Business Description
FCX, or Freeport-McMoRan Inc., is a leading international mining company headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, with significant operations in North America, South America, and Indonesia. The company is one of the world's largest publicly traded copper producers and also has substantial reserves of gold and molybdenum . FCX's portfolio includes the Grasberg minerals district in Indonesia, which is one of the world's largest copper and gold deposits, as well as the Morenci minerals district in Arizona and the Cerro Verde operation in Peru . The company's primary product lines include copper, gold, and molybdenum, with copper being the most significant contributor to FCX's revenues .
- Copper - Produces and sells copper cathode, copper concentrate, and copper rod, which are major components of the company's revenue stream.
- Copper Cathode - Refined copper product used in various industrial applications.
- Copper Concentrate - Intermediate product used in smelting and refining processes.
- Copper Rod - Used in electrical applications and manufacturing.
- Gold - Extracts and sells gold in concentrate and anode slimes, contributing significantly to the company's revenue.
- Molybdenum - Mines and sells molybdenum, a metal used in steel alloys and other industrial applications.
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Q3 2024 Summary
What went well
- Efficiency initiatives in North America: FCX is implementing multifaceted initiatives to reduce costs, including improving equipment reliability, reducing downtime, and decreasing contractor costs by about 10%. These efforts are expected to lead to lower unit costs in the U.S. starting in 2025, even as grades may not improve.
- Significant growth potential at Safford Lone Star: FCX is conducting a pre-feasibility study to expand the Safford Lone Star operation, which has a resource base that could double current production from 300 million pounds to 600 million pounds of copper per year, potentially creating another cornerstone asset with long-lived resources and less stringent permitting requirements.
- Strong commitment to shareholder returns: FCX follows a capital allocation framework that allocates 50% of cash flow after capital expenditures to shareholder returns, including dividends and share buybacks. With a strong balance sheet and debt levels well below targets, FCX is positioned to execute this policy and enhance shareholder value.
What went wrong
- Rising costs and lower grades in North America operations have significantly increased unit costs, creating a big gap compared to South America operations, and grades may not improve.
- Significant contractor cost increases have further pressured margins, and while the company is reducing contractors by about 10%, these costs remain a challenge.
- Equipment downtime and premature equipment failures have impacted productivity, requiring focus on maintenance and reliability, which may affect operational efficiencies and increase costs.
Q&A Summary
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Smelter Fire Impact
Q: How will the smelter fire affect operations and insurance?
A: The smelter fire in Indonesia affected an essential area but not a large part of the facility. The company's focus is on completing repairs quickly. The insurance policy covers repair costs but does not include business interruption coverage. They expect to continue exporting concentrate during the repair period. -
Government Support and Export Extension
Q: Will the government grant export extensions after the smelter fire?
A: The government understands the situation and has been supportive, recognizing it's in everyone's interest to continue exports. The company expects to receive additional flexibility on export quotas and will work with the government to ensure continuity into 2025. -
Cost Reduction Initiatives
Q: What are the plans for reducing costs, especially in North America?
A: The company is focused on improving efficiency and productivity through maintenance, reducing contractor costs by about 10%, and leveraging technology. They expect North American costs to trend lower in 2025 despite grade challenges. -
Capital Allocation and M&A
Q: Will there be share buybacks or further M&A activity?
A: Following their cash flow allocation framework, they plan to deploy 50% of cash flow to shareholder returns, including share buybacks. They remain open to opportunistic acquisitions like increasing their stake in Cerro Verde and are monitoring the market for M&A opportunities but focus primarily on organic growth. -
2025 CapEx Outlook
Q: How should we view 2025 capital expenditures?
A: 2025 CapEx is expected to be similar to 2024, excluding the smelter. They foresee no significant increases but will continue investments to de-risk projects like Bagdad and evaluate opportunities without major changes to capital plans. -
Updates on Major Projects
Q: What is the status of major projects like Bagdad and Lone Star?
A: The Bagdad expansion can be executed in the near term, with ongoing investments to benefit the long-term operation. Studies for Lone Star are underway and expected next year. They aim to allocate capital to the most valuable projects and can pursue multiple projects concurrently. -
Restricted Cash Policy
Q: Will the restricted cash policy in Indonesia continue?
A: Yes, the policy requiring 30% of export proceeds to be held in Indonesian banks for 90 days will continue beyond the smelter startup unless changed by regulation. It's a measure affecting all exporters in Indonesia. -
Cerro Verde Stake Increase
Q: Are there opportunities to increase your stake in Cerro Verde?
