American Superconductor - Q3 2024
January 25, 2024
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Operator (participant)
Good morning, and welcome to the AMSC Third Quarter FY 2023 Financial Results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Heilshorn of LHA. Please go ahead.
John Heilshorn (Investor Relations and Co-Founder)
Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to American Superconductor Corporation's third quarter of FY 2023 earnings conference call. I'm John Heilshorn of LHA Investor Relations, AMSC's investor relations agency of record. With us on today's call are Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and John Kosiba, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer. American Superconductor issued its earnings release for the third quarter of FY 2023 yesterday after the market closed. For those of you who have not yet seen the release, a copy is available in the Investors page of the company's website at www.amsc.com.
Before I start the call, I would like to remind you that various remarks that management will make during today's call about American Superconductor's future expectations, including expectations regarding the company's fourth quarter of FY 2023 financial performance, plans, and prospects, constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actually, results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those set forth in the Risk Factors section of American Superconductor's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2023, which the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 31, 2023, and the company's other reports filed with the SEC.
These forward-looking statements represent management's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing management views as of any subsequent date to today. While the company anticipates that subsequent events and developments may cause the company's views to change, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Also, on today's call, management will refer to non-GAAP net loss, which are non-GAAP financial measures. The company believes that non-GAAP net income loss assists management and investors in comparing the company's performance across reporting periods on a consistent basis by excluding these non-cash, non-recurring or other charges that it does not believe are indicative of its core operating performance.
The reconciliation of GAAP net loss to GAAP net income can be found in the third quarter of fiscal 2023 earnings press release that the company issued and furnished with the SEC last night on Form 8-K. All the American Superconductors press releases and SEC filings can be accessed from the investors page of its website at www.amsc.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Daniel McGahn. Daniel?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. I'm really excited to share some great news with everyone today. I'll begin by providing an update and sharing a few remarks on our business. John Kosiba will then provide a detailed review of our financial results for the third fiscal quarter, which ended December 31, 2023, and will provide guidance for the fourth fiscal quarter, which will end March 31, 2024. Following our comments, we'll open up the line to questions from our analysts. We're really pleased to announce another quarter of outstanding financial results. Total revenues for the third quarter of fiscal year 2023 exceeded our expectations and guidance range. The business really outperformed this quarter. We showed higher revenue, we showed expanded gross margins, we had positive operating cash flow, we generated non-GAAP net income, and we continue the rate at which we're booking orders to backlogs.
Total revenue for the past nine months is about the same as total revenues for our entire previous fiscal year. Let me repeat that, because I think it's important, and I'm convinced that people are missing this point about the strength of our business. Through the first nine months of this fiscal year, we had about the same revenue for the 12 months as the previous entire fiscal year. This means that whatever we do in the fourth quarter will be year-over-year growth. I won't steal John's guidance later in the call, but given the fact the basis is about $100 million, you basically see the revenue for our fourth quarter as the growth of our business for the fiscal year. This success was driven by our pricing initiatives, product and regional mix, and overall customer demand. All signs this quarter are very positive.
Our third quarter revenue of over $39 million was driven by new energy power system shipments. This was due to customers' demand, needing products earlier than forecasted. We are finding lead times are shrinking and our customers want products sooner. We see this as a great indicator of the health of our business. Our grid segment revenue accounted for approximately 85% of AMSC's total revenue and grew over 60% versus a year ago period. This represents a record-breaking grid quarter with unprecedented quarterly revenue. Nearly 15% of the revenue came from our wind business, which also grew about 90% versus a year ago period. 60% and 90%, these are big numbers.... During our third quarter, we saw a diverse set of product shipments. We shipped voltage compensators, capacitor banks, harmonic filters, transformers, rectifiers, Volt-VAR optimizers, Ship Protection Systems, and Electrical Control Systems.
These products went into renewables and a variety of industrial markets, including semiconductor, mining, as well as our Navy projects. During our third quarter, we booked over $34 million of new orders and grew our 12-month backlog to over $137 million. Our backlog at the end of the third quarter increased by nearly 25% when compared to the year-ago period. We had $25 million of New Energy Power Systems orders. Our New Energy Power Systems orders have averaged over $30 million a quarter during FY 2023, varying by quarter because of timing. These third quarter orders serve an increasingly diverse market. They represent strong contributions from the renewables market, with wind and solar projects accounting for approximately two-thirds of the total.
