Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
- Excluding the $47 million investment in Los Azules, McEwen Mining would have reported a positive quarterly earnings, demonstrating that its core mining operations are profitable.
- The Los Azules copper project is a Tier 1 asset with considerable upside potential. Comparable projects have been valued significantly higher, and McEwen Mining's 46% interest in Los Azules could be worth approximately $8.47 per share, suggesting substantial hidden value in the company's stock.
- With gold prices over $3,000 an ounce, the company is increasing production to capitalize on high prices, which could generate an additional $10 million in cash flow by increasing production by 10% at their operations.
- Potential significant dilution and reduced ownership stake in the Los Azules project due to the large capital requirement of $2.5 billion, which may lead to McEwen Mining's stake decreasing to as low as 10% in a worst-case scenario.
- Significant permitting delays and uncertainties in Mexico and at the Timberline properties could negatively impact McEwen Mining's production growth plans, with permitting times for Timberline expected to be 3 to 5 years.
- Short mine life at the San Jose mine with only 18 months of reserves and 2 to 3 years of resources, potentially impacting future production and cash flows if not extended.
Metric | YoY Change | Reason |
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Total Revenue | Down 43% (from $58.68M in Q4 2023 to $33.5M in Q4 2024) | Total Revenue decreased dramatically due to a pronounced drop across all segments—with the USA segment nearly halving, compounded by significant declines in Mexico and moderate decreases in Canada—reflecting weakened sales and market challenges compared to the strong performance in Q4 2023. |
USA Revenue | Down 55% (from $37.88M to $16.84M) | The USA segment experienced a sharp decline of 55% YoY, indicating severe market weakness or operational challenges in that region relative to the previous period, heavily affecting overall revenue performance. |
Canada Revenue | Down 16% (from $19.44M to $16.26M) | The Canada segment saw a moderate drop in revenue by 16%, which may be attributed to reduced production or pricing adjustments compared to Q4 2023, reflecting a less severe impact than in the USA. |
Mexico Revenue | Down 78% (from $1.35M to $0.3M) | Mexico’s revenue plunged by 78% YoY, suggesting either a strategic pullback or significant production issues, likely reflecting the challenges in ramping up sales in that region as compared to the previous period. |
Production Costs | Down 32% (from $39.187M to $26.455M) | Production costs fell by 32% YoY, indicating that cost reduction efforts or lower production volumes helped cut expenses, although this reduction may also be a consequence of the drop in overall operational activity reflected in revenue declines. |
Depreciation and Depletion | Up 14% (from $5.851M to $6.705M) | Depreciation and depletion increased by 14% YoY, suggesting elevated asset utilization or revised depreciation methods amid production efforts, despite an overall revenue contraction from the prior period. |
Exploration Expenses | Down 37% (from $3.741M to $2.362M) | Exploration expenses were reduced by 37% YoY, likely as part of cost-containment measures or a strategic shift away from high-expense exploration activities, contrasting with the higher investment seen in Q4 2023. |
Loss Before Income and Mining Taxes | Shift from a positive $177.909M to a loss of $7.161M | Loss before income and mining taxes reversed dramatically from a large positive figure in Q4 2023 to a loss in Q4 2024, driven by the remarkable decline in revenue that was not offset by the reduction in costs, along with persistent high fixed expenses. This indicates an operational reversal that may have significant forward-looking implications for liquidity and profitability. |
Cash and Cash Equivalents | Down from $23.02M to $0.0175M (nearly 100% drop) | The liquidity position deteriorated sharply with cash nearly depleted due to very low cash balances in Q4 2024, likely as a result of diminished revenue inflows and potentially high outflows or financing challenges compared to the previous period. |
Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
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Los Azules Feasibility Study | FY 2025 | Feasibility study and environmental permit expected to be completed in the first half of FY 2025 | Expected to be completed by the end of Q2 2025 | no change |
Gold Production at Fox Complex | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | Expected to double production to 60,000 ounces by 2027 with potential for a four- to fivefold increase to 130,000–150,000 ounces (could increase consolidated production to 225,000–250,000 ounces per annum) | no prior guidance |
All-In Sustaining Costs (AISC) | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | Projected AISC for 2025 is $1,700–$1,900 per GEO | no prior guidance |
Exploration Spending | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | Approximately $4 million in exploration work planned for the Timberline properties in 2025 | no prior guidance |
Permitting Timeline for Timberline Properties | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | Permitting for patented claims could be completed in 1–2 years and for BLM land is expected to take 3–5 years | no prior guidance |
Gold Bar Mine Life | FY 2025 | no prior guidance | Current assets at Gold Bar are expected to sustain mining operations until 2030 | no prior guidance |
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Los Azules Copper Project | Q1–Q3 discussions consistently detailed valuation, feasibility study progress, dilution risk and IPO considerations in Q1, in Q2, and in Q3. | Q4 continues with detailed focus on Los Azules: a refined valuation based on the latest financing, feasibility study nearly 90% complete with capitalized expenditures, updated risk management around dilution, and clear IPO timing expectations. | Recurring topic with refined progress and increased positive sentiment, as technical work and financing structure have improved over time. |
