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ASGN Inc (ASGN)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 2024 revenue was $0.985B, down 8.3% YoY, with gross margin 29.0% (+60 bps YoY); adjusted EBITDA margin 11.1% exceeded expectations despite slightly lower revenue versus guidance due to weaker federal software license sales .
  • Versus company guidance, ASGN delivered a beat on adjusted EBITDA ($109.7M vs $103–$107M), adjusted EPS ($1.28 vs $1.18–$1.24), GAAP EPS ($0.95 vs $0.88–$0.94), and gross margin (29.0% vs 28.4%–28.6%); revenue missed the low-end ($0.985B vs $0.990–$1.010B) .
  • Commercial consulting grew 6% YoY with strong bookings (book-to-bill 1.2x) while federal segment bookings returned to 1.1x TTM; management highlighted momentum in TMT and early signs of improvement at big banks on a billable-day adjusted basis .
  • Strategic catalysts: announced TopBloc acquisition to expand ERP/Workday capabilities (~$150M FY25 revenue; high-teens EBITDA margin), and leadership transition with new President (ex-Accenture), reinforcing consulting scale and AI/cyber/data positioning .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Gross and adjusted EBITDA margins exceeded expectations due to mix shift toward high-margin commercial consulting and margin expansion within those revenues; consolidated GM 29.0% (+60 bps YoY) and adjusted EBITDA margin 11.1% .
  • Commercial consulting revenues rose 6% YoY to $284.7M with book-to-bill 1.2x and double-digit bookings growth; TMT and Consumer & Industrial verticals grew YoY, evidencing resilient demand for cloud, data, cybersecurity and AI-led solutions .
  • Management strengthened ERP capabilities via definitive agreement to acquire TopBloc (preferred Workday partner), expected to be immediately accretive on an adjusted basis, bolstering AI/data-led enterprise initiatives; “ASGN is positioned…in key areas like AI, cybersecurity, and data” .

What Went Wrong

  • Revenue missed company guidance low-end primarily from lower-than-expected federal software license revenues (~$20–$30M shortfall) and delays in certain R&D projects due to continuing resolution; federal revenues fell 10.2% YoY to $292.3M .
  • Assignment revenues declined 15% YoY to $408.0M amid continued softness in cyclically sensitive parts of commercial; overall consolidated revenue decreased 8.3% YoY .
  • Federal license variability and procurement pacing raised execution risk intra-quarter; management cautioned agency-specific mixed dynamics and procurement choices to buy licenses direct, which carry little margin and can be “whimsical” .

Financial Results

Consolidated performance vs prior periods

MetricQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024Q4 2023
Revenues ($USD Billions)$1.035 $1.031 $0.985 $1.074
Gross Margin %29.1% 29.1% 29.0% 28.4%
Net Income ($USD Millions)$47.2 $47.5 $42.4 $50.3
Diluted EPS ($USD)$1.02 $1.06 $0.95 $1.06
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)$117.1 $116.9 $109.7 $121.0
Adjusted EBITDA Margin %11.3% 11.3% 11.1% 11.3%

Segment revenues and margins

SegmentQ2 2024 Revenue ($MM)Q3 2024 Revenue ($MM)Q4 2024 Revenue ($MM)Q2 2024 GM%Q3 2024 GM%Q4 2024 GM%
Commercial$725.7 $718.8 $692.7 32.7% 32.8% 32.6%
Federal Government$309.0 $312.2 $292.3 20.6% 20.7% 20.5%
Total$1,034.7 $1,031.0 $985.0 29.1% 29.1% 29.0%

KPIs and mix

KPIQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
IT Consulting Revenues ($MM, % of total)$590.5, 57.1% $597.2, 57.9% $577.0, 58.6%
Commercial Consulting Revenues ($MM)$281.5 $285.0 $284.7
Assignment Revenues ($MM)$444.2 $433.8 $408.0
Commercial Consulting Bookings ($MM)$282.5 (TTM book-to-bill 1.1x) $348.2 (Q4 book-to-bill 1.2x; TTM 1.1x)
Federal New Contract Awards ($MM)TTM $949.1 (book-to-bill 0.7x) $666.4 (Q3 book-to-bill 2.1x; TTM 0.9x) $283 (Q4 book-to-bill 1.0x; TTM 1.1x)
Federal Backlog~$3.1B (coverage ~2.5x TTM revs) ~$3.1B (coverage ~2.5x) >$3.1B (coverage ~2.5x)
Free Cash Flow ($MM)$85.4 $127.9 $88.9
Share Repurchases1.1M shares; $108.0M 1.0M shares; $95.6M 0.5M shares; $43.9M

Actual vs Q4 2024 company guidance

MetricGuidance Q4 2024Actual Q4 2024Result
Revenues ($MM)$990–$1,010 $985.0 Miss
Adjusted EBITDA ($MM)$103–$107 $109.7 Beat
Adjusted EPS ($)$1.18–$1.24 $1.28 Beat
GAAP Diluted EPS ($)$0.88–$0.94 $0.95 Beat
Gross Margin %28.4%–28.6% 29.0% Beat
Effective Tax Rate %28.0% 28.5% implied by guidance; actual provision $16.9M on pre-tax $59.3M In line

Drivers: revenue miss tied to lower federal license revenues vs plan; margin beat from mix shift and commercial consulting expansion .

