Globalstar - Earnings Call - Q4 2024
February 27, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q4 2024 revenue rose 17% year over year to $61.2M, driven by wholesale capacity services; adjusted EBITDA increased 21% to $30.4M, while GAAP net loss widened to $50.2M due to non‑cash debt extinguishment and FX losses.
- Full-year 2024 revenue reached a record $250.3M (+12% YoY), exceeding the high end of guidance; adjusted EBITDA was a record $135.3M (54% margin).
- Management reiterated 2025 guidance: revenue $260–$285M and adjusted EBITDA margin ~50%, citing near‑term margin compression from strategic investments in XCOM RAN and MSS product development.
- Catalysts: launch of two‑way satellite IoT (RM200M), FCC 15-year mobile earth terminal renewal, expanded services agreements (new constellation, ground infrastructure), and uplisting to Nasdaq Global Select via 1‑for‑15 reverse split.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Wholesale capacity services were the primary growth driver; Q4 service revenue increased 18% YoY with adjusted EBITDA up 21% YoY to $30.4M.
- Commercial IoT posted Q4 service revenue growth (+8% YoY) on higher subscribers and ARPU; full‑year Commercial IoT service revenue achieved a record.
- Strategic progress: two‑way satellite IoT launched; Band n53 5G data call reached 100 Mbps/60 Mbps, expanding terrestrial opportunities and validating spectrum utility.
- Quote: “We are reiterating our previously‑issued financial guidance for 2025… adjusted EBITDA margin expected to be approximately 50%, impacted by incremental strategic investments…” — CFO Rebecca Clary.
- Quote: “We made important strides… partnerships with Parsons, Peiker, Liquid Intelligent Technologies… expansion of our wholesale capacity arrangement…” — CEO Dr. Paul E. Jacobs.
What Went Wrong
- GAAP net loss in Q4 widened to $50.2M, primarily from non‑cash loss on extinguishment of debt and unfavorable FX; operating loss was $4.2M despite revenue growth.
- Subscriber‑driven revenue declined $1.3M in Q4 on expected Duplex churn and fewer SPOT activations, partially offset by Commercial IoT growth.
- Operating expenses rose modestly (+2% YoY) on network operating and product development costs tied to ground infrastructure and MSS/XCOM initiatives.
- Execution visibility: management did not provide updated launch timing for the extended MSS constellation; ground gateway build‑out ongoing and long‑cycle.
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Globalstar Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a Q&A session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Rebecca Clary, CFO. Please go ahead.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we begin, please note that today's call contains forward-looking statements intended to fall within the safe harbor provided under the securities laws. Factors that could cause the results to differ materially are described in the risk factors section of Globalstar's SEC filings, including its most recent annual report on Form 10-K and its other SEC filings, as well as today's earnings release. Also note that management may reference EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA on this call, which are financial measures not recognized under U.S. GAAP. As required by SEC rules and regulations, these non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled to their most comparable GAAP financial measures in the earnings release, which is available on our website.
I'll begin today by sharing our fourth quarter and full year 2024 results. I'll then turn it over to Paul, who will cover key business updates. Before I get into the financials, I am pleased to share two strategic actions we have recently completed. In an effort to enhance our stock's liquidity and marketability, we successfully completed our uplisting to the Nasdaq Global Select Market earlier this month. This milestone represents a natural evolution for Globalstar and aligns with our strategy to increase our visibility within the investment community. In connection with our transfer to Nasdaq, we implemented our planned 1 for 15 reverse stock split, which serves multiple strategic purposes. This action realigns our outstanding shares to more normalized levels relative to our peers and optimizes our trading fundamentals to improve liquidity.
Importantly, our post-split shares now meet institutional minimum stock price requirements, potentially broadening our investor base. For modeling purposes, our current common shares outstanding are approximately 126.4 million. Tomorrow, we plan to file new and amended registration statements to, among other things, reflect the impact of this split. You can also find more information related to the split in our February 7th 8-K filing. Now turning to our results, beginning with the fourth quarter. Total revenue increased 17% to $61.2 million compared to the prior year period of $52.4 million. Service revenue increased 18%, driven primarily by wholesale capacity revenue.
