Franklin Electric - Earnings Call - Q2 2025
July 29, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q2 2025 delivered broad-based growth and margin expansion: revenue $587.4M (+8% YoY), GAAP diluted EPS $1.31 (+4% YoY), and operating margin 15.0% (+40 bps YoY), with records in Water and Distribution sales and Energy segment operating income/margins.
- Results beat Wall Street consensus on both revenue and EPS; revenue $587.4M vs $566.8M consensus and EPS $1.31 vs $1.29 consensus; EBITDA also ran above consensus, signaling stronger execution and pricing/productivity offsets across segments (Values retrieved from S&P Global)*.
- Guidance held: FY25 sales $2.09–$2.15B and GAAP EPS $3.95–$4.25; management reiterated a Q3 plan to terminate the U.S. pension with an ~-$1.00 non-cash EPS impact excluded from guidance, preserving flexibility to accelerate supply chain optimization and select restructuring.
- Capital returns and balance sheet actions: declared $0.265 dividend (payable Aug 21); repurchased ~1.4M shares (~$120M) including ~1.2M from a trust (~$104M); book-to-bill remained above 1 across all segments and backlog rose low double-digits YoY, reinforcing confidence into H2.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Record performance: Water and Distribution achieved record sales; Energy posted record operating income and margin, with Energy margin up ~190–200 bps YoY on favorable geo mix, pricing and cost actions.
- Broad-based growth: Consolidated sales +8% YoY with growth in all segments (Water +8%, Energy +6%, Distribution +5); strong U.S./Canada (+5%), Latin America (+26%), and APAC (+18%) momentum.
- Positive demand/profitability signals: Book-to-bill >1 across all segments and backlog up low-double digits YoY; Distribution margin improved 300 bps on cost actions, operational execution, and stabilizing commodities.
Management quotes:
- “We delivered strong results…record sales in…Water and Distribution…record operating income and margin performance in our Energy segment.” — CEO Joe Ruzynski.
- “Operating income margin [Energy] increased primarily due to the favorable geographic mix…price realization and cost management actions.” — CFO Jennifer Wolfenbarger.
What Went Wrong
- Water Systems margin mix headwind: Despite +8% sales, Water operating margin declined 160 bps YoY to 18.1% on product mix (large dewatering) and acquisition-related costs, plus FX.
- FX pressure and hyperinflation exposures: Foreign currency translation negatively impacted sales (notably Brazil), with hyperinflation accounting in Argentina/Turkey highlighted in KPIs; FX-related expense also weighed on results.
- Tariff/copper uncertainty persists: Management expects tariffs/inflation to be offset via pricing/productivity, but notes closer price/inflation dynamics in H2 and ongoing supply chain investments to mitigate risk.
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Hello and welcome to Franklin Electric.
Reports second quarter 2025 sales and earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in.
A listen-only mode.
After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand has been raised to withdraw your question.
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Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Chief Financial Officer Jennifer Wolfenbarger.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
Thank you, Andrew, and welcome everyone to Franklin Electric's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today is Joe Ruzynski, our Chief Executive Officer, and for the Q&A section, Russ Fleeger, our Water Systems CFO. On today's call, Joe will review our second quarter business highlights, and then I will provide additional details on our financial performance. Joe will make some additional comments related to our key growth and value drivers along with our outlook. We will then take questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that as we conduct this call, we will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties, many of which could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward-looking statements.
A discussion of these factors may be found in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K and today's earnings release. All forward-looking statements made during this call are based on information currently available, and except as required by law, the Company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Earlier today, we published a slide deck to accompany our prepared remarks. The slides can be found in the Investor Relations section of our corporate website at www.franklin-electric.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Joe.
Joe?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
thank you. Jennifer, good morning everyone.
Thank you for joining today's call. Let me start our call today by highlighting our team's strong results in the second quarter on Slide 3.
It reflects our adaptability, commitment to our.
