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    Five9 Inc (FIVN)

    Q2 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Mar 13, 2025 (After Market Close)
    Pre-Earnings Price$42.47Last close (Aug 8, 2024)
    Post-Earnings Price$34.20Open (Aug 9, 2024)
    Price Change
    $-8.27(-19.47%)
    • The company expects an inflection in gross margins in the second half of the year, with EBITDA margins improving sequentially each quarter and exceeding 20% in Q4, indicating operational efficiency and increased profitability.
    • Despite a temporary lull in large deals in Q2, the company maintains a healthy pipeline and is optimistic about long-term growth prospects. Additionally, they are taking actions to improve sales execution, including promoting a new EVP of sales and realigning resources, positioning the company for future recovery in bookings and revenue growth.
    • The company has maintained steady pricing on its core products despite increased competition, and increased average revenue per seat by expanding its portfolio with additional AI solutions and partnerships, leading to higher wallet share from customers and enhancing long-term revenue growth.
    • Delayed Mega Deals and Reduced Deal Sizes: The company did not close any mega deals in Q2 and had fewer $1 million ARR deals than expected, with deal sizes being smaller ,. Customers are delaying decisions due to budget constraints and prioritization, which could signal challenges in winning large contracts and impact future revenue growth.
    • Lowered Annual Revenue Guidance Due to Softer New Logo Bookings and Seasonal Trends: The company lowered its annual revenue guidance by 3.8% due to softer new logo bookings in Q2 and anticipated longer muted seasonality in service bookings , ,. This reflects uncertainties in customer spending behavior and may indicate difficulties in achieving previous growth expectations.
    • Concerns Over Net Revenue Retention (NRR) and Macro Headwinds: The company no longer assumes an inflection in NRR in the second half of the year because of muted seasonality and reduced customer volumes , ,. They attribute this to the macro environment, with customers being less confident and constraining budgets , , which could continue to affect their ability to retain and grow revenue from existing customers.
    1. Guidance Reduction Reasons
      Q: Why did you lower your guidance?
      A: The primary reason for reducing guidance is lower go-gets, including professional services revenue and new recurring revenue. This impact was more significant than the seasonal factors. We thoroughly considered all foreseeable elements to avoid future adjustments.

    2. Net Retention Rate Outlook
      Q: Will net retention rate stay at current levels?
      A: We believe the net retention rate will improve when the economy rebounds. Currently, AI cross-sells help somewhat, but their impact on NRR is limited due to small attach rates in the existing base.

    3. Sales Execution and Management Changes
      Q: Are changes in sales leadership reactionary?
      A: The changes are not a knee-jerk reaction. We're adding more expertise and focus to our sales execution to maximize bookings. As a $1 billion company, we felt it's the right time to bolster our leadership team.

    4. Impact of Macro Environment
      Q: How is the macro environment affecting your business?
      A: We're seeing customers exercise caution due to economic uncertainty, leading to slower growth in our installed base and impacting net retention rates. However, logo churn remains low.

    5. AI Products and Revenue Model
      Q: How do AI products affect your revenue model?
      A: We're offering AI solutions with flexible pricing models, including consumption-based options. While attach rates are higher on new bookings, AI revenue is still small in the installed base but presents a significant long-term opportunity.

    6. Mega Deal Delays
      Q: Are delayed mega deals being pushed to future years?
      A: Some deals that slipped are delayed due to customers prioritizing budgets. These are expected to close in future quarters, but revenue contribution will be in 2025. We're seeing record levels of RFPs, indicating healthy demand.

    7. Gross Margin and Operating Margin Outlook
      Q: When will margins improve?
      A: We expect an inflection in gross margins in the second half of the year. We're guiding to higher EBITDA margins, with Q3 higher than Q2 and Q4 above 20%.

    8. Pricing Competition
      Q: Are you seeing pricing pressure on core seats?
      A: Pricing for our core voice contact center seats has remained steady. There's no significant price erosion, and our revenue per seat continues to rise.

    9. Acquisition of Aqueon
      Q: How will the Aqueon acquisition impact revenue?
      A: Aqueon is a small company bringing best-in-class outbound engagement technology. Its immediate revenue contribution is minimal, but it enhances our long-term growth prospects.

    10. Deal Cycle Length and Partner Trends
      Q: Are sales cycles elongating due to AI components?
      A: While there are more meetings due to AI offerings, elongated sales cycles are more due to budget prioritization by customers. We're also seeing an increase in implementations done by partners.

    11. Bookings Impact on Growth
      Q: Is new booked ARR declining?
      A: Excluding anomalies from mega deals, our bookings are steady. Revenue from mega deals spreads over time, so singular quarters can be misleading.

    12. Guidance Framework Reassessment
      Q: Are you rethinking your guidance approach?
      A: We've rethought our guidance to include all foreseeable factors. We aim to avoid future adjustments by thoroughly considering current uncertainties.

    13. Customer Economic Outlook
      Q: Do customers expect a recession?
      A: Customers express caution due to economic uncertainties but stop short of predicting a recession. They're still growing but at a slower pace.

    14. Seasonal Patterns and 2025 Growth
      Q: How do June bookings and Q4 seasonality affect 2025 growth?
      A: Both macro factors and sales execution impacted June bookings. We prefer to provide a 2025 outlook in November, consistent with our usual practice.

    15. Guidance Components Breakdown
      Q: Can you quantify the guidance components?
      A: Of the expected recurring revenue increase in the second half, approximately 70% comes from the installed base and 30% from new logos and services.

    16. Million-Dollar Deal Sizes
      Q: Why were million-dollar deals smaller this quarter?
      A: Deal sizes were smaller due to timing delays. We're taking actions to get back on track and are confident in our long-term prospects.