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MSCI Inc. (MSCI)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q1 2025 results were resilient: operating revenues $745.8M (+9.7% YoY), adjusted EPS $4.00 (+13.6% YoY), operating margin 50.6% and adjusted EBITDA margin 57.1% . Consensus context: revenue modest beat ($745.8M vs $744.5M*), EPS beat ($4.00 vs $3.90*), but EBITDA missed ($407.6M vs $423.6M*) (S&P Global).
- Growth was led by Index: asset-based fees +18.1% YoY on strong ETF/non‑ETF AUM; recurring Index subscriptions +9.6% YoY; consolidated retention improved to 95.3% (vs 92.8% a year ago) .
- Guidance for FY 2025 was maintained across expense, FCF, tax and capex ranges vs Q4 2024; management reiterated expense-flex levers and unchanged outlook despite macro uncertainty .
- Strategic catalysts: rising non‑U.S. equity flows and a weaker dollar benefitting ABF; momentum in custom indices and wealth; and a new Moody’s partnership to deliver private credit risk assessments, expanding PCS use-cases .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
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What Went Well
- ABF strength and ETF flows: asset-based-fee revenue +18.1% YoY; period-end ETF AUM $1.78T; Q1 saw “highest Q1 cash flows into ETF products linked to MSCI Indices since 2021” .
- Retention and sales mix: total retention 95.3% (Index 96.5%, Analytics 95.5%); net new recurring subscription sales +33% YoY with notable gains in Index and Analytics .
- Strategic advances: integration of Foxberry F9 to scale custom indices and Moody’s partnership to add private credit risk assessments on MSCI’s 2,800 funds/14,000+ companies database .
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What Went Wrong
- EBITDA shortfall vs Street: adjusted EBITDA $425.6M (margins 57.1%) below consensus $423.6M* estimate translates to a negative variance on EBITDA vs expectation (S&P Global) .
- Sustainability & Climate net new sales declined YoY; though retention improved, near-term demand remains muted in the U.S. amid regulatory complexity and product rebranding in Europe .
- Non‑recurring revenues declined consolidated (-5.3% YoY), and management noted some Q1 deals slipped to Q2 amid uncertainty, though pipeline remains “in decent shape” .
Financial Results
Consensus vs. Actual (S&P Global; asterisked values from S&P Global)
Segment Revenue (Q1 2025)
Key KPIs and Operating Metrics
Guidance Changes
Management reiterated expense flexibility levers (incentive comp, non-comp/pro fees, hiring pace) and noted expenses would land at low end of ranges if markets remain flat .
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “In the first quarter, MSCI delivered strong financial metrics, durable retention, and solid asset-based-fee revenue growth… recurring net new sales growth across Index, Analytics, and Private Assets.” — Henry A. Fernandez, CEO .
- “88% of our subscription run rates come from clients who use multiple MSCI product lines… all-weather franchise, robust cash flows and fortress balance sheet.” — CEO .
- “Subscription run rate growth from custom indexes was 15%… asset-based fee revenue grew 18%, aided by stronger flows into international exposure products.” — CFO .
- “Our guidance is unchanged… if markets remain at current levels, expenses would be at the low end of guidance ranges.” — CFO .
- “Partnership with Moody’s to develop independent credit risk assessments for private credit” leveraging EDF‑X and MSCI’s private credit dataset — CEO .
Q&A Highlights
- Selling environment: Some larger deals slipped from Q1 to Q2; pipeline “in decent shape,” high client engagement; demand for transparency, analytics, stress testing remains strong .
- Expense framework: Incentive comp, non-comp and hiring pace can each flex ~$20M annually; would bias to low end of expense ranges if markets flat .
- International allocation: Notable rotation to non‑U.S. markets (Europe, Japan, EM); supportive for ABF (ex‑U.S. exposures, FX tailwinds) and data/model demand .
- Sustainability & Climate: Retention solid; near-term U.S. demand muted; Europe managing regulatory complexity; pivot toward physical risk and granular data .
- Non‑ETF passive: End-of-period non‑ETF AUM around $3.9T; healthy new fund creation incl. climate/custom mandates; resilient basis points .
Estimates Context
- Revenue modestly beat S&P Global consensus ($745.8M vs $744.5M*) .
- EPS beat ($4.00 vs $3.90*); adjusted EPS reconciliation provided in 8‑K .
- EBITDA missed ($407.6M vs $423.6M*), with consolidated adjusted EBITDA at $425.6M but Street EBITDA basis lower (S&P Global) .
Values retrieved from S&P Global.
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Index remains the growth engine (ABF +18% YoY; custom index and non‑U.S. exposures in focus), positioning MSCI to benefit from global rotation and FX translation .
- High retention (95.3%) and broad client diversification stabilize subscription revenue; watch Sustainability & Climate recovery path as product mix shifts to granular data/reg solutions .
- FY25 guidance intact; expect margin/expense discipline via variable levers if markets weaken; quarterly ETR normalizing to 19–21% after Q1 discrete items .
- Private Assets optionality expanding (PCS +24% net new; Moody’s-EDF‑X), with new venture-backed private company indexes enhancing transparency and wealth use-cases .
- Near-term trading setup: modest top‑line/EPS beat vs consensus and unchanged guidance; investors will focus on ABF trajectory with non‑U.S. flows, subscription net new conversion in Q2, and Sustainability & Climate demand normalization .
Notes:
- All 8‑K and earnings call metrics are cited inline.
- Consensus figures marked with asterisk (*) are from S&P Global.