Employees and customers and strategic execution as I finish my first year as CEO and have seen the great work that our Franklin Electric team is doing to serve, innovate and grow. I'm proud of the progress we've made and how we've responded to change in a challenging external environment. All three segments saw organic growth with a good mix of price and volume. Overall, we've set new high marks for revenue, income and earnings per share. We delivered a sales record in our.
Water and Distribution segments and record operating.
Income in our Energy Systems segment. Overall end market demand is mixed globally.
It has remained relatively stable. We continue to see encouraging order trends.
As we exit the quarter, our healthy backlog gives us confidence in our ability to sustain this momentum as we move forward. Weather conditions were largely neutral overall.
Existing home sales and housing starts remain.
Soft, but our ability to add new customers, deliver the best service in our industry, and bring new products to market have helped us find good paths to enable growth. Importantly, our pricing actions have been successful, helping us protect margins during the recent tariff-driven volatility in the market.
Our strong top line results and operational.
Execution helped offset some of our hyperinflationary regional markets, and several one-time costs, mostly expenses related to recent acquisitions which are integrating well.
We also continue to execute our long.
Term strategy, focusing on faster growing markets.
Capitalizing on our healthy balance sheet, driving.
Efficiency in our global operation and building processes and teams while continuing to deliver great service to our customers.
While the global markets remain uncertain.
the face of tariffs and commodity inflation, we've been disciplined in our plans and response and are poised to execute in the second half. Moving to page four, I'd like to take a moment to.
Touch on the incredible team and culture.
We're building here at Franklin Electric. Culture has been a strength of Franklin Electric and our storied history, and we're excited to build on this strong foundation.
One of our key tenets is being.
A great place to work and attracting the best talent.
With that, I'm excited to welcome Jennifer.
Wolfenbarger as our new CFO. Jennifer joins us with extensive financial leadership experience in global operations, most recently serving as Chief Financial Officer for the insulation business at Owens Corning.
She brings deep expertise in financial planning and analysis, accounting, operational finance, and strategic.
Business partnerships, and she has led finance teams supporting complex global businesses.
We're confident that her strong leadership and
Her global perspective will be a tremendous asset to Franklin Electric as we continue to execute our growth strategy.
I would also like to extend my.
Sincere thanks to Russ Fleeger for stepping in as interim CFO over the past several months. Russ will return to his role as our Water Systems Segment CFO, where his leadership continues to drive meaningful impact. Additionally, I'm thrilled to welcome Daniela Williams as our new Chief Human Resources Officer.
Daniela's deep expertise in HR, technology, talent.
Development, analytics, and global workforce strategy will be instrumental in ensuring that we're well positioned to support our employees and customers well into the future. Thank you to our global Franklin Electric team, and welcome to our new leaders.
Turning to results on slide 5, overall, we delivered strong consolidated sales growth.
8% with growth across all segments, while gross margin was down slightly.
Consolidated operating margins reached 15%, driven by.
Strong execution and improved SG&A in our Energy Systems and Distribution segments. Despite the continued macro uncertainty related to tariffs and several one-time acquisition-related costs in the quarter, I'm impressed with our team's response and our ability to drive growth in this environment.
Looking at our segment results in more.
Detail, Water Systems delivered a solid sales result, up 8% year over year, benefiting from favorable pricing, volume, and recent acquisitions.
Similar to last quarter, the groundwater market.
Remained steady where we captured strong price realization in the U.S. We've lapped the.
Difficult comparable period in our U.S. fleet.
The business exhibited strong growth in the second quarter.
The segment did, however, see a drag.
On margin as a result of mix stemming from sales related to large dewatering equipment and the recent acquisition related costs. Energy delivered 6% sales growth driven by.
Favorable volume and price as international markets.
Our grid business picked up steam. As we look toward the second half of the year, we're excited about upcoming projects in places like India and Saudi Arabia.
The segment also had strong operating income.
Operating income margin with margins improving by 200 basis points.
