Business Description
Nordson Corporation is an innovative precision technology company that engineers, manufactures, and markets differentiated products and systems used for precision dispensing, applying, and controlling adhesives, coatings, polymers, sealants, biomaterials, and other fluids . They also offer solutions for testing and inspecting quality, treating and curing surfaces, and various medical products such as catheters, cannulas, medical balloons, and medical tubing . The company operates in three primary segments: Industrial Precision Solutions, Medical and Fluid Solutions, and Advanced Technology Solutions .
- Industrial Precision Solutions - Delivers proprietary dispensing and processing technology to diverse end markets, including industrial, agricultural, consumer durables, and non-durables, with best-in-class profitability.
- Medical and Fluid Solutions - Provides fluid management solutions for medical and high-tech industrial markets, significantly expanding their addressable market through strategic acquisitions.
- Advanced Technology Solutions - Serves electronics end markets with products that integrate proprietary technologies for surface treatment, precise material dispensing, and test and inspection applications.
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Q4 2024 Summary
What went well
- Nordson's Advanced Technology Solutions segment achieved a best-in-class EBITDA margin of 27% even at the bottom of the electronics cycle, demonstrating strong operational performance and positioning the company for growth when the market recovers.
- The company's recurring revenue has expanded to approximately 57%, providing stability and predictability to revenues, with a significant portion being 'book and ship', supporting ongoing performance regardless of backlog fluctuations.
- Strategic investments, including a new manufacturing and distribution location in India to support customers' 'China plus one' strategies, and significant R&D investments of 14% to 15% of revenues in the ATS segment, are expected to drive future growth and capitalize on emerging opportunities.
What went wrong
- Nordson's Polymer Processing business, a significant growth contributor in recent years, is expected to decline due to reduced investments in recycling in Europe and virgin polymer production in Asia, particularly China.
- The Medical and Fluid Solutions segment is experiencing weakness in the Interventional Solutions product line, which accounts for approximately 47% of the segment's sales, due to customers being more cautious with inventory purchases. The company anticipates growth in this segment to come primarily from the Atrion acquisition rather than organic growth.
- A decreasing backlog, especially in large system businesses like polymer processing and industrial coatings, may indicate a slowdown in future sales. Excluding the Atrion acquisition, the backlog stands at $550 million.
Q&A Summary
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Conservative Outlook and Guidance
Q: How are you thinking about growth and guidance for the year?
A: We are taking a conservative approach due to an uncertain macro environment, expecting flat organic growth for the year with sales following typical seasonality. If end markets recover more strongly, particularly in semiconductor, electronics, and general industrial sectors, we could reach the higher end of our guidance. As Q1 and Q2 progress, we'll have a clearer view of the second half. -
EPS Growth Amid Flat Sales
Q: With flat organic growth expected, how will EPS increase?
A: Despite anticipating flat organic sales, we expect EPS to grow through cost actions and efficiency improvements. We've taken restructuring actions to improve our cost base and will benefit from deleveraging and a lower tax rate throughout the year. -
Atrion Acquisition Performance
Q: How is the Atrion acquisition impacting your business?
A: The Atrion acquisition is performing well, slightly ahead of early expectations. Atrion added about $35 million to our backlog, bringing it to approximately $550 million excluding the acquisition. Atrion's EBITDA margins are in the upper 20% range, and we're confident in achieving Nordson-like margins over the next two years. -
Advanced Technology Solutions (ATS) Outlook
Q: Can you discuss the performance and outlook for ATS?
A: ATS delivered 4% organic growth in Q4, and order patterns support ongoing growth. The team repositioned the business during the downturn, achieving 27% EBITDA margins even at the start of the cycle. We've opened a new manufacturing location in India to meet customers' China plus one strategy and are investing in new products. -
Backlog Normalization
Q: Is backlog normalization largely complete, and which businesses were impacted?
A: Backlog normalization is largely done. Atrion added about $35 million to the backlog, bringing it to around $550 million excluding the acquisition. The reduction mainly affected our system businesses, including plastic processing, industrial coatings, and parts of our adhesive business. -
Interventional Business Destocking
Q: What is the status of destocking in the interventional business?
A: We're midway through addressing supply chain changes in our interventional business. We expect normalization after another quarter or two. We're investing in new growth areas to support future demand. -
Polymer Processing Challenges
Q: What factors are affecting the polymer processing segment?
A: The segment faces tough comparables after two record years. There's reduced investment in recycling in Europe and in virgin polymer production in Asia, especially China. -
Efficiency Gains and NBS Next
Q: How are efficiency gains contributing to performance?
A: Deploying NBS Next has improved efficiency, enabling us to make higher volume products more efficiently and significantly improve on-time delivery. In ATS, NBS Next helped reposition the business and invest in new products, contributing to strong margins. -
Customer Hesitancy and Uncertainties
Q: What's causing customer hesitancy and macro uncertainties?
A: Factors like changes in EV battery investments, solar, and geopolitical issues contribute to an uncertain macro environment. Customers are hesitant, leading to cautious investment decisions. -
Chinese New Year Impact on Q1 Sales
Q: How will the Chinese New Year affect Q1 sales?