Additionally, commercial IoT increased 8% during the quarter due to an increase in both average subscribers and ARPU. We are pleased to see continued adoption of our IoT services. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 21% to $30.4 million compared to the prior year period of $25.1 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin also increased from the prior year period due to higher revenue of $8.8 million, which was offset partially by an increase in operating expenses of $3.5 million. Turning to our full year results, total revenue for the year increased 12%, reaching a record $250.3 million and exceeding the top end of our guidance range. Service revenue increased 16% year over year, driven primarily by wholesale capacity and our second full year of providing service under this contract.
Additionally, we saw record annual service revenue from our commercial IoT business in 2024, which is a testament to the growth that we are seeing with existing and new customers due to the wider variety of new use cases that have expanded our addressable market. As Paul will discuss, we look forward to expansion of our product offerings this year with the long-awaited launch of a two-way device as announced yesterday. In 2024, we achieved record annual Adjusted EBITDA of $135.3 million, a 16% increase year over year. From a margin perspective, Adjusted EBITDA margin was 54%, up 190 basis points from 52% in 2023. Moving to our balance sheet, we ended the year with $391.2 million of cash on hand.
Cash flows from 2024 were impacted significantly by the updated services agreements. Since the closing of these agreements in November of 2024 through the end of the year, the company has received a total investment from its customer of $913 million, including cash payments totaling $689 million and certain in-kind asset contributions. The cash payments included the proceeds from the sale of 20% equity in the Globalstar SPE subsidiary, the proceeds from the current debt repayment that were used to pay off the 2023 13% notes, and certain advanced service payments under the infrastructure prepayment.
A portion of the cash payments received was used to fund capital expenditures for the Extended MSS Network. The remaining amount of approximately $320 million was held in cash and cash equivalents as of December 31st, 2024, and will be used in 2025 to fund infrastructure for the Extended MSS Network. We expect additional advanced service payments under the infrastructure prepayment to continue through the duration of the construction and launch of this new network.
This activity is more fully disclosed in our November 1st and 7th 8-K filings and in our 10-K, which we plan to file with the SEC tomorrow after the markets close. Now turning to our guidance, which we announced at our Analyst and Investor Day on December 12th. For 2025, we are expecting revenue to be between $260 million-$285 million, representing 9% year-over-year growth at the midpoint, and an adjusted EBITDA margin around 50%. Our forecasted adjusted EBITDA margin reflects short-term compression driven by strategic investments to support long-term growth initiatives, primarily relating to further development of our XCOM RAN terrestrial solution and expansion of our MSS product portfolio.
During the Analyst Day, we also reiterated a long-range forecast reflecting the updated services agreements. During the first full year of service provided over the Extended MSS Network, we expect total revenue to double the 2024 amount, reaching $500 million, and to generate robust margins in excess of 54%. This forecast excludes certain key growth opportunities that are too difficult to forecast with precision, such as large terrestrial spectrum and XCOM RAN deployments. However, this in no way means we are not confident in our future contributions. I want to emphasize that these targets factor in our expectations regarding market position, growth drivers, and operational capabilities.
In just over two years, our wholesale capacity partnership has transformed Globalstar with a series of significant planned network investments. These investments provide us with a foundation to deliver sustainable increased earnings while we position the company for future growth. We believe we have the right strategy and execution capability to deliver on these commitments while creating sustainable long-term shareholder value. Additionally, this outlook underscores several key themes. First, our ability to consistently deliver strong top-line growth while maintaining healthy margins. Second, our disciplined approach to balancing growth investments. And finally, our confidence in the expanding market opportunities ahead of us. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Paul.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Thanks, Rebecca. It's great to be on the call with all of you today. I'm very pleased with our strong performance in 2024 and the recent progress we've made on commercial and operational bases, so I'll start off with a high-level review and then update on those topics before providing an overview of our expectations for 2025. First, I'll just say it was great to be back at Nasdaq a few weeks ago to ring the opening bell, and it really signifies a new stage for Globalstar. Obviously, I've been there and experienced many milestones. Nasdaq is actually shown by pictures on the walls and some innovations that have been involved in developing, and that's now in the museum, and we added a Globalstar satellite model into the Nasdaq museum, so this event really marked another moment that our team can be proud of.
