HON Q2 2025: Aerospace OE Margins Seen at 25–26% Amid Strong Orders
- Strong Order Momentum and Normalizing Aerospace Demand: Q&A participants noted that aerospace orders remain robust—with both defense and commercial segments showing strong performance—and expect a normalization in OE shipments during H2, indicating resilient demand and future revenue growth.
- Accelerated Portfolio Transformation and Strategic Clarity: Executives emphasized they've completed their comprehensive portfolio review, are actively pursuing strategic alternatives, and are building an M&A pipeline to optimize the business mix—factors that could unlock significant long‐term shareholder value.
- Increased R&D Investment Driving Organic Growth: Management highlighted an escalation in R&D spending across segments, particularly in aerospace and building automation, as a key driver for new product innovation and margin expansion, positioning the company for sustained future growth.
- Margin Pressure in Aerospace: The call repeatedly noted that aerospace, particularly the OE segment, is facing delayed pricing adjustments on long-term contracts due to tariff-related issues and destocking, which could keep margins under pressure.
- Energy Segment Uncertainty: There is concern over the energy business as orders for energy projects and catalyst shipments have experienced delays and softness, suggesting that revenue recognition may lag and margins could be negatively impacted.
- Ambiguity in Portfolio and Strategic Alternatives: Ongoing uncertainty regarding the timing and outcome of strategic alternatives for the PSS and warehouse automation businesses, as well as the pending spin-offs, introduces risks that could delay or disrupt near-term performance.
Metric | YoY Change | Reason |
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Total Revenue | +8% ( ) | The 8% increase to $10,352 million in Q2 2025 versus $9,577 million in Q2 2024 is driven by strong underlying growth factors such as pricing adjustments, volume improvement, and acquisition contributions that had been building in previous periods ( ). |
Aerospace Segment | +11% ( ) | An 11% rise to $4,307 million reflects robust demand in both commercial and defense markets, with higher flight hours and a growing order backlog supporting performance—trends that continued from prior periods and built on earlier successes in shipment and backlog growth ( ). |
Honeywell Building Technologies | +16% ( ) | The Building Technologies segment’s 16% year-over-year increase to $1,826 million is attributable to stronger demand in building solutions and products, further bolstered by acquisition impacts, following an upward trend observed in previous quarters ( ). |
Performance Materials and Technologies | +14.5% ( ) | The 14.5% increase to $1,837 million is driven by improved organic performance and benefits from recent realignment initiatives, echoing the positive momentum seen in earlier periods as the segment focused on enhanced product mix and market positioning ( ). |
Safety and Productivity Solutions | -5% ( ) | A decline of about 5% to $2,380 million is largely due to ongoing headwinds from lower PPE demand, mix pressures, and margin impacts from receivables write-downs, challenges that had also affected prior period performance ( ). |
Corporate and All Other | -60% (from $5 million to $2 million) ( ) | The drop in this segment is primarily because the contribution from the Quantinuum business and other unallocated corporate items was lower in Q2 2025, continuing a trend of minor impact on overall revenue where such adjustments have been observed in previous periods ( ). |
Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
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Organic Sales Growth | FY 2025 | 2% to 5% (or 1% to 4% excluding Bombardier) | 4% to 5% (or 3% to 4% excluding Bombardier) | raised |
Total Sales | FY 2025 | $39.6 billion to $40.5 billion | $40.8 billion to $41.3 billion | raised |
Segment Margin | FY 2025 | down 10 to up 20 bps excluding Bombardier | decrease by 30 to 10 bps excluding Bombardier | lowered |
EPS | FY 2025 | $10.20 to $10.50 | $10.45 to $10.65 | raised |
Free Cash Flow | FY 2025 | $5.4 billion to $5.8 billion | $5.4 billion to $5.8 billion | no change |
R&D Investment | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | 4.6% of sales | no prior guidance |
Organic Sales Growth | Q3 2025 | no prior guidance | 2% to 4% | no prior guidance |
Segment Margin | Q3 2025 | no prior guidance | 22.7% to 23.1% | no prior guidance |
EPS | Q3 2025 | no prior guidance | $2.50 to $2.60 | no prior guidance |
Metric | Period | Guidance | Actual | Performance |
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Sales | Q2 2025 | $9.8B to $10.1B | 10,352 | Beat |
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Aerospace | Strong order momentum and robust organic sales were consistently noted in Q1 2025 as well as in Q4 2024 and Q3 2024 , with margin pressures driven by mix effects and acquisition integration costs, and minimal mention of tariffs in earlier periods. | Q2 2025 emphasized robust order momentum coupled with clear discussion of margin pressures from tariff‐related cost inflation and pricing challenges, along with increased R&D support. | Recurring strength but with a sharper focus on tariff-related pricing challenges and integration drag in Q2 2025. |
