Oracle - Earnings Call - Q4 2025

Executive Summary

• Oracle delivered a strong Q4 FY2025: total revenue $15.90B (+11% YoY), GAAP EPS $1.19 and non-GAAP EPS $1.70; both revenue and EPS exceeded Wall Street consensus. Cloud revenue (IaaS+SaaS) rose 27% to $6.7B, with IaaS up 52% to $3.0B, driven by surging OCI consumption (+62%) and multi-cloud database momentum.
• Remaining Performance Obligations reached $138B (+41% YoY), with cloud RPO up 56%; management raised FY2026 outlook to at least $67B total revenue (+16%) and expects total cloud growth >40% and OCI >70%—a clear acceleration trajectory.
• Q4 beat Street estimates on both revenue and EPS; prior two quarters were roughly in line to modest misses, setting up Q4’s beat as a narrative-shifting catalyst centered on OCI capacity additions, multi-cloud expansion, and AI workload demand [GetEstimates]*.
• Catalysts ahead: aggressive capacity build (FY26 CapEx >$25B), accelerating multi-cloud deployments (23 live, 47 planned), and database AI platform adoption; board declared a $0.50 dividend payable July 24, 2025.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

• Cloud Infrastructure strength: IaaS revenue $3.0B (+52% YoY) and OCI consumption +62% in Q4; management highlighted “demand continues to dramatically outstrip supply”.
• Multi-cloud acceleration: MultiCloud database revenue from Amazon, Google and Azure grew 115% from Q3 to Q4; 23 multicloud datacenters live with 47 more planned over 12 months.
• Confidence and raised outlook: FY2026 revenue “at least $67B,” total cloud growth >40%, OCI growth >70%; RPO likely to grow >100% in FY26, signaling durable demand and visibility.
  • Quote: “We expect our total cloud growth rate—applications plus infrastructure—will increase from 24% in FY25 to over 40% in FY26… Cloud Infrastructure… over 70%” — CEO Safra Catz.

What Went Wrong

• Free cash flow headwind: Trailing 4-quarter FCF turned negative (-$0.394B) as CapEx surged to $21.2B in FY25 to meet demand; management expects FY26 CapEx >$25B.
• Margin mix pressure: Non-GAAP operating margin in Q4 was 44% vs 47% a year ago; GAAP operating margin 32% vs 33% last year—reflecting investment intensity despite revenue growth.
• Prior-quarter misses: Q3 and Q2 were modest misses versus consensus on both revenue and EPS, underscoring the importance of Q4’s beat and FY26 acceleration to reset expectations [GetEstimates]*.

Transcript

Speaker 1

Hello, and welcome to the Oracle Corporation Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ken Bond, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 0

Thank you, Sarah. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Oracle's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. A copy of the press release and financial tables, which includes a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation and other supplemental financial information, can be viewed and downloaded from our Investor Relations website. Additionally, a list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from our Investor Relations website. On the call today, our Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison, and Chief Executive Officer, Safra Catz. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates, or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business, which may potentially affect these forward-looking statements.

These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. We encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q, and any applicable amendments for a complete discussion of these factors and other risks that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. Finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before taking questions, we will begin with a few prepared remarks. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Ken. And good afternoon, everyone. As you can see, we had an excellent fourth quarter to finish out an amazing year with Q4 total revenue and EPS both exceeding my guidance. We are reporting our fiscal year-end results just 11 days after the last day of the quarter. Using Oracle Fusion, we continue to announce our quarterly and annual financial results faster than any other company in the S&P 500. Now, a few years ago, I told you that we'd reached a tipping point in our cloud transition and expected revenue growth to accelerate. And it has. In Q4, we hit double-digit revenue growth. And it's only going up from here, even as the company gets bigger. Our remaining performance obligations now stand at $138 billion, up $8 billion from last quarter and up 41% from last year. And yet, the best is still to come.

Our applications business was the first area we moved to the cloud more than a decade ago. We are now the leader in enterprise back office with SaaS solutions for ERP, financials, EPM, HCM, supply chain, and manufacturing. With the addition of over 100 AI agents, along with strong bookings and higher renewal rates for our strategic SaaS products, I expect the cloud applications growth rate will accelerate this coming year. Our infrastructure business was the next area to move to the cloud. We made engineering decisions that were much different from the other hyperscalers and that were better suited to the needs of enterprise customers, resulting in lower costs to them and giving them deployment flexibility. OCI has seen exceptional demand for infrastructure services. Those contracted, non-cancelable bookings in RPO give us confidence that OCI revenue will grow over 70% this current year.