It's clear to me that Globalstar is very well positioned in both the satellite and terrestrial connectivity markets, both of which present significant growth opportunities for the company. We've invested billions of dollars in the satellite business, and we're happy to say that hundreds of millions of devices can connect to our satellites, and that number continues to grow both for our wholesale and our direct businesses. Until now, Globalstar's 500,000-plus deployed active units have only been able to support one-way tracking and telemetry applications, so we could do tracking around the world very well but lack the ability to communicate back to the device for command applications, and I'm proud that our refocused product development team, whose hard work under new leadership has enabled us to deliver the full two-way satellite commercial IoT solutions. We have an extremely low-cost structure, which leverages the investments in our wholesale business.
And with our time-tested uplink and our new state-of-the-art downlink, we intend to aggressively compete for subscribers in markets that already exist and are ripe for disruption. We believe that our globally licensed L-band and S-band offer a unique asset to anyone looking to deliver connectivity. Our dedicated spectrum resource, which is almost 4X that of any other D2D player currently, and our bent pipe architecture differentiate Globalstar. Everyone else has to borrow spectrum or put up more or larger satellites to match where we already are. And we're not standing still. It's an exciting time in D2D. We've been a leader in the space with our transformational deal and will continue to innovate. And of course, with any new technology that's rapidly evolving, comes a lot of speculation. So I just want to take the opportunity to address a few inquiries we've received.
First of all, we've been in development with our wholesale customer since long before other providers made their direct-to-cell announcements. We enabled the first commercial D2D service years ago, and we've been successfully operating it since that time with progressively improved features. We believe that speculation about the capabilities of other services has been overstated. No other direct-to-cellular service provider is currently supporting hundreds of millions of devices with years of experience operating at commercial scale, and none have deployed outside the U.S. across contiguous bands. While it's early days for others, we're in development for our next constellation. We've extended our initial contract with our customer, funding a significant investment for new and improved satellite constellations.
The structure of our relationship is one in which we pre-sold certain capacity, and our revenues are unaffected by utilization, except, of course, to the extent that additional satellites may be needed to provide increased capacity or capabilities in the future. As for the speculation around the regulatory landscape and the potential for sharing our spectrum, I just want to say that we've been at this for a long time. Globalstar has worked successfully with various administrations for over 25 years, and these systems take years to plan and operate for decades, and there are now hundreds of millions of consumers globally who have access to life-saving and convenient connectivity through our constellation. Our spectrum is being actively used to provide these and other important services available globally, and that's what regulators want to see, and the regulatory landscape has fostered a wave of innovation in the satellite industry.
As recent announcements have shown, there is no lack of competition in the provision of direct-to-cellular services. We provide mission-critical connectivity that saves lives, and we continue to launch new technologies using our spectrum. Our bent pipe satellite architecture is uniquely suited to enable the rapid deployment of new innovations, and the certainty of our spectrum position for over 30 years has enabled us and our customers to make billions of dollars of investments in satellites, ground networks, and research and development. We believe we're well-positioned with our arrangement, our wholesale capacity customer, and with the current and future growth opportunities. Our unique financial arrangement provides network funding, enabling us to create valuable capacity solutions at a very competitive price point.
Even with our spectrum advantage and wholesale agreements, we do remain considerably smaller than certain of our direct competitors, and we're working to close that gap and are now well-positioned to do so aggressively. Now, the terrestrial side of the business. Globalstar's Band n53 and XCOM RAN capabilities present partners with valuable mission-critical applications and connectivity solutions that are high performance and reliable. The XCOM RAN team has met every technical milestone put in front of them and have continued to develop technologies that will allow us to better serve our customers. We're believers in the future of automation in both consumer, industrial, enterprise, and defense environments, and all benefit from connectivity solutions that we are well-suited to deliver.
Also, the Band n53 ecosystem has advanced with XCOM RAN and other technologies and is ready to generate cash. We're expanding the sales force both internally and externally to push both Band n53 and XCOM RAN out into the world and expect to make tangible progress this year. Now, to update on some of the projects we've discussed. First, and very importantly, we detailed in our November 1st Form 8-K an updated service agreement with our wholesale customer, which demonstrates continued investment in support of product and service development. While there are other options, our team and our assets continue to be the chosen partner. Under these updated agreements, we'll maintain 100% of all terrestrial MSS and other revenue while continuing to allocate 85% of our network capacity for satellite services to the customer across both existing and new satellites.
