Forward Air - Earnings Call - Q2 2017

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Speaker 0

Thank you for joining Forward Air Corporation's Second Quarter twenty seventeen Earnings Release Conference Call. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that both the press release and webcast presentation for the call are accessible on the Investor Relations section of Forward Air's website at forwardaircorp.com. With us this morning are Chairman, President and CEO, Bruce Campbell and Senior Vice President and CFO, Mike Morris. By now, you should have received the press release announcing our second quarter twenty seventeen results, which were furnished to the SEC on Form eight ks and on the wire yesterday after market close. Please be aware that during this conference call, we will be making forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements, among others, regarding the company's outlook for the third quarter and fiscal year of 2017.

These statements are based on current information and our current expectations. As such, they are subject to risks and other factors that may cause actual operations and results to differ materially from the results discussed in the forward looking statements. For additional information concerning these risks and factors, please refer to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the press release and webcast presentation relating to this earnings call. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Today's presentation will include non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted income from operation, adjusted income before taxes, adjusted income taxes, adjusted net income and adjusted diluted earnings per share.

These non GAAP financial measures exclude those items that we believe affect comparability. A reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures to their respective GAAP measures is set forth in our second quarter twenty seventeen earnings press release. The company appreciates your attendance on today's call. And your review of the second quarter twenty seventeen press release, including Bruce and Mike's comments and guidance information provided therein. To make the most of today's time, you have all given forward air this morning.

We will move directly to the question and answer session. Just a brief reminder, today's conference is also being recorded. We do thank you. The floor is now open for questions and comments. Looks like first we'll go to the line of Jack Atkins with Stephens.

Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Thanks. This is actually Andrew on for Jack. I guess as we look at core line haul yield, it was down I think about 3% year over year in the quarter. I think this is the third quarter in a row now we've seen down year over year yields. Can you help us think through what degree this is due to weight per shipment or length of haul mix versus core pricing?

Speaker 2

I think it's a combination of all those factors. Yield sometimes decreases, it's not necessarily a pricing issue. As you pointed out, can be length of haul, can be shipment size, etcetera. So we watch it very closely as you might have imagined. You'll probably see us do some incremental changes as we go forward in the year.

And we'll get the yield back to where it needs to be.

Speaker 1

Okay. Good to hear. Bruce, I know you've been asked before about a GRI this year, but just given what we've seen from the broader LTL market in the recent months plus the potential for inflationary pressures from driver wages, has your thinking on a GRI changed at all?

Speaker 2

You know, we're going through that process as we sit here today. We'll probably be in better shape about a month from now to tell you exactly what we're going to do. Per the factors that you just listed, I think you'll probably see some what we call structural changes in our pricing model. Okay. Good to

Speaker 1

hear. Mike, could you provide an update on your LTL, 3PL initiative you guys have going on?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's going well. We're seeing nice growth in this initiative ahead of our internal plans. We're also in the process of making the necessary adjustments in our network to where we can have better dispatch capabilities at the terminals and bring in, you know, more of an owner operator content in the pickup and delivery. Let me expand on this and loop back to your prior question if I could for a second, Andrew. When you're in these 3PL TMS systems, you know, you are bidding on freight where you're going to have a door to door offering.

You're going to pick it up. You're going to line haul it. You're going to deliver it. And so you're going to see a continued growth in the pickup and delivery aspect of our business as we continue to grow in this space. But when we price it, we price it per pound.

And that's a little different than the legacy setting around Complete where you price three distinct legs of the transaction and you invoice them separately, the pickup, the line haul, the delivery. So we have to internally allocate that revenue between those legs. And there's math behind it, but it is an allocation. And so as we continue to grow in this space, it's going to start to make more and more sense to look at our yields on a system basis ex fuel, where line haul and P and D are smashed together. And so per your prior comment, if you look at our system yields this past quarter, they were essentially flat.

They were down 30 basis points. You're going to see more of that effect as we grow our door to door offerings to grow in these markets that we're looking to expand in. And at some point, we may change what we disclose from a yield perspective more along the lines of a common carrier, not that we would become a common carrier, but what you would expect to see from the other common carriers where you just get a yield number. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1

Yes. No, that's helpful. That was helpful.