While margins have expanded materially in recent periods.
Quarters, we expect to remain comfortably around this range in the near term.
We're optimistic about our grid business and asset monitoring.
monitoring business as it's rebounded nicely and is benefiting from expanded channels and new customer acquisitions. Distribution also delivered a strong quarter with record sales despite some negative impacts of storms and another wet year. The segment reported 5% growth, driven largely by higher volumes. Operating margins improved by 300 basis points.
Supported by strong operational execution, an improved
Pricing environment and the stabilization of commodity prices. This is an encouraging trend for this business.
I'm now going to hand the call.
Over to Jennifer to review our financials in more detail.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
Thank you Joe. Our fully diluted earnings per share were $1.31 for the second quarter 2025 versus $1.26 for the second quarter 2024, up $0.06 from the prior year. Moving to Slide 6, second quarter 2025 consolidated sales were $587.4 million, a year-over-year increase of 8%. The sales increase in the second quarter was due to the incremental sales impact from recent acquisitions and higher volume and price in all three segments, partially offset by the negative impact of foreign currency translation, primarily due to the Brazilian real. Franklin Electric's consolidated gross profit was $211.8 million for the second quarter 2025, up from the prior year's gross profit of $199.8 million. The gross profit as a percentage of net sales was 36.1% in the second quarter 2025, a decrease of 70 basis points compared to the prior year.
Moving on to SG&A expense, we've seen a 120 basis point improvement in our SG&A as a percent of sales metric year-over-year as a result of cost improvement actions taken in the last year. SG&A expenses were $123.5 million in the second quarter of 2025 compared to $120.6 million in the prior year. The increase in SG&A expense was primarily due to the additional expense impact of our 2025 acquisitions, including various deal-related costs. Absent acquisition-related SG&A, the company experienced a decrease in SG&A expenses year-over-year of approximately $2.3 million as a result of actions taken in Q4 of 2024. Consolidated operating income was $88.1 million in the quarter, up $9 million or 11% from $79.1 million in the prior year. The increase in operating income was primarily due to higher sales and cost management. Operating income margin was 15%, up from 14.6% year-over-year.
Moving to segment results on Slide 7, Water Systems sales in the U.S. and Canada were up 5% compared to the second quarter 2024. At a product level, sales of large dewatering equipment increased 20%, sales of water treatment products increased 7% driven by the strong addition of dealers to our customer base, and sales of all other surface pumping equipment increased 2%, while sales of groundwater pumping equipment decreased 4% as compared to Q2 2024. Water Systems sales in markets outside the U.S. and Canada increased 12% overall. Foreign currency translation decreased sales by 1% and recent acquisitions added roughly 11% to sales. Excluding the impact of acquisitions and foreign currency translation, sales in the second quarter of 2025 increased high single digits in Asia Pacific, low single digits in Latin America, and were relatively flat in EMEA Water Systems.
Operating income was $61.8 million, down a $500,000 versus the prior year. The decrease was primarily due to lower gross margin and higher SG&A costs, primarily related to our recent acquisitions. Sales mix impact due to higher large dewatering sales in the quarter as well as negative impact of foreign exchange was partially offset by better volume and price. Operating income margin was 18.1%, a year-over-year decrease of 160 basis points. Distribution second quarter sales were $200 million versus second quarter 2024 sales of $190.5 million, an increase of 5%. The Distribution segment sales increase was primarily due to higher volumes as a result of share gain and on-site inventory placement projects. The Distribution segment's operating income was $16.1 million for the second quarter, a year-over-year increase of $6.3 million.
Operating income margin was 8.1% of sales in the second quarter, an improvement of 300 basis points versus the prior year, driven by higher volumes and improved margins as a result of margin improvement actions taken in the last year. Energy Systems sales were $77.5 million, an increase of $4.4 million or 6% compared to the second quarter of 2024. Energy Systems sales in the U.S. and Canada increased 6% year-over-year. Outside the U.S. and Canada, Energy Systems sales increased 14%, led by increased sales in India and strong grid growth. Energy Systems operating income was $29.1 million compared to $26 million in 2024. Operating income margin was 37.5% compared to 35.6% in the prior year, an improvement of 190 basis points.