The remaining 15% capacity will continue serving our direct MSS customers, ensuring we maintain our commitment to our diverse and growing customer base. Further, we've achieved a major milestone in our partnership with Parsons Corporation, successfully demonstrating our software-defined satellite communication solution using our low-Earth orbit constellation. This first-of-its-kind demonstration in North America represents a breakthrough in providing mission-critical solutions for our congested environments, particularly in the public sector and defense applications. The proof of concept, initiated in early 2024, is advancing towards commercial service, positioning us to capture significant opportunities in these high-value markets.
As we have said, this opportunity has the potential to be a significant annual contributor to revenue and cash flow, and our confidence in it remains high. Our technology leadership continues to strengthen, as evidenced by our successful completion of the first 5G data call on our Band n53 spectrum, achieving impressive speeds of 100 megabits per second download and 60 megabits per second upload in 10 megahertz of spectrum. This breakthrough enables advanced applications such as robotics, autonomous vehicles, and augmented reality, while offering our partners a versatile, fully licensed channel for enhanced wireless connectivity.
On the regulatory front, we enhanced our long-term operational foundation with a 15-year renewal of our blanket Mobile Earth Terminal authorization from the FCC, ensuring continued authority to operate our Mobile Earth Terminals with satellites throughout the United States and its territories. This builds upon the company winning terrestrial authority in Mexico earlier in the fourth quarter. Collectively, these developments reinforce our position as a leader in satellite communications and innovative spectrum solutions, while expanding our market reach and strengthening revenue potential across multiple sectors. In summary, we believe we're well-positioned to continue to execute on our long-term growth strategy.
We're seeing results from investments we've made so far and are excited for 2025 and the years ahead. We've spent a significant amount of time identifying markets that we can grow in and designing proprietary solutions to address the need of customers for years ahead. Further to this, we've been increasing our team at Globalstar with professionals that know how to win, grow, and scale businesses, and I could not be more excited about our future. And finally, I just want to thank all my colleagues at Globalstar for their dedication and hard work in 2024. So I'll turn the call back to the operator for a Q&A, and thanks, everybody.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the Q&A session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press Star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mike Crawford with B. Riley Securities. Go ahead, Mike. Your line is open.
Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director of Head Discovery Group)
Thank you. We did see the constellation details for the Extended MSS Network constellation with over 50 software-defined Aurora satellites that have, I believe, what you refer to as state-of-the-art downlink where you're requesting to have alternating levels of power that you can put down. Is that correct, and can you help explain what that attribute brings?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I mean, so those Aurora satellites have beamforming capabilities. And obviously, yeah, we've been able to control power. And it's a digital satellite, so the processing that can be done is minimal, but it does allow us to direct signals to different antenna elements.
Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director of Head Discovery Group)
Okay. Thank you. And then is there any update you can give on the timing of when these satellites might start to launch or be fully deployed? We do know now that there's been design of the architecture for almost a year and a half now, I think. So any update on timing of when these could potentially launch?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yeah, we haven't given an update on that yet, unfortunately.
Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director of Head Discovery Group)
And then related, there's a number of new ground infrastructure and gateways you'll be putting in place. Is that something that's going to be occurring this year?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
That's all underway. There's a lot of stuff that has to be done for gateways, particularly when they're greenfield. So it starts with finding the right place and acquiring the land if it's from the ground up, built from ground up, or finding the right teleports. And just a lot of stuff that needs to be done. And then there's all the issues of getting the right amount of connectivity and redundancy and resilience and all those things. So that process is fairly long-term. So yeah, so all that stuff is underway.
Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director of Head Discovery Group)
Okay. Thank you. I'll just ask one more, switching gears to XCOM RAN. So we do know that initially that you were designing that to work with unlicensed CBRS spectrum. Now, I believe you're done incorporating Band n53 into the solution more natively, but is there any progress on your one large retail customer or other customers that we could look to or maybe hold forth as some guideposts to look for accomplishments that we can measure you against in this year?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yeah. I mean, it's like I've said before, and I experienced this in Qualcomm too. If you have a lead customer for a new technology, you keep building. It's a great tailwind, but you're subject to the customer's decision on when they decide to push the button and roll out. And it doesn't necessarily have to do with just the communication system. So we're in the place where we've done a tremendous amount of work. We've built out to the technical requirements.