Portfolio Transformation | Discussions in Q1 2025 and Q3/Q4 2024 detailed plans for spinning off businesses, separations into stand-alone companies, and outlined M&A integration risks and opportunities, with ongoing strategic reviews. | Q2 2025 reinforced the strategy with specifics on separation into three independent companies, updated spin‐off timelines (e.g. Solstice Advanced Materials in Q4 2025), and clearer strategic alternatives for certain segments. | Consistent strategic transformation with enhanced execution clarity in the current period. |
Increased R&D Investment | Q1 2025 mentioned an increased R&D spend (rising by 50 basis points to 4.5% of sales) driving organic growth in aerospace and building automation ; Q4 2024 discussed long-term investments in aerospace technologies for electrification and mobility. | Q2 2025 highlighted an investment of approximately $200 million incremental R&D in Aerospace alongside accelerated growth in building automation through software-led innovations. | Sustained commitment to R&D with clearer investment figures and a focused push on growth drivers in key segments. |
Tariff and Trade Uncertainty | Q1 2025 detailed the mitigation of a $500 million tariff impact through pricing adjustments and productivity measures , while Q4 2024 noted that tariff impacts were not material due to local-for-local strategies. Q3 2024 did not mention this topic. | Q2 2025 reiterated the proactive management of tariffs using pricing, sourcing, and productivity measures, and explicitly connected tariff-driven cost inflation to margin pressures in Aerospace. | An evolving emphasis with increased caution in Q2 2025 regarding tariff impacts, contrasting with previous muted or mitigating perspectives. |
Short-cycle Business and Industrial Automation | Q1 2025 reported a 2% organic decline in Industrial Automation, highlighting operational risks such as receivables write-downs and soft demand in PPE, especially in China ; Q3 2024 noted delayed recoveries and project pushouts ; Q4 2024 emphasized muted demand and cautious outlooks. | Q2 2025 noted that while short-cycle products (e.g. Building Automation) were resilient, Industrial Automation faced demand challenges; however, orders in these segments performed better than feared with improved resilience. | Persistent concerns with operational and demand challenges remain, though Q2 2025 shows slight improvements in order stability amid ongoing caution. |
Recovery in Industrial and Building Automation | Q1 2025 showed mixed signals with a decline in Industrial Automation and strong high-single-digit growth in Building Automation ; Q3 2024 reported moderate recovery in Building Automation and stabilization in Industrial Automation ; Q4 2024 highlighted regional differences affecting guidance. | Q2 2025 reported Building Automation achieving 8% organic growth with margin expansion and improved outlook, while Industrial Automation remained flat but saw an upward revision in outlook based on regional performance. | A positive recovery is evident in Building Automation with a revised, more optimistic outlook; Industrial Automation remains cautious but shows signs of stabilization. |
Energy Segment Uncertainty | Q1 2025 mentioned uncertainty with soft orders and project delays in Energy, offset by strong LNG performance ; Q3 2024 noted project pushouts linked to geopolitical and election uncertainties ; Q4 2024 did not specifically address uncertainty in this segment. | Q2 2025 emphasized uncertainty due to project delays in large energy projects and soft orders in traditional refining, leading to a slight reduction in the outlook and a more cautious stance. | Previously less consistently noted, Energy uncertainty is re-highlighted in Q2 2025 with a focus on delayed projects and softness in orders, signaling renewed caution in the segment. |
Divergent Regional Market Dynamics | Q1 2025 observed strong performance in emerging markets such as the Middle East and North America and noted weakness in China, particularly in Industrial Automation ; Q3 2024 detailed double-digit growth in India and Saudi Arabia, moderate recovery in Europe, and persistent weakness in China ; Q4 2024 mentioned emerging market tailwinds versus weak demand in Europe and China. | Q2 2025 reported a more normalized global growth picture with the U.S. as the leading region, improved performance in Europe and China, and continued strength in areas like international defense spending. | The focus has shifted from stark regional divergence to a normalization of growth globally, with traditionally weak regions (Europe and China) showing recovery while emerging markets remain robust. |
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Aerospace Margins
Q: How will commercial OE sales recover?