Speaker 3

And so the other thing that's going on back to your prior question is we are, you know, growing very nicely this initiative. It's bringing a different mix of freight in that has more of a varying characteristic than the legacy tonnage, if you will, if I can group it like that. We're seeing a wide diversity of length of haul and weight per shipment that is having the standard, you know, impacts on stated yield that you hear from the other LTLs. So you're going to see more of that. There's more noise going on underneath the yield curtain.

But when we strip things down to look at it on a revenue per ton per mile basis, we continue to see freight that we like at rates that, you know, we think are profitable.

Speaker 1

That is helpful. Then, Mike, on the $05 the benefit from the town indemnification, could you provide some color or help us think about how that breaks out and kind of where that fell in the P and L?

Speaker 3

Sure. So we had two things, town and when I say town, I'm referring to the Town Indemnification Proceeds, I'll just call it Town and Atlantic, the effect of the Atlantic acquisition. Those matters were not finalized at the time of our last quarter call when we gave our guidance. And so we excluded those matters from our guidance. Town was $1,600,000 of proceeds that flowed through our operating income.

The EPS effect of that was about $04 $03 of an operating income effect and $01 an impact it had on the tax rate. Of that 1,600,000.0 the biggest piece of it, which was $900,000 was in LTL and that landed in their other OpEx line. And it was an indemnification for professional fees that we'd incurred related to some claims that we inherited in the Town acquisition. And so it's going back against professional fees, which is in other OpEx in the LTL P and L. The other big piece of it was Corp, 600,000.

This would land we don't have stand alone Corp P and L, so you would see this in the consolidated P and L. It went against operating leases. We were indemnified for certain operating leases that we inherited where the terms ended up being different than what we had expected when we did the transaction. And so that's a good guide against the operating lease line. So that's how town breaks down.

It was 4 pennies. And then we did not include Atlantic, but Atlantic is performing better than we expected. And Atlantic contributed about $600,000 of operating income in the second quarter for the short half a quarter period that we owned Atlantic. And so that was about a penny. So that's the breakout of the $05 If you back the $05 out of the $0.64 we landed at $0.59 which was the high end of our guidance range.

Speaker 1

Got you. That is helpful. Bruce, as I look at Solutions, the OR there has been running about, call it, about 500 basis points better year over year through the first half of this year.

Speaker 2

Correct.

Speaker 1

Should we expect a similar level of OR improvement in the second half?

Speaker 2

I hope so. We worked hard to get it to where it is. Our team there has really stabilized. They're doing a great job. They're getting additional wins of business.

Seems like almost daily we picked up another almost $5,000,000 of new business this week. That will help us going into the third and fourth quarters. So they're going along really well right now.

Speaker 1

That's good to hear. And then last one for me. Mike, could you give us the monthly volume trends in expedited LTL in the 2Q? And then what the guidance assumes in terms of volume and yield for the 3Q?

Speaker 3

Sure. In the second quarter, our year over year tonnage per day, April was up 2.4%, May was up 2% and June was up 5.3%. So nice acceleration coming into the end of the quarter. With respect to our outlook, we're expecting high single digits year on year average daily tonnage growth for LTL. We think that's going to come from our growth initiatives.

It feels like the macro climate is getting a little better. But I do want to remind you that we have a soft comparable in the 2016. You may recall last August, we hit a bit of an air pocket in our tonnage. And so we're lapping a soft comp. Add those things together, we think we'll have average daily tonnage up in the high single digits range.

Speaker 1

Good deal. That's all for me. Congrats on a good quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 0

It looks like next we'll go to Jason Seidl with Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Thank you, operator. Good morning, gentlemen. Two quick ones for me here. One, hearing a transport company out there talk about preparing for peak season, some of their customers are telling them that peak season is actually going to be starting early this year. Didn't know what you heard from some of your customers, particularly in the pool area.

Speaker 2

That probably is a very fair assessment. When these things happen, especially in pool, what we're going through is the back to school portion right now. So we're not convinced that we'll see a move up, if you will, of the peak season, but it wouldn't shock us. And we're prepared if that happens.