A: The recent stake increase was opportunistic. They are interested in buying more if opportunities arise, depending on willing sellers, as Cerro Verde is a high-quality asset that's difficult to replicate. -
Smaller Projects Update
Q: Any updates on smaller projects like Lone Star and Atlantic Copper?
A: The Lone Star oxide expansion will be completed around 2025, sustaining 300 million pounds of copper per year. The Atlantic Copper recycling project is under construction, expected to be operational next year, and will enhance value by recycling electronic scrap. -
Progress at Grasberg
Q: How is the cleanup and equipment placement at Grasberg progressing?
A: Significant progress has been made at Grasberg. Operations are going well, with the team exceeding forecasts, improving mill throughput, and maintaining strong grades.
Key Metrics
Revenue by Segment - in Millions of USD | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
North America Copper Mines | 1,670 | 1,590 | 1,657 | 1,399 | 6,316 | 1,502 | 1,536 | 1,591 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
South America Operations | 1,436 | 1,148 | 1,244 | 1,113 | 4,941 | 1,136 | 1,511 | 1,316 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Indonesia Operations | 1,368 | 2,237 | 2,095 | 2,737 | 8,437 | 2,825 | 2,268 | 2,982 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Africa Mining | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Molybdenum Mines | 223 | 150 | 147 | 2,948 | 3,468 | 145 | 1,036 | 918 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rod & Refining | 1,529 | 1,473 | 1,566 | -2,563 | 2,005 | - | 507 | 1,560 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atlantic Copper Smelting & Refining | 756 | 748 | 680 | 3,721 | 5,905 | - | 498 | 759 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Corporate, Other & Eliminations | (1,593) | (2,087) | (1,597) | - | 0 | (1,459) | - | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
U.S. Oil & Gas Operations | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Other Mining, Corporate, Other & Eliminations | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Copper | 4,039 | 4,499 | 4,759 | 3,844 | 17,141 | - | 4,444 | 5,022 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Cathode | 1,327 | 1,358 | 1,331 | - | - | 1,941 | - | 2,070 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Concentrate | 1,587 | 2,185 | 2,365 | - | - | 1,818 | - | 1,786 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Rod and Other Refined Copper Products | 921 | 884 | 992 | - | - | 953 | - | 1,012 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Purchased Copper | 204 | 72 | 71 | - | - | 166 | - | 154 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gold | 531 | 999 | 854 | 1,044 | 3,428 | 1,168 | 818 | 1,394 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Molybdenum | 592 | 491 | 479 | 266 | 1,828 | 421 | 130 | 454 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Silver and Other | 133 | 170 | 136 | - | - | 149 | 42 | 169 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Adjustments to Revenues | (94) | (422) | (404) | - | - | - | - | (249) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 5,389 | 5,737 | 5,824 | 5,905 | 22,855 | 6,321 | 6,624 | 6,790 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Revenue by Geography - in Millions of USD | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
North America | 129 | 40 | 39 | 7,056 | 7,264 | 1,491 | 23 | 1,591 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
South America | 1,192 | 973 | 1,025 | -2,762 | 428 | 1,189 | 1,329 | 1,316 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Indonesia | 1,199 | 2,039 | 2,030 | -4,501 | 767 | 3,203 | 2,185 | 2,982 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atlantic Copper | 749 | 744 | 472 | -714 | 1,251 | 673 | 898 | 765 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Switzerland | - | - | - | - | 3,971 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Japan | - | - | - | - | 3,431 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Singapore | - | - | - | - | 1,178 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- China | - | - | - | - | 1,081 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Germany | - | - | - | - | 714 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Philippines | - | - | - | - | 396 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- India | - | - | - | - | 354 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- South Korea | - | - | - | - | 267 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Egypt | - | - | - | - | 229 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- United Kingdom | - | - | - | - | 171 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Other | - | - | - | - | 1,353 | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Africa | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Molybdenum Mines | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rod & Refining | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
U.S. Oil & Gas Operations | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Other Mining & Eliminations | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Corporate & Other | 597 | 478 | - | - | - | -1,235 | - | -1,567 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 5,389 | 5,737 | 5,824 | 5,905 | 22,855 | 6,321 | 6,624 | 6,790 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