Included in that is the Oracle Autonomous Database and the AI data platform. Enterprises know that their AI needs demand the most capable database to manage a company's full data set. Further, with our AI and autonomous features, our customers can bring all their data together, make it available for LLMs, and yet have the best security built in. In addition, our customers have the flexibility to run their Oracle databases in OCI, in private clouds, or in partner clouds with our multi-cloud offering. What is clear is that more customers will use the Oracle database to leverage AI. As a result of the strength in our cloud applications and infrastructure, including database services, we are raising our revenue guidance for fiscal year 2026 to over $67 billion, up 16% for the year. Now, to the results.

As usual, I'll be discussing our financials using constant currency growth rates, as it is how we manage the business. Total cloud revenue, SaaS plus IaaS, was up 27% at $6.7 billion. Total cloud services and license support revenue for the quarter was $11.7 billion, up 14%. IaaS revenue was $3 billion, up 52% on top of the 42% growth reported last year. OCI consumption revenue was up 62%. Demand continues to dramatically outstrip supply. Our infrastructure cloud services now have an annualized revenue of nearly $12 billion. Cloud database services, which were up 31%, now have annualized revenue of $2.6 billion. Autonomous database consumption revenue was up 47% on top of the 27% growth reported last year.

As on-premise databases migrate to the cloud, either on OCI directly or through our database at cloud services with Azure, Google, or AWS, we expect that cloud database revenues collectively will be the third driver of revenue growth alongside OCI and strategic SaaS. We are currently live in 23 cloud regions with database at cloud services and have another 47 planned. Database subscription revenues, which include database license support, were up 7%. Infrastructure subscription revenues in the quarter, which includes license support, were $6.7 billion, up 19%. SaaS revenue was $3.7 billion, up 11%. Application subscription revenues, which include support, were $5 billion, up 8%. Our strategic back office SaaS applications now have annualized revenues of $9.3 billion, and they were up 20%. Software license revenues were up 8% to $2 billion. All in, total revenues for the quarter were $15.9 billion, up 11% from last year.

Operating income grew 7%. Non-GAAP EPS was $1.70 in US dollars, while GAAP EPS was $1.19 in US dollars. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 9.7%, higher than my 19.7%, which was higher than my 19% guidance. For the full fiscal year, total company revenue was $57.4 billion, up 9%. Total cloud services and license support revenue, which is entirely subscription-based and accounts for 77% of total revenue, was $44 billion, up 12%. Total application subscription revenue grew 7%, and infrastructure subscription revenues grew 17%. Total cloud services were up 24% to $24.5 billion. IaaS, or cloud infrastructure revenue, was up 51% to $10.2 billion for the quarter, with consumption revenue up 59% from last year. SaaS revenue was up 10% to $14.3 billion for the year. Non-GAAP EPS for the full year was $6 in USD, up 9%. The full year operating income grew 9%.

As mentioned, remaining performance obligation at the end of Q4 is now $138 billion, up 41% in USD. Further, our cloud RPO grew 56% on top of the 80% growth last year and now represents nearly 80% of total RPO. Approximately 33% of total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue over the next 12 months. For the year, operating cash flow was up 12% at $20.8 billion. Free cash flow was a negative $400 million, with $21.2 billion of CapEx. Operating cash flow for Q4 was $6.2 billion, while free cash flow was a negative $2.9 billion, with CapEx of $9.1 billion. The vast majority of our CapEx investments are for revenue-generating equipment that is going into data centers and not for land or buildings. I expect that FY2026 CapEx will be higher at over $25 billion as we work to meet demand from our backlog.

As we bring more capacity online, our revenue and profit growth will further accelerate. At quarter end, we had $11.2 billion in cash and marketable securities. The short-term deferred revenue balance was $9.4 billion. We are committed to returning value to our shareholders through technical innovations, strategic acquisitions, stock repurchases, prudent use of debt, and a dividend. This quarter, we repurchased a little over a million shares for a total of $150 million. Over the last 10 years, we've reduced shares outstanding by more than a third at an average share price of just over $54. In addition, we have paid out dividends of $4.7 billion over the last 12 months. The board of directors, again, declared a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share. Since it's the beginning of FY26, I'd like to comment on the financial acceleration we expect to see in the coming years.

Between our $138 billion RPO and even larger pipeline, we have a clear line of sight to future revenue growth. For fiscal year 2026, I expect that total cloud revenue will grow over 40% in constant currency, up from 24% in FY25. I expect that cloud infrastructure revenue will grow over 70%, up from 51% in FY25. I expect total revenue will be at least $67 billion, up 16% in constant currency, and up more than a billion from our prior guidance. RPO is likely to grow more than 100% in fiscal year 2026. Lastly, I expect we will exceed the revenue growth target we previously provided for FY27. Beyond FY27, I am even more confident in our ability to meet and likely exceed our previously provided FY29 targets.