Speaker 4

And how's back to school been for Pool?

Speaker 2

Good. We're pleased. Okay.

Speaker 4

And I guess the other thing piggybacking on the new LTL services and you guys are going to I guess change how you report on the yield going forward. Could you sort of walk us through what type of an impact that's going to have on a yield on a year over year basis, all things being equal, just looking at the mix of business change?

Speaker 3

I wouldn't definitively say we're going to change what we disclose. I just wanted to signal that we're looking at it just to be clear.

Speaker 4

Okay. Well can you walk us through sort of what kind of change to expect in terms of just on the mix of business portion of that?

Speaker 3

I think you're going to see denser freight

Speaker 2

that So quickly, from a real simplistic way to look at it, if you pick up a 5,000 pound shipment, you're going to get a lower rate per hundredweight than you do for a 600 pound shipment. So part of that yield going down is good. There's nothing wrong with that. It's efficient for us in our operating system, etcetera. But we do want to make sure our yield in our normal business, our core business, is hopefully going to improve as we go forward in the year.

Right now it's basically flat. So if you look at, let's say, out six months and this is truly a guess because we haven't been through it and you look at the total overall yield of corporation, if we're flat year over year, we'll be very happy.

Speaker 4

Okay. No, that's great color commentary guys. That's all I have. I appreciate the time as always.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 0

Next we have Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hi guys. This is Ryan Greenwald in for Scott Group. Congrats on the quarter end. Thanks for taking our call.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Speaker 5

So just kind of wanted some clarification on the third quarter outlook. So you guys kind of anticipate earnings to be down sequentially. So is that if we exclude the town and the acquisition one time that wasn't in the guidance, I guess so why are we anticipating it to drop sequentially? Can you kind of talk a little further on the drivers?

Speaker 3

Yes, yes. This is Mike, Ryan. We do expect a continuation of our growth trends in revenue. We think our strategic initiatives are going to continue to give us good revenue growth. In this particular quarter, we are expecting some cost headwinds that we're going to have to manage around.

We have increased merit pay. We've got higher incentive compensation. Insurance premiums on a year over year basis are going to be higher. And we have some expectation for some adverse reserves development that we're going to have to manage around as well. So we've got some cost headwinds in this quarter that we're concerned about.

But bigger picture, we believe we can continue to grow the company.

Speaker 5

Got you. Great. Does that help? And then yes. And so moving over to the driver recruitment problems, can you kind of talk a little bit further about that expectations for pay increases and how quickly we can offset that with pricing?

Speaker 2

Sure. Went through recruiting to me and the way the company views it, we go through cycles. It's hard to avoid a down cycle. And we just went through a bad period as we were going into really the latter part of the quarter where we had to go outside and get more and more outside carriers to help supplement our fleet. We have since turned that around, have added almost 10 teams a week for the last three or four weeks.

So we're pleased with the growth that we've had there. But we have more work to do. Anticipate an increase in owner operator pay per mile. We'll be ready to talk about that in about thirty days. But that without question is going to happen.

If we increase our pay, obvious to our owneroperators, two things that we really work on to help negate that. One is to add more and more teams so we aren't paying $0.50 more a mile when we go to outside carriers, which we think we can do. And then secondly, we're going to have to look real hard, as we discussed earlier, at our pricing because that's a hard cost to negate as we move forward. Overall, right now, we like where we are. We've got more work to do.

We have to be prepared for peak season and I think our team will get us there.

Speaker 5

Got you. Thank you. So net net cost should come

Speaker 2

down? Absolutely. What you saw in the second quarter with the increase in PT, even though it was still a decent number, it didn't match last year's. Last year's PT in the second quarter was probably the best in the history of our company. When you start supplementing that cost as we talked about earlier, with outside carriers, it hurts.

So again, our drive is to get rid of that cost as we go forward in the year and to be better prepared as we hit peak season.

Speaker 5

Makes sense. Thank you. And then lastly on the volume growth outlook does that include an expectation of a GRI?

