Q3 2024 Summary
Updated Jan 31, 2025, 4:49 PM UTC- Aerospace & Defense segment, which represents about 18% of AMETEK, delivered strong performance with both overall and organic sales up mid-single digits, and is expected to achieve high single-digit organic growth for the full year.
- Electromechanical Group (EMG) orders were up 12% organically with a positive book-to-bill of 1.02, indicating improving demand trends despite ongoing destocking.
- Semiconductor businesses are expected to be up mid-single digits for the year (about 6% of the portfolio), driven by unique products and recent acquisitions enhancing capabilities in advanced semiconductor technologies.
- AMETEK's Automation & Engineered Solutions segment experienced a high single-digit decline in organic sales due to continued inventory destocking by OEM customers, and the company expects organic sales in this segment to decline mid-single digits for the full year as destocking headwinds continue.
- Customer project delays in the Electronic Instruments Group's Test and Measurement businesses are affecting sales growth, driven by economic, geopolitical, and election uncertainties causing customers to remain cautious.
- Key segments, including Process businesses and Power & Industrial businesses, reported declines in organic sales in the quarter, with Process businesses declining low single digits and Power & Industrial businesses' organic sales down low single digits, indicating potential weakness in these markets.
Quarterly guidance for Q4 2024:
- Overall Sales: up mid-single digits (no prior guidance)
- Earnings: $1.81 to $1.86 (no prior guidance)
Annual guidance for FY 2024:
- Overall Sales: 5% to 7% (no change from 5% to 7% )
- Diluted EPS: $6.77 to $6.82 (raised from $6.70 to $6.80 )
- Free Cash Flow Conversion: 115% to 120% of net income (raised from 110% to 120% )
- Effective Tax Rate: 17% to 17.5% (lowered from 17% to 18% )
- Capital Expenditures: $135 million (lowered from $150 million )
- Depreciation & Amortization: $395 million (lowered from $400 million )
- General and Administrative Expenses: 1.5% of sales (no prior guidance)
Metric | Period | Guidance | Actual | Performance |
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Sales Growth | Q3 2024 | Up mid-single digits | 5.3% YoY growth (from 1,622,854To 1,708,564) | Met |
Diluted EPS | Q3 2024 | $1.60 to $1.62 | $1.47 | Missed |
- Total Revenue: $1,708.6M (+5% YoY from $1,622.8M)
- Electromechanical Group (EMG): $574M (+18% YoY)
- Aerospace and Power: $515M (+7% YoY)
- Automation and Engineered Solutions: $413.8M (+22% YoY)
- International Revenue: $813.7M (+11% YoY), with Asia at $361.9M (+13% YoY)
- Net Change in Cash: –$0.31M vs. +$181.83M YoY
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Strong Aerospace & Defense performance | Previously mentioned as strong, with project lumpiness and minor shipment delays in Q2, Q1, and Q4 calls. | Mid-single-digit A&D growth, some minor production delays noted due to a large customer. Overall 18% of sales, expecting high single-digit organic growth. | Continues to be a key growth area, with additional caution around a specific customer’s production challenges. |
Ongoing inventory destocking in A&ES | Previously more severe, with notable 10% and high single-digit declines reported, though still expected to improve in the second half of the year. | High single-digit decline in organic sales tied to prolonged inventory normalization. Some sequential order improvements offer optimism once headwinds subside. | Still present but gradually improving. Cautious outlook remains until full destocking completes. |
Order momentum turning positive | Previously down or slowly stabilizing. Q2 was slightly better than Q1 but still negative organic orders. Q1 indicated low single-digit sequential improvements. Q4 2023 expected positivity in the second half of 2024. | Orders up 12% overall, with a 2% organic increase. Marked sequential improvement from Q1 and Q2 declines, signaling a turnaround in demand. | Sentiment shifted to optimism as orders move from decline to growth. |
Acquisitions as a key growth driver | Previously stressed as primary capital allocation priority, with Paragon Medical as a major MedTech investment. Pipeline remains robust across periods (Q2, Q1, Q4). | Highlighted Virtek Vision and Polygon Physics acquisitions, plus Paragon Medical. Continues focus on MedTech, laser-based inspection, and advanced chip manufacturing. | Ongoing priority, expanding into high-growth markets via strategic deals. |
Semiconductor market opportunities | Repeatedly noted as a long-term secular driver: CAMECA for next-generation defect detection, Zygo with EUV optics. | CAMECA’s strong product portfolio and Polygon Physics technology boost advanced chip manufacturing capabilities. Mid-single-digit semiconductor growth forecast. | Remains a key focus, expecting demand growth amid node transitions and new fabs. |
China and geopolitical uncertainties | Consistently cited as a potential headwind, impacting project spending and leading to cautious customer behavior. Tariffs less emphasized after supply chain rebalancing. | 10% sales growth in China but overall choppy. Broader geopolitical factors and election uncertainties causing customer caution in some segments. | Still a concern, but China’s growth was better this quarter even if outlook remains uncertain. |
Effective cost management and margin | Margins have expanded year-over-year, though acquisitions introduced temporary dilution. Pricing has moderated from higher levels in prior calls. | Operating margin at 26.1%, with core margins at 27.4% excluding acquisition dilution. Price increases normalized around 3%; acquisitions slightly dilutive. | Stable margin expansion continues, balancing price-cost with acquisition impacts. |
Tariff impacts | Previously less emphasized after supply chain rebalancing. Minimal tariff mention in Q1 2024, not prominent in Q2 or Q4 2023 calls. | No discussion in Q3 2024. | Seen as no longer a material factor, indicating reduced impact. |
New major aerospace customer production risk | Not discussed in prior calls. | New mention in Q3 regarding a large aerospace customer’s production struggles, though AMETEK factored in known impacts for Q4. | Introduced added risk but diverse A&D portfolio mitigates overexposure. |
Long-term potential | Consistently reiterated as a multi-year strategy, leveraging high-growth end markets (e.g., MedTech, semiconductors) and resilient A&D demand. | Tied to acquisitions (Virtek, Polygon, Paragon) and high-growth markets (MedTech, semiconductors). A&D remains a steady contributor. | Continues to be the central strategic focus, underpinned by targeted M&A and secular growth segments. |
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Destocking Impact
Q: Is destocking affecting demand, and will it continue?