Operational Challenges and Production Efficiency | Across Q1–Q3, discussions highlighted production inconsistencies at Fox Complex and other sites, challenges such as lower grade production, ground condition issues, and concerns about short mine life in Q1, in Q2, and in Q3. | In Q4, there is an emphasis on production efficiency improvements at Fox Complex, with planned output increases and further infrastructure work, even though some operational challenges (e.g. permitting delays and cost factors) remain visible. | Recurring topic with gradual improvements in efficiency yet persistent challenges, signaling incremental progress but ongoing operational risks. |
Regulatory and Permitting Challenges | Q1 discussions addressed permitting for the Phoenix project and Timberline acquisition. Q2 provided details on delays in Mexico and constraints around Timberline and overall project permitting. In Q3, the focus shifted mainly to permitting uncertainties for Timberline and Los Azules. | Q4 broadens the scope by including Mexico’s geopolitical challenges alongside continued uncertainties for Phoenix and Timberline, emphasizing unpredictable timelines and challenges with new regulatory frameworks. | Recurring topic with an expanding scope—while regulatory challenges persist, Q4 highlights a broader set of issues (including geopolitical concerns) that continue to affect project timelines and strategies. |
Capital Expenditure and Financial Risks | Q1 noted high feasibility study costs and potential shareholder dilution concerns when discussing Los Azules, supported by drilling expenditures and cash reserves details. Q2 stressed the substantial technical expenditure required and improved liquidity. Q3 reinforced extensive capex and preliminary dilution risks related to expenses and an IPO process. | Q4 reiterates the enormous capital requirement (approximately $2.5B for Los Azules), along with continued high feasibility study costs. The company’s strategy of a balanced 40% equity and 60% debt mix is emphasized to mitigate dilution risk. | Recurring topic with consistent financial risk concerns; while strategic financing plans are in place, the high capex remains a central risk impacting future shareholder value. |
Strategic Acquisitions and Growth Initiatives | Q1 introduced the Timberline Resources acquisition bid and the possibility of transformational deals. Q2 highlighted Timberline in the acquisition pipeline alongside growth initiatives at Stock and Gold Bar. Q3 discussed the completed acquisition of Timberline, additional investments (such as in Inventus Mining) and further expansion of asset portfolios. | Q4 maintains a strong growth narrative with continued integration of the Timberline assets, advancing the Los Azules project, expansion at Fox Complex, and exploration of monetizing the royalty portfolio. | Recurring topic with continuous expansion and integration, showing a robust, long‐term growth strategy that remains central to the company’s future. |
Tax Incentives Impact | Q1 mentioned potential benefits from Argentina’s RIGI law, expecting tax reductions (income tax and export duty cuts) to improve project economics. Q2 provided detailed incentive measures (e.g., reduced income tax, VAT recovery, export duty relief). Q3 did not mention this topic. | Q4 revisits tax incentives by outlining the application process for benefits under Argentina’s RIGI law, although with uncertain timelines due to regulatory newness. | Recurring topic with intermittent attention; although omitted in Q3, the discussion reappears in Q4, reflecting its ongoing importance to improving the economics of key projects in Argentina. |
US Pro‑Mining Policy Opportunities | Not mentioned in Q1 and Q2; Q3 introduced this topic by highlighting positive remarks on the incoming administration’s pro‑mining stance (e.g., President‑elect Trump’s support for resource development). | Q4 does not mention US pro‑mining policy opportunities. | New topic in Q3 that did not persist into Q4, indicating that while it generated temporary optimism, it was not a lasting focus in subsequent discussions. |
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Los Azules Impact on Earnings
Q: Would MUX's earnings be positive without Los Azules investments?
A: Yes, without the $47 million charge from Los Azules, MUX would have reported a slight positive earnings of around $3–4 million instead of a loss of $43 million. -
Rio Tinto's Participation in McEwen Copper
Q: How will MUX prevent Rio Tinto from squeezing them out of Los Azules?
A: MUX holds ~83% of McEwen Copper, with Rio Tinto's Nuton owning just over 17%. Shareholder agreements are in place, and it's not possible for Rio Tinto to squeeze MUX out. -
All-In Sustaining Costs (AISC) Outlook
Q: What's the expected AISC for 2025 gold equivalent ounces (GEO)?
A: AISC at both Fox and Gold Bar operations are projected to be $1,700 to $1,900 per GEO sold. Costs are expected to decrease over time with increased production and operational improvements. -
Los Azules IPO and Valuation
Q: What is the plan for Los Azules IPO, and how will it affect McEwen Mining's ownership?
A: Los Azules aims to complete a feasibility study and possibly an IPO in Q3. McEwen Mining currently holds 46% of Los Azules. Future funding will be through a mix of 40% equity and 60% debt, minimizing dilution. -
Stock Mine Progress
Q: What is the update on progress at the Stock mine?
A: Development of the portal is complete, and ramp driving will begin within 10 days. Production is expected to start late in Q3, accessing the fourth level. -
Grey Fox Development
Q: What are the plans for the Grey Fox project?
A: A team will start in early April to begin permitting and access the Gibson ramp. Permitting and development are expected to take 2–3 years. -
Mexico Operations
Q: Any updates on advancing the Mexico project?
A: MUX awaits permits and is cautious due to security concerns. They are ready to proceed quickly once conditions improve, with equipment already in place. -
Dividend from San José JV
Q: Why does the JV with Hochschild have $200 million in cash, and what's the expected dividend?
A: The JV's cash balance is around $25–$40 million, not $200 million. MUX expects over $2 million from the upcoming dividend. -
Benefit from High Gold Prices
Q: Will high gold prices lead to increased production?
A: Yes, MUX aims to increase production at Gold Bar and Timmins by 10%, potentially generating an additional $10 million in cash. -
Earnings Call Notice
Q: Can future earnings calls be announced earlier?
A: Notice was short due to last-minute changes; MUX aims to provide earlier notice in the future.
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