zSpace - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
May 14, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q1 2025 revenue of $6.759M beat prior guidance (“slightly above $5M”) and consensus, while gross margin expanded 1,290 bps YoY to 47.4%; EPS missed consensus due to persistent funding/tariff uncertainty and higher OpEx ex-SBC.
- Mix shift toward software and services (+10 ppt YoY) and Inspire 2 hardware cost improvements drove margin expansion despite a 14% YoY revenue decline.
- Management refrained from formal financial guidance given “deep volatility” in K‑12 funding and evolving tariff policies; they expect to pass through ~20% Q2 tariffs and highlighted ongoing cost tailwinds from Inspire 2 and new tracking systems.
- Strategic acquisitions (BlocksCAD, Second Avenue) and Russell 2000/3000 additions enhance content breadth and investor visibility; ACV grew 10% YoY to $11.6M and NDRR was 97% for >$50k ACV customers.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Continued shift to higher-margin software/services; gross margin improved to 47.4% from 34.5% YoY on mix, hardware profitability, and more zSpace-owned content: “a greater proportion of sales of zSpace-owned software content versus 3rd party licensing”.
- Operational execution and late-quarter shipments drove revenue above guidance (vs “slightly above $5M” provided in late Q4 call); backlog remained healthy at $9.7M.
- Strategic progress: fully transitioned to Inspire 2; acquired BlocksCAD and Second Avenue; joined Russell 2000/3000. CEO: “These developments should strengthen our platform… and position us for long-term growth”.
What Went Wrong
- Revenue down 14% YoY on K‑12 funding uncertainty and delays of committed orders; bookings down 6% YoY, with international ex‑China down 78% YoY despite modest U.S. growth.
- Sales cycles lengthened (K‑12 from ~60–75 days to ~75–90), reducing linearity and forecastability; management described the backdrop as “deep volatility”.
- EPS missed consensus; management will pass through ~20% Q2 tariffs, which complicates pricing/quote updates and demand visibility (though Inspire 2 BOM helps hardware margins).
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Good day, everyone. Thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss zSpace's financial results for the first quarter and in March 31, 2025. Joining us today are zSpace CEO Paul Kellenberger, CFO Erick DeOliveira, and Greg Robles from Investor Relations. Following their remarks, we'll open the call for analyst questions. Before we go further, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Robles as he reads the company's safe harbor statements.
Greg Robles (Head of Investor Relations)
Thanks, Operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our conference call to discuss our first quarter 2025 financial results. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made on this call may be considered forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Additionally, we may discuss certain key business metrics, which are non-GAAP financial measures. A description of these non-GAAP measures and any comparison to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to the CEO of zSpace, Paul Kellenberger. Paul?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our first quarter earnings call. I am Paul Kellenberger, CEO of zSpace, and with me is Erick DeOliveira, our Chief Financial Officer. We're both excited to be here with you to discuss zSpace, our Q1 performance, and our plan to drive growth. We are pleased with our first quarter results, which came in ahead of our expectations despite continued turbulence in the broader education market. Revenue for the quarter was $6.8 million, down 14% compared to a year ago. As many of you know, school districts are still navigating funding challenges and delays, which impacted the timing of committed orders and hardware deliveries during the quarter. Despite the year-over-year decline, we are encouraged by the continued growth in our higher margin software and services business, which increased 11% year-over-year.
This is a critical part of our strategy as we scale our platform with recurring, stickier revenue streams. Erick will walk you through the full financials in more detail shortly. On the product front, and consistent with what we previously communicated, we've now fully transitioned into shipping our Inspire 2 laptop, which replaces the original Inspire 1. Inspire 2 delivers the same high-impact zSpace experience while driving cost efficiencies for us, helping to protect gross margins even as hardware volumes fluctuate. We also made meaningful progress on expanding our software capabilities through two strategic acquisitions we made in recent months. In March, we announced the completion of our acquisition of BlockSCAD, a cutting-edge platform specializing in 3D design and modeling for STEM education. BlockSCAD empowers students to engage with math, coding, and engineering concepts through browser-based 3D modeling.