Industrial orders, which contribute approximately one-third of the total, include orders for utilities, metals and mining, as well as semiconductor projects. With strong demand across our end markets, we expect to continue to grow and diversify our grid business through these and future strong bookings in both renewable and industrial sectors. Okay, let's talk about some great news in wind. We secured our second 3 MW Electrical Control Systems or ECS order, from Inox Wind. Inox Wind has requested immediate delivery under this $8 million follow-on order, and we expect to ship these ECS over the course of calendar year 2024. It is depending on their payments. Inox would like all sets to be delivered during our first quarter of FY 2023, but we see it impacting the first and second quarter. It could take longer to deliver if they are not timely with their payments.
Inox's business seems poised to take off in 2024. Their public information would lead one to believe this. We are off to an encouraging start in calendar year 2024 with this follow-on order from our partner, Inox, for our cutting-edge 3 MW class ECS. We see continuous demand for their 2 MW turbine and our 2 MW ECS as well. Additionally, we have made progress on our Navy development programs and secured orders to continue that work. We are working to insert our technology into multiple Navy fleets. Over the past several years, we've taken a series of very deliberate actions to diversify our business and grow through our grid business. Over a five-year period, we nearly tripled our grid business revenue and had consistent revenue growth of over 17% compounded annual growth rate.
We acquired and integrated three companies, which have successfully broadened our sales leverage, expanded our content of offerings, and contributed to our increased total revenue. We are pleased with these results and super excited about the rest of the year. Now I'll turn the call over to John Kosiba, to review our financial results for the third quarter of FY 2023, and provide guidance for the fourth quarter of FY 2023, which will end March 31, 2024. John?
John Kosiba (SVP, CFO and Treasurer)
Thanks, Daniel, and good morning, everyone. AMSC generated revenues of $39.4 million for the third quarter of FY 2023, compared to $23.9 million in the year-ago quarter. Our grid business unit accounted for 85% of total revenues, while our wind business unit accounted for 15%. Grid business unit revenues increased by 61% in the third quarter versus the year-ago quarter, while our wind business unit increased by 87% over the same time period. Looking at the P&L in more detail, gross margin for the third quarter of FY 2023 was 25%, compared to 2% in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin for the third quarter of FY 2023 was positively impacted by the higher revenues, a more favorable product mix, and the favorable impact across the business from pricing increases across our product lines.
Moving on to operating expenses, R&D and SG&A expenses for the third quarter of FY 2023 were $10 million, compared to $9.3 million in the year-ago quarter. Approximately 11% of R&D and SG&A expenses in the third quarter of FY 2023 were non-cash. Our non-GAAP net income for the third quarter of FY 2023 was $900,000 or $0.03 per share, compared with a net loss of $7.7 million or $0.27 per share in the year-ago quarter. Our net loss in the third quarter of FY 2023 was $1.6 million or $0.06 per share. This compares to a net loss of $9.6 million or $0.34 per share in the year-ago quarter. Please see our press release issued last night for a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results.
We ended the third quarter of FY 2023 with $25 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. This compares with $24 million on September 30, 2023. Our operating cash flow in the third quarter of FY 2023 generated $1.3 million. Now turning to our financial guidance for the fourth quarter of FY 2023. We expect that our revenues will be in the range of $36 million-$40 million, on net losses expected not to exceed $3.5 million or $0.12 per share. Our non-GAAP net loss is expected not to exceed $1.7 million or $0.06 per share. We expect operating cash flow to be breakeven to positive cash generation of $2 million. We expect to end the fourth quarter with no less than $25 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash.
With that, I'll turn the call back over to Daniel.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Thanks, John. We didn't guide to that last quarter, but we are this quarter, and that has meaning. This is the second quarter in a row where we've achieved positive operating cash flow and expect to do that again for a third quarter. Strong market demand from renewables, industrials, and utilities drove New Energy Power Systems orders for our third quarter of FY 2023. Our orders illustrate market diversification from customers in metals, mining and materials, and semiconductors to military and utility applications. We see opportunities for our products and services as utilities address the addition of distributed power into the electric grid. We have a robust pipeline of opportunities, thanks to strong market demand, and we are aggressively going after those opportunities. We see the wind market strengthening in India, and that should translate into expanded business for us next year.
