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MSCI Inc. (MSCI)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q1 2025 results were resilient: operating revenues $745.8M (+9.7% YoY), adjusted EPS $4.00 (+13.6% YoY), operating margin 50.6% and adjusted EBITDA margin 57.1% . Consensus context: revenue modest beat ($745.8M vs $744.5M*), EPS beat ($4.00 vs $3.90*), but EBITDA missed ($407.6M vs $423.6M*) (S&P Global).
  • Growth was led by Index: asset-based fees +18.1% YoY on strong ETF/non‑ETF AUM; recurring Index subscriptions +9.6% YoY; consolidated retention improved to 95.3% (vs 92.8% a year ago) .
  • Guidance for FY 2025 was maintained across expense, FCF, tax and capex ranges vs Q4 2024; management reiterated expense-flex levers and unchanged outlook despite macro uncertainty .
  • Strategic catalysts: rising non‑U.S. equity flows and a weaker dollar benefitting ABF; momentum in custom indices and wealth; and a new Moody’s partnership to deliver private credit risk assessments, expanding PCS use-cases .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • ABF strength and ETF flows: asset-based-fee revenue +18.1% YoY; period-end ETF AUM $1.78T; Q1 saw “highest Q1 cash flows into ETF products linked to MSCI Indices since 2021” .
    • Retention and sales mix: total retention 95.3% (Index 96.5%, Analytics 95.5%); net new recurring subscription sales +33% YoY with notable gains in Index and Analytics .
    • Strategic advances: integration of Foxberry F9 to scale custom indices and Moody’s partnership to add private credit risk assessments on MSCI’s 2,800 funds/14,000+ companies database .
  • What Went Wrong

    • EBITDA shortfall vs Street: adjusted EBITDA $425.6M (margins 57.1%) below consensus $423.6M* estimate translates to a negative variance on EBITDA vs expectation (S&P Global) .
    • Sustainability & Climate net new sales declined YoY; though retention improved, near-term demand remains muted in the U.S. amid regulatory complexity and product rebranding in Europe .
    • Non‑recurring revenues declined consolidated (-5.3% YoY), and management noted some Q1 deals slipped to Q2 amid uncertainty, though pipeline remains “in decent shape” .

Financial Results

MetricQ3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Operating Revenues ($M)$724.7 $743.5 $745.8
Operating Margin %55.4% 54.5% 50.6%
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)$450.7 $452.3 $425.6
Adjusted EBITDA Margin %62.2% 60.8% 57.1%
Diluted EPS ($)$3.57 $3.90 $3.71
Adjusted EPS ($)$3.86 $4.18 $4.00

Consensus vs. Actual (S&P Global; asterisked values from S&P Global)

MetricQ1 2025 ConsensusQ1 2025 Actual
Revenue ($M)$744.5*$745.8
Primary EPS ($)$3.90*$4.00
EBITDA ($M)$423.6*$407.6

Segment Revenue (Q1 2025)

SegmentTotal Operating Revenues ($M)YoY %
Index$421.7 12.8%
Analytics$172.2 5.0%
Sustainability & Climate$84.6 8.6%
All Other – Private Assets$67.3 4.7%

Key KPIs and Operating Metrics

KPIQ1 2025Prior Year / Notes
Retention Rate (Total)95.3% 92.8% in Q1’24
Run Rate (Total)$2,979.2M +9.3% YoY
ETF AUM (Period-End)$1,783.1B $1,724.7B at 12/31/24
ETF AUM (Period-Average)$1,793.7B $1,755.4B in Q4’24 avg
Period-End Fee (bps)2.43 2.44 in Dec’24
Free Cash Flow ($M)$268.9 $275.9 in Q1’24
Net Cash from Ops ($M)$301.7 $300.1 in Q1’24
Capex ($M)$32.9 $24.2 in Q1’24
Share Repurchases$275.4M; 493,322 shares thru 4/21
Dividend$1.80 declared; $139.7M paid in Q1 $1.80 declared Q1’25

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious Guidance (Q4 2024)Current Guidance (Q1 2025)Change
Operating ExpenseFY 2025$1,405–$1,445M $1,405–$1,445M Maintained
Adjusted EBITDA ExpenseFY 2025$1,220–$1,250M $1,220–$1,250M Maintained
Interest ExpenseFY 2025$182–$186M $182–$186M Maintained
D&AFY 2025$185–$195M $185–$195M Maintained
Effective Tax RateFY 202517.5%–20.0% 17.5%–20.0% Maintained
Capital ExpendituresFY 2025$115–$125M $115–$125M Maintained
Net Cash from OpsFY 2025$1,525–$1,575M $1,525–$1,575M Maintained
Free Cash FlowFY 2025$1,400–$1,460M $1,400–$1,460M Maintained

