Business Description
Eaton Corporation plc is an intelligent power management company that operates across several key business segments, providing a wide range of products for markets including data centers, utilities, industrial, commercial, machine building, residential, aerospace, and mobility . In 2023, Eaton reported revenues of $23.2 billion, serving customers in over 160 countries . The company's business strategy is aligned with global trends such as electrification, energy transition, and digitalization, positioning it for growth in these expanding markets .
- Electrical Americas - Focuses on electrical components, systems, and services, including power distribution, circuit protection, and lighting products.
- Electrical Global - Provides electrical components, systems, and services similar to Electrical Americas, serving a global market.
- Aerospace - Supplies systems for commercial and military use, contributing significantly to the aerospace industry.
- Vehicle - Includes drivetrain and powertrain systems, catering to the automotive sector.
- eMobility - Focuses on electrical components for vehicles, supporting the transition to electric mobility.
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Q3 2024 Summary
What went well
- Eaton's data center sales increased by 35% in Q3, accelerating from 27% in the prior quarter, with orders up 55% on a rolling 12-month basis and negotiations up 90%, indicating strong and accelerating growth in a key market .
- The company's win rate on mega projects stands at 40%, higher than their underlying market share in Electrical Americas, suggesting Eaton is securing more large and complex projects, which bodes well for future growth . With only 16% of the $1.6 trillion in announced mega projects having started, substantial opportunities remain ahead .
- Eaton expects to continue achieving pricing gains across its portfolio in 2025, contributing to revenue growth and margin expansion . Additionally, they see room for improvement in operating margins through operating leverage, manufacturing efficiencies, and ongoing restructuring programs .
What went wrong
- Electrical Americas margins are expected to decline in Q4, which is unusual given seasonal trends where margins typically increase, raising concerns about future profitability.
- Capacity constraints may limit growth, as significant capacity additions needed to meet demand will take 2-3 years to come online, potentially causing bottlenecks and hindering Eaton's ability to fully capitalize on strong market demand.
- Operating margins in the Electrical Global segment decreased by 310 basis points versus prior year, primarily due to a real estate transaction in 2023, indicating challenges in maintaining profitability in certain segments.
Q&A Summary
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Data Center Performance
Q: How did your data center business perform in Q3?
A: Our data center sales were up 35% in the quarter, accelerating from 27% growth in the prior quarter. Orders increased 55% on a rolling 12-month basis, and negotiations are up 90%, indicating strong momentum in the data center market. -
Operating Leverage and Margins
Q: Can you discuss the margin potential in Electrical Americas going forward?
A: We believe we haven't reached our maximum potential in Electrical Americas and see room for improvement. We have three levers: operating leverage on higher volume growth, improving manufacturing efficiencies in existing and new facilities, and ongoing restructuring programs that should deliver margin improvements. -
2025 Growth Outlook
Q: Will you outgrow the 6%-8% end market growth expected in 2025?
A: We have both an ambition and expectation to outgrow our end markets. While it's early and we're still planning for 2025, we should expect to grow faster than our end markets, though we're not ready to specify the exact magnitude yet. -
Increased CapEx Investment
Q: Is additional CapEx still focused on transformers and switchgear due to growth?
A: We've increased our incremental CapEx investment from $1 billion to $1.5 billion, with much of it going into markets like data centers and transformers where we've seen faster growth than anticipated. Customers are seeking multiyear commitments, reinforcing our decision to invest more to meet demand. -
Mega Project Pipeline Progress
Q: With only 16% of mega projects started, does 84% of orders remain ahead?
A: Yes, around 84% of mega projects are still ahead, implying significant future orders. Cancellations are at roughly 10%, lower than historical levels, making us optimistic about growth. While industry capacity challenges may extend project timelines, the progression remains positive with diverse projects across sectors like data centers, power, and commercial institutions. -
Utility Market Performance
Q: What are you seeing in the utility market; any signs of slowing?
A: Our utility business performed well in Q3, with revenues increasing mid-teens in Electrical Americas and low teens in Electrical Global. We expect the utility market to grow around 11% per year. Customers are investing in CapEx, and factors like grid resiliency efforts and increased power demand support strong long-term prospects. -
Backlog and Order Growth
Q: With backlog up 25% year-over-year, will revenue accelerate next year?
A: Orders have become lumpier due to mega projects, causing fluctuations in backlog. While volume growth could accelerate as capacity comes online, we may not see the same revenue acceleration because previous growth included significant pricing tailwinds that may not repeat. -
Capital Deployment and Data Center Cooling
Q: Is liquid cooling important for your data center offerings; considering M&A?
A: We have significant growth opportunities in data centers without focusing on adjacencies like cooling. While we wouldn't rule out considering it, it's not required for our continued growth. We're concentrating on organic growth and executing well on existing opportunities. Our deal pipeline is good, with data centers remaining a key focus. -
Relationships with Hyperscalers
Q: How are your relationships with hyperscalers affecting agreements?