We've been able to make significant progress in all our U.S. Navy programs, and we see more ships on the horizon. Our Resilient Electric Grid system in Chicago continues to operate as planned, and we believe we have a solution that can solve many existing problems in the electrical grid of many cities. We are committed to the continued diversification of our business, expanding our scale and reach domestically and internationally, and investing in resilient markets that create a path for a more sustainable world. Our key growth markets are renewables, mining materials and metals, particularly for electric and hybrid vehicles, semiconductors, utilities, and military. We believe the march towards a more sustainable world will be a driver for the markets we serve in the foreseeable future.
Our products are expected to play a central role in this evolution, and we continue to intensify our efforts and collaboration to take advantage of these trends. We continue to work towards growing a business that's supporting power management at the substation level for renewables, mining and metals, utilities, and for military uses, as well as supporting customers in the semiconductor industry. We have turned a corner and delivered another outstanding quarter. We aren't looking back. We can see the fundamentals of our business are well-grounded. It feels like we have the wind at our back. Policy is driving more renewables, the reshoring of semiconductor capacity in America, the rise of the electric vehicle, and investment in American infrastructure. All four we see as tailwinds.
If you believe that there needs to be a solution to climate and decarbonization, and you're wondering who will be providing these solutions, you have come to the right place. To conclude, we've built a stable and diversified business that we believe is well-positioned to capitalize on the future of investments in renewables, the future of investments in semiconductors, the future of investments in electric vehicles, and the mining of the materials that go into these three markets, as well as the defense business. We are driven by the opportunities that climate change presents to us, as well as the electrification of transportation. Our products provide grid support at the power consumption point of the electric vehicle. Our products also provide support at the mining and factories for the metals and materials used to build these vehicles.
We've evolved from being a very concentrated business with both customer and market concentration, to a more diverse business, while at the same time growing revenue and improving margins. We are focused on improving the financial performance of our business and continuing to deliver a diversified business and on making progress towards our longer-term priority of building a sustainable business. I think the team has done a terrific job of achieving this. When we look at our prospects and what our sales pipeline looks like, they're strengthening, not weakening. Orders are becoming larger, not smaller. The types of markets we serve are becoming more diverse, less concentrated. So when I look at the near term, say, the next year or so, I think our prospects are great.
We believe that our differentiated solutions and set of capabilities are a significant advantage that will allow us to serve our customers ever more efficiently. I want to thank our team for their hard work and support, and I look forward to reporting back to you at the completion of our fourth fiscal quarter and fiscal year-end. Gary, we'll now take questions from our analysts.
Operator (participant)
We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Eric Stein with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Hi, Daniel. Hi, John.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
... Hey, Eric.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Good morning. So maybe can we just start with wind? I could you just discuss, you've talked about it a little bit, but I, I just wanna make sure I'm clear on it, how you expect this, this 3 MW order, and I know it's payment dependent, but this, the order for the 3 MW control systems, how you see that playing out here in calendar year 2024? Were you talking, fiscal Q1 and Q2, is when you would expect the majority of that?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, that's exactly right. I think it'll be roughly balanced between the two, the first two quarters. They want it as fast as possible. We're, we're at a point now where they're gonna be hand-to-mouth in the short term, and we wanna make sure we support them as best we possibly can, as quickly as we possibly can. But I don't wanna set your expectations too high, Eric. It even could leak a bit into the December quarter or our third quarter. It really depends upon our ability to manage our supply chain, but it really starts with them paying everything on time, which, to their credit, at least recently, they've been pretty good at. But I do wanna make sure that everybody-
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Mm-hmm
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
... on the call understands that risk.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Yep. Nope, understood. And then, just sticking with wind on Q3, right? I mean, that, your—the December quarter, I would assume that the majority of that is the 2 MW —I mean, systems for the 2 MW turbine, or there might be a little bit of 3 MW in there?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yes.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
How should we think about that?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
In Q3, and we're just starting to get ready to start to deliver on the beginnings of the order that we received back a couple quarters ago.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Okay.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
We're at a point now, Eric, kind of where we were early in the 2 MW, where we're gonna get, you know, hopefully a series of successive orders. Maybe they'll be similar in size, maybe they'll grow in size. But we actually have a chart in the slide deck where we try to show the history that we have for the 2 MW. We're hoping that we're gonna see that happen again with the 3, and all signs from India and from Inox lead us to believe that that's probably correct.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Okay. So, I mean, when we think about this, you know, nearly $6 million now, taking out the $8 million order for the 3 MW, right? I mean, is this kind of a representative number for, you know, primarily the 2 MW, and you layer the 3 on top? Or how do you think about kind of a quarterly run rate, again, knowing that you might have two quarters-
