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    HENRY SCHEIN (HSIC)

    Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Feb 25, 2025 (Before Market Open)
    Pre-Earnings Price$77.64Last close (Feb 24, 2025)
    Post-Earnings Price$80.56Open (Feb 25, 2025)
    Price Change
    $2.92(+3.76%)
    • Henry Schein expects to achieve significant cost savings of $75 million to $100 million from restructuring initiatives by the end of 2025, which will enhance profitability in future years.
    • The company's own-brand products have strong growth potential, particularly in the dental segment, which can lead to higher gross profit margins and improve overall profitability.
    • Strong performance in the dental implants business, especially in Europe, with low to mid-single-digit growth in the DACH region, indicating robust demand and potential for revenue growth in this segment.
    • HSIC is experiencing limited market growth expectations in its core dental and medical segments, with management acknowledging that achieving 2% growth in the core dental market could be challenging, likely ranging from 0% to 2%. Price appreciation is also limited, and the company's M&A activity was lower than usual in 2024, contributing to limited acquisition growth included in the overall revenue guidance.
    • HSIC fell short of its revenue guidance in the fourth quarter, with revenues coming in below expectations due to weaker-than-expected patient traffic and lower medical revenues, particularly impacted by the timing of the flu season and underestimated effects of holiday timing. This indicates potential demand headwinds and issues with forecasting accuracy.
    • Margin pressures are impacting HSIC's profitability, driven by a shift towards lower-priced items and value products, especially in dental implants and digital equipment. Additionally, increased expenses from IT investments, such as depreciation from the global e-commerce platform, and rising incentive compensation expenses are limiting earnings growth despite cost-saving initiatives.
    MetricYoY ChangeReason

    Total Revenue

    +5.8% (from $3,017M in Q4 2023 to $3,191M in Q4 2024)

    Overall revenue growth was achieved due to strong performance in certain channels and strategic acquisitions compensating for weakness in other segments. Although some segments experienced declines compared to the previous quarter, the combined effect of positive contributions in parts of the portfolio helped push total revenue upward.

    Dental Segment Revenue

    –45% (from $1,802M in Q4 2023 to $989M in Q4 2024)

    The sharp 45% drop in Dental revenue is an amplified change from the modest 1.6% decline seen in Q3 2024. This extreme shift likely reflects a mix of continued challenges—including slower recovery from the prior cyber incident, increased pressure from economic headwinds, a pivot toward lower-cost products, and possibly restructuring or divestitures—further eroding revenue in this segment.

    Medical Segment Revenue

    –6% (from $1,003M in Q4 2023 to $941M in Q4 2024)

    The 6% decline in Medical revenue contrasts with the modest gains seen in Q3 2024. This reversal appears to be driven by falling demand due to the ongoing shift toward lower-priced generics, pricing pressures in key product categories (e.g., PPE, respiratory diagnostics), and seasonal or market-driven adjustments that have now outweighed the previous period’s acquisition gains.

    Technology & Value-Added Services

    –100%+ (from $212M in Q4 2023 to –$22M in Q4 2024)

    The dramatic turn from a positive $212M to a negative $22M suggests significant restructuring challenges within the segment. The negative performance may result from integration issues and write-offs related to recent acquisitions (such as LPS), along with delays or reversals in revenue recognition from cloud-based software products that had once driven a 5.1% growth in Q3 2024.

    MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange

    Total Sales Growth

    FY 2024

    4% to 6%

    4% to 5%

    lowered

    Non-GAAP Diluted EPS

    FY 2024

    no prior guidance

    $4.74 to $4.82

    no prior guidance

    Adjusted EBITDA

    FY 2024

    no prior guidance

    low double-digit percentages

    no prior guidance

    Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate

    FY 2024

    no prior guidance

    25%

    no prior guidance

    Total Sales Growth

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    2% to 4% over 2024 levels

    no prior guidance

    Non-GAAP Diluted EPS

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    $4.80 to $4.94

    no prior guidance

    Adjusted EBITDA Growth

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    mid-single digits

    no prior guidance

    Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    25%

    no prior guidance

    Foreign Currency Exchange Rates

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    remains generally consistent with 2024 levels

    no prior guidance

    Restructuring Costs

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    no GAAP guidance provided due to estimation challenges

    no prior guidance

    MetricPeriodGuidanceActualPerformance
    Total Sales Growth
    Q4 2024
    4% to 5% year-over-year
    6.7% (3,218Vs. 3,017)
    Beat
    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Recovery from Cyber Incident

    In Q1 2024, the company discussed steady progress in restoring pre‐incident sales and recovering episodic customers. In Q3 2024, they noted steady market share regain and gradual improvement across dental and medical segments.

