DMC Global - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
May 1, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q1 2025 delivered sequential improvement: revenue $159.3M (+5% q/q, -5% y/y) and adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC $14.4M (+39% q/q), with consolidated gross margin expanding to 25.9% (from 20.8% in Q4).
- Results materially exceeded Wall Street consensus: revenue beat by ~$10.4M, EPS swung from a consensus loss to a profit, and EBITDA was well above estimates; key drivers were improved cost absorption at Arcadia and Dyna’s product reengineering/automation progress (see Estimates Context).
- Q2 2025 guidance introduced: sales $149–$157M and adjusted EBITDA $10–$13M; softer Arcadia billings post project completion, tariff-driven demand uncertainty at NobelClad, and stable Dyna well completions embedded in assumptions.
- Near-term catalysts revolve around execution of “back to basics” cost containment and manufacturing absorption at Arcadia, DynaStage 2.0 and automation ramp at Dyna, and tariff visibility impacting bookings at NobelClad.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Arcadia’s refocus on core commercial operations and cost control drove net sales of $65.6M (+9% q/q, +6% y/y) and a sharp EBITDA improvement; adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC rose to $5.6M (+149% q/q) with better manufacturing cost absorption.
- DynaEnergetics improved margins via product reengineering and automation: adjusted EBITDA $7.4M (+45% q/q) and margin 11.3% (+325 bps q/q), supported by DynaStage 2.0 and automation at Blum, TX.
- Consolidated gross margin expanded to 25.9% (from 20.8% in Q4), reflecting improved absorption and operational initiatives across businesses.
Quoted management: “Our first quarter was a solid start to 2025… we still saw meaningful progress on our operational improvement initiatives.”
What Went Wrong
- Demand uncertainty and tariffs pressured NobelClad bookings and backlog; backlog fell to $41M (from $49M in Q4) and adjusted EBITDA declined 7% q/q amid lower-margin global project mix.
- DynaEnergetics remained down y/y on pricing and unit volumes (net sales -16% y/y), with management flagging risk if oil stays in the $50s and frac stages decline.
- SG&A rose sequentially to $28.3M (from $25.1M) due to higher professional services, bad debt resets, and incentive compensation normalization, tempering operating leverage.
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Welcome to the DMC Global first quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Geoff High, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Geoff High (VP of Investor Relations)
Hello and welcome to DMC's first quarter conference call. Presenting today are DMC's Interim CEO, Jim O'Leary, and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Walter. I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that are based on our estimates, projections, and assumptions as of today's date and are subject to risks and uncertainties that are disclosed in our filings with the SEC. Our business is subject to certain risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in our forward-looking statements. DMC assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. Today's earnings release and a related presentation on our first quarter performance are available on the investors' page of our website located at dmcglobal.com. A webcast replay of today's presentation will be available at our website shortly after the conclusion of this call.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Jim O'Leary. Jim?
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Thanks, Geoff, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. Our first quarter was a solid start to 2025. Despite mounting external challenges, including tariffs, highly volatile and still softening macroeconomic conditions, and rapidly decreasing visibility into our core end markets, we still saw meaningful progress on our operational improvement initiatives. Consolidated first quarter sales were $159.3 million, up 5% sequentially, while adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC was $14.4 million, 39% higher than the fourth quarter. At Arcadia, our architectural building products business, sales were $65.6 million, a 9% sequential increase and a 6% year-over-year improvement versus last year. Increased sales of commercial exterior storefront products and interior framing systems more than offset a planned for and expected decline in high-end residential window and door sales.
The back-to-basics initiatives we began implementing in recent months around renewed focus on Arcadia's core commercial operations and a reinforced focus on cost containment contributed to improved year-over-year performance. DynaEnergetics, our energy products business, reported first quarter sales of $65.6 million, up 3% sequentially and down 16% compared to the first quarter of last year. The year-over-year decline primarily reflects product pricing adjustments made in response to the downturn in Dynas' core U.S. onshore energy market, where the number of active frac crews was down approximately 20% versus last year's first quarter. A mild understatement would be that oil prices at current levels do not enhance stability or confidence in Dynas' core markets. DynaEnergetics has responded by focusing on improving its operations and value engineering its product offerings.