Operating income margin increased primarily due to the favorable geographic mix of sales as well as price realization and the benefit of cost management actions taken in the last year. The effective tax rate was 25% for the quarter compared to 23% in the prior year quarter. The change in the effective tax rate was driven by an increase in foreign earnings taxed at rates higher than the U.S. rate as well as less favorable discrete items, which had an EPS impact of approximately $0.03. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flows on Slide 8, the company ended the second quarter of 2025 with a cash balance of $104.6 million and with $186 million outstanding under its revolving credit agreement. We generated $52 million in net cash flows from our operating activities during the second quarter compared to $36 million in 2024.
In Q2, the company purchased a total of roughly 1.4 million shares of its common stock for approximately $120 million. Approximately 1.2 million of these shares were purchased from the Pat Shaffer Trust for roughly $104 million as of the end of the second quarter of 2025. The remaining authorized shares that may be repurchased is about 1.1 million shares. Yesterday, the company announced a quarterly cash dividend of $0.265. This dividend will be payable August 21 to shareholders of record on August 7. Moving to slide 9, we are holding our full year sales expectations of $2.09 billion to $2.15 billion and maintaining our GAAP EPS range of $3.95 per share to $4.25 per share. During the third quarter, the company expects to terminate its U.S. pension which will have a non-cash EPS impact of approximately $1 per share. This impact is not included in our current guidance.
While we remain confident in our backlog and our ability to execute, we foresee opportunity in the second half of 2025 to accelerate further investment in the optimization of our supply chain, execute select restructuring and invest in growth. Therefore, we are maintaining our previous guide. Now I will turn the call back to Joe for some additional comments.
Joe?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Thanks Jennifer.
Turning to slide 10 and bringing back.
Our value creation framework, our long term strategy is anchored in how we drive growth, execute and transform, operationally deploy capital, and maintain industry leading talent.
To drive growth, we continue to focus.
On innovation, global portfolio expansion, and strengthening our leadership position across key markets.
We have focused on synergies as we've.
Grown acquisitively these past years, supporting our ongoing operational efficiency efforts and driving improved standardization across our business.
Our recent acquisitions are performing well, and the collective Franklin Electric team is energized by.
New opportunities from these investments. At the same time, we're also deeply committed to returning capital to shareholders, as evidenced by our completion of over $100 million in share buybacks this quarter. Finally, we continue to attract top talent.
As seen with the additions of Jennifer.
Daniela to the team, among many others, all of whom will help support our ambitious growth agenda. Ultimately, we believe these priorities position us to deliver consistent long term shareholder value.
On slide 11, I'd like to give.
A quick highlight on innovation.
An excellent example of our drive to.
Listen to market and our customers' needs, then bring leading innovation and solutions to our end markets. Our new EVO ONE fuel monitoring solution: tens of thousands of convenience store owners now face a major cost and operational challenge.
They rely on outdated fuel monitoring systems.
That utilize 30+ year old technology.
Upgrading just the control console leaves most.
Of the aging components in place.
This means owners are likely to face.
Future unanticipated downtime coming at a dramatically higher cost as the rest of the system components reach the end of their service life.
With EVO ONE, Franklin Electric has provided an ideal.
Path to upgrade the entire monitoring system utilizing the latest EVO technology perfected for the world's leading convenience store companies at a price comparable to replacing just the traditional console. We will now turn the call over to Andrew for questions. After Q and A, will return for closing remarks. Andrew, thank you.
Operator (participant)
As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Bryan Blair with Oppenheimer.
Bryan Blair (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Thank you.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
Morning Brian.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Solid quarter. Thank you.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
Thanks, Brian.