We will provide a more fulsome update on our long-range financial targets at the financial analyst meeting at Oracle CloudWorld in Las Vegas in October. Now, let me turn to my guidance for Q1, which I'll review on a non-GAAP basis. Now, assuming currency exchange rates remain the same as they are now, currency should have a 2% positive effect on EPS and a flat to 1% positive effect on revenue, depending on rounding. However, of course, the actual currency impact may be different. Total revenues are expected to grow from 11%-13% in constant currency. Are expected to grow from 12%-14% in US dollars. Total cloud revenue is expected to grow from 26%-30% in constant currency and US dollars. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 4%-6% and be between $1.44 and $1.48 in constant currency.

Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 5%-7% and be between $1.46 and $1.50 in USD. Lastly, my EPS guidance assumes a base tax rate of 19%. However, one-time tax events could cause actual tax rates to vary. We had a great year. This year, the one we're in now, will be better. Oracle is well on its way to being not only the world's largest cloud application company, but also one of the world's largest cloud infrastructure companies. With that, I'll turn it over to Larry for his comments. Thank you, Safra. Oracle's future is bright in this new era of cloud computing. Oracle will be the number one cloud database company. Oracle will be the number one cloud applications company. Oracle will be the number one builder and operator of cloud infrastructure data centers.

We will build and operate more cloud infrastructure data centers than all of our cloud infrastructure competitors combined. First, database. Most of the world's most valuable data is stored in an Oracle database. All of those databases are moving to the cloud: Oracle's cloud, Microsoft's Azure Cloud, Amazon's Cloud, or Google's Cloud. Oracle runs everywhere. The latest vector version of the Oracle database, Oracle 23AI, is an AI data platform, the only database that can make all of the customer's data immediately available to all of the popular AI large language models while maintaining complete data privacy for the customer. As use of AI increases, so will Oracle's database market share. Oracle will be the largest and most profitable cloud applications company in the world.

Oracle develops suites of integrated AI agent-based applications for ERP, for EPM, supply chain, manufacturing, human resources, and customer engagement, plus industry applications for healthcare, banking, utilities, retail, hospitality, and many other industries. We use the most modern application generators and AI database technology to build our application suite. We add AI analytics using OpenAI, xAI, Google, Llama, and other popular LLMs on top of that application data. No other company is even attempting to build the depth and breadth of AI-based applications that we have already built. Oracle will build more cloud infrastructure data centers than all of our infrastructure competitors combined. All of our OCI data centers, from the smallest low-cost data center to the largest gigawatt AI training data center, include all Oracle OCI capabilities. A large percentage of those capabilities are autonomous, so labor costs are minimized and human error is dramatically reduced.

Oracle is already prospering in this new era of cloud computing and AI, and it's just the beginning. Back to you, Safra. Thank you, Larry. Before we go to the Q&A, just to repeat one number: FY25 cloud infrastructure revenue was up 51% to $10.2 billion for the year, with consumption revenue up 59% from last year. Sarah, if you could please poll the audience for questions. Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. Please ensure that your phone is not on mute when called upon. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Thank you. Your first question comes from Mark L. Moerdler with Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. Your line is open. Thank you very much for taking my question, Larry, Safra, and the whole Oracle family.

Congratulations on the strong quarter and the strong year. You've been promising and are now starting to deliver, excuse me, and are now starting to deliver extraordinary growth acceleration, something we've not seen at other very large software companies. Yet there's a lack of understanding across the street of your AI business. Can you give us color or break out any numbers to help investors understand the durability and profitability of the AI business? Thanks. Okay. The interesting thing is a lot of people are talking about that they have all the data. These other companies say they have all the data, so they can do AI really well. They can build all these AI agents on top of all of that data. The only problem with that statement is they don't have all the data we do. We have most of the world's valuable data.

The vast majority of it is in an Oracle database. The latest version of the Oracle database is an AI-centric piece of technology, a vector database called Oracle 23AI. What it does is it allows—it's the key enabler for companies to use AI. Using AI, I mean, the current AI models are trained on the internet, otherwise known as publicly available data. Do you think JPMorgan Chase makes all of their internal data publicly available? Do you think those AI models train on JPMorgan Chase's data? Companies want to be able to use AI models on top of their own data. That is essential. Oracle applications make all of the data inside the Oracle applications available to AI models like Grok or ChatGPT, or, by the way, all the rest of them, from Google, from whomever, from Meta, Llama, all of us.