The platform has strong alignment with our mission to promote hands-on, project-based learning and is already generating meaningful interest across CTE and workforce development programs. By integrating BlockSCAD into our immersive ecosystem, we're creating more dynamic tools that bring abstract concepts to life and spark creativity in the classroom. Also, in April, we announced our acquisition of Second Avenue Learning, a Rochester-based edtech innovator known for its custom software development and interactive learning experiences. Second Avenue expands our content capability and brings deep expertise in curriculum-aligned digital tools for K-12 and higher education. Importantly, their founder and CEO, Tori VanHeuris, has joined zSpace as our Senior Vice President of Product Strategy. Tori and her team share our commitment to meaningful education outcomes, and their approach to user-centered design will help accelerate our roadmap for immersive and standards-aligned software experiences.
Together, these acquisitions reflect our continued focus on enhancing our digital platform, an important long-term growth and profitability lever for the business. In summary, we had a solid quarter amidst a challenging macro backdrop. The first quarter was marked by elevated uncertainty, particularly around federal and state funding programs, as well as ongoing volatility tied to tariffs and policy decisions. While we are starting to see some stabilization as we move through Q2, the environment remains dynamic, and we're staying close to our partners to mitigate any potential disruptions. Despite these challenges, we remain confident in the opportunity ahead, and our solutions continue to gain traction both in the U.S. and internationally. With that, I'll turn the call over to Erick to walk us through our financial results in more detail. Erick?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
Thank you, Paul. As you consider our results, a reminder that our revenues are substantially recognized upon shipment of laptop units or fulfillment of software license keys. This includes recognizing the full value of multi-year software licenses in the period in which they are fulfilled. Only a small portion of our revenue is rapidly recognized. As a result of this revenue recognition treatment, our financial results can exhibit quarter-to-quarter variability that exaggerates the underlying seasonality of the business. Now, diving into our Q1 performance. As Paul mentioned, first quarter revenues were $6.8 million, down 14% year-on-year. This was driven by hardware revenues, down 26%, as customers in our K-12 end markets experienced turbulence in their funding sources and delayed delivery of committed orders. However, this was offset by 11% year-on-year growth in our software and services revenues, which drove significant improvements in gross profit and margins.
As we continue to scale our platform organically and through M&A, we widen this recurring revenue stream, and this quarter's results are illustrative of the benefits. Bookings for the quarter were $8.3 million, down 6% year-on-year. Excluding China, U.S. and rest of world bookings were $6.7 million, down 8% year-on-year. This reflects growth of 4% in the U.S. market and 78% decline in international geographies other than China relative to the comparable prior year period. We concluded the quarter with $9.7 million of unfulfilled orders in the backlog as end users reacted to changes in their funding sources. Gross profit for the quarter was $3.2 million, up 19% year-on-year despite revenue headwinds and reflecting improvements in the quality of revenue across the board. Gross margins for the quarter were 47.4%, up 13 percentage points compared to 34.5% in the comparable quarter of the prior year.
Despite the headwinds constraining business volume, strong execution across a number of fronts was behind this improvement in profitability, and we are pleased that efforts reaching back several quarters are now bearing fruit. Firstly, a 9% mix shift of revenue out of hardware and into software and services was responsible for approximately 3 percentage points of this margin expansion. Strong retention of renewable software was a contributing factor here, of which our NDRR and ACV metrics are evidence. More on that shortly. Secondly, the new Inspire 2 model, which began shipping in Q4 and made up 100% of Q1 shipments, improved hardware margins as we'd hoped. In the second half of this year, release of the new Orb tracking systems will be expected to improve the user experience and further reduce costs in the peripheral hardware ecosystem.
Thirdly, delivering against our intention to own more software content, we brought more applications in-house through the BlockSCAD acquisition and purchase and development of other apps. This protected revenue while reducing third-party revenue share, which we recognize as COGS. The recently announced acquisition of Second Avenue further strengthens our ability to develop and efficiently deliver and maintain content for our users. All of the above factors are structural aspects of our business strategy and are expected to persist and expand in impact in coming quarters. As previously discussed, our P&L reflects multi-year software license revenue in period. To help better characterize the run rate health of the business, we offer two software operating metrics. As of March 31, 2025, the annualized contract value of renewable software was $11.6 million, up 10% compared with 12 months ago.