Actually now, what a bunch of the team is working on is being able to cost reduce, come down the cost curve so that we can be even more effective and more competitive with other potential solutions so we don't have to just be at the high end of the market, but also kind of across being competitive with Wi-Fi or mesh Wi-Fi solutions that we see or other 5G small cell kind of solutions. So we're really focused in on that as we sort of wait for the customer to make their own decisions about rollout. And then, of course, we're also working on kind of the pipeline of other opportunities as well.
Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director of Head Discovery Group)
All right. Thank you very much.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
One moment for our next question. The next question comes from the line of Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. Go ahead. Your line is open.
Simon Flannery (Managing Director)
Great. Thank you very much. Good evening. Rebecca, you talked about EBITDA margins facing some short-term pressures, and you have the long-term guidance of getting back to the sort of mid-50s or so. So should we think about 25 being the trough on EBITDA margins and then a gradually improving, or is it more it'll sort of stay here until you get the Extended MSS? And related to that, any color you can give us on CapEx free cash flow for 25? And then a second one for Paul, just on the expanded MSS, who will obviously have the MDA deal publicly. It'd just be really helpful if you could give us any color on what the timeline looks like. Is three years a kind of a reasonable estimate from kind of signing the contract to when we start to see the constellation get launched and deployed? Thanks.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Thanks for the question, Simon. So on the first one for the margin compression, I would say it's in the 12- to 18-month timelines. They're certainly not waiting on the Extended MSS Network to be deployed since the investments are more related to XCOM RAN and MSS product development. So those we expect to generate revenue in the kind of shorter timeframe. And then your second question, sorry, in free cash flow?
Simon Flannery (Managing Director)
Yeah. Just any color you could give us on how CapEx free cash might look like this year?
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Okay. So operating cash, it was really strong in 2024, and you'll see more details of that when we file the 10-K tomorrow. But we did have a little bit of color in the earnings release. As there's kind of each phase of the wholesale arrangement has its own nuances. So for phase two, some of that CapEx is funded upfront and shows up in financing, and then it'll get reimbursed over time. And then for the Extended MSS Network, we have funding that we're receiving today. A lot of that is hitting operating cash flow because it's deferred revenue, so advanced service payments that will earn over the course of the satellite's life. So it's very much a timing issue and kind of how you think about reimbursable CapEx when you're computing free cash flow. Hopefully, that was helpful.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yeah. Just trying to think about the modeling aspect of it. Yeah. I know there's a lot of moving parts.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Yeah.
Right. So.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Sorry. I thought you were done.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Go ahead, Paul.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
No, I was just going to talk to the next question, so finish up.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
No, I was just going to give a little bit more color, Simon. So we've incurred about $250 million to date under the phase two satellites, and $155 million of that has been funded by our customer. That number and the balance by us through operating cash flow. And the objective through that funding agreement is to pay for the upfront CapEx 50/50, right? So we've probably got another $150 million to get through that first launch of the satellites. And again, that will be split evenly. Hopefully, that's helpful with the launch still expected to happen in 2025.
Simon Flannery (Managing Director)
Okay. Thank you.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
All right, then on the MSS timeline, like I said to Mike, I mean, we haven't updated that and announced that, and certainly, customers that work with us are sensitive to the timing of their service launches, so yeah, I can't really comment too much on that.
Simon Flannery (Managing Director)
Okay. Understood. Thank you. Maybe just one more on the two-way IoT. It was nice to see that coming through, and it sounds like there's a nice opportunity there. When does that become material to the numbers? Is that something we'll see in 2025, or is it still going to be small for a couple of years until that scales?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I mean, we're expecting to start.
Rebecca Clary (CFO)
Sorry. Go ahead, Paul.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I mean, we're in beta right now. So as we went into beta with customers, we were looking for customers that could rapidly turn on. But I would say this year, I think it's the beginning of the ramp. And then I would say next year, we would expect to get very well into the deployment of it. But if it turns out that somebody's got something that hits, we are set up for manufacturing, and that will be ready to go. It's a little bit dependent on our partners building out their particular applications with it.
Obviously, some of our customers that we're talking to have two-way-based devices already. So in some cases, relatively easy for them to swap a modem in. And so we're hopeful that some of those can come to market sooner, but I can't commit to that at this point. It's really dependent on our partners.
Simon Flannery (Managing Director)
It seems like you're getting good feedback from the field.