The new automated assembly lines at our manufacturing center in Bloom, Texas, are now fully operational and expected to increase production capacity while supporting a leaner, more efficient workforce. We're also seeing benefits from cost and efficiency improvements at our main product offering. Turning to NobleClad, our composite metal business, first quarter sales were flat sequentially but up 5% year-over-year. Ongoing uncertainty around U.S. tariff policies and reciprocal actions has led customers to delay orders as they seek greater visibility. As a result, NobleClad's order backlog at the end of the first quarter stood at $41 million, down from $49 million at the end of the fourth quarter. Current quarterly activity indicates there's pent-up demand for repair and maintenance work in NobleClad's core downstream energy markets, and our manufacturing teams are ready to respond quickly when visibility improves and order volumes pick up.
I'll now turn the call over to Eric for a closer look at our first quarter results and our guidance for the second quarter. Eric?
Eric Walter (CFO)
Thank you, Jim. I'll start with a look at first quarter profitability. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC was $14.4 million. Inclusive of the Arcadia non-controlling interest, adjusted EBITDA was $18.1 million, while adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.4%, up sequentially from 7.8% in the fourth quarter and flat with the prior year. The sequential increase was primarily driven by improved results at Arcadia and Dyna. Arcadia reported first quarter adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC of $5.6 million. Before the non-controlling interest allocation, adjusted EBITDA was $9.3 million or 14.2% of sales, up from 6.2% in the fourth quarter and 9.5% in the prior year first quarter. The improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin primarily related to better absorption of manufacturing costs. Dyna delivered $7.4 million in adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter, up from $5.1 million in the fourth quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.3%, which reflects an improvement of 325 basis points due to the launch of a second-generation DynaStage perforating system and the completion of a major automation initiative at Dynas' manufacturing center in Bloom, Texas. NobleClad reported first quarter adjusted EBITDA of $5.4 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 19.2%, down from 20.6% in the fourth quarter and 21.9% in the prior year. The decline in the first quarter was primarily due to a higher mix of sales from global projects, which typically carry a lower gross margin. First quarter SG&A expense was $28.3 million, up sequentially from $25.1 million in the fourth quarter and relatively flat with the 2024 first quarter. The sequential increase reflects higher expenses for professional services, increased bad debt expense at Arcadia and Dyna, and a reset of incentive compensation to target levels across the businesses.
First quarter adjusted net income attributable to DMC was $2.2 million, while adjusted EPS attributable to DMC was $0.11. With respect to liquidity, we ended the first quarter with cash and cash equivalents of approximately $15 million. Total debt, inclusive of debt issuance costs, was approximately $72 million, and net debt was roughly $58 million. Our debt-to-adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio was 1.38, which remains well below our covenant threshold of 3.0. On a pro forma net debt basis, after subtracting cash, our leverage ratio at the end of the first quarter was 1.11. Now on to guidance. At Arcadia, we anticipate lower project billings due to the completion of a substantial portion of a large mixed-use project in California. Additionally, Arcadia's results are expected to be below the year-ago second quarter, which benefited from very strong demand for residential and commercial exterior products.
Since last year's second quarter, demand in the luxury residential market has declined significantly, reflecting persistently high interest rates, renewed inflation concerns, and broader macroeconomic uncertainty. For DynaEnergetics, second quarter guidance assumes sequentially stable well completion activity in its core U.S. onshore oil and gas markets. Finally, NobleClad sales are expected to slow sequentially as customers seek clarity on evolving U.S. and reciprocal tariff policies. Based on these assumptions, we expect second quarter consolidated sales will be in a range of $149 million-$157 million, and adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC will be in a range of $10 million-$13 million. I should note that our guidance is heavily influenced by macroeconomic concerns, volatility, and visibility issues created by current tariff policies and the current level of energy prices. It is subject to change both upward or downward as greater clarity emerges.