Also, as of March 31, 2025, the net dollar revenue retention of customers with at least $50,000 of ACV was 97% for those customers present as of March 31, 2024. We're very pleased that our efforts to focus on the importance of our software content in driving student outcomes have generated continued growth in the ACV metric and high retention rates amid such a challenging environment for our end users. Operating expenses, excluding stock-based compensation for the quarter, were $7.6 million compared with $6.8 million in the comparable prior year period, an increase of 11%. In the first quarter, we recorded stock-based compensation of $1 million and issued grants for 1.3 million restricted stock units to employees and non-employee directors. 2025 restricted stock units granted year-to-date correspond to a year-to-date burn rate of 5.9% relative to the 22.8 million shares issued and outstanding at the start of the year.
We continue to target an overall burn rate of less than 7% for the full year. Now turning to some recent developments. Subsequent to the quarter, we closed a $20 million convertible financing facility, of which $13 million was funded. We used approximately $6 million to pay down debt, with $7 million in dry powder for acquisitions and general corporate purposes. The note carries a variable conversion price, and we may issue an additional $7 million of gross proceeds at a later date. Now moving on to our outlook for the rest of the year. 2025 continues to bring significant uncertainty in our markets as we see some education customers taking longer to identify funding sources for zSpace's K-12, AR, and VR classroom solutions, while others accelerate their purchases to lock in pricing and availability for Q2 and the coming school year.
The overall impact for zSpace remains unclear at this time. At the same time, workforce development and CTE solutions continue to be in favor. Specifically for our second quarter, the uncertainty stems from the timing of deals closing in our end markets given the broader turbulence in the education market. As discussed last quarter, uncertainty is likely to persist for the remainder of the year. We remain comfortable in our ability to improve the quality of both our hardware and software revenues and renew business across the K-12 and CTE content segments, but cannot credibly project business volume under current circumstances. Given this landscape, we are going to refrain from formal financial guidance. Regarding our capital allocation and the management of operating expenses in particular, we continue to control spending strictly. On an ongoing basis, we will evaluate levels of spend, in particular regarding sales and marketing.
You can see that we constrained OpEx growth this quarter to a rate below that of gross profit growth, excluding stock-based comp. Now I will turn the time back to the operator for Q&A.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will do the Q&A. To ask a question, please press star one one. To remove yourself from the queue, please press star one one again. One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from the line of Alex Paris from Barrington Research. Your line is open.
Alex Paris (President)
Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Revenues, while down 14% year-over-year, were ahead of your expectations and ahead of consensus expectations. Congrats on that. I just wanted to talk a little bit about this uncertainty, both on the funding side and then global trade side, i.e., tariffs. I think last quarter on the conference call, in speaking about sales cycle, I think you said that the sales cycle had expanded from 60-75 days in K-12s to something more along the lines of 75-90. You also said that there was no significant difference in CTE, maybe a couple of weeks. Wondering if we can get an update there and what has been the trend in that so far in Q2 as well. Hello? Oh, sorry.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Hi, Alex. Sorry.
Alex Paris (President)
Oh, no problem.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Alex, my apologies there. This is Paul. Let me take that one. I was muted there, talking to myself.
Alex Paris (President)
No worries.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Good afternoon. It was me who gave the sales cycle increasing from 60 to 75, previously the 75-90 in the last call, and no significant changes in CTE and workforce. I would say that continues. I'm going to give you a specific example without being specific to the state. I was meeting with one of the larger states in the last three weeks. I would say the uncertainty remains high in the K-12 side of things vis-à-vis sales cycle and ultimately people spending money. I think that remains consistent. I would say as it relates to CTE, and again, there's a whole pool of different funds, including Perkins, which is one of the bigger ones, and workforce development that tends to be a little more focused at the state level, those dollars are flowing.
