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    LegalZoom.com Inc (LZ)

    Q3 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Feb 7, 2025 (After Market Close)
    Pre-Earnings Price$8.15Last close (Nov 6, 2024)
    Post-Earnings Price$9.12Open (Nov 7, 2024)
    Price Change
    $0.97(+11.90%)
    • LegalZoom is successfully shifting its focus to higher-intent, high-value customers, which is leading to improved customer retention and lifetime value. The company's efforts in customer education, pricing adjustments, and product offerings are yielding positive early results. ,
    • The company is implementing pricing power across its product portfolio, aiming to become a value-priced provider rather than the low-cost provider. This strategy could enhance margins and profitability. ,
    • LegalZoom is leveraging its unique combination of technology and legal expertise to target the larger addressable market competing with traditional law firms, positioning itself for long-term sustainable growth.
    • Declining macro environment for business formations is impacting LegalZoom's transaction revenue and overall growth. Census EIN applications declined 9% year-over-year in Q3 , and Noel Watson stated that "the macro is very difficult to predict and project... overall, the macro thus far this year is softer than last year."
    • LegalZoom's shift from focusing on market share to quality share may result in lower customer acquisition and revenue. "We saw a decline in our market share of business formations, which was expected as we conducted important testing with the goal of narrowing our focus to high-value customers." This strategy might limit growth in a competitive market.
    • There is uncertainty around the impact of recent pricing changes on subscription revenue. LegalZoom has begun testing pricing increases on key products but admits it's too early to tell the effect. "We're still in the process of unpacking this... we just launched this about 45 days ago." This introduces risk if customers are sensitive to price changes.
    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Persistent macroeconomic headwinds affecting business formations and growth

    Q4 2023: Cautious 2024 outlook as formations dipped despite 8% census growth for 2023. Q1 2024: Softer environment, -2% YoY in Q1. Q2 2024: 6% YoY decline in Q2, continued macro softness.

    Q3 2024: 9% YoY decline in census EIN applications, but formations still above pre-pandemic levels.

    Ongoing softness

    Strategic emphasis on subscription revenue and improving retention

    Q4 2023: Subscription revenue +17% YoY, improved retention in compliance subscriptions. Q1 2024: 10% YoY subscription growth, focus on post-formation monetization. Q2 2024: Shifting away from transactions, ~60% retention, aiming for higher-value subscribers.

    Q3 2024: Reorienting transactional products into subscriptions, testing pricing to drive higher-value subscription uptake.

    Steadily reinforced

    Shift from broad market share to targeting high-value customers

    Q4 2023: Pivot from “blunt force” sales to a segmented approach using propensity models. Q2 2024: Segmentation by lifecycle (e.g., florist vs. pizza shop) to boost LTV.

    Q3 2024: Prioritizing “quality share” over broad share, new pricing to attract high-intent formations and improve retention.

    Increasing emphasis

    Q1-specific concerns (elevated business dissolutions, reduced free cash flow) no longer mentioned afterward

    Q1 2024: Dissolutions up ~40% YoY, free cash flow impacted by higher cash taxes.

    No mention in Q3 2024.

    No subsequent updates

    New product offerings (LZ Books, LZ Tax) and expansions into new legal verticals (e.g., prenuptial agreements)

    Q4 2023: Introduced LZ Books in formation flows; LZ Tax reset strategy; expanding legal service offerings. Q1 2024: Tax product integration with LZ Books, launched prenuptial agreements platform, updating estate planning. Q2 2024: LZ Tax kept separate from formations, estate planning shift.

    No mention in Q3 2024.

    No new updates in Q3

    Pricing changes introduced in Q3 with uncertain impact on subscription revenue

    No mention prior to Q3.

    Q3 2024: Launched new compliance pricing ~45 days ago; monitoring revenue and churn impact, aiming for net positive outcome.

    Introduced in Q3

    Organizational restructuring and associated execution risks

    Q4 2023: Sales reorganization to target high-value leads, improved ROI on sales headcount. Q2 2024: 15% global workforce reduction, $25M in annualized savings.

    No mention in Q3 2024.

    No further updates

    BOIR compliance services introduced in Q1, with uncertain rollout and impact by Q4

    Q4 2023: ~90% of entities subject to FinCEN rule; slow adoption expected, potential backloaded compliance. Q1 2024: Introduced as a compliance upsell. Q2 2024: Evaluating shift to subscription model.