KPIs - Metric / Period | FY 2013 | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 |
**Gross Profit per Pound of Copper** | $1.22 | $0.94 | $0.72 | $0.40 | - | $0.51 | $0.96 | $0.57 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Gross Profit per Pound of Molybdenum** | $13.47 | $4.69 | $1.85 | $2.48 | - | $1.26 | -$1.71 | -$4.17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Copper Sales (millions of pounds)** | 832 | 1,029 | 1,100 | 1,100 | - | 1,100 | 931 | 1,000 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Gold Sales (thousands of ounces)** | 270 | 495 | 399 | 549 | - | 568 | 361 | 558 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Silver Sales (millions of ounces)** | 1.0 | 1.1 | 0.9 | 0.8 | - | 0.9 | 0.9 | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Average Realized Price per Ounce of Silver** | $23.29 | $22.96 | $23.37 | $23.90 | - | $28.70 | $30.11 | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Molybdenum Sales (millions of pounds)** | 19 | 20 | 20 | 22 | - | 20 | 21 | 19 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Leach Ore Placed in Stockpiles (metric tons per day)** | 613,200 | 724,100 | 688,600 | 740,500 | - | 617,400 | 650,300 | 551,200 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Ore Milled (metric tons per day)** | 315,500 | 315,800 | 307,600 | 290,200 | - | 314,700 | - | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Average Copper Ore Grade (%)** | 0.34 | 0.33 | 0.30 | 0.31 | - | 0.32 | 0.29 | 0.29 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
**Copper Recovery Rate (%)** | 80.4 | 83.8 | 81.7 | 81.0 | - | 81.0 | 84.1 | 83.1 |
Executive Team
Questions to Ask Management
- Given the significant cost challenges and lower grades you've been experiencing in your North American operations, can you provide more specifics on your timeline and measurable targets for reducing unit costs and improving productivity?
- With the recent smelter fire in Indonesia and the lack of business interruption insurance, how do you plan to mitigate potential financial impacts, and what contingency plans are in place if the government does not grant the additional flexibility you are seeking for concentrate exports?
- The requirement to hold 30% of export proceeds in Indonesian banks for 90 days restricts a significant amount of your cash; how is this affecting your liquidity and capital allocation plans, and what steps are you taking to address this issue with the government?
- Regarding your capital allocation strategy, how are you prioritizing between the Bagdad expansion, El Abra, and Lone Star projects, and can you provide clarity on how you assess the returns and risks associated with each before committing significant capital?
- As M&A activity picks up in the mining sector, do you risk falling behind competitors by focusing primarily on organic growth, and how do you intend to adapt if valuable assets become unavailable due to industry consolidation?
Past Guidance
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Sales Guidance: Copper, gold, and molybdenum sales similar to previous outlook .
- Unit Net Cash Cost: Average unit net cash cost expected to be $1.58 per pound .
- EBITDA and Cash Flow Sensitivity: EBITDA from $11 billion at $4 copper to $15 billion at $5 copper; operating cash flows over $7 billion at $4 copper to $1.5 billion at $5 copper .
- Capital Expenditures: $3.6 billion for 2024 and $4.2 billion for 2025 .
- Copper Prices: LME prices averaged $4.18 per pound .
- Leach Initiative: Expected to scale to 300 million to 400 million pounds per annum .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024 and FY 2025
- Guidance:
- Copper Sales Volumes: Decreased by 1% .
- Gold Sales Volumes: Reflect change in mine sequencing .
- Consolidated Unit Cash Costs: Estimated at $1.63 per pound .
- EBITDA and Operating Cash Flows: EBITDA from $11 billion to $15 billion; operating cash flows from $7.5 billion to $11 billion .
- Capital Expenditures: $3.7 billion in 2024 and $4.1 billion in 2025 .
- Leaching Initiative: Sustaining at 200 million pounds per annum .
- Shareholder Returns: $4.3 billion distributed .
- Smelter Project: Advancing to commissioning phase .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Copper Sales Volume: Increased by 1.5% .
- Net Unit Cash Costs: Estimated at $1.57 per pound .
- Capital Expenditures: $3.6 billion for 2024 and $3.9 billion for 2025 .
- EBITDA and Cash Flows: EBITDA from $11 billion to $15 billion; operating cash flows from $7.5 billion to $11 billion .
Q4 2023 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2023
- Guided Period: Q1 2024 and FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Net Unit Cash Cost: $1.55 per pound for Q1 2024; $1.60 per pound for FY 2024 .
- Capital Expenditures: $3.6 billion for 2024 .
- Sales Volumes: Copper similar to 2023; gold 10% higher than prior estimates .
- EBITDA and Operating Cash Flows: EBITDA from $10 billion to $14 billion; operating cash flows from $7 billion to $10 billion .
- Production and Cost Projections: Consolidated unit costs at $1.60 per pound .