A: The Chinese New Year will impact our first quarter, causing a sales impact typically in the $10 to $20 million range. This shift means Q1 will be slightly weaker, with the effect usually in Q2.
Key Metrics
Revenue by Segment - in Millions of USD | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 | Q4 2024 | FY 2024 |
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Industrial Precision | - | - | - | 354.5 | 367.0 | 370.561 | 392.19 | 1,484.249 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Medical and Fluid | - | - | - | 159.5 | 169.0 | 166.737 | 200.22 | 695.452 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Advanced Technology | - | - | - | 119.1 | 114.7 | 124.306 | 152.11 | 510.220 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Adhesive Dispensing Systems | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Advanced Technology Systems | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Industrial Coating Systems | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Industrial Precision Solutions | 338.257 | 405.48 | 1391.046 | 354.5 | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Medical and Fluid Solutions | 170.871 | 168.62 | 660.316 | 159.5 | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Advanced Technology Solutions | 139.549 | 145.29 | 577.270 | 119.1 | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 648.677 | 719.29 | 2628.632 | 633.2 | 650.6 | 661.604 | 744.52 | 2,689.921 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Revenue by Geography - in Millions of USD | Q1 2014 | Q2 2014 | Q3 2014 | Q4 2014 | FY 2014 | Q1 2015 | Q2 2015 | Q3 2015 | Q4 2015 | FY 2015 | Q1 2016 | Q2 2016 | Q3 2016 | Q4 2016 | FY 2016 | Q1 2017 | Q2 2017 | Q3 2017 | Q4 2017 | FY 2017 | Q1 2018 | Q2 2018 | Q3 2018 | Q4 2018 | FY 2018 | Q1 2019 | Q2 2019 | Q3 2019 | Q4 2019 | FY 2019 | Q1 2020 | Q2 2020 | Q3 2020 | Q4 2020 | FY 2020 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2021 | Q3 2021 | Q4 2021 | FY 2021 | Q1 2022 | Q2 2022 | Q3 2022 | Q4 2022 | FY 2022 | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q3 2023 | Q4 2023 | FY 2023 | Q1 2024 | Q2 2024 | Q3 2024 | Q4 2024 | FY 2024 |
Americas | 290.515 | 315.64 | 1,149.76 | 274.012 | 294.4 | 287.016 | 323.2 | 1,178.63 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- United States | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Other Americas | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Europe | 167.536 | 184.3 | 682.68 | 179.310 | 182.1 | 179.370 | 185.32 | 726.10 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Asia Pacific | 190.626 | 219.38 | 796.20 | 179.871 | 174.1 | 195.218 | 236.01 | 785.20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Japan | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
- Other Asia Pacific | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total Revenue | 648.677 | 719.31 | 2,628.63 | 633.193 | 650.6 | 661.604 | 744.52 | 2,689.92 |
Executive Team
Questions to Ask Management
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Margins at Atrion have significantly declined since 2022. Beyond the general supply chain issues you've mentioned, can you provide specific actions you're taking to restore margins to Nordson levels, and what is your timeline for achieving this?
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Despite the year-over-year growth in your test and inspection products, particularly in optical and acoustic lines, the semiconductor cycle is known to be volatile. How sustainable is this growth, and what steps are you taking to mitigate potential future downturns in the semiconductor market?
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Your full-year EPS guidance remains unchanged at the midpoint despite the slightly dilutive impact of the Atrion acquisition in Q4. Given this, what other factors or business segments are offsetting this dilution, and how confident are you in achieving this guidance?
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With ARAG experiencing lower volumes due to a downturn in the agricultural market, what contingency plans do you have if this market doesn't recover as quickly as you anticipate, and how will prolonged weakness impact your overall growth strategy?
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Europe has shown weaker organic growth compared to other regions. What strategic initiatives are you implementing to address the challenges in the European market, and how do you plan to drive growth in this region amidst the current economic conditions?
Past Guidance
Q4 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Fiscal 2024 Adjusted Earnings Per Diluted Share: Expected to be in the range of $9.45 to $9.65 per diluted share .
- Base Business Revenue Guidance: Expected to be in the range of flat up to 2% over record fiscal 2023 .
- Impact of Atrion Acquisition: Expected to increase base sales by approximately $30 million in the fiscal fourth quarter .
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Fiscal 2024 Adjusted Earnings Per Diluted Share: Expected to be in the range of $9.45 to $9.65 per diluted share .
- Base Business Revenue Guidance: Expected to be in the range of flat up to 2% over record fiscal 2023 .
- Impact of Atrion Acquisition: Expected to increase base sales by approximately $30 million in the fiscal fourth quarter .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: Q3 2024 and FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Revenue Guidance: Expected to be in the range of flat to up 2% over the record fiscal 2023 .
- Full Year Earnings Guidance: Forecasted to be in the range of down 5% to down 1% per diluted share .
- Third Quarter Sales Guidance: Forecasted to be in the range of $645 million to $670 million .