Speaker 2

Sorry No, does does not.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. That's all for us.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks, Thanks, Matthew.

Speaker 0

Looks like next we have the line of David Ross with Stifel. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Yes. Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 6

First, you talked about the nice new wins you're getting in the pool side of things. Can you talk about any start up costs? Because in the past, as you've grown that segment, there's been some start up costs that haven't allowed the margins to expand. Do you think you're past that or should that be less so in the second half of this year?

Speaker 2

Are you really asking me a question about Solutions?

Speaker 6

I'm starting with a question from Solutions. That's my lead.

Speaker 2

It depends on the type of business we onboard. So if it's more of a dedicated type operation, then we do have startup costs. Most of the business we're bringing on board the new business wins are what we call integrated, and those do not have much, if any, costs. So we just blend it in with our existing business.

Speaker 6

And then good news on the Atlantic Side because I guess my prior understanding was that wasn't going to become accretive until 4Q. So if you look at $600,000 in the second quarter, what's the seasonality of that business? Could we assume a $1,200,000 EBIT run rate for 3Q and 4Q?

Speaker 3

No, I think

Speaker 7

3Q

Speaker 3

maybe zero one dollars zero zero five 4Q zero one dollars There's still some integration costs that are being incurred as we integrate them. And then so I'd say for a full year, you know, in the range of $03 which is about what we said on the second quarter call. We said $0.02 to $3 on the second kind of prior quarter call. I'd say $03 feels a little more likely. And then from an EBITDA perspective, we said $2,500,000 on the last quarter call.

That's probably $3,000,000 Atlantic is performing very well.

Speaker 6

That's good. And then if we look at TLX, the margins were roughly cut in half last year. Is there any reason that they can't return back closer to double digits that we saw back in 'fifteen?

Speaker 2

They'll get back there. It's truly a matter of drivers. They did have a couple business startups that required them to place equipment that cost them quite a bit of money. But it really gets down to you got to have owner operators. If you're doing all outside sourcing on this business, it hurts your margins.

So they have a goal in place. We think they're going to improve it and get to back to the double digits as we go forward.

Speaker 6

Okay. So if we look at your owner operators doing about half the miles right now, Is there a target in do you want an owner operator doing 70% of the miles to get back there, 80% of the miles? How do you think about it?

Speaker 2

A lot depends on the business and the sources of the business. But typically we like to be at 60 fivethirty five. Okay. Now, you pointed out, we're simply not there. But we think we can get there.

So a lot of work being done.

Speaker 6

Excellent. Well, you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you. You Have a good too.

Speaker 0

Next we have the line of Todd Fowler of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks. Good morning, Bruce. Hi, Mike.

Speaker 3

How are you?

Speaker 7

Bruce, I'm fine. Thank Looking at the tonnage growth here in the quarter and the expectations for the back half of the year, I understand there's some comparisons going on. But can you talk a little bit with the internal initiatives and some of the growth strategies that you have. What sort of business are you targeting? Is that your traditional freight forwarder?

Are you specifically going after some of the e commerce kind of the bulky stuff that we're now seeing moved through the e commerce channel? Can you talk a little bit about what you're kind of targeting to bring into the network at this point?

Speaker 2

Yes, the quick answer is yes to all that. Our team continues to work with our forwarding customers. We see a more favorable atmosphere out there. The forwarders are doing well, better than in the past two or three years. So we're happy with that.

We want to make sure we're in position to grab that additional business that they gained. We also have initiatives into the 3PL business. That's taken us a while to get systems in place, to get owner operator delivery in place throughout the nation. We are close to having our entire network built out on that. When that occurs, you'll see even more business come out of the 3PL initiative.

So far they've really done a good job. And we're just about, I should say, ready to gear it up big time.

Speaker 7

And what exactly does that mean, Bruce, as far as is that a bigger push with that customer base? Or I don't know if I fully understand that comment. And I'm guessing there's probably some intentional vagueness in there as well.

Speaker 2

Know, through GL businesses is you post your price, they either like your price or they don't. What it does require us to do is develop and we have done this different back office functions, if you will. Our systems are different for that business. They're not difficult. Everybody does it.