    In Q4 2024, the cyber incident is described as “in the rear mirror” with stable market share in U.S. dental distribution and improved progress noted, although comparisons remain challenging.

    Recurring with improved sentiment – the narrative has shifted from cautious recovery to a more confident view in Q4.

    Customer Reacquisition

    In Q1 2024, there was focus on recovering business from lost episodic customers across segments. In Q3 2024, efforts such as repositioning the sales force and leveraging e-commerce were emphasized.

    In Q4 2024, customer reacquisition is highlighted by stabilization in dental distribution market share, with plans to continue regaining customers in 2025.

    Recurring with a steady outlook – consistent emphasis on regaining lost customers, with a stabilizing sentiment in Q4.

    Restructuring Initiatives

    Q1 2024 mentioned restructuring expenses of $10 million and its impact on SG&A, reflecting early-stage cost restructuring and integration of acquired businesses. In Q3 2024, discussions emphasized achieved savings (e.g., $50 million) and goals of $75–$100 million annual savings by end-2025.

    Q4 2024 focused on incurring $37 million in restructuring expenses and expecting over $80 million in annual run-rate savings, while also mentioning reinvestments (e.g., into IT) that temper near-term margin improvements.

    Recurring with increased scale – restructuring remains central but with enhanced savings targets and additional reinvestment factors emerging in Q4.

    Dental Implants

    Q1 2024 noted low single-digit organic growth with optimism around new implant product launches and addressing untapped market segments. Q3 2024 reported mid-single-digit growth globally and strong performance in North America and Europe via product innovations.

    Q4 2024 reported solid growth in dental implants with specific highlights such as promising product conversions in the U.S. and strong regional performance (e.g., DACH region, Brazil).

    Recurring with bullish sentiment – consistent performance and growing investor confidence supported by innovative product initiatives.

    Margin Pressures

    Q1 2024 discussed pricing pressures—such as shifts to lower-priced generics and corporate brands—and rising SG&A expenses due to acquisitions, though overall gross margin improved modestly. Q3 2024 highlighted similar challenges with shifting product mix (dental consumables and PPE) impacting dollar sales but noted balancing factors from higher-priced own brands.

    Q4 2024 reiterated margin challenges driven by a mix shift toward lower-priced alternatives (including digital equipment and value implants) and rising operating expenses, while expecting future margin expansion in select segments.

    Recurring with continued challenges – margin pressures persist across periods, though the company is managing them with strategic initiatives.

    Limited Market Growth

    Q1 2024 described core dental and medical segments as relatively stable with some seasonal demand variability affecting procedures and merchandise. Q3 2024 characterized the markets as generally stable, noting shifts in dental merchandise and a mild slowdown in some product areas.

    Q4 2024 emphasized that market growth is limited (e.g., dental growth expected at 0–2% versus previous 2–4%, and medical below 4%), with seasonal factors like the flu season and holiday timing further dampening performance.

    Recurring with a more cautious tone – market growth remains limited and even more modest expectations are highlighted in Q4.

    Operational Efficiency

    Q1 2024 briefly noted a modest gross margin improvement offset by increased operating expenses, without detailed forward-looking remarks on efficiency. Q3 2024 provided insights on efficiency gains from restructuring, while also emphasizing uncertainties around achieving sustained margin expansion.

    Q4 2024 discussed notable restructuring savings (over $80 million expected annually) improving efficiency; however, mixed factors—such as technology investments and pricing pressures—reintroduce uncertainty in full operating margin expansion.

    Recurring with persistent uncertainty – operational efficiency improvements continue but are tempered by conflicting headwinds, maintaining caution.

    IT Investments

    Not mentioned in Q1 2024. Q3 2024 introduced themes of increased IT investments (e.g., the global e-commerce platform) with associated higher depreciation, though anticipated savings were expected to offset expenses.

    Q4 2024 similarly emphasizes increased IT investments with full-year depreciation costs impacting margins, reinforcing that such initiatives, while strategic, add near-term headwinds.

    New relative to Q1 and consistent from Q3 – IT investments are emerging as a strategic expense driver with near-term negative margin effects, but expected future benefits.

    Acquisition Integration

    Q1 2024 offered detailed discussion on the performance of recent acquisitions and integration challenges affecting SG&A, noting higher R&D and selling costs. Q3 2024 mentioned acquisitions favorably with less detail on integration issues.

    Q4 2024 does not specifically address acquisition performance or integration challenges, perhaps reflecting that integration issues have become less front‐and‐center in the narrative.

    Recurring but diminished – this topic was detailed in Q1 and Q3 but has largely faded from the Q4 discussion, suggesting smoother integration or reduced emphasis.