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah
Eric Stine (Analyst)
... that are higher, what that looks like here, you know, through FY 2024?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah. I think if you go back, let's look at the previous, say, three quarters and so, so, and look at that-
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Mm-hmm
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
... run rate. That's probably where we are with the two. I think there's some indications in the market that they're gonna sell more twos as well. But again, it, it's always hard with this customer to be able to forecast it. Part of why we have focused so much on grid is we love Inox, they're a great customer, but as their business slows down or starts up, their access to capital could either help or hamper their ability to deliver to their customers. So we wanna do everything we can to support them. We've been waiting for years for this business to start to come back, and I think that one of the key messages today, we really feel like the wind is at our back now, literally, in India, and we should have a strong, we think, 2024.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Yep. No, that's great. You've been. I know you've been waiting, waiting on that for quite some time. Maybe just turning to the Navy business. I know you've talked about it for quite some time, about looking to get into, you know, allied navies, new ship platforms. It seems to me like your commentary today, you know, was stronger than I've heard in the past. You know, curious if that's a misread on my part or if that was intentional, and, you know, kind of maybe next signpost we should look for?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, in communication, it's not what you say, what—it's what they hear, and you're hearing me. So clearly, we see more ships on the horizon. So, you know, the two... kind of three take-home messages here are, we have a great new energy business that's supported by the backlog. We're converting orders at a very consistent rate. We feel the winds at our back, particularly in India, and we see more ships on the horizon and a clear path to them. These are not words you heard me say last quarter, the quarter before that. It is a different feeling. It is a different message today.
Eric Stine (Analyst)
Okay, I'll turn it over. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
The next question is from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Colin Rusch (Analyst)
Thanks so much, guys. You know, could you talk about the impact of pricing on your year-over-year growth here in the quarter, and how we should think about the mix of unit growth and pricing growth driving top line, you know, acceleration in calendar 2024?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Well, we hope that the pricing initiatives are behind us. We've been able to reconcile cost and pricing. We've done a really good job, we think, to try to support our customers' needs at the same time. So when we look at, you know, the growth is, part of it is pricing, part of it is just the absolute value of the projects are greater. Many projects in renewables, many projects in semiconductor, and many projects in mining, are leveraging not only one product line, but maybe two or three, right? So the average order size for a project is going up as well. So pricing is a piece of it. I wouldn't expect that to continue. I guess if there's more inflationary pressure, we'll have to respond to those things.
But we've been able to work, I think, very well with our customers to ensure timely delivery and a price that we think still is competitive. We are a premium price product. We do have proprietary content in everything we do, so that should garner that. But the growth going forward, I think, is really, Colin, gonna be reflective of the pipeline and the ability for us to convert those orders, and that the order sizes are getting larger.
Colin Rusch (Analyst)
... Fantastic. And then on the, on the supply side, you know, obviously, you've gone through, you know, some lumpiness in terms of the supply availability and some dislocations. As that normalizes and you guys scale a little bit, can you talk a little bit about your ability to start driving costs out of the, the products and, you know, some incremental cost efficiencies from a manufacturing perspective as well?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, I think those common, and I've said this on previous calls, when you start doing multiples of the same thing, and we're seeing that in different parts of the business, obviously, ECS and SPS reflect that because you're making copies over and over again. That as you see that demand, it'll allow rise, it'll allow us to potentially look at our supply chain and look for cost reduction. You know, I'm very optimistic in wind that as they grow their volume, that we're gonna be there for them as a good partner to make sure we're providing proper pricing. So I think in the near term, most of the inflationary pressures are behind us. I won't say all, because there's always that risk. I think a lot of the availability pressures have been reduced.
We're seeing lead times start to shrink, and we're seeing customers start to push us to be able to deliver faster, which is, I think, a great indicator of the health of the business.
Colin Rusch (Analyst)
Great. And then the final one for me is just around maturity and evolution of customer conversations, in lieu of the ongoing performance in Chicago with the grid solution. Can you talk a little bit about how many folks you're talking to, how those conversations are maturing, and how, you know, how to think about the potential for another demonstration project or a follow-on order?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, I don't wanna do another demonstration, and I don't see the first one as a demonstration at all. It's an asset that's in the grid. It's got full rate recovery. It's an operational capability that the utility wants, and they wanna do more of. You're probably hearing me start to, I'll say, quiet my rhetoric with REG. For those of you that have been around me for a while, I think you understand what that means. I'm very excited about REG and the feedback we're getting from customers, particularly in the U.S. We really do have a solution that's needed right now. So I think as we make more progress, demonstrable progress there, we'll give more updates, but I don't have anything else to say today.