We have all of those—all of those LLMs are in our cloud or in the Oracle cloud. This is our value proposition. Our database takes all of your data. Our applications take all of your application data and make that data available to the most popular AI models. Like, if you like ChatGPT, you use ChatGPT. If you like Grok, you use Grok. You use that in the Oracle cloud. We are the key enabler for enterprises to use their own data and AI models. No one else is doing that. That makes sense. It is a huge—this is not a small point. This is why our database business is going to grow dramatically. Think about it. You have to put all of your data into a database. That database must be highly secure. It must be scalable. It must be economical.

It must be reliable 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. It has to be fault-tolerant. It can never break. That is how Oracle got popular in the first place. It has to hold the data in a way that is consumable by the AI models. In other words, the data has to be vectorized and searchable by the AI models. You use that data to train up those models on your data. Who else is doing that? Let me answer the question. Nobody. Next question, please. Thank you. The next question comes from John DiFucci with Guggenheim. Your line is open. Thank you. Hi, Larry and Safra. Safra, your quote in that press release that you repeated on this call about next year was, I do not know, pretty amazing and as strong a statement as I have seen you make. I have known you a long time.

Putting that in print means a lot to me because I know it means a lot to you. Can you help us unpack that statement a bit? For instance, is Stargate part of the more than 70% growth you expect in IaaS in fiscal 2026? We do not know the timing of Stargate or even your financial share. We know there are big numbers out there, but not how much of it is yours or you are going to be involved. Is Stargate also in the RPO growth of more than 100% in fiscal 2026? Any other color beyond Stargate to help us get our heads around those massive growth numbers for IaaS would be helpful. Thanks, John. We have known each other a very long time, longer than I would admit. The reality is that Stargate is still in formation.

There are a lot of partnerships we are in the middle of right now that are all part of this enormous growth rate. We are the destination for everyone who wants AI workloads, who want database workloads, and want applications. We are really—and all of that together comes into our RPO. We have so much in pipeline right now that—and of course, we have so much in RPO, meaning those are non-cancelable contracts. We see the demand. I am still in a position where our supply is not meeting our demands. We actually currently are still waiving off customers or scheduling them out into the future so that we have enough supply to meet demand. This is a situation that we have not seen in our history. The numbers themselves are so enormous. The reason is because our technology is different.

As Larry has said on previous calls, the cloud we built runs faster and has more capabilities than our competitors that are built for enormous amounts of data. We are very much the destination of choice. As Stargate forms, that will contribute into all of this. Some of our partners, many of our partners, some of them will be in Stargate. Some are outside of Stargate. We really are working with many, many companies right now and have enormous pipeline as a result. Let me give you a couple of—let me chime in here also a little bit. Let me surprise you with there are huge contracts that have nothing to do with even AI. We got a gigantic contract from Temu that would have been unprecedented except for all the other gigantic contracts we've also been getting.

Temu is a very large company that's growing extremely rapidly. They are basically moving their infrastructure to the Oracle Cloud. That was a very big contract. We're seeing huge growth in multi-cloud from the data centers we've already built and the data—I mean, if it's revenue, it's obviously data centers we've already built. The future, the growth rate in multi-cloud is astonishing. In other words, our database is now moving very rapidly to the cloud, I think because a few reasons, because the database has now all these AI capabilities, but also, quite frankly, now people can get it in whatever cloud they want. If you're dedicated to using Microsoft Azure, you can get the Oracle Database in Microsoft Azure. The fully capable Oracle Database in Microsoft Azure with all of our fanciest features, including the new AI features. You can get it at Google.

You can get it at Amazon. You can get it at the Oracle Cloud. It's all the same in every place. That has given our customers a lot of comfort that Oracle is not only where they store all of their current data, but they want to keep using the Oracle database and expand their use of the Oracle database and move all of that data to the cloud as quickly as they can. They are now able to do it at the cloud of their choosing. The database business is growing rapidly. This next generation of companies like ByteDance, TikTok, which obviously we do business with them, Temu and others, but Uber. I mean, there are just lots of these companies. A bunch of the security companies have moved to the Oracle Cloud. It's growth coming from many, many different directions.

If I could just—Stargate is just part of it. There are a lot of things happening here. I just wanted to clarify. It sounds like it is part of RPO, but is it also part of that 70% in IaaS revenue growth too? Safra, go ahead. Stargate is not formed yet, but some of our business with OpenAI, which is one of our