Bryan Blair (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Level set, did Q2 benefit from pull forward of orders at least any notable degree? I know that that wasn't the case in Q1.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Really no change in terms of kind of our traditional order pattern.
At the end of Q2, I.
Would say it was business as usual. Really no significant pull forward from Q3 to Q2.
Bryan Blair (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Okay, that's good to hear. It was great to see distribution margin back in kind of high single digit territory. How much did cost actions contribute to the 300 basis points margin expansion? Given current visibility, how is your team thinking about distribution profitability through the back half?
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
Yeah, I think as we.
Started the year, you know, we said our expectation is you're going to see.
The most margin improvement in that segment. It's reading out as we expected. Cost actions contributed probably, you know, a.
Third or a little bit more of that benefit.
I think what we're excited about is, you know, and I mentioned this in my prepared remarks, you know, following.
Years of acquisition, we're really proud of how that team is bringing that distribution network together, focused on operational efficiency, both.
Inbound, how we purchase, how we serve.
Customers, and then building really a strong technology base to be able to give good real-time visibility, how customers order, how they can see our products. It's a number of things.
I would say some leverage, some of.
That operational execution and efficiency just based.
On the really building a more efficient business.
Of course, some of the.
Cost actions that we took coming into.
This year.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
We expect in the back half, we expect margins in Q3 to.
Be around that range, and then of course seasonally in Q4.
It sequentially will go down.
From a year over year standpoint, we expect to see nice improvement in the last two quarters of this year as well.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
I could just add on to that. I would agree a third of that was really from the cost improvements. The team did a really good job in terms of executing on volume, and we were able to pick up some share in that business in the quarter. A lot of the actions and so forth that the team has taken in terms of cross pollination have really played out in the quarter. Really proud of the team.
Bryan Blair (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Appreciate the question and perhaps to offer a quick update on integration at Pump Engineers and Barnes. Joe, you noted that the deals are tracking well. I'm particularly interested in Barnes and how your team has to date and how you're thinking about leveraging the foundry capacity and capabilities there.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, no, it's a great question.
We had a good integration review.
In Bogota a month and a half ago, I think what impressed me.
Is probably two things.
One is our global team and our
North America team was there as well.
Some of their products.
When we look at growth synergies, which is really the driver behind that acquisition.
We're getting a lot of return on our existing and mature channels and how.
We bring those products to end markets both in South America and in North America. We are seeing that run a little bit faster than we thought.
From a foundry standpoint.
We know that being in Region 4 is the right way to serve our customers.
Jennifer just talked about our ability.
To respond to volume, I think it really sets us apart.
The foundry is performing well and we're.
Actually working on expanding the current footprint.
We had some of that optionality as we acquired the company.
We are going forward with those investments, and I think it will be two things. One is to support the additional volume growth based on that traditional set of products serving now a wider customer base.
I think I mentioned this last quarter looking at bringing some of.
The tools that may have been in Southeast Asia or in China back here.
Closer to our customers is a real opportunity for us.
There is some work to do there. That is some of the investment that Jennifer called out in terms of wanting to accelerate that here in the back half. There is some capital and expense to do.
We've got good line of sight.
The foundry is performing well, and the teams are executing tremendously. Good start.
Bryan Blair (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Very encouraging. Thanks again.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Thanks, Bryan.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Connors with Northcoast Research.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Good morning.
Thanks, Joe, and welcome, Jennifer.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Hey, Ryan.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
Thank you.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Yeah, I wanted to jump into the water side in a little more detail. Specifically on mix. You mentioned their large dewatering and the mixed components there in the Water Systems segment. Is that all product driven mix, or is there some geographic mix impacts there as well? Based on the order boards and the backlog today, how does that mix element shape up for Water Systems in the back half?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Most of it is really product-driven mix.
I can let Russ and Jennifer Wolfenbarger add to this, but that dewatering business.