A: We have strong relationships with all hyperscale data center customers, our fastest-growing segment. Due to capacity challenges, discussions now involve more forward commitments, leading to more transparent and committed commercial agreements as customers ensure they have the capacity for their growth. -
China Performance
Q: How is your business performing in China amid market concerns?
A: Our China business performed very well in Q3, with growth close to double digits. Our outlook remains robust, thanks to specific actions like joint ventures that expanded our capabilities and capacity. Our team in China is executing effectively, and we anticipate continued strength. -
Hurricane Impact
Q: What was the hurricane's impact on your operations in the Carolinas?
A: The hurricane caused challenges at the end of Q3 and beginning of Q4, slightly affecting revenues in our Electrical Americas business. However, it's behind us now, all facilities are operational, and the impact was a timing issue with revenue shifting into backlog. -
Capacity Expansion Timing
Q: When will new capacity from investments come online?
A: The new capacity will come online over the next 2 to 3 years, with some additions already in progress. As capacity comes online, we expect it to support volume growth, though start-up inefficiencies may impact margins initially. -
Vehicle Business Margins
Q: How are you offsetting weakness in vehicle end markets?
A: We've improved operational execution and managed our portfolio effectively in the vehicle business, leading to strong margins of 19.4% despite declining growth. We expect continued solid performance even if end markets remain weak. -
Short-Cycle Europe Outlook
Q: Is there evidence of recovery in Europe's short-cycle markets?
A: We believe we've reached the bottom in short-cycle markets like residential and MOEM in Europe. We're starting to see signs of improvement, and our outlook anticipates growth as interest rates stabilize and demand picks up. -
Manufacturing Footprint Expansion
Q: How is capacity expansion affecting your manufacturing footprint?
A: We're expanding capacity through a combination of adding lines to existing facilities, expanding current sites, and building new greenfield facilities. This mixed approach allows us to address capacity constraints effectively across different product areas. -
Past-Due Backlog Situation
Q: Is growing backlog causing bottlenecks in fulfilling orders?
A: Growing backlog reflects strong market demand and better visibility into customer requirements. Our past-due backlog has decreased, and we're working closely with customers. Lead times are competitive, and we're not a bottleneck for the industry. -
Hyperscaler Capacity Commitments
Q: Are hyperscalers’ CapEx plans affecting your capacity planning?
A: Yes, capacity challenges have led to hyperscalers seeking more forward commitments. This competitive dynamic is resulting in better, more committed commercial agreements, and we're adjusting our capacity planning to meet their growth needs. -
Margin Improvement in Electrical Global
Q: Will restructuring help close the margin gap with Electrical Americas?
A: Yes, restructuring efforts are focused on businesses with lower margins, including Electrical Global. While restructuring helps, returning to growth in Europe is crucial, as higher incremental margins on increased volume will significantly improve overall margins. -
Hedge Fund Investors’ Concerns
Q: What's your message to investors about future growth and margins?
A: We're confident about future growth due to strong market demand, significant investments in capacity, and our ability to outgrow end markets. Margins are expected to improve through operational efficiencies, restructuring, and leveraging higher volumes. [Overall] -
Aerospace Business Impact
Q: How are strikes affecting your aerospace business?
A: We've adjusted our Q4 outlook to account for potential impacts from ongoing strikes. While the timing of resolution is uncertain, we anticipate any delayed aircraft production will shift demand into 2025 and beyond. Our aftermarket business may see a positive mix impact over time.
Key Metrics
Revenue by Segment - in Millions of USD | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
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Electrical Americas | 2,294 | 2,538 | 2,594 | 2,672 | 10,098 | 2,690 | 2,877 | 2,963 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Products | 882 | 889 | 848 | 843 | 3,462 | 844 | 882 | 879 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Systems | 618 | 680 | 655 | 669 | 2,622 | 656 | 724 | 694 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Electrical Global | 1,500 | 1,569 | 1,503 | 1,512 | 6,084 | 1,500 | 1,606 | 1,573 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Aerospace | 803 | 848 | 867 | 895 | 3,413 | 871 | 955 | 946 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- OEM | 314 | 324 | 342 | 37 | 1,350 | 355 | 389 | 366 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Aftermarket | 264 | 297 | 302 | 32 | 1,183 | 291 | 329 | 341 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Industrial and Other | 225 | 226 | 223 | 204 | 878 | 225 | 237 | 239 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vehicle | 739 | 751 | 753 | 722 | 2,965 | 724 | 723 | 696 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Commercial | 448 | 459 | 452 | 425 | 1,784 | 435 | 454 | 426 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Passenger and Light Duty | 291 | 292 | 301 | 296 | 1,180 | 290 | 269 | 270 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
eMobility | 147 | 161 | 163 | 165 | 636 | 158 | 189 | 167 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hydraulics | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Electrical Products | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Electrical Systems and Services | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 5,483 | 5,866 | 5,880 | 5,967 | 23,196 | 5,943 | 6,350 | 6,345 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Revenue by Geography - in Millions of USD | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
United States | - | - | - | - | 14,071 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Canada | - | - | - | - | 949 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Latin America | - | - | - | - | 1,549 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Europe | - | - | - | - | 4,339 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Asia Pacific | - | - | - | - | 2,288 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rest of World | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 5,483 | - | 5,880 | - | 23,196 | 5,943 | 6,350 | 6,345 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
KPIs - Metric / Quarter | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
**Organic Change in Backlog (Electrical) (%)** | 39% | 22% | - | 18% | - | 31% | 29% | 26% | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Organic Change in Backlog (Aerospace) (%)** | 27% | 26% | - | - | - | 11% | 14% | 14% | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Organic Change in Backlog (%)** | - | - | 18% | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Organic Change in Customer Orders (Overall) (%)** | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Organic Change in Customer Orders (Electrical) (%)** | 13% | 7% | -3% | -4% | - | 8% | 11% | 16% | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Organic Change in Customer Orders (Aerospace) (%)** | 21% | 26% | 16% | 7% | - | 2% | 4% | 6% | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Book-to-Bill Ratio (Electrical) ** | >1.2 | 1.2 | >1.1 | 1.1 | - | 1.2 | 1.1 | 1.1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Book-to-Bill Ratio (Aerospace) ** | >1.25 | 1.2 | 1.2 | 1.1 | - | 1.1 | 1.1 | 1.1 |
Executive Team
Questions to Ask Management
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Given that only 16% of the announced mega projects have started and cancellations, though modest, are at 10%, how confident are you that the remaining projects will proceed as planned, and what contingency plans do you have if they do not?
