MSCI Inc. is a leading provider of critical decision support tools and solutions for the global investment community, helping investors address challenges in a transforming investment landscape . The company operates through four reportable segments: Index, Analytics, ESG and Climate, and All Other – Private Assets, which includes Real Assets and Private Capital Solutions . MSCI's product lines include indexes, portfolio construction and risk management tools, ESG and climate solutions, and private asset data and analysis .
- Index - Provides a comprehensive range of indexes that serve as benchmarks for global investment portfolios and are used for asset-based fees, primarily calculated based on assets under management linked to MSCI indexes .
- Analytics - Offers portfolio construction and risk management tools that help investors make informed decisions by analyzing and managing investment risks .
- ESG and Climate - Delivers ESG and climate solutions that enable investors to integrate environmental, social, and governance factors into their investment processes .
- All Other – Private Assets - Includes Real Assets and Private Capital Solutions, providing data and analysis for private asset investments .
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What went well
- MSCI is expanding its leadership into private assets, aiming to become the global leader in private market indices with the launch of MSCI Private Capital Indexes. The company leverages access to $15 trillion of high-quality private assets data to offer comprehensive tools and benchmarks .
- The company is experiencing strong growth in its Analytics business, delivering double-digit organic growth. Notably, Analytics achieved its best-ever Q2 for new recurring subscription sales at over $21 million and a retention rate of close to 96%, reflecting enhanced products and strong client engagement .
- MSCI is leveraging artificial intelligence to drive both revenue growth and cost efficiencies. With AI integrated into new products like MSCI AI Portfolio Insights, the company is improving data collection and production processes, positioning itself for future margin expansion and enhanced product offerings .
What went wrong
- MSCI acknowledges challenges and pressures in the sales environment, leading to a cautious outlook and potential unpredictability in revenues.
- There is a slowdown in Index subscription growth rate due to a tougher environment and softer recurring net new sales over recent quarters.
- Despite investments in private asset benchmarks, MSCI has not yet quantified the market size or timing of revenue opportunities in this area, indicating uncertainty in monetization and growth prospects.
Q&A Summary
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Sales Growth and Outlook
Q: What's driving strong sales, and what's the outlook?
A: Sales were solid in Q2, but we haven't seen an inflection yet. We expect lumpiness to continue due to client pressures and longer sales cycles. Q3 can be seasonally softer, but strong client engagement and sustained equity market momentum should eventually lead to increased sales. We're encouraged but remain cautious. -
Asset Manager Challenges
Q: Can you sustain double-digit growth amid asset manager challenges?
A: We don't see our growth rate slowing down despite challenges in traditional active management, which has been over 50% of our subscription revenues. We're increasing penetration in rules-based systematic index investing and very active concentrated management, including private assets. We expect significant growth in these areas, balancing out any cyclical issues in traditional segments. -
Moody's Partnership Impact
Q: What's the impact of the Moody's partnership?
A: The partnership resulted in a significant contribution to new recurring sales in Q2. Moody's can leverage our ESG leadership, while we benefit from their extensive private company database, enhancing our data in areas like ESG and Climate. We see a lot of upside from this collaboration. -
Private Assets Indices
Q: How do you view the opportunity in private asset benchmarks?
A: We're excited about launching 130 private capital indices, building on $11 trillion of high-quality data. Technical challenges include data access, but with our expertise in index construction and global distribution, we're confident we'll lead in private assets. This positions us to provide benchmarks, performance attribution, risk models, and more to LPs and GPs. , -
Index Subscription Growth
Q: What's driving Index subscription growth amid slowdown?
A: While we've seen a slowdown from softer recurring net new sales, we're witnessing resilience and momentum. Custom and special packages grew by 17%, reflecting a move towards rules-based systematic and custom investing. We're well-positioned to benefit from trends like direct indexing, which is still in early stages but shows significant potential. -
Margin Expansion and Investment
Q: How are you thinking about margins and reinvestment with higher AUM?