I'll turn it back to Jim for some additional comments.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Thanks, Eric. We ended 2024 by successfully extending the maturity of our Arcadia put call arrangement and stabilizing operations across our business portfolio. We are now entering 2025 focused on our primary near-term objectives: drive absolute EBITDA growth, generate strong free cash flow, and restore our balance sheet to full health through deleveraging over the coming quarters and year ahead. I want to thank our business leaders and the dedicated DMC associates around the world for the continued hard work and loyalty and for effectively executing our operating improvement strategies while it continues to be a very challenging environment. With that, operator, we would be glad to take any questions.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in a question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Gerry Sweeney with Roth Capital Partners. Please state your question.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
Good afternoon, Jim or Jeff. Thanks for taking my call.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Gerry, Gerry.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
Thanks, quarter. Start with that. Did want to also just ask a question about guidance, but in a larger sort of frame. I'm just curious, so sort of what are the puts and takes behind the guidance? Maybe specifically any impact from tariffs, higher steel costs, etc., in some of your results. It's sort of looking at the revenue and the EBITDA, it looks like we're sort of focusing in or implying a little bit of lower gross margin. To maybe frame that out a little bit better with guidance, how much is sort of tariffs impact from tariffs on calls versus maybe lower volumes and just end markets pricing because of tariffs?
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
There's a little bit in there for tariffs. You look at what we were able to cover by pulling in inventory, some of our own mitigation strategies. This would be the least quarter going forward for the year that's impacted by tariffs, just the timing of when they roll on. That ignores the fact that tariffs are creating demand disruption now. NobleClad, if you look at them last year, where they had pretty much spectacular results all year, our comments on them having lower order intake obviously suggests they're going to be a bit lower next year. That's baked into the guidance for the rest of this year. We specifically called out Arcadia, which is less impacted by tariffs than really any of our businesses.
It is impacted by interest rates, where last year was really the last tour off of the residential business, where we'd had pretty significant pull-in from, I'd say, pull-in of demand from strategies that the company had been employing since the acquisition. It led to a pretty strong quarter for the residential business at Arcadia. If you look at, and their numbers aren't out until Tuesday, if you look at most of the home builders, if you look at JELD-WEN last quarter, if you look at anybody in the construction business, interest rates at the level they've been at for the past year do impact demand a little bit, particularly on high-end residential. That's explicitly baked into our guidance. A little bit tariffs, a lot of demand disruption. As Eric said, if the tariffs go away and demand picks up, they should be better.
If they don't, we could certainly be worse. We have tried to explicitly factor in each one of those items. The key takeaway would be this is probably the lightest tariff impact we'll see in the quarter because of timing and because of some mitigation efforts we've been able to employ.
Eric Walter (CFO)
Gerry, the other thing I would add to it is that we're guiding to lower sales quarter over quarter. There is going to be a little less overhead absorption of manufacturing costs.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
That was sort of my next sort of implied question, but thanks. What about, obviously, your back to basics has been the, well, mantra recently, right? And Dyna had a phase I automation process. You're introducing DynaStage 2.0. There's some benefits there. I think you also talked about an automation phase II at DynaEnergetics. As well as in Arcadia, Jim Schladen just came back. Where are we in terms of additional opportunity taking costs out on both those segments? I think Dyna is probably a little bit further along, but I'm curious about Arcadia as well.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Arcadia really is about fixing the residential business, refocusing on the commercial business. Jim is definitely focused on cost containment to a much greater extent than the company's been in the last couple of years. Are we in early innings? Probably. We're not going to quantify what the total impact would be. This is not a program. This is the way of life until we get the Arcadia put call taken care of.
Eric Walter (CFO)
Yeah. I'd say on the.
Yeah. Sorry. Just to answer the question on the Dyna side. We've had some impact in Q1 from the product re-engineering that we referenced earlier. The automation is coming online in Q2. We haven't fully achieved all those savings. The counterbalance of that is that the business is going to be impacted by tariffs. It's really hard for us to predict how much of those savings are going to fall to the bottom line.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
If DynaStage 2.0 has a smaller form factor, uses less steel, does that make you a little bit more competitive against competitors?
Eric Walter (CFO)
It does.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
Competitors on steel costs. Yeah.
Eric Walter (CFO)
Yeah, I can't comment on the supply chain for our competitors, but for Dyna it definitely will help relative to what the product looked like this time last year. There's just less steel to be subject to a tariff.
Gerry Sweeney (Managing Director)
Yeah. Okay. I'll jump back in queue. Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from Ken Newman with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.