    High Interest Rates

    Q1 2024 acknowledged that high interest rates were dampening demand for high-cost dental procedures such as implants, indicating a dampening effect on expensive treatments. Q3 2024 discussed the potential upside if rates fell (e.g., a 100–200 basis point drop) to stimulate demand.

    Q4 2024 does not include any discussion on high interest rates impacting demand, suggesting that either the topic has been deprioritized or market conditions have shifted focus [–].

    Recurring in earlier periods but no longer mentioned – the high interest rate theme has effectively dropped from the Q4 narrative.

    Own-Brand Growth in Dental Segment

    Q1 2024 mentioned a movement towards corporate brands that helped offset pricing pressures and stabilize margins. Q3 2024 highlighted the growth potential of own-brand products amid a shift toward lower-priced alternatives.

    Q4 2024 continued to focus on the evolution of their corporate brand—with most consumable dental products now under their own brand—and emphasized its potential to boost gross profit margins alongside specialty products.

    Recurring with bullish sentiment – the narrative remains consistently positive regarding the growth and margin benefits of own-brand products.

    Lower-Priced Alternatives and Generics

    Q1 2024 addressed a shift toward lower-priced alternatives in both the dental (e.g., corporate brands) and medical segments (e.g., generics) that influenced pricing and revenue dynamics, with stable overall pricing. Q3 2024 similarly discussed the shift toward lower-priced alternative brands and generics, noting a nuanced impact on sales dollars while balancing profitability via own-brand products.

    Q4 2024 also discusses the impact of this shift, with a hybrid model of branded and private-label offerings helping to manage margin pressures while aiming for gross profit margin improvements, despite pressures from lower-priced digital equipment and value segments.

    Recurring with balanced impact – this theme remains constant, with the company managing revenue dynamics through a hybrid offering, albeit with ongoing margin challenges.

    1. Revenue Guidance Assumptions
      Q: Why is your revenue outlook more optimistic than peers?
      A: We expect 2% to 4% revenue growth in 2025, based on modest market growth of 0% to 2% and limited price appreciation. Despite lower M&A activity, we believe our investments and initiatives will help us outperform the broader market.

    2. Q4 Revenue Shortfall
      Q: What caused the Q4 revenue miss versus guidance?
      A: Q4 revenues were $3.191 billion, slightly below the pre-released $3.2 billion. The shortfall was due to flat patient traffic, a slower end to the quarter affected by the timing of Christmas, and an unexpectedly mild flu season impacting medical revenues.

    3. 2025 EPS Growth
      Q: Why is EPS growth matching revenue growth in 2025?
      A: While we are implementing cost savings of $75 to $100 million, increased investments in IT, such as depreciating our new global e-commerce platform, and normalizing incentive compensation will offset these savings in 2025. We expect more earnings growth in the back half of the year.

    4. Specialty Margins Outlook
      Q: Can specialty operating margins improve over time?
      A: Yes, we expect margins to grow as we address challenges in our orthodontic business and shift towards higher-margin products. Currently, specialty margins include some lower-margin businesses and expenses, but we're focused on improvement.

    5. KKR Partnership Benefits
      Q: How will the KKR agreement benefit you?
      A: KKR will be a strong strategic partner, offering expertise through KKR Capstone to help advance our strategic plan, particularly after Hart-Scott-Rodino clearance. Their focus aligns with ours on high-growth, high-margin opportunities and efficiency improvements.

    6. Market Share Dynamics
      Q: Are you gaining or losing market share?
      A: In Q4, our market share stabilized after sequential gains earlier in the year. We are confident in continuing to gain share in 2025, especially as we regain customers post-cyber incident and improve our offerings.

    7. Orthodontics Business Recovery
      Q: What's happening with your orthodontics business?
      A: We faced challenges due to a patent expiry affecting our orthodontic products, leading to losses in 2024. We are rightsizing the infrastructure and expect the business to return to profitability by the end of 2025.

    8. Tariffs Impact on Guidance
      Q: How do tariffs affect your 2025 guidance?
      A: We do not anticipate tariffs significantly impacting our bottom line in 2025. We have adjusted our supply chain to mitigate tariff effects, such as sourcing gloves from non-tariff countries like Malaysia.

    9. Product Innovation Pipeline
      Q: Any upcoming innovations from partners?
      A: We expect incremental advancements, particularly in digital technology and materials, at the upcoming IDS. Though major innovations are limited, we remain optimistic about opportunities in the digital space.

    10. Sales Compensation Normalization
      Q: Are sales incentives changing in 2025?
      A: We are normalizing management incentive compensation to pre-cyber incident levels and have made changes to our sales commission structure to drive growth and improve margins.

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