A: Management explained that temporary destocking is causing a slowdown, but they expect normalized OE shipments and margins around 25–26% in the near term as transition issues resolve. -
UOP Trends
Q: What drove UOP’s strong Q2 growth?
A: They attributed robust results to a major licensing deal and high catalyst sales, although energy project spend will shift later, softening H2 guidance. -
Industrial Automation
Q: Are lower margins driven by HPS issues?
A: Management confirmed that large energy projects, especially within HPS, are pressuring margins while service segments remain resilient. -
R&D Tax Assets
Q: How will deferred R&D tax assets unwind?
A: They indicated the tax asset conversion is a net positive, becoming a tailwind for 2026–2027 as details are refined. -
Building Automation Margin
Q: Is BA margin near 28% feasible?
A: Management noted that driven by volume leverage and new product acceleration, BA could reach near 28%, although cautious execution is advised. -
Tariff Contingency
Q: What is the status of the tariff hedge?
A: They stated that their contingency measures remain similar to last quarter, with aerospace tariff impacts expected to normalize over time. -
Quintinium IPO
Q: What hurdles remain for Quintinium’s IPO?
A: The challenge lies in demonstrating consistent revenue streams, with key wins like Qatar underpinning progress toward a potential IPO around 2027. -
R&D Spend Increase
Q: Why is R&D spending accelerating now?
A: Management clarified that increased R&D is a strategic move to boost organic growth and prepare Honeywell for higher-growth verticals, independent of the separation process. -
Aerospace Aftermarket
Q: What slowed aerospace aftermarket growth?
A: They explained that the slowdown from 15% to 7% is a normalization in demand, with expectations for steady full‐year performance. -
Aerospace OE Destocking
Q: Why is there OE destocking in aerospace?
A: It was primarily driven by North American OEMs reducing inventories, and shipments are expected to stabilize by Q3–Q4. -
Defense & Space Growth
Q: How is defense and space performing internationally?
A: Management highlighted double-digit growth fueled by tailwinds in key international markets and improved supply chain conditions. -
Productivity & AI
Q: How is AI helping with cost savings?
A: They emphasized that AI-driven value engineering cuts design time dramatically, enabling sustainable price increases and mitigating inflation. -
Portfolio and M&A
Q: Any major portfolio exits or deals coming?
A: The portfolio review is complete, and while no major exits are planned, an active M&A pipeline—including carve-out deals—remains a priority. -
Free Cash Flow Outlook
Q: What drives free cash flow guidance for H2?
A: Despite higher inventory in aerospace, improved collections and sales are expected to support free cash flow conversion above 90% in 2026. -
Tariff Impact Alternatives
Q: How would lower tariffs affect segment demand?
A: Lower tariffs should benefit short-cycle segments like BA, though energy project revenue may delay; strategic alternative decisions will clarify by year-end. -
Order Trends & M&A Pipeline
Q: How are order trends and M&A pipeline shaping?
A: Overall orders are strong despite minor monthly softness, and an active, robust M&A pipeline remains in play even as spin preparations continue.
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