Yeah.We are definitely getting good feedback, which is good. We spent a lot of time hammering on this thing. It is beta, so every so often, there's something, but we were able to turn those around when somebody has an issue with something or a feature request for the future, that kind of stuff, so it's been actually quite a good beta process for us, and obviously, having some customers that know they've been banging on the downlink, which we haven't been able to supply in the past, so it's really good to see packets flying over that part of the network too.
Thanks a lot.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
One moment for our next question. Next question comes from the line of Walter Piecyk with LightShed Partners. Go ahead. Your line is open.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Thanks. In the filing or petition that you made to the FCC recently, you referenced basically this new satellite, this new constellation providing the essential foundation for a variety of new innovative direct-to-device satellite features on supported devices. Can you just kind of provide a little bit more color on what some of those new innovative features might be?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
It's kind of the same answer I gave before. So obviously, we have a customer that's or even a set of customers that are sensitive to kind of their feature roadmap or service launch timing and so forth. So the only thing that I think I could point to is just that the satellites do have some new capabilities to them. And so I would expect that those will be used by our customers.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Is there a way to, when you kind of conceptualize the market user demand, what those new innovative features address in terms of number of years before the consumer demands more? And how many years do you think basically does that get you before you go to maybe constellation four with potentially even greater and new features?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Gosh, projecting what the consumer is going to demand and what the price points are going to be is kind of hard to do. I mean, I've already talked a lot about the fact that there is an approved business model for broadband, kind of Netflix in the mountains, broadband out of coverage. Most people are in coverage, spend very little time out of coverage except for maybe dead zones or something like that. So I think understanding that is something everybody's watching carefully. Certainly, there's some companies that are building kind of the field of dreams and the expectation that consumers will demand these services, and they'll be willing to spend significant amounts of incremental dollars.
I mean, as you know, back in Qualcomm, we built a video service in 3G days called MediaFLO, and it was an incremental cost to your service. And limo drivers in Vegas loved it, but not that many other people were willing to pay extra for that kind of an incremental service. So maybe it's a little bit like that. How much will you pay for video service outside of coverage? I don't think that we've seen that model is proven at all. So until we see that, we see other kinds of demand. I think it's unknown. Obviously, there are investors who believe heavily in this and are investing heavily in this, but you and I have been through a number of these technology cycles. So it's not clear which ones take off and which ones don't.
And I think what is proven is that there's clear benefit for safety and security, and it's being used. It's saving lives. That's good. Whether people are willing to pay incremental dollars for more multimedia in their messaging. Not known yet. Obviously, we want to be able to serve those kinds of things if necessary. And beyond that, I mean, Globalstar and Iridium went bankrupt decades ago trying to do voice and relatively low-speed data outside of cellular coverage. Now, admittedly, that was with a separate device, but still, the demand was fairly niche. So I think that that's a cautionary tale. And we've been through it as a company in the past.
So I would say that we are quite focused on finding those parts of the business that are able to generate revenues and profitability that can fund constellations. Fortunately, we have the wholesale business, which does a very good job of funding a constellation. Others, I think, have to prove that their business model will do that.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
I know it's still early, but is there any indication in terms of location of usage on the direct-to-device stuff, meaning that the often-used example is the stranded hiker in the middle of Utah, but where I'm using it is in Westchester County, and it's helping me text on locations where NIMBYs have kept cell sites. Do you have any, even if it's anecdotal, indication where the product can be used so far since being activated?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I mean, the anecdotes you hear are often around something where there's been a natural event or something where the cell service has gone down over a wide area. And that makes sense because that's where there's a lot of people. Even cellular dead zones are relatively small geographic regions. And certainly, uncovered areas are uncovered because not that many people go there. So you're not going to generate massive usage through that. You will provide peace of mind to people. I think that's super important. But then when you have sort of a natural event, fire, or some weather event, that's where you can see large numbers of people wanting to have some connectivity. But obviously, that's very, very infrequent and in relatively constrained geographical areas.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Maybe I'll ask the question a different way. I don't disagree in terms of, but the consumer might be willing to spend for that infrequent use at that time that's in that location. I guess, and again, maybe you just don't see this data, but has there been usage that has extended beyond just in the desert and beyond perhaps the pings that I've been hitting here? I mean, is it being used in multiple locations, or is it only being used in situations where there's been kind of like a power outage, whatever it is, national security issue?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Oh, no. Sorry. I didn't mean to say that it was only being used there. I think we have examples of people that got rescued from being in the mountains and things like that. So I think there is usage. And look, I think that the opportunity to charge a lot to somebody who's in need exists. I don't know whether it's the nicest thing to do, but kind of a one-time usage thing. But the question is, does that build a business model that supports billions of dollars of satellite constellation investment? So the way that I.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
One last one.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yep.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Yeah. Sorry.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I was just going to say, I mean, the model that seems clear to me for any handset manufacturer is if they can reduce replacement cycle time on a large volume, large installed base, that's real money. Small changes in the replacement cycle time. So it's really, I think, the business model around having new features and a roadmap of new features is kind of a proven one. That certainly can work. Obviously, the T-Mobile advertisement, the Super Bowl ad, was talking about providing service to customers of other cellular networks.