A: We saw demand in line with expectations as OEM customers and our automation and Paragon businesses worked down excess inventory, and destocking headwinds will continue. However, order trends are heading in the right direction, with EMG orders up 12% organically and a positive book-to-bill of 1.02. We're confident it's a destocking issue, not reduced demand, and we're working through it. -
Paragon Medical Outlook
Q: What's the status and outlook for Paragon Medical?
A: Paragon met expectations for Q3, with sequential order improvements similar to our other businesses. It's well-positioned in attractive med tech markets, with many new program wins that will provide upside as they phase in. As destocking abates, we expect improvement in 2025, supported by efficiency improvements and new products. -
Order Growth Trends
Q: How are orders trending across the business?
A: We've seen healthy sequential increases in orders, with the company's book-to-bill at 1.02, and orders turning positive. EMG orders were up 12% organically, and EIG orders improved from -11% in Q1 to -2% in Q3. We're encouraged by these positive trends across all divisions. -
Aerospace Exposure
Q: How are customer issues impacting Aerospace outlook?
A: Despite minor delays, we've factored the impacts into our Q4 guidance. Our Aerospace business has diverse exposures across a wide range of platforms, with a healthy mix of OEM and aftermarket sales, and no overexposure to any single customer or platform. We're confident in our position and see strong demand ahead. -
Acquisition Pipeline
Q: What's the status of the acquisition pipeline?
A: Our pipeline remains robust, and we feel things are starting to move at an accelerated pace. We're actively looking at a high number of quality deals across a variety of sizes, and with our strong balance sheet, we're well-positioned to execute as opportunities arise. -
Margin Recovery
Q: Can you discuss the margin recovery plan and tailwinds?
A: We're improving the business significantly, including plant closures and funding new product phases. While we don't provide guidance for 2025 at this time, the actions we're taking now are expected to create a very positive scenario as we move forward. -
China Sales
Q: How did China revenue perform this quarter?
A: Our China business was up 10%, with strong growth in our Ultra Precision Technology division. While the market remains choppy and difficult to predict, we're well-positioned with products that help customers improve manufacturing processes and efficiency. -
Defense Business
Q: What's the status of the defense business and delays?
A: We experienced some project timing impacts in Q2 and Q3, but we expect this to reverse with good things scheduled for Q4. The defense business is growing, although project-based and can be lumpy, but it's headed in the right direction. -
Semi Cap Cycle
Q: Can you outgrow the semiconductor equipment market?
A: We believe we can. Our semiconductor businesses were up mid-single digits in the quarter, driven by unique products. Our portfolio balances laboratory and production equipment, mitigating swings, and we're seeing positive market dynamics with new technologies. -
Pricing Trends
Q: How is pricing and price/cost spread evolving?
A: We're returning to normal patterns, achieving 3% price increases in the quarter, consistent across the portfolio, resulting in about 100 basis points of positive spread. We expect to maintain a positive price/cost spread of about 50 basis points going forward, with typical price increases of 2–3%. -
R&D Investment
Q: Can Vitality Index go higher, and any standout units?
A: We believe the right level for our Vitality Index is between 20% and 30%; we're currently at 28%, and it could vary within that range. Our investment is distributed across the company, with incremental $90 million spent on projects that will drive future sales. We consistently fund R&D, which pays off in the long run. -
Project Delays
Q: When will project delays resolve, any catch-up expected?
A: Our Q4 guidance assumes a normal, strong quarter for our project businesses and EIG, with a sequential increase from Q3 due to seasonality and project activity. We feel there's year-end spending occurring, which is positive. -
Restructuring at Paragon
Q: How is restructuring at Paragon progressing given regulations?
A: We're experienced with regulated environments, adjusting our timing accordingly, moving carefully and deliberately. While it takes longer, we're committed to doing it right, leveraging our experience from other regulated markets like aerospace and defense. -
Inventory Impact on Paragon
Q: Will Paragon bounce back post-inventory drawdown?
A: As the inventory situation abates, we expect improvement in 2025. With a lower cost structure and new products phasing in, we anticipate a positive trajectory, although it will take some time as recovery isn't instantaneous.