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ASGN Inc (ASGN)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 2024 revenue was $0.985B, down 8.3% YoY, with gross margin 29.0% (+60 bps YoY); adjusted EBITDA margin 11.1% exceeded expectations despite slightly lower revenue versus guidance due to weaker federal software license sales .
- Versus company guidance, ASGN delivered a beat on adjusted EBITDA ($109.7M vs $103–$107M), adjusted EPS ($1.28 vs $1.18–$1.24), GAAP EPS ($0.95 vs $0.88–$0.94), and gross margin (29.0% vs 28.4%–28.6%); revenue missed the low-end ($0.985B vs $0.990–$1.010B) .
- Commercial consulting grew 6% YoY with strong bookings (book-to-bill 1.2x) while federal segment bookings returned to 1.1x TTM; management highlighted momentum in TMT and early signs of improvement at big banks on a billable-day adjusted basis .
- Strategic catalysts: announced TopBloc acquisition to expand ERP/Workday capabilities (~$150M FY25 revenue; high-teens EBITDA margin), and leadership transition with new President (ex-Accenture), reinforcing consulting scale and AI/cyber/data positioning .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Gross and adjusted EBITDA margins exceeded expectations due to mix shift toward high-margin commercial consulting and margin expansion within those revenues; consolidated GM 29.0% (+60 bps YoY) and adjusted EBITDA margin 11.1% .
- Commercial consulting revenues rose 6% YoY to $284.7M with book-to-bill 1.2x and double-digit bookings growth; TMT and Consumer & Industrial verticals grew YoY, evidencing resilient demand for cloud, data, cybersecurity and AI-led solutions .
- Management strengthened ERP capabilities via definitive agreement to acquire TopBloc (preferred Workday partner), expected to be immediately accretive on an adjusted basis, bolstering AI/data-led enterprise initiatives; “ASGN is positioned…in key areas like AI, cybersecurity, and data” .
What Went Wrong
- Revenue missed company guidance low-end primarily from lower-than-expected federal software license revenues (~$20–$30M shortfall) and delays in certain R&D projects due to continuing resolution; federal revenues fell 10.2% YoY to $292.3M .
- Assignment revenues declined 15% YoY to $408.0M amid continued softness in cyclically sensitive parts of commercial; overall consolidated revenue decreased 8.3% YoY .
- Federal license variability and procurement pacing raised execution risk intra-quarter; management cautioned agency-specific mixed dynamics and procurement choices to buy licenses direct, which carry little margin and can be “whimsical” .
Financial Results
Consolidated performance vs prior periods
Segment revenues and margins
KPIs and mix
Actual vs Q4 2024 company guidance
Drivers: revenue miss tied to lower federal license revenues vs plan; margin beat from mix shift and commercial consulting expansion .
Guidance Changes
Management flagged typical ~100 bps margin headwind in Q1 from payroll tax reset and no TopBloc contribution in Q1 guidance; TopBloc expected ~$150M FY25 revenue and high-teens EBITDA margin post-close .
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “In the fourth quarter, commercial consulting revenues grew by 6 percent year-over-year… Growth in IT consulting revenues contributed to an expansion in our margins, with gross and Adjusted EBITDA margins exceeding our expectations for the quarter.” — CEO Ted Hanson .
- “ASGN is poised for a dynamic start to 2025… positioning our solutions capabilities in key areas like AI, cybersecurity, and data… strategic actions position us well for anticipated demand.” — CEO Ted Hanson .
- “TopBloc… a leading, high-growth tech-enabled Workday consultant… will be nicely accretive to growth and margins… ERP systems own the data set… to deploy AI effectively across an organization.” — CEO Ted Hanson (Q&A) .
- “Gross margin… 29%, up 60 bps YoY… adjusted EBITDA margin… exceeded our guidance expectations… outperformance of our commercial and a higher mix of commercial revenues.” — CFO Marie Perry .
Q&A Highlights
- Federal license shortfall: Management quantified ~$20–$30M lower-than-expected license revenues driving the revenue miss; licenses carry little margin and procurement can shift direct-to-vendor .
- TopBloc strategy: Adds ERP/Workday capability, accretive to growth/margins; ~500 consultants; ~9 months of revenue consolidation in 2025 post-close; leverage to ~2.4x then delever with FCF .
- Commercial demand outlook: Early signs of improving activity; bookings acceleration; watching financial services as a bellwether; assignment business stability but no structural shift away from staffing .
- Guidance composition: Q1 margin seasonality (~100 bps); limited software licenses assumed; Q1 conditions similar to Q4 .
- Tariff exposure: Mexican delivery center services historically not subject to tariffs; monitoring policy and talent access considerations .
Estimates Context
- Wall Street (S&P Global) consensus for Q4 2024 was unavailable due to request limit constraints; comparisons to consensus cannot be provided at this time. We benchmarked results against management guidance instead, showing beats on adjusted EBITDA, adjusted/GAAP EPS, and gross margin, and a slight revenue miss .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Mix shift toward consulting continues to support margin resilience; commercial consulting up 6% YoY with bookings strength offers visibility even as broader IT spend lags .
- The revenue miss was primarily a low-margin federal license shortfall, not core services demand; margin beats are more indicative of underlying health than the modest revenue miss .
- TopBloc expands ASGN’s ERP/Workday footprint, enhancing data/AI relevance and potentially cross-selling across commercial and federal; expected ~$150M FY25 revenue and high-teens EBITDA margin .
- Federal pipeline normalized (TTM book-to-bill 1.1x; backlog >$3.1B), but license variability and agency-specific procurement choices remain a watch item near term .
- Early signs of improvement in big banks and TMT bolster medium-term commercial trajectory; assignment stabilization suggests a base from which consulting can lead the upturn .
- Near-term setup: Q1 2025 guidance embeds typical seasonality and cautious market assumptions; expect margin dip from payroll reset and no TopBloc contribution pre-close .
- Capital allocation remains balanced: active buybacks, disciplined leverage around 2.4x post-TopBloc, and focus on deleveraging with FCF before resuming repurchase cadence .