As you know, it is a cyclical business. It kind of has this three year run from peak to drop. We saw that business hit its peak.
In the back half of 2023.
We talked about this a few times. We see a strong order book and backlog in that business.
There will be some mix pressure that we see in that business, but most.
Of it is product mix versus geography. The geographies read out largely as we expected.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
I would just add both groundwater and dewatering solid, very healthy volumes. Just saw a little bit of that product mix play out. Book-to-bill, very healthy above 1. It varies across geographies a little bit, but all really healthy above 1 with strong backlogs.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
I think, Ryan, what you'll see less.
Pressure from a margin standpoint.
That mix is kind of hard.
To pull out because we definitely, as.
We accelerate that acquisition. We still are seeing some of those acquisition related costs in Q2, which diminished through the back half of the year.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Got it. Okay. Secondly, just talk about resi for a minute. I know it's an important market and it seems like everyone's waiting on a potential for a rate cut and maybe lower mortgage rates to drive that. Is that the only catalyst that we're banking on here, or are there other potential catalysts that can drive some more volume growth in?
That side of the business?
Is that really the catalyst that we're waiting on?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
I'll take a stab at that.
That business was flattish for us, obviously, in Q2. I think to say that we're getting no help from kind of the market is true. We're in the same boat as everyone else.
A couple good things about our business.
When we talk about other things we look at.
One is given our high service.
Replacement demand, that business is 70%+.
Percent replacement for us.
Our ability to serve that market has.
Held us to hold and even take share in some cases.
We believe that we're taking share there. I also think, and I think I mentioned one example. If I didn't, you're going to hear more about it here in Q3. Some really exciting new products that attend to that Resi market that we're just launching right now. I think new products, innovation, being.
Able to respond to our customers, all of those things help us to offset that weaker housing starts and housing sales.
You know, one thing that I point.
I think we commented on this, if you look at our water treatment business, which is probably.
You know, has a more direct correlation.
To housing starts and sales than others.
The fact that that business grew.
Mid plus single digits, I think is a testament to just that growth strategy, which is dealer ads, building a strong network out serving our peers.
We had a nice set of results.
Dealer ads as well. Again, in Q2, I think Jennifer referenced.
We think that there's some self.
Help there that can offset that soft Resi market, and Q2 demonstrated that for us.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Got it. One last one, kind of.
A bigger picture question.
Through the dewatering business and otherwise, Franklin Electric has long been seen as somewhat more mining resource driven than maybe some of the peers. When you look at some of the things happening like the copper tariffs and supposedly the method of madness there being to bring more resource development back domestic, do you view that as a catalyst or has the portfolio changed to the point where that's not the driver that it once was?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
I think if you go back five plus years, we actually were more exposed to markets like oil and gas and other things. That is coming way down, and we've seen that balance. I think just in general, if we look at mining, if you look at materials and minerals, I think there's an.
Opportunity there for us. We don't have a huge exposure to it in North America as you referenced before, but we're working on bringing those.
Products into North America post acquisition of companies like Minetuff and PumpEdge. It's copper, there's other metals and.
Materials where we see continued growth.
I think that's an opportunity for us.
It's relatively small for us today, but if that market continues to grow and if you see the need for minerals,
Domestic development continues to increase.
We'll be prepared for that.
Ryan Connors (Managing Director and Research Analyst)
Got it. Thanks for your time this morning.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, thank you, Ryan.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Halloran with Robert W. Baird.
Mike Halloran (Senior Analyst)
Hey, good morning everyone.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Morning, Mike.
Mike Halloran (Senior Analyst)
Maybe we just start with how you.
Think about the sequential trends and what's embedded in guidance, with all the moving pieces. If you just think about it in terms of end user demand across the segments, anything unusual and you think you're following a relatively normal cadence here. If I think about what the guide for the back half of the year implies, does it imply normal seasonality from here, normal sequentials, or is there any kind of variance as you think about it, whether in the quarter or embedded in the guide?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, that's a good question, Mike. Maybe I'll start with coming into and as we went through Q2, which, if you look at headlines, if you look.