A: We're not targeting specific margin expansion but focus on balancing long-term investment and profitability. With AUM levels higher than expected, if they continue, we'll likely be at the high end of our expense guidance. We'd use higher growth to invest in key areas like custom indices, climate, and private assets. -
ESG and Climate Dynamics
Q: Has the ESG and Climate environment improved?
A: We're seeing a continuation of recent dynamics, with no major changes. Regional growth rates are 9% in the Americas, 17% in EMEA, and 20% in APAC. Opportunities exist in areas like regulations, but industry pressures impact ESG and Climate more significantly. We expect these dynamics to persist short term but are encouraged by long-term prospects. -
Analytics Segment Growth
Q: What factors are driving strong Analytics growth?
A: Strong client engagement and focus on investment risk, credit risk, and liquidity risk are driving performance. Enhancements like our insights offering, which integrates AI capabilities, are gaining traction. We see opportunities but expect some lumpiness due to broader industry pressures. -
Use of AI for Growth and Efficiency
Q: How is AI helping drive revenues and efficiencies?
A: We're using AI across the business, notably in data processes like calculations, production, and extraction in areas like ESG and Climate. AI is leading to cost efficiencies and quality improvements. In new product development, AI enables offerings like geospatial data analysis and enhances our future risk assessments. -
Free Cash Flow Guidance
Q: Will you raise full-year free cash flow guidance?
A: While cash flow performance has been strong, benefiting from high collections and lower cash tax payments, many factors can impact free cash flow. We're only halfway through the year, and fluctuations in billing, collections, and expenses mean we're cautious about adjusting guidance at this point. -
Pricing Strategy
Q: What's the role of pricing in new sales, any client changes?
A: Contribution from price increases was slightly smaller than last year, as we've moderated price hikes due to the economic environment. We're focused on aligning price increases with the value we deliver, factoring in client health and maintaining strong long-term relationships. -
Analytics Margin Expansion
Q: What's driving Analytics margin expansion?
A: Factors include capitalizing software, which increases EBITDA margin, broader expense efficiencies, and being strategic in our investments within Analytics. While we've invested less in some areas to focus on strategic parts, we continue to see compelling opportunities that are both attractive and strategic. -
Second Half Sales Outlook
Q: Can you match or exceed last year's second-half sales?
A: Q3 is typically a softer quarter, with Q4 being stronger. Sales and cancellations can be lumpy, and while we face challenging dynamics, we see strong client engagement and opportunities. We're cautious but hopeful, given sustained equity market momentum.
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Given the technical challenges and data access issues in creating private capital indices, how does MSCI plan to ensure the accuracy and reliability of these indices, and what are the key risks associated with relying on data directly from general partners?
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With the contribution of price increases to new sales being slightly smaller than last year and with moderated price increases due to the economic environment, how do you plan to sustain revenue growth, especially considering potential pressures on client spending?
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Despite the recent strong performance in the Analytics segment, what factors might cause future subscription growth to be lumpy, and how sustainable is double-digit organic growth in this segment given the challenging dynamics you've mentioned?
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As you focus on expanding your footprint among mature client segments like asset managers while also targeting newer segments such as wealth managers and corporates, how do you plan to navigate the pressures and headwinds affecting your traditional client base?
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With higher AUM levels potentially leading to expenses at the high end of your guidance ranges, how do you balance the need for investment in key growth areas with maintaining attractive profitability and free cash flow conversion?
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: Second half of 2024 (Q3 and Q4 2024)
- Guidance:
- Depreciation and Amortization Expense and Operating Expenses: Increased by $5 million, partly due to the impact of acquired intangible amortization expense from the Foxberry acquisition.
- ETF AUM Levels: Assumes a slight increase from June 30 levels through the end of the year. Higher AUM levels could lead to higher expense guidance ranges.
