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CULLEN/FROST BANKERS, INC. (CFR)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 2024 delivered solid linked-quarter growth: tax-equivalent net interest income rose 2.0% QoQ to $433.7M, average deposits returned to growth (+2.8% QoQ), and average loans rose 1.3% QoQ; NIM slipped 3 bps to 3.53% on lower loan/Fed balance yields partly offset by lower deposit costs .
- Asset quality remained healthy with net charge-offs of $14.0M (27 bps annualized) and nonaccruals down to $78.9M (38 bps of loans), while the ACL/loans ratio held at 1.30% .
- Management initiated 2025 guidance: NII growth +4–6%, NIM +~10 bps vs. 2024 (3.53%), average loans +5–9%, average deposits +2–3%, noninterest income +1–2%, noninterest expense high-single-digit growth, net charge-offs 20–25 bps, and tax rate 15–16% .
- Capital deployment/catalysts: maintained $0.95 dividend and authorized a new $150M share repurchase program; also planning ~$4B of 2025 securities purchases (about half in Q1), funded by liquidity and maturing/callable cash flows .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
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What Went Well
- Deposits re-accelerated: average deposits +2.8% QoQ and +1.7% YoY; average NIB DDA +2.9% QoQ, reflecting regained momentum into year-end .
- PPNR drivers firm: tax-equivalent NII +$8.6M QoQ to $433.7M; TE NIM resilient at 3.53% despite rate headwinds; noninterest income +$9.1M YoY, led by trust & investment management and service charges .
- Consumer/expansion success: consumer loans up $610M in 2024 (+21% YoY) with nine consecutive quarters of 20%+ growth; expansion since 2018: $2.4B deposits, $1.8B loans, 59k+ new households; no reliance on FHLB/brokered deposits .
- Quote: “We continue to see excellent results with our organic growth strategy… what you see is what you get” — Phil Green .
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What Went Wrong
- NIM dipped 3 bps QoQ, driven by lower yields on Fed balances and loans; partly offset by lower deposit costs; unrealized AFS losses widened to $1.56B (up $429M QoQ) as rates moved during the quarter .
- Credit cost ticked up vs. Q3: credit loss expense $16.2M (vs. $19.4M Q3 but higher net charge-offs $14.0M vs. $9.6M), though still modest by historical standards .
- Expense intensity remains elevated: Q4 noninterest expense $336.2M vs. $313.7M ex-FDIC in Q4’23 (+7.2% YoY ex-surcharge), reflecting people/tech/expansion investments; management expects high-single-digit expense growth again in 2025 .
Financial Results
Core P&L and Profitability
Balance Sheet Averages
Asset Quality
Capital
Yields and Costs
Notes: Company did not report formal “segments”; key revenue drivers are net interest income and diversified fee income categories .
Guidance Changes
Additional capital actions: $0.95 Q1’25 dividend declared; authorized up to $150M share repurchase through Jan 28, 2026 .
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “We continue to see excellent results with our organic growth strategy… what you see is what you get.” — Phil Green, on balance sheet quality and organic expansion .
- “Our current outlook [for 2025] includes two 25 bp cuts… we expect NII growth of 4%–6% and NIM to improve ~10 bps vs. 2024.” — Dan Geddes on 2025 framework .
- “Deposit beta will be in that ~45% range on a cumulative basis… we treated customers fairly on the way up and we’re continuing that on the way down.” — Management on pricing posture .
- “We’re looking at around a $4B investment purchase strategy in 2025, utilizing about half in Q1.” — Management on securities deployment; >$2B maturities/calls/prepayments expected .
- “We’re in growth mode… investments are helping us reduce risk and get better; expect expense growth to moderate as we approach the ‘reaping’ phase.” — Management on operating leverage timeline .
Q&A Highlights
- Loan growth: guide mid- to high-single digits (CFO acknowledged 5–9% range), with consumer strength and CRE paydowns as a headwind; pipelines/commitments healthy into 2025 .
- Securities strategy:
$4B 2025 purchases ($2B in Q1), funded by ~$2B of maturing/callable/prepay cash flows and liquidity; aiming to benefit from positively sloped curve . - Deposit betas and rate sensitivity: cumulative betas around 45%; each 25 bp cut approximates ~$1.7M/month NII headwind “all else equal,” subject to deposit behavior and balance sheet mix .
- Expenses: 2025 high-single-digit growth as modernization continues; 2026 seen as an inflection toward moderation; disciplined approvals for FTE and >$100k capex .
- Capital allocation: dividend priority remains; buyback is opportunistic (utilized ~$50M around $100/share previously); open to evaluating preferred retirement but no current plans .
Estimates Context
- S&P Global (Capital IQ) consensus for Q4 2024 EPS and revenue was not retrievable at this time due to an API limit; therefore, we cannot present a beat/miss vs. consensus for the quarter. As a result, estimate comparisons are marked N/A in the tables above. Management’s 2025 guidance provides a basis for sell-side revisions (NII growth +4–6%, NIM +~10 bps, loans +5–9%, deposits +2–3%) .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Core earnings power steady: TE NII growth (+2% QoQ) with only a modest 3 bps NIM dip underscores durability; deposit costs are easing and deposit balances are growing again .
- 2025 framework constructive: management guiding to NII growth and modest NIM expansion despite anticipated Fed cuts; average loan growth mid- to high-single digits with consumer momentum .
- Credit normalizing but contained: NCOs at 27 bps, ACL stable at 1.30% of loans; nonaccruals improved QoQ—watch CRE paydowns and private credit bridge dynamics .
- Capital return levers: sustained dividend and new $150M buyback authorization add flexibility; CET1 at 13.62% provides capacity while funding growth/investment plans .
- Balance sheet optionality: ~$4B of planned 2025 securities purchases (half in Q1) to redeploy liquidity and maturing cash flows, while AOCI remains rate-sensitive (Q4 unrealized loss $1.56B) .
- Expense arc: high-single-digit 2025 opex growth reflects final leg of modernization/expansion; management targets moderation thereafter—operating leverage opportunity as investments harvest .
- Regulatory watch items: 2025 guide prudently embeds potential overdraft/interchange impacts (assumed H2 timing; interchange -$1M/month from July), reducing downside surprise risk if adopted .
Sources: Q4 2024 8‑K/press release and detailed tables ; Q4 2024 earnings call transcript remarks and Q&A and parallel transcript ; prior-quarter earnings materials for Q3 2024 and Q2 2024 .