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With the significant $1.5 billion investment in capacity, particularly in electrical products, can you elaborate on the potential risks of overcapacity if market demand slows, and how will this impact your return on invested capital?
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Your Electrical Global margins lag behind those of Electrical Americas. Beyond restructuring efforts, what specific strategies are you implementing to drive growth and margin improvement in Europe, especially given the current market challenges there?
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Given the growing backlog in your Electrical segment, are there risks of Eaton becoming a bottleneck in the industry, and how are you addressing potential capacity constraints and lead times to ensure timely delivery to your customers?
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With pricing moderation expected and historical pricing patterns returning, how confident are you in maintaining margin expansion in 2025, especially if input costs rise or market competition intensifies?
Past Guidance
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: Q4 2024 and FY 2024
Guidance:
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Organic Growth:
- FY 2024: 8% to 9% (low end expected due to aerospace strikes and vehicle market slowdown) .
- Q4 2024: 6% to 7% .
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Segment Margins:
- FY 2024: Increased by 20 basis points to 23.7% at the midpoint .
- Q4 2024: 23.6% to 24% .
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Adjusted EPS:
- FY 2024: $10.75 to $10.81 per share .
- Q4 2024: $2.78 to $2.84 per share .
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Capital Spending: $900 million to $1 billion .
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Share Repurchase: Approximately $2 billion .
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Tax Rate: Approximately 18% .
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Restructuring Program: Costs of $50 million with $75 million savings .
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2025 Initial View: End market growth of 6% to 8%, incremental margins of 30% to 35% .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: Q3 2024 and FY 2024
Guidance:
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Organic Growth:
- FY 2024: 8% to 9% .
- Electrical Americas: 11.5% to 13.5% .
- Aerospace: 10% to 12% .
- E-mobility: 17% to 23% .
- Q3 2024: 8% to 9% .
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Segment Margins:
- FY 2024: Increased by 50 basis points to 23.5% .
- Electrical Americas: 28.9% .
- Q3 2024: 23.5% to 23.9% .
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Adjusted EPS:
- FY 2024: $10.65 to $10.75 per share .
- Q3 2024: $2.73 to $2.83 per share .
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Free Cash Flow: $3.4 billion to $3.6 billion .
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Operating Cash Flow: $4.2 billion to $4.4 billion .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: Q2 2024 and FY 2024
Guidance:
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Organic Growth:
- FY 2024: 7% to 9% .
- Electrical Americas: 10% to 12% .
- Q2 2024: 6.5% to 8.5% .
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Segment Margins:
- FY 2024: Increased by 40 basis points to 23% .
- Electrical Americas: 28% .
- Q2 2024: 22.4% to 22.8% .
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Adjusted EPS:
- FY 2024: $10.20 to $10.60 per share .
- Q2 2024: $2.52 to $2.62 per share .
Q4 2023 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2023
- Guided Period: Q1 2024 and FY 2024
Guidance:
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Organic Growth:
- FY 2024: 6.5% to 8.5% .
- Electrical Americas and Aerospace: 9% to 11% .
- eMobility: 30% .
- Q1 2024: 6% to 8% .
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Segment Margins:
- FY 2024: 22.4% to 22.8% .
- Q1 2024: 21.3% to 21.7% .
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Adjusted EPS:
- FY 2024: $9.95 to $10.35 per share .
- Q1 2024: $2.21 to $2.31 per share .
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Operating Cash Flow: $4 billion to $4.4 billion .
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Share Repurchase: $1.5 billion to $2.5 billion .
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Restructuring Costs: $375 million over 3 years, with $175 million in 2024 and $50 million savings .