So clearly, they're looking to try and create some churn. Whether that actually is something that can create churn, I don't know. That remains to be seen, but I'm personally a little skeptical of that, just sort of given the fact that there are hundreds of millions of people that already have connectivity over our constellation. So all these things really do remain to be seen. There's some lessons that we can draw from history, and you and I have been at this long enough that we can draw those lessons.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Just one last one. Just kind of drawing upon your long history and, as you pointed out my long history as well, thanks for that. Iridium's talked about having their technology now that they've actually finally gone to 3GPP standard. It goes into the chip, and theoretically, that makes it easier for the Android world, Samsung, I guess, specifically, to do for Samsung what you have effectively done for Apple.
Is it as easy as it-I don't want to put it on them that they describe it that I think is expected, meaning that, okay, you've got this standard, Qualcomm sticks it in the chip, it's available, Samsung says yay or nay, and they just light it up, and there's very little incremental cost in that they can implement relatively quickly to get Galaxies with the same functionality that Apple has been able to achieve with you guys?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
I guess I obviously don't know exactly what they've done. I guess I would say NTN, so the cellular standard, is somewhat complex. It's certainly not as efficient because it was intended to extend off of existing protocols and existing chipset designs and so forth. So we've been looking at that quite carefully in terms of how much overhead gets added by that, and it's substantial. So that will then possibly require some additional follow-on changes to the standard to make that work better. And then I would also say that there's people out there talking about doing GEO-based NTN services already.
So I actually have not looked at it specifically, but that's what I believe the claim is for the Google Pixels, that they have satellite capability from GEO. So going to a LEO actually takes some additional effort that was put into some later parts of the standard. The chip manufacturers that we've had some discussions with about that, there was extra work to be done. So it wasn't just a very simple thing to implement in the chips to go from GEO to LEO also because you have the movement and so forth.
Walter Piecyk (Partner and TMT Analyst)
Got it. Thank you.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
One moment for our next question. The next question comes from the line of Chris Quilty with Quilty Space. Go ahead. Your line is open.
Chris Quilty (Co-CEO and President)
Thanks. Paul, can you explain to us what's going on with the Big LEO MSS spectrum and some of the filings and deliberations there?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yeah. I mean, I think it's relatively simple that there are certain providers who have a spectrum solution which is less than optimal, particularly those that are using mobile network operator spectrum. And there's all sorts of opportunity cost issues and potential interference issues because the beams are wide and they can overlap terrestrial networks and so forth. So I think that there's just efforts by some other operators to find spectrum. And we're in a good position. We've been here for 30 years using the spectrum. Our spectrum has sort of the highest priority when it comes to coordination. And so I think we're in a good position, but there are those who see this position that have come into this market later, and they're trying to find any way that they could potentially get access to spectrum.
Chris Quilty (Co-CEO and President)
Thanks. That was perfectly clear even in type. Thank you.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Onqe moment for our next question. Last question comes from Lyman Delano with Beck, Mack & Oliver. Go ahead. Your line is open.
Lyman Delano (Partner)
Good afternoon. I have three questions sort of related to the upcoming launches. You have 17 satellites coming from MDA beginning this year, I think with a right to nine additional satellites. All of that was to upgrade the current existing constellation. Then in February earlier this month, you announced the new contract with MDA for the 50 Aurora satellites. I'm just sort of wondering, are these satellites, are they related to the existing constellation, or would you say it's more of a new constellation?
