you know, as you eliminate the back office and supporting staff?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Jim, it's too early. We just made that decision, but a lot of the infrastructure we put in principal company is for shared services functions. So we've already had that in our overall European transformation. So really, you know, there's just one individual here, and that's been baked into our overall outlook that we talked about earlier.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
Okay. And then, you guys now have a good portfolio of lead-free products, and just curious with the situation with Flint, Michigan, are you seeing any demand pickup from municipalities regarding lead-free products over this concern?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
You know, we're seeing, we're quoting a lot of products, in particular, our water quality. The lead-free discussion, we continue to promote, you know, our products and availability there, but I wouldn't see a massive increase in business as a result of this. But it allows us to continue to promote, you know, our safe products. So, I think, it's a nice opportunity for everybody to understand the importance of, you know, clean water, and, you know, I think it's waking everyone up in this issue. So, and we're glad this issue is coming up. We're not happy about what happened to the people, but really, the concern over, you know, safe drinking water is really important.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
Okay. Then, when you began the transformation in North America, you talked about getting 125 basis point improvement in your margin this year. Now that you've Phase One, you know, could you just kind of update us? You know, are you? Should we see any adjustment in your margin up or downward for this year and next year?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
I mean, I think, Jim, what we, what we committed to is that it was gonna be about 100-plus, 100 basis point-plus margin improvement, and I think that's, you know, what we're, what we're seeing right now, and that's what we're forecasting for 2016.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
Okay, so there's no change to that target?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
No. No, no, no change in that.
James A. Foung (Analyst)
Okay, very good. Look forward to seeing you guys next week then.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Good. Yeah, thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Ryan Cass with Seaport Global Securities. Your line is open.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Hey, Ryan.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
If I could just go back to EMEA. I think you've talked about the incremental investments and then the transformation savings there. Will you be timing the investments with the savings, or could you just give a little color on the cadence of those investments?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. So if you think about the $5 million to $7 million that we referenced, Ryan, I would say probably half of that is committed right now, and the other half is something that we'll be, you know, being very prudent. We'll be watching it very closely to make sure that we see the top line growth before we actually make that incremental investment. So it's something that we're gonna be very smart about as we head into 2016.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Okay, great. And the last one for me, you know, you guys have talked about, you know, a 30% net footprint reduction across the business, and I think there have been some, you know, investments that have maybe offset that. Could you perhaps talk about what the gross footprint reduction would look like, and then, maybe take a swing at what the net footprint reduction will be, you know, once you take some of these actions, in the EMEA region that you've got planned so far? Thanks.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
No, the 30% in the Americas is the net. That is the net reduction we plan based on, you know, the results of all our transformation efforts. So yes, we'll be, you know, having an incremental distribution center, but that was factored in our overall 30% square footage. As we look in EMEA, really the latest restructuring, it's not the closure of a plant, it's just a reduction of some workforce inside the business, so it's not adjusting any square footage. So the big. You know, that was done in the prior EMEA restructuring plan. So really, you know, the 30% is the net footprint reduction in North America when we're all said and done with Phase Two here, coming up here.
Ryan Connors (Analyst)
Got it. Thanks.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our final question comes from Joe Giordano with Cowen and Company. Your line is open.
Joseph Giordano (Analyst)
Hey, guys. How you doing?
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Good. How you doing, Joe?
Joseph Giordano (Analyst)
I wanted to start just talking about management bandwidth. So you have some people taking on increasing responsibility in areas that are taking on incremental restructuring projects, things like that. So maybe you could talk about bandwidth there and if that has any implications on the ability to take on new M&A.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah. So, no, listen, Joe, I'm not concerned about the bandwidth. I think the heavy lifting Phase One and Phase Two took a lot of our management time and effort earlier in the year. We're well along. You Phase One, we're pretty much done. Phase Two, we're well along with the heavy lifting and all the planning and, you know, all the things that are happening right now. So I wouldn't have made the change if I was worried about bandwidth. So our team's ready for it, you know, and we're willing to take on that challenge. So, in addition, we've added a lot of strong people inside the organization from where we were even a year ago.
So the bandwidth, not only at the leadership level, but at the next levels down in the organization, has been substantially improved, and we'll continue to improve that. So I feel good about that, and it should have no impact on any of the restructuring plans or any future M&A.
Joseph Giordano (Analyst)
... Great. Thanks, thanks for that. And then just last, I wanted to talk about visibility a little bit and what you're seeing into distributor inventory levels, what that kind of, you think that implies for forward expectations? I know you talked about moderating commercial, and we've seen some of the other players in that space. We've seen that kind of change in expectations reflected in their shares. So, just talk about the inventory levels and kind of visibility and what you're seeing there outside of that restocking order that you just got.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Yeah, so, you know, I feel pretty good about North America levels. I've not seen any major shifts from that point of view. Where I did see, we saw various destocking in EMEA and maybe some stocking orders we saw in the fourth quarter a little bit there. Really, the big shift in inventory that we're seeing is probably in China. That's where, you know, we were getting a lot of big stocking orders, and those stocking orders have been cut in half now, and it's more hand-to-mouth. I think they're just keeping their inventories low, and that's what we saw in Q3 and in Q4, that they're not just placing the big inventories. It's more about what they're seeing, and they want to be just in time and pressuring our lead times, which is fine.
So, you know, I don't see a big shift in our larger markets, in particular in North America. I think it's, you know, fairly steady at this point in time.
Joseph Giordano (Analyst)
Great. Thank you.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
That does conclude the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Bob Pagano, President and CEO, for closing remarks.
Robert J. Pagano, Jr (President and CEO)
In closing, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to join us today for our Q4 earnings call, and we appreciate your continued interest in Watts Water Technologies. We look forward to speaking with you again during our Q1 earnings call in May. Thank you very much.
Operator (participant)
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That does conclude today's conference. You may all disconnect, and everyone, have a great day.