At tariffs, if you look at the.
Noise globally normal. We didn't think we'd.
Use that term normal in terms of, obviously we executed well. We're really proud of what the team.
has done, but it was a more normal market than we had thought. We see those trends continuing here into the back half.
We're a couple weeks in the backlog. The order trends, the order book look good. Parts of our business that we can see further out.
We talked about dewatering, that's one example.
In the water space.
In the energy systems segment, where we.
Can see further out there in terms.
Of our service partners and the service stations, everything looks positive. Based on backlog order trends and.
Kind of a snippet here as we get into Q3, we expect to be fairly normal, just to use that word. We don't expect any major disruption. I think to the other questions, obviously we watch interest rates, we watch some.
Of those other externalities that could provide.
A lift to us.
Not baked in, no expectation.
Our sense is it's kind of business as usual in the back half. Yes to normal and yes to kind of the seasonal sequential. Q3 looks similar to Q2, and then Q4, the sequential.
It's obviously a step down, but we.
Expect to perform well.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
I'll just add from a tariff and from a copper perspective, I think we're really proud of the work that our supply chain has done to look for various levers to pull to mitigate that, and we continue to remain confident in our ability to offset for the balance of the year.
So.
That holds true from a tariff perspective. From a copper perspective, we'll continue to look at multiple paths to win.
Mike Halloran (Senior Analyst)
Thanks for that.
Just to follow up.
Just.
An update on how you're thinking about the M&A pipeline, intent, actionability. I know that's part of the mandate for the team moving forward, and just kind of any thoughts on how that's looking and where the focal points are?
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, you know, we've made some really fun investments and had a specific focus.
Here over the last three quarters, too.
Make sure that the pipeline is robust, that our team is ready to execute. The one nice thing, Mike, in the last couple months is you definitely.
See a little bit more activity in.
Terms of what's out there and some.
Things that will potentially move. We are positive about it. We've got a good and an active.
Funnel, I think similar to what I said last quarter.
Our key focus right now is what?
Are those products that can really put
Us into those faster growing markets, take.
Advantage of secular trends, and then we.
Can bring through our great channel.
We expect that we'll continue to be active. It's always hard to predict what happens and when it happens, but that still.
The mandate is to make sure that we put that strong balance sheet to use.
Mike Halloran (Senior Analyst)
Thank you.
Really appreciate it.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Thanks, Mike.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson.
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
Morning, Matt.
Matt Summerville (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
A couple of questions.
Morning. I apologize if you already addressed this. I missed some of the prepared remarks. You reiterated your EPS guide for the year, yet you bought back $1.2 million shares of stock from one of Franklin Electric's founding daughters. Can you sort of articulate maybe why not raise the bar from a guidance standpoint? I have a follow up.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, maybe I'll start, and then Russ and Jennifer can add to that.
I think one is, as you know, we had a slower start to the year. Two is, we've got a.
Fairly ambitious agenda in terms of accelerating our transformation, making some of those investments. I referred to just some examples in terms of near shoring, you know, tools in our supply chain. This is a big focus and we want to go faster to control our destiny. I think part of holding guidance is giving us the room to execute. There is a small benefit we got from obviously purchasing some of those shares.
We feel we're undervalued.
I think our execution in Q2 is a good example of what we expect and hope to see going forward.
We also are focused highly on.
Predictability, and we want to make sure that we prepare ourselves for further supply chain disruptions.
We've got a couple bigger capital investments that we've accelerated.
Two examples, I may have referenced these in the past.
We have a factory in Turkey.
We're going faster on that than we originally intended.
We have a factory that.
We're building in India that we want to get started and get moving. I think it's just making sure that, one, we're predictable. Two, we have room for transformation and for those key investments we think are important. Our intent is to grow and to serve the markets that we're in. We feel that this is the best route for us here where we sit.