Management reiterated expense flexibility levers (incentive comp, non-comp/pro fees, hiring pace) and noted expenses would land at low end of ranges if markets remain flat .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q3 2024, Q4 2024)Current Period (Q1 2025)Trend
International flows & ABFRecord AUM-linked products; strong ESG/factor ETF inflows Shift toward Europe/Japan/EM; tariffs/weaker USD tailwinds for ABF Improving
Custom indices & WealthCustom index growth mid-teens; Wealth run-rate +12% Q4; direct indexing ~ $130B AUM Further momentum; Foxberry F9 integration; Wealth solutions expanding across regions Positive
Analytics & AIQ4: front-office analytics, fixed income wins; AI Insights launched Analytics run rate +7%; stress-testing/factor models demand; >60 hedge funds on new factor models Solid, selective
Sustainability & ClimateCyclical headwinds; evolving to underlying data and regulatory solutions Retention 94.5%; net new sales softer; pivot to physical risk/data granularity Stabilizing mixed
Private Assets / PCSPCS run-rate +15% Q4; new PCS datasets PCS net new +24%; Moody’s partnership for private credit risk assessments Positive setup
Expense & TaxFY25 tax 17.5–20%; expense flex levers Q1 ETR 12.8% discrete; 19–21% per quarter rest of 2025; expense levers reiterated As guided

Management Commentary

  • “In the first quarter, MSCI delivered strong financial metrics, durable retention, and solid asset-based-fee revenue growth… recurring net new sales growth across Index, Analytics, and Private Assets.” — Henry A. Fernandez, CEO .
  • “88% of our subscription run rates come from clients who use multiple MSCI product lines… all-weather franchise, robust cash flows and fortress balance sheet.” — CEO .
  • “Subscription run rate growth from custom indexes was 15%… asset-based fee revenue grew 18%, aided by stronger flows into international exposure products.” — CFO .
  • “Our guidance is unchanged… if markets remain at current levels, expenses would be at the low end of guidance ranges.” — CFO .
  • “Partnership with Moody’s to develop independent credit risk assessments for private credit” leveraging EDF‑X and MSCI’s private credit dataset — CEO .

Q&A Highlights

  • Selling environment: Some larger deals slipped from Q1 to Q2; pipeline “in decent shape,” high client engagement; demand for transparency, analytics, stress testing remains strong .
  • Expense framework: Incentive comp, non-comp and hiring pace can each flex ~$20M annually; would bias to low end of expense ranges if markets flat .
  • International allocation: Notable rotation to non‑U.S. markets (Europe, Japan, EM); supportive for ABF (ex‑U.S. exposures, FX tailwinds) and data/model demand .
  • Sustainability & Climate: Retention solid; near-term U.S. demand muted; Europe managing regulatory complexity; pivot toward physical risk and granular data .
  • Non‑ETF passive: End-of-period non‑ETF AUM around $3.9T; healthy new fund creation incl. climate/custom mandates; resilient basis points .

Estimates Context

  • Revenue modestly beat S&P Global consensus ($745.8M vs $744.5M*) .
  • EPS beat ($4.00 vs $3.90*); adjusted EPS reconciliation provided in 8‑K .
  • EBITDA missed ($407.6M vs $423.6M*), with consolidated adjusted EBITDA at $425.6M but Street EBITDA basis lower (S&P Global) .
    Values retrieved from S&P Global.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Index remains the growth engine (ABF +18% YoY; custom index and non‑U.S. exposures in focus), positioning MSCI to benefit from global rotation and FX translation .
  • High retention (95.3%) and broad client diversification stabilize subscription revenue; watch Sustainability & Climate recovery path as product mix shifts to granular data/reg solutions .
  • FY25 guidance intact; expect margin/expense discipline via variable levers if markets weaken; quarterly ETR normalizing to 19–21% after Q1 discrete items .
  • Private Assets optionality expanding (PCS +24% net new; Moody’s-EDF‑X), with new venture-backed private company indexes enhancing transparency and wealth use-cases .
  • Near-term trading setup: modest top‑line/EPS beat vs consensus and unchanged guidance; investors will focus on ABF trajectory with non‑U.S. flows, subscription net new conversion in Q2, and Sustainability & Climate demand normalization .

Notes:

  • All 8‑K and earnings call metrics are cited inline.
  • Consensus figures marked with asterisk (*) are from S&P Global.