    Q3 2024: Integrated BOIR into annual compliance subscriptions, seeing higher attach rates and improved LTV.

    Continuing rollout

    Partnership exits expected to lower market share in early 2024

    Q4 2023: Expected share dip in 1H 2024, recovery in 2H as exits are lapped. Q1 2024: Q3 2023 exit still a headwind. Q2 2024: Formation declines partly due to partner roll-off.

    No mention in Q3 2024.

    Phasing out

    Opportunity to compete against traditional law firms by leveraging technology and legal expertise

    Q1 2024: Leveraging attorney network, launching prenuptial agreements, expanding to more legal matters. Q2 2024: AI-driven solutions plus attorney expertise to reduce cost vs. law firms.

    Q3 2024: Emphasizing generative AI + human attorneys to deliver cost-effective legal services vs. traditional firms.

    Consistent expansions

    1. Pricing Strategy Impact
      Q: How will pricing changes affect subscription revenue?
      A: LegalZoom recently implemented pricing changes across their products, including compliance products ( ). They believe these changes, launched about 45 days ago, will be a net positive to revenue and EBITDA ( ). They are focused on matching pricing to the value they offer and are assessing the impact on their overall subscription revenue ( ).

    2. Shift to Quality Share
      Q: How does focusing on quality over market share affect growth?
      A: LegalZoom is shifting from pursuing market share to focusing on quality customers who bring more value and recurring revenue ( , ). They believe targeting customers seeking higher-value services will lead to more enduring relationships and better monetization, despite a challenging business formation environment ( , ).

    3. Competitive Landscape
      Q: How do you view competition from firms like ZenBusiness?
      A: While acknowledging competitors like ZenBusiness, LegalZoom considers the majority of their competition to be small law firms and individual attorneys serving Main Street and consumers ( ). They aim to capture this larger market by offering higher value-added services at a lower cost than traditional attorneys, leveraging their technology and legal expertise ( ).

    4. Macro Environment Outlook
      Q: What is the outlook for business formations in 2025?
      A: The macro environment has been softer this year, with formations down 2% in Q1, 6% in Q2, and 9% in Q3 compared to last year ( ). Despite this, formations remain structurally higher than pre-pandemic levels. LegalZoom is taking a middle-of-the-road view on projections for 2025, citing uncertainties in the macro environment ( ).

    5. Sales and Marketing Efficiency
      Q: How are you improving customer acquisition efficiency?
      A: LegalZoom is optimizing marketing spend by retesting campaign incrementality and exploring new channels like radio, direct mail, and social media formats ( ). They are also implementing tests in sales, such as different compensation structures and upsell capabilities, to enhance effectiveness and efficiency ( ).

    6. Compliance Subscription Strength
      Q: Why are compliance subscriptions strong amid lower formations?
      A: LegalZoom is capitalizing on a large untapped market by focusing on quality customers who value compliance services ( ). They have shifted from attracting free customers to educating customers on the importance of compliance, resulting in increased uptake of higher-value formation products and compliance subscriptions at higher prices ( ).

    7. MyLZ Platform Monetization
      Q: How does MyLZ enhance post-formation monetization?
      A: The MyLZ platform enables LegalZoom to deliver services to customers and drive greater upsells and cross-sells post-formation ( ). They are leveraging lifecycle marketing to bring more customers to MyLZ, which has shown early benefits in monetization, such as with Beneficial Ownership Information Reports (BOIR) ( ).

    8. Rebuilding Consumer Channel
      Q: Will rebuilding the consumer channel increase marketing spend?
      A: LegalZoom does not anticipate significant increases in marketing spend for the consumer channel ( ). They believe their current marketing budget is sufficient and that consumer marketing efforts will also benefit the SMB side. The focus is on refreshing products to be best-in-class and recurring, and providing real expertise to consumers ( ).

    9. Customer Education Initiatives
      Q: Where has customer education been most impactful?
      A: Customer education has been most successful during the initial sign-up process, where they introduce products like compliance and registered agent services through educational content ( ). They also utilize the MyLZ platform and their sales, service, and legal expert teams to educate, upsell, and cross-sell customers, enhancing engagement and monetization ( ).