I would say nothing has changed vis-à-vis our business on the sales cycle side of it. I would say a consistent message. Somebody I was speaking to used the phrase deep volatility. That was a week ago, two weeks ago. Seems every week or every couple of days something different happens in the macro world. I think it's going to take a little longer here for things to really settle in. The trends we discussed on the last call, I would say, are remaining pretty consistent. I would say we're cautiously optimistic here about where things are headed.
Alex Paris (President)
That's good to hear.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Erick, do you want to add anything to that?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
Maybe just one last sort of point. To Paul's discussion of the deep volatility here, this group will recall that in our last earnings call, we gave guidance on Q1 in the waning days of the quarter. We were characterizing one aspect of the volatility as being the trade-off between two opposing forces. Customers looking to accelerate their receipt of shipments while they had visibility into funding, and another group of customers who were delaying taking receipt of orders and placing new orders also because of uncertainty in their funding. In our Q1 results here, you can see that where we guided to $5 million, again, in the waning days of the quarter, we delivered considerably more than that. In that period, we saw a significant surge in late orders go out the door.
The uncertainty and the volatility really combine to create a picture that's difficult to forecast, but still preserves the view that the zSpace product is in high demand in end schools, and our end customers are really just trying to figure out what the timing and the specific funding sources that will apply to zSpace will be. Does that help, Alex?
Alex Paris (President)
Absolutely. I would just ask a follow-on question to that point then. The surge late in the quarter versus the point at which you gave guidance, which explains the outperformance in revenue. Did that continue into April, or is it sort of an end-of-the-quarter phenomenon?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
I wouldn't say it's necessarily end-of-quarter. I don't want to characterize any performance quarter to date so far only because the ebbs and flows don't seem to exist in a straight line. We do absolutely see some significant deadline-driven decision-making both in Q2 and in Q3. June 30, September 30 are significant dates in the funding, the fiscal year for K-12 segments in particular. As we approach 6/30, we do expect to see a lot of fisher-cut bait behavior as those LUMAS forcing functions.
Alex Paris (President)
Great. That's helpful. I wanted to follow up, ask a similar question that I did last quarter about tariffs. You refer to them in the press release and in the prepared comments as adding to uncertainty. I was curious about specifics, the impact on your BOM costs. There's been a lot of changes in the tariffs since April 2nd. The Chinese tariffs hit a high of 145%, at least proposed. This past weekend, we've had some changes there. What are your thoughts with regard to the China tariffs, at least what we know now, given that your hardware primarily comes out of China?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
Paul, let me take a short answer.
Alex Paris (President)
Okay. Go ahead.
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
You want to go ahead? Go ahead, Paul.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
I was just going to say, so what we know today, and I'm going to stress today, Alex, because it never seems to be changing a lot, is our products are subject to 20% tariffs. Quite frankly, just as we did back in 2018, our plans are to pass those tariffs through to our customers. That said, we think that's what it's going to be for this quarter. Now there's a 90-day hiatus out there. By the way, we were fortunate to fall under the exemption that was put in place for laptops and other products back whenever that was two or three weeks ago. The tariffs for this quarter we're expecting to be 20%. There are plans being made by our OEM partners to move production to other locations in the event, and the location they're planning to move to has a 10% tariff today.
That is well in motion. Erick, do you want to provide any other color on numbers?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
No, I think that's it on numbers. As far as the time horizon, Paul called out the lull that we're in here under the 90-day hiatus. That creates a little bit of an eye of the storm calm in that we have a stable tariff, not necessarily a favorable scenario, but a stable tariff scenario for a short time window. The longer-term view still leaves open what ultimate tariffs will be and how long it will take to find that. For as long as we have a tariff rate of approximately this level, we anticipate passing that through. A consequence of that is the underlying product, the new Inspire 2, has a sufficiently lower BOM cost than its predecessor. In this kind of a stable tariff regime, you will notice improvements to hardware profitability that reflect the improvement in the underlying product we're shipping.