My final question is, if you could update us on the application made in Germany back with the ITU in December of 2020. Now it's over four years ago, and that was later registered in May of 2022. The constellation was for 3,080 satellites and 10 orbital planes at 500-700 kilometers. Can you give us any color on what that is all about?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Okay. So the first question just about the Aurora satellites. Yeah. So I guess you can say that it's a new constellation, but it is in the same altitude using the same spectrum, and it works together with the satellites that are already up there. So there's ways that these satellites can interoperate or cooperate with each other. And that's because we're controlling both sets of satellites. And we can run the technologies over them. They're both bent pipe-style satellites. So that allows us to do a lot of stuff.
So in terms of the filing in Germany, as we know, filings are something that a lot of people make. It gives us some optionality, obviously, for larger constellations and so forth. Our head of regulatory, Barbee Ponder, can, if you want, follow up with you and give you a little bit more detail. It's really a question of just giving us optionality for the future.
Lyman Delano (Partner)
Okay. Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Great. One moment for our. We do have one more question. The next question comes from George Sutton with Craig-Hallum. Go ahead. Your line is open.
George Sutton (Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you. Very nice to see the move forward with the two-way device. So can you just talk about examples of two-way use cases and what we might see there?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Yes. So I mean, the main thing for the two-way is now that you can do commanding down so we can actually control things. I mean, if it turned out you need to turn a valve or you need to make something respond. So if you're controlling something that's a remote asset, you can do that. Now, it's not a real-time thing. It's still the same kind of packet delivery. We can get a little more throughput through it. And then as I look to the future, because we put additional processing capability built into the modem, one of the things that I like a lot is that you can imagine a remote asset out in the field running a local program that's monitoring that asset, maybe some AI on the edge.
And it could send an alert if it sees something out of normal operating parameters. The system could then, or the company that's running that asset or monitoring that asset could then send back, "Okay, we need to know more. Send us data on this or send us data on that," and so forth. So you can sort of control it so that you can not have all assets sending all of their information, their sensor data back. You can just have it that the one that actually needs to be talked to and send its sensor data back can send it back, but most of the work can be done on the local processing. That's an area that I'm super excited about going forward.
George Sutton (Senior Research Analyst)
Gotcha, and then I was certainly enthused by the presentation you had with Parsons at your analyst day. Can you, again, in the same kind of light, give us some sense of what kind of use cases they may be deploying with you, and how exactly will that go-to-market work?
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
Okay. So the go-to-market is through their channels. Obviously, we haven't been much of a government service provider in the past. And so we don't have all the same depth of relationships that somebody who's been in that area for a long time has. So they are building a pipeline, and they have their people that can do field support and so forth. So that's a great go-to-market strategy for us. It's another company that could come in, put their technology on the constellation because it's a bent pipe, and bring that to market. And we provide certain capabilities to them that they then leverage. And the use case, I can't say the specific things because I think we're actually finding more and more things, but I can't say what the first one that they came in with was.
But it is specifically to provide resilience of communication in RF-challenged environments, which seems quite clear why the government would be interested in that kind of a capability. So we're quite excited about it. The initial tests went off extremely well. It was quite easy for them to get their technology up and running in a really very short period of time. And we did a lot of testing. And the process now is to be doing some of that work in other markets at this point. So all kind of moving ahead very well. And I think the relationship between the companies is extremely strong.
George Sutton (Senior Research Analyst)
Super. Thank you for the details.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
You're welcome. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
This concludes the Q&A session. I would now like to turn it back to Paul for closing remarks.
Paul Jacobs (CEO)
So thanks, everybody, again for joining us and for the support. I think it's been a great year, a lot of growth, and a lot of innovation. I think this year was really one where we got our execution going well. Obviously, we've been doing a good job on executing for the wholesale consumer business, and that was evidenced in the fact that that relationship continues to expand. But I'm also super happy about the product organization bringing the two-way to market after quite a long period of time. And I think between the new leadership and other system engineers that we brought in with XCOM, being able to look at the system and so forth, that really helped. And then we've also been able to make a lot of progress on some of the other areas on our product business.
And we'll look forward to updating you on those things as those make their way into commercial service. So a lot of good opportunities there. And then we have some exciting stuff we're working on on the XCOM RAN side. And I look forward to the time when people look at Globalstar and they don't see a satellite company only. They see a company that's executing well to provide mission-critical connectivity in space, but on the ground too. So look forward to updating you more on that journey and appreciate your support as we head there. So thanks very much.