Ken Newman (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Hey, thanks. Good evening, guys.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Hey, Ken.
Eric Walter (CFO)
Hey, Ken.
Ken Newman (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Hey. Eric, maybe for my first question, is there any way you can help size up just how much the large California commercial project added to the first quarter EBITDA in Arcadia? I am just trying to think about that sequential EBITDA margin for that segment at the midpoint of the two-Q guide. Do you think that business could still be profitable at the operating income level in two-Q? Just any help there would be appreciated.
Eric Walter (CFO)
Yeah. I mean, that was the commercial side of our business. And yes, it'll be profitable in Q2. It's the largest part of our business. We haven't commented publicly on the size of that project, but it was a relatively large project for us, one of the larger ones in the last two to three years that substantially is complete. That'll impact the top line. Obviously, will impact EBITDA in Q2 as well.
Ken Newman (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. That's helpful. Maybe circling back kind of to tariffs, obviously, we're starting to see some maybe early signs of suppliers pushing price up at the early end of the supply chain. I'm curious if you're seeing any of that from your own suppliers. Just what are you embedding for organic price this quarter and your ability to push price in the back half of the year?
Eric Walter (CFO)
Yeah. We're continuing to evaluate the supply chain really across all three of the businesses. I'd say it's difficult right now to predict how we're going to be able to impact that through the next quarter as well as the second half of the year. Certainly something we're looking at, but really difficult to assess right now.
Ken Newman (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Understood.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. A reminder to the audience, if you'd like to ask a question, press star one on your phone. To remove your question from the queue, press star two on your phone. Our next question comes from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel. Please state your question.
Stephen Gengaro (Managing Director)
Thanks and good afternoon, everybody. Just a quick one to start. You had released something, I think, a couple of weeks back on a tariff surcharge on the Dyna business. And I'm just curious how that has gone so far and just kind of what you're seeing in the perf gun market as far as pricing is concerned, given some of the cross currents we're dealing with right now.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
We've had some success passing it along as a surcharge, not 100%. We're having discussions with a number of our customers about what the gain sharing or what the pain sharing is probably a better way to put it is going to be. Given how many private competitors we have and how visible our numbers are standalone in our financials, commenting on price increases isn't a great policy for a company like us. We're having some success passing the surcharge along, not total success. We've recovered part of it from the supply chain thanks to partnership with our suppliers. We're still in discussions with some of our customers. The guidance reflects more than 50% recovery of what we've got out there. As a policy matter, we've got it out there as a surcharge because when the tariffs go away, the surcharge goes away.
That way, there's no risk of it being permanently embedded in the eyes of our customers as a price increase. It's really pain sharing.
Stephen Gengaro (Managing Director)
Okay. That's fair. When we think about what we're hearing from a lot of the upstream players and the crude price is obviously soft and we're looking at kind of a second half that at this point maybe looks like it'll be down somewhat year-over-year, North American activity probably down. How do you think the Dyna business performs in the second half of the year? I'm not asking you for guidance because I'm not asking you to set the parameters, but if rig count drops by 50-75 rigs over the next 12 months or next two to three quarters, do you think you'll outperform? How do you think margins react? Is there a way to frame it in that kind of a scenario?
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
If oil stays in the 50s and rig count goes down, frac stages go down, obviously our business is going to be softer. Right now, we're expecting it to be flat to modestly down. Could be substantially worse if the end markets are substantially worse.
Stephen Gengaro (Managing Director)
Okay. Okay. One other quick one, and I imagine you won't have a comment, but I get asked about this all the time, so I'm going to ask you. What's going on with the whole Steel Connect situation? Is there any update you can give even at a high level?
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
There are larger shareholders. We have conversations with them periodically. I think you find out contemporaneously, if not shortly thereafter, whenever they have a public release, which there has not been in a while. Other than they are our larger shareholder, and we appreciate their patronage, there really is nothing to report.
Stephen Gengaro (Managing Director)
Okay. Great. Thank you for the color.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
You're welcome, Stephen.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time. I'll hand the floor back to Jim O'Leary, CEO, for any closing remarks. Thank you.
Jim O'Leary (Interim CEO)
Operator, thank you. And thanks for those of you who participated in the call today. We will talk in a couple of months.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. With that, we conclude today's call. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.