Alex Paris (President)
Gotcha. And then just to be clear, there was essentially no impact from tariffs in the first quarter, and you're expecting a 20% impact from tariffs in the second quarter?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Roughly correct, at least as far as cost. The impact in the first quarter overwhelmingly was felt as a demand signal as the end users in K-12 in particular were reacting to a range of factors buffering them, both our pricing as it shows up on quotes and just churn in updating sales collateral to keep track of changes in tariffs. Also, our K-12 customers are reflecting or are reacting to impacts and uncertainty in the sources of funding, particularly at the federal but also the state levels.
Alex Paris (President)
Great. I appreciate the additional color, and I'll turn it over to the others to ask questions and get back in the queue. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from Jared Osteen from Roth Capital Partners. Your line is open.
Jared Osteen (Equity Research Associate)
Hi Paul. Hi Erick. This is Jared Osteen on for Rohit. A few questions, if I may. In March, you acquired BlockSCAD and in April, Second Avenue. How have those integrations gone, and how are you thinking about future M&A?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Erick, do you want me to start on that?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
Please go ahead, Paul.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Okay. BlockSCAD is fully integrated. In fact, I think Jared, in the previous call, we were talking about specifically them. We have been reselling their application. It is now part of our standard bundle. That one was pretty straightforward. Second Avenue is a little bit different and very unique. We brought on board all of their key team members, including, as I mentioned in the earlier preamble, Tori VanHeuris, who was their CEO, and she stepped in to help us lead our product strategy. There is some very specific work that the team is doing, and it is in the Career Explorer, which is really in the CTE workforce development focused area. It is not exclusively. It also rolls into the K-12 side of it.
There is some very specific product work that is, I'll say, well underway, and we expect to see some early releases soon, and they'll be rolled out for back-to-school in the August, September timeframe, which we feel really positive about. I think in terms of the integration, I would say we're probably right in the middle. I think everybody feels really good about it. That would be a good question to ask in another 90 days-ish. I'd say right now, things are looking extremely positive. Your last question there about go forward, I'm just going to say we continue to look at the landscape of potential companies to acquire. There is a little bit of ingestion we're doing here with the two that we worked our way through, but we're continuing to move forward the other one. Stay tuned on that. Great. Thank you.
Jared Osteen (Equity Research Associate)
On my second question, how has feedback been from elementary schools after you launched Imagine earlier this year? Maybe following that up within CTE, kind of back to your point before, Paul, are there specific pockets or sectors where you currently have greater adoption or elevated interest levels that you're seeing today?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Yeah. So those are two different questions. Imagine, which, as you know, is really the bundle that we created, was really focused on the elementary schools. I would say has been extremely well received. We are shipping orders against, shipping products against those orders today. I would say it's still probably early stages given the timing of the shipments because the heavier usage tends to happen more in back-to-school. I think timing-wise, the real feedback is going to come. All the initial feedback has been, I'll say, very positive. We continue to refine our estimates and forecasts in terms of where that goes. Again, it's a different product in terms of the specifications, but the bundle we put together, we feel, has really hit the mark for the elementary schools.
On the CTE, right now, I would say everywhere in what I would call the advanced application areas, and everything from advanced manufacturing, advanced pneumatics, AI robotics, I would say we have a really good level of both interest and adoption. As I'm repeating what I said previously, it's both CTE in high schools, it's CTE in community colleges, and it's also CTE moving more and more into what I'll call workforce development. That tends to be a little bit more even adult learning or worker retraining. I would say the adoption continues to be very strong. As I mentioned earlier when Alex asked the question about how things are going, if you will, the funding seems to be continuing to flow in that area pretty freely, I'll say, without the same hesitation in the K-12 or K-12 STEM side of it.
It continues to look very positive.
Jared Osteen (Equity Research Associate)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. As a reminder to ask the question, that's star 11, star 11 for questions. Our next question will come from Nehal Chokchi from Northland Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Yeah. Thank you. The bookings in the March quarter were actually stronger than what our expectations were following the December quarter report. It sounds like you did have some pretty non-linear bookings pattern as the March quarter closed out. Is that correct?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
I can take that, Paul.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Yeah. Go ahead.