- Quarterly Effective Tax Rate: Expected to be in the range of 20% to 22% for both Q3 and Q4, before any additional discrete items .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: Second half of 2024 (Q3 and Q4 2024)
- Guidance:
- Depreciation and Amortization Expense: Increased by $5 million, reflecting the impact of acquired intangible amortization expense from the Foxberry acquisition.
- Operating Expenses: Increased by $5 million, partly due to the Foxberry acquisition.
- ETF AUM Levels: Assumes a slight increase from June 30 levels through the end of the year. Higher AUM levels could lead to higher expense guidance ranges.
- Quarterly Effective Tax Rate: Expected to be in the range of 20% to 22% for both Q3 and Q4, before any additional discrete items .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- 2024 Guidance Across All Categories: Assumes AUM will decline slightly in Q2 and rebound gradually in the second half of the year.
- Effective Tax Rate: Expected to be between 21% to 22% each quarter before any discrete items .
Q4 2023 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2023
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- AUM Levels: Assumes AUM levels remain relatively flat to year-end levels through the first half of 2024, with a modest upturn in the second half.
- Expenses: Reflect ongoing investments and the impact of acquisitions of Burgiss, Trove, and Fabric, including slightly higher hardware purchases.
- Interest Expense: Reflects refinancing of credit facilities, assuming the existing balance of approximately $340 million remains outstanding for the year.
- Tax Rate: Reflects the impact of the OECD global minimum tax, statutory rate increases, and a slightly smaller projected impact from windfall benefits.
- Free Cash Flow: Reflects the expectation of slightly higher cash taxes .
Competitors mentioned in the company's latest 10K filing.
- S&P Dow Jones Indices LLC - A joint venture of S&P Global Inc. and CME Group Inc. Competes in the index category .
- FTSE Russell - A subsidiary of the London Stock Exchange Group plc, competes in the index category .
- Solactive AG - Competes in the index category .
- Nasdaq Inc - Competes in the index category .
- Bloomberg Finance L.P. - Competes in the index category and also in ESG and Climate offerings .
- Axioma (part of SimCorp) - Competes in analytics offerings .
- BlackRock Solutions - Competes in analytics offerings .
- FactSet Research Systems Inc. - Competes in analytics offerings .
- Sustainalytics Holding B.V. - A part of Morningstar, Inc., competes in ESG and Climate offerings .
- Institutional Shareholder Services Inc. - Majority owned by Deutsche Börse AG, competes in ESG and Climate offerings .
- Trucost - An S&P Global Inc. business, competes in ESG and Climate offerings .
- Refinitiv - A London Stock Exchange Group business, competes in ESG and Climate offerings .
- Moody’s Corporation - Competes in ESG and Climate offerings .
Recent developments and announcements about MSCI.
Corporate Leadership
Board Change
June Yang has been appointed as an independent director on the MSCI Inc. Board of Directors, effective December 17, 2024. This appointment brings the total number of directors on the board to thirteen. Ms. Yang is recognized for her expertise in cloud computing and artificial intelligence, having previously served as Vice President at Google Cloud Inc. .
Leadership Change
Who is leaving: No departures were mentioned in the documents.
Who is stepping up: June Yang has been appointed as an independent director on the Board of MSCI Inc., effective December 17, 2024. She brings extensive experience in cloud computing and artificial intelligence from her previous role as Vice President at Google Cloud Inc. .
Why: Her appointment is aimed at leveraging her expertise to advance MSCI's strategic vision and enhance their tools for clients in the global investment community .
Financial Reporting
Auditor Changes
MSCI Inc. Auditor Change
On March 11, 2014, MSCI Inc. approved the engagement of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP (PwC) as its new independent registered public accounting firm for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2014. This decision followed a competitive bidding process involving several major accounting firms, including the former auditor, Deloitte & Touche LLP. Consequently, Deloitte was dismissed as MSCI's auditor. The change is subject to ratification by MSCI's shareholders at the annual meeting on April 30, 2014 .