Matt Summerville (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you for that.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
Yeah.
Matt Summerville (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Sure.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
Yeah, I was just going to say the investments that Joe referenced are heavily back half loaded. That does impact the go forward as well.
Matt Summerville (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
That's helpful.
Thank you.
Just as a follow up.
Can you talk about.
Strength in orders and backlog, can you maybe give a little bit of quantification around how those metrics look now versus this time last year, and can you review where you were at from a price cost standpoint in the second quarter and what you expect in the back half in that regard?
Thank you.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Yeah, maybe just a comment, I'll refer to Jennifer on some of this. From a backlog standpoint, backlogs are probably up overall, you know, in the low double digits.
Some of the segments, they're up more than that.
As you know, Matt, we're a shorter.
Cycle business for a good portion. We look at book-to-bill as well. Book-to-bill is over one for all three segments.
I think that's one of our.
Better indicators where we can see out further.
We definitely have seen a nice uplift in backlog in the Energy Systems segment.
I referred to that. From a year over year standpoint, as we give those reference points for backlog, that's kind of a good year over year view.
From a book-to-bill.
standpoint, this is just we look at the churn, we look at our daily.
Orders, we look at what's happening even.
For our shorter cycle businesses, it gives us really a good pattern and understanding of kind of what's going to happen here at least in the near term.
Q3 we feel pretty good about.
From a price cost standpoint, yeah, we can give you maybe, Jennifer, if you want to just talk about price, cost, volume here in Q2. I think I have those numbers here as well, but it was a good blend and a good mix,
Jennifer Wolfenbarger (CFO)
yeah.
Overall, from a price over cost perspective, we were in really great shape versus the prior year. From a volume perspective, we talked about that throughout our prepared remarks. Seeing a bit of an uplift year over year from a volume perspective as we've taken share in a few places, namely Distribution, a bit in Energy, seeing really good performance in Energy with regard to international data center projects and grid growth. As I mentioned, price over costs, including the impact of a little bit of impact that we've seen in tariffs, we're covering that nicely.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Sorry for the F16 noise in the background here in Fort Wayne. Price productivity definitely more than.
Offset inflation, and I think you know.
Seeing a couple points of pricing, you know, more than a few points in volume, those are good indicators for us to see that balance.
One thing you'll see, Matt, is the inflation.
You know, some of this is due to tariffs and the purchases that we had to make in Q2. Some of this will read out a little more strongly.
In the back half.
They'll be a little closer in terms of the price and the inflation, but we expect it to be a positive story this year.
Russ Fleeger (Water Systems CFO)
I would add to that some.
Of the tariffs that could have been or that we saw throughout the quarter, we were prepared to do more in.
terms of our productivity, inventory, and price action, I think where we ended.
Up in the quarter is we feel we're pretty good. We're pretty well positioned here in the back half to more than offset tariffs, inflation, etc.
Matt Summerville (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you, guys.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Thanks, man.
Operator (participant)
Thank you.
I'm showing no further questions at this time. With that, I'd like to hand the call back over to CEO Joe Ruzynski for any closing remarks.
Joe Ruzynski (CEO)
Thanks, Andrew.
We really appreciate the questions.
As we close out our Q2 2025 earnings call, I want to extend my sincere thanks and gratitude to our employees and stakeholders for the dedication, hard work, and unwavering commitment.
We had a solid Q2 and first.
Half with good order trends, a healthy backlog.
We expect this to continue.
Holding guidance gives us the opportunity to.
Accelerate our transformation and position us well for 2026 as we continue to monitor tariffs and other disruptions to our market. Our strategy is working. We're excited about our prospects to find the right acquisitions, bring great customer service and innovation to our markets, and to continue to build on the great team and culture Franklin Electric is known for.
Thank you for joining us, and I hope everyone has a great week.
Operator (participant)
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating. This does conclude today's program, and you may now disconnect.