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
Yeah. Thanks for the question, Nehal. You're right. When you peel back the numbers, there are areas of strength that, frankly, were encouraging given how the quarter felt as we moved through it. In particular, we actually did see year-on-year growth in the U.S. once you back out China and once you back out other international geographies. The key area of year-on-year decline that you saw here was in other international geographies where there was a significant decline. Now, in our last quarter, we noted how international over a full-year basis has been a significant source of growth over the last several years. It is a small number, though. Its volatility plays an outsized role in the quarter-to-quarter surges in bookings. We're very encouraged that both new orders and renewals propped up the U.S.
We're hopeful that as we move through the year, we'll see a resumption of volume to go along with the margin expansion that we enjoyed in Q1.
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Okay. How would you characterize the linearity in the quarter in terms of bookings?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
In a normal year, we typically see booking seasonality that are light in Q1 and Q4, our shoulder periods. You could think of those as maybe being 20% each of full-year bookings, with Q2 and Q3 being larger bookings periods and having approximately 30% of the full-year business in each. That is an average over many periods. We have seen in some of our recent filings how the timing of large deals in particular can skew that seasonality.
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Okay. It sounds like you did have more left in backlog than anticipated when you had your December quarter earnings call. Given the margin accretion partially due to better-than-expected software, is your software backlog—what's your software backlog relative to overall backlog? Is it lower than usual in terms of the mix?
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Yeah. I don't have a split on the mix in the backlog right here. However, your question actually gets to an interesting dynamic that's at play here in the quarter, which is we've demonstrated how we can actually grow gross profit despite declines in hardware revenues. What I'd say about the mix of our orders is the mix of hardware to software in a new deployment where Inspire laptops are going out the door with the software load. That has not changed dramatically. Yeah. That has not changed dramatically. Where we see the pattern going, however, is increasing software growth from two sources and as a mix of revenue, potentially a third. We continue to see prior customers renew without new hardware orders. That's the first factor, which is just the layer of renewals.
The second is, as we ship new orders, we have been seeing improvements in the software load. We discussed that in the year-end results, and we continue to see that in Q1 here. The third factor, and this is on the heels of the earlier question on this call regarding Imagine, is you can contemplate that as Imagine, which has a lower price point on the hardware, it is a smaller form factor, in many cases carries similar software loads. We can imagine a dynamic where the cost to the customer, meaning our hardware revenues, decline while still bringing significant, if not more, software loads. So a trade-off here between the hardware platform on which the software runs and our ability to grow a renewing software business with higher margins. Is that helpful insight?
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Yep. Yep. Just to be clear, I'm concerned that while you had a backlog build, that's largely hardware backlog build as opposed to a commensurate software backlog build. I'm just looking for verification of whether or not that is or is not the case.
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
No. That's not the case. In fact, the appetite for software continues to be strong, and the mix in the backlog is representative of the health of the software offerings that we've seen in recent quarters. Put another way, if you look at the mix of hardware to software and services in our Q1 portfolio, we saw 10 percentage points of mix shift out of hardware and into software and services this past quarter. That continues a trend that we've seen for successive quarters. It's not reflective of any lack of health in the backlog. The backlog itself continues to be rich in terms of software content.
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Great. Thank you. As far as bookings mix, can you give the split between Inspire versus Imagine bookings and then also CTE versus K-12 bookings?
Erick DeOliveira (CFO)
CTE through K-12 bookings, one moment here. For Inspire and Imagine, we're not going to make that, we're not going to read that out. On K-12 versus CTE bookings, I believe we have a split recorded that was 71% K-12 and 29% CTE for the quarter just ended.
Nehal Chokshi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Yeah. Erick, I'm going to make a comment, though. I'm not going to answer the specific Inspire versus Imagine. But Inspire is a product that has been around for a few years from Inspire 1, Inspire 2. Everybody knows that it's continuing to roll. Imagine continues to be that newer product, as you know, we're targeting into elementary. I think that question is going to be more relevant in another quarter or two. Okay. Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Kellenberger for closing remarks.
Paul Kellenberger (CEO)
Okay. Thank you, Victor. Just a quick thank you to everyone for listening to today's call. We look forward to speaking to you again when we report our second quarter results. Thanks again for joining us. Have a great evening, everyone.
Operator (participant)
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, everyone. Have a great day.