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Revenues ($MM)Q4 2024$990–$1,010 Actual $985.0 Miss vs guidance
Adjusted EBITDA ($MM)Q4 2024$103–$107 Actual $109.7 Beat vs guidance
Adjusted EPS ($)Q4 2024$1.18–$1.24 Actual $1.28 Beat vs guidance
GAAP EPS ($)Q4 2024$0.88–$0.94 Actual $0.95 Beat vs guidance
Gross Margin %Q4 202428.4%–28.6% Actual 29.0% Beat vs guidance
Revenues ($MM)Q1 2025$950–$970 New
SG&A ($MM)Q1 2025$204.7–$208.3 New
Gross Margin %Q1 202528.5%–28.7% New
GAAP EPS ($)Q1 2025$0.63–$0.69 New
Adjusted EBITDA ($MM)Q1 2025$91–$95 New
Adjusted EPS ($)Q1 2025$0.91–$0.97 New
Effective Tax Rate %Q1 202528.0% New

Management flagged typical ~100 bps margin headwind in Q1 from payroll tax reset and no TopBloc contribution in Q1 guidance; TopBloc expected ~$150M FY25 revenue and high-teens EBITDA margin post-close .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 2024)Previous Mentions (Q3 2024)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
AI/technology initiativesPositioning for AI use cases; focus on cloud/data/cyber; consulting ~57% revenues Multiple AI/data examples; federal AIML awards; consulting bookings solid (TTM 1.1x) GenAI chatbot, GRC certifications, retail onboarding CoE; partnerships (AWS/Azure/ServiceNow); TopBloc adds ERP/Workday data footprint Strengthening; more tangible pilots in commercial; ERP adds leverage
Macro demand/IT spendingClients cautious; Q2 macro consistent with Q1 Stable demand; no meaningful accelerations; watching confidence/interest rates/election Business confidence improving but IT spend not fully rebounded; commercial demand similar to Q3 Gradual, steady; inflection not yet
Federal segmentTTM book-to-bill 0.7x; year-over-year decline due to fewer licenses Q3 book-to-bill 2.1x; backlog ~$3.1B (2.5x coverage); 100% recompete win rate Q4 quarter book-to-bill 1.0x; TTM back to 1.1x; licenses weaker; backlog >$3.1B Bookings normalized; license variability persists
Financial services verticalRegional banks up sequentially; big banks flat Big banks stabilizing; low teens mix Early improvement in big banks on billable-day adjusted basis Improving signals
Tariffs/regulatoryMexican delivery center services not subject to tariffs historically; watching new admin/DOGE initiatives Monitor policy; limited direct tariff risk

Management Commentary

  • “In the fourth quarter, commercial consulting revenues grew by 6 percent year-over-year… Growth in IT consulting revenues contributed to an expansion in our margins, with gross and Adjusted EBITDA margins exceeding our expectations for the quarter.” — CEO Ted Hanson .
  • “ASGN is poised for a dynamic start to 2025… positioning our solutions capabilities in key areas like AI, cybersecurity, and data… strategic actions position us well for anticipated demand.” — CEO Ted Hanson .
  • “TopBloc… a leading, high-growth tech-enabled Workday consultant… will be nicely accretive to growth and margins… ERP systems own the data set… to deploy AI effectively across an organization.” — CEO Ted Hanson (Q&A) .
  • “Gross margin… 29%, up 60 bps YoY… adjusted EBITDA margin… exceeded our guidance expectations… outperformance of our commercial and a higher mix of commercial revenues.” — CFO Marie Perry .

Q&A Highlights

  • Federal license shortfall: Management quantified ~$20–$30M lower-than-expected license revenues driving the revenue miss; licenses carry little margin and procurement can shift direct-to-vendor .
  • TopBloc strategy: Adds ERP/Workday capability, accretive to growth/margins; ~500 consultants; ~9 months of revenue consolidation in 2025 post-close; leverage to ~2.4x then delever with FCF .
  • Commercial demand outlook: Early signs of improving activity; bookings acceleration; watching financial services as a bellwether; assignment business stability but no structural shift away from staffing .
  • Guidance composition: Q1 margin seasonality (~100 bps); limited software licenses assumed; Q1 conditions similar to Q4 .
  • Tariff exposure: Mexican delivery center services historically not subject to tariffs; monitoring policy and talent access considerations .

Estimates Context

  • Wall Street (S&P Global) consensus for Q4 2024 was unavailable due to request limit constraints; comparisons to consensus cannot be provided at this time. We benchmarked results against management guidance instead, showing beats on adjusted EBITDA, adjusted/GAAP EPS, and gross margin, and a slight revenue miss .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Mix shift toward consulting continues to support margin resilience; commercial consulting up 6% YoY with bookings strength offers visibility even as broader IT spend lags .
  • The revenue miss was primarily a low-margin federal license shortfall, not core services demand; margin beats are more indicative of underlying health than the modest revenue miss .
  • TopBloc expands ASGN’s ERP/Workday footprint, enhancing data/AI relevance and potentially cross-selling across commercial and federal; expected ~$150M FY25 revenue and high-teens EBITDA margin .
  • Federal pipeline normalized (TTM book-to-bill 1.1x; backlog >$3.1B), but license variability and agency-specific procurement choices remain a watch item near term .
  • Early signs of improvement in big banks and TMT bolster medium-term commercial trajectory; assignment stabilization suggests a base from which consulting can lead the upturn .
  • Near-term setup: Q1 2025 guidance embeds typical seasonality and cautious market assumptions; expect margin dip from payroll reset and no TopBloc contribution pre-close .
  • Capital allocation remains balanced: active buybacks, disciplined leverage around 2.4x post-TopBloc, and focus on deleveraging with FCF before resuming repurchase cadence .