- Third Quarter Adjusted Earnings Guidance: Expected to be in the range of $2.25 to $2.40 per diluted share .
- Effective Tax Rate for the Full Fiscal Year: Estimated to be 20% to 22% .
- Capital Expenditures for the Full Fiscal Year: Expected to be approximately $40 million to $50 million .
- Net Interest Expense for the Full Fiscal Year: Estimated to be $74 million to $77 million .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: Q2 2024 and FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Revenue Growth: Expected to be between 4% to 7% over the record fiscal 2023 .
- Full Year Earnings Growth: Forecasted to be in the range of 2% to 7% growth per diluted share .
- Second Quarter Sales: Forecasted to be in the range of $645 million to $670 million .
- Second Quarter Adjusted Earnings: Expected to be in the range of $2.20 to $2.35 per diluted share .
- Impact of ARAG Acquisition: Expected to contribute approximately 5% growth at the midpoint of guidance .
- Foreign Exchange Rates: Assumed to have a neutral impact .
- Chinese New Year Impact: Estimated to have a $10 million to $15 million impact on the second quarter .
- Backlog: Entered the second quarter with approximately $750 million in backlog .
- Effective Tax Rate for Full Fiscal Year: Estimated to be 20% to 22% .
- Capital Expenditures for Full Fiscal Year: Expected to be approximately $40 million to $50 million .
- Net Interest Expense for Full Fiscal Year: Estimated to be $74 million to $78 million .
Latest news
Recent developments and announcements about NDSN.
Financial Reporting
- Record Sales and EBITDA: Nordson reported record sales of $2.7 billion and record EBITDA of $849 million, which is 32% of sales. This performance is attributed to the company's growth framework, NBS Next, and its diversified business model .
- Fourth Quarter Sales: Sales for the fourth quarter were $744 million, a 4% increase from the previous year, driven by acquisitions and favorable currency impacts, despite a 3% decline in organic sales .
- Earnings Per Share: GAAP diluted earnings per share were $8.11, while adjusted diluted earnings per share were $9.73, reflecting a slight decrease due to higher interest costs from recent acquisitions .
- Fiscal 2025 Outlook: Nordson anticipates sales growth of 2% to 7% above fiscal 2024 levels, with adjusted earnings per share expected to grow between neutral to 8% .
- Conservative Approach: The company is entering 2025 with conservative expectations due to uncertainties in the global macro environment and customer spending hesitancy .
- Ascend Strategy and NBS Next: The Ascend strategy and NBS Next growth framework continue to drive profitable growth and operational efficiency. The company has strategically increased its mix of recurring revenue and expanded into high-growth markets like medical and electronics .
- Atrion Acquisition: The acquisition of Atrion Medical is expected to be a significant growth driver, expanding Nordson's market in medical device components and contributing to recurring revenue streams .
- Market Hesitancy: Analysts inquired about customer hesitancy, which management attributed to macroeconomic uncertainties and geopolitical factors. There is cautious optimism about potential recoveries in semiconductor and electronics markets .
- Segment Performance: The Advanced Technology Solutions segment showed improvement with a 5% sales increase in the fourth quarter, driven by electronics and semiconductor markets .
- Analysts questioned the impact of macroeconomic factors and the potential for market recovery. Management emphasized their conservative guidance and the strategic positioning of their business segments to handle market fluctuations .
Earnings Call
Nordson Corporation (NDSN) recently held its earnings call for the fiscal year 2024 fourth quarter and full year results. Here are the key points from the call:
Financial Performance
Management's Forward Guidance
Strategic Initiatives
Market Conditions and Analyst Questions
Analyst Interactions
Overall, Nordson is cautiously optimistic about 2025, focusing on strategic growth initiatives and maintaining operational excellence amid uncertain market conditions.
Earnings Report
Nordson Corporation has released its fourth quarter and fiscal year 2024 earnings results. For the fourth quarter, the company reported sales of $744 million, marking a 4% increase over the previous year. Earnings per diluted share were $2.12, while adjusted earnings per diluted share were $2.78. The integration of the Atrion Medical acquisition is progressing well, contributing positively to the quarter's results .
For the full fiscal year 2024, Nordson achieved record sales of $2.7 billion, reflecting a 2% growth over the previous year's record sales. The earnings per diluted share for the year were $8.11, and EBITDA reached a record $849 million, up 4% from the prior year, representing 32% of sales. The adjusted earnings per diluted share for the year were $9.73 .
Looking ahead, Nordson has provided guidance for fiscal 2025, forecasting sales between $2,750 to $2,870 million and adjusted earnings in the range of $9.70 to $10.50 per diluted share. The company enters fiscal 2025 with approximately $580 million in backlog and anticipates first-quarter sales between $615 to $655 million with adjusted earnings per diluted share ranging from $1.95 to $2.15 .
Nordson's President and CEO, Sundaram Nagarajan, highlighted the company's strong performance in the Advanced Technology Solutions segment, driven by improving electronics demand and successful implementation of the NBS Next growth framework. The company remains cautious about the timing of end market recovery, particularly in electronics and agricultural product lines, due to the evolving global macro-environment .