Colin Rusch (Analyst)
Great. Thanks so much, guys.
Operator (participant)
Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. The next question is from Justin Clare with Roth MKM. Please go ahead.
Justin Clare (Analyst)
Hi, thanks for taking our question.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Hey, Justin.
Justin Clare (Analyst)
Hey, so I guess first off, you did mention that order sizes are getting larger here. I was wondering if you could just talk about what's driving those larger orders. Is this a function of, you know, a more comprehensive product portfolio? Are there other factors? Are your customers' project sizes increasing? Maybe you can just give a little color on that.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, I think both are contributing factors. I think the first one is the main driver. We're now bidding in the projects with a larger scope. We're now becoming known in the market as being able to deliver all of that as kind of a one-stop shop, and that, I think, is helping us. But I think also a lot of the work that we're looking at are larger projects, be it on the renewable side or the industrial side as well. So, those are all good indicators we think about the health of the business.
Justin Clare (Analyst)
Okay, great. And then how do you think about potentially further expanding that product portfolio, whether it's, you know, in-house development of products or looking at acquisition that could, you know, further support your products?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, I think given the fact we've had this appetite, we have a demonstrated track record now recently of doing these three deals that have helped expand. The first one was more content for the Navy, and then we've talked a lot about the last two over the previous couple of years here. We're known in the market as a good company to work with and potentially be an acquirer. We're getting a lot of inbound traffic in that. So we wanna, you know, be choosy about what we do and try to extend the business. We wanna grow, and if acquiring more content allows us to grow more quickly, then we think that's something that we should certainly consider.
Justin Clare (Analyst)
Got it. Okay. And then, shifting gears a little bit here, you did mention that lead times seem to be improving in your supply chain. I think last quarter you had mentioned things moving from, you know, 15 months to potentially under 12 months for some projects or for some products. Was wondering, you know, how you see things trending ahead here? Do you see further improvements on the horizon? And then, you know, could this enable a acceleration in your ability to convert backlog to revenue?
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
Yeah, I think the potential is there. I think, our lead times are now closer to 9-15 months, depending upon the product line, which means that, you know, we can generate orders here, you know, this quarter, next quarter, and have some impact still on next fiscal year. So I think that's an important comment to make there. But we see a very robust pipeline of things that we're working on and trying to close. And, we're, you know, if you haven't figured it out, I'm tremendously excited and probably the most excited I've been about the prospects of the business, not just the results.
Justin Clare (Analyst)
All right. Well, that's, that's great to hear. I'll, I'll pass it on. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Daniel McGahn for any closing remarks.
Daniel McGahn (Chairman, President and CEO)
I just wanna make a few key points here. You know, our business hasn't been this strong, in this strong of a position, really, ever. When you think about the diversity, you think about the numbers and the performance. The business we've been talking about, we've now built. We've built a business that has generated cash from operations in the past two quarters and expects to do that again in the March quarter. We've been able to add new pieces and new markets, and we've been able to manage, as we discussed, pricing. We are growing. We think there's a series of tailwinds driven by climate change that are here to stay and are driving the new energy part of our business, including the reshoring of U.S. semiconductor capacity and the move to more electric vehicles. Wind in India appears to be strengthening.
We have a new product that's in our partners' hands, and they're about to grow and build their business with us again. It feels much different now. It feels like the winds at our back. We also see more ships on the horizon. We have made progress with our development efforts with the U.S. Navy. We see an expansion of this business coming, hopefully very soon. After all the work the team has done, to feel that moment is near, where we know what ships we could go on and see them on the horizon, it's quite exciting indeed. I can't stress that enough. Lastly, we've been able to successfully integrate multiple acquisitions and believe that could continue in our future to add more pieces, to attack our markets with more content.
A deeper, broader offering means as we continue to push for growth, we can get at it more quickly. I hope after hearing us speak today, you are as excited as we are about our business. For those of you that have asked me, why AMSC, and specifically, why now? We have demonstrated a business for multiple quarters that generates cash from operations. That business has multiple policy tailwinds. We feel the wind is at our back in India, and it appears it will start to blow harder. We see more ships on the horizon and see a clear path to them. We have successfully integrated multiple acquisitions and hope to continue that in the future. I'm looking forward to talking to you again when we report our fourth quarter and full year results. Thank you and good day.
Operator (participant)
The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.