But you have to have them. So it took us a little while. Normal implementation of that. We now have that in place. The other thing that has to go on is because we're doing more and more pickup and delivery is we have to have we prefer to have, let me say, our own owner operator pickup and delivery network.

We are probably halfway through the process of adding owner operators in Dallas, as an example, where they can go out and either pick up or delivery. It's much more cost efficient for us to do it as opposed to outsourcing. But it takes time. You can't recruit that overnight. You can't train your local people overnight.

We're installing in about 75% of the way through on a local pickup and delivery software program. That is really outstanding. We just simply don't have it all the way there yet. We will by the end of the third quarter. And that's why we really feel as we go forward that this business is going to provide a lot of additional volume to the Fort Air network.

Speaker 7

Is that more Yes, it's crystal clear now. Thank you. So just another question kind of along those lines. As you think about how the freight in your network has changed the profile of it over the last several years, I know that you guys are being very thoughtful about your pricing actions and how you're getting compensated. And I know that some of other people are handling the changes in freight profile have struggled a little bit with that mix.

What I'm getting at is structurally and your operating ratio is still fantastic. But structurally, do you think you can still show improvement within the operating ratio, maybe a couple of 100 basis points down to the low 80s within the LTL business? Or is there something that has structurally changed within just the freight profile that may prohibit you from getting there?

Speaker 2

We can get there. When you get into OR stat load, everything has to be perfect. So you can't have any bumps. You can't do any silly things. But if everything's perfect or close to we can certainly get there.

We understand how to price freight better than we ever have. So we know where we have a problem, where we don't have a problem on pricing. Our people have as you said, freight has changed dramatically. And our people have learned how to we call it hug freight, you got to handle it as opposed to forklifting it. Those are processes that you go through with any type of new business.

I think our team has done a really good job of adjusting and learning how to handle it the most efficient way we possibly can, which will then deliver good results to the bottom line.

Speaker 7

I guess we've come to expect perfection, so maybe that's part of it. Mike, just a couple of last quick ones. So there were the comments earlier about the higher merit pay. Do you have a number amount? Was that in your original guidance for the second quarter?

And then what would our what should our expectations be for merit pay for the rest of the year?

Speaker 3

Yes, we anticipate this in our guidance, but we still get these questions of pay on an absolute year over year basis. Why aren't we seeing more profitability. In the third quarter, if you take merit and incentive comp, you're probably at $2,500,000 Year over year? Yes. I mean, we're our planning process means that we have a greater probability of paying a bonus, the improvements we've made.

We have to lap that and then that'll just become part of the backdrop. But don't forget about insurance premiums. I mean, that's an issue in this in our sector. We've got some increased premiums. And as I mentioned, there are some reserves that we're concerned about in the third quarter, which I won't quantify that we have to manage around.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then just lastly, from an overall cost structure structure standpoint, this is maybe a little bit more of an intermediate term question. I think we all to a certain extent understand the cost pressures on owner operators and capacity, the salaries piece. But is there anything else structurally within the network either facility costs or IT investments that you need to make that's substantial? And I guess I'm trying to think about cost inflation that you'd see over the next couple of years?

Or is it a situation where infrastructure is in place and there's going to be things like insurance and things like driver pay that you should get the leverage on if you're able to get the volume and the yields that you're anticipating?

Speaker 2

Yes, the latter part of your statement is exactly right.

Speaker 7

Okay,

Speaker 2

we're comfortable that know, is probably a bad word. But we're working hard to make sure that our other costs stay in line. There's a little we can do about insurance premiums. You have to obviously have a safe fleet. But it's going to when two underwriters leave the market, you're going to pay an increase.

And then the owner operator pay, as you well know, is subject to supply and demand. And we're going to have pressure on that.

Speaker 7

Okay. Those are the main ones that I had. Thanks for the time this morning.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

No further questions here in queue. That does conclude Forward Air's second quarter twenty seventeen earnings conference call. Please remember the webcast will be available on the Investor Relations section of Forward Air's website at forwardaircorp.com shortly after this call. We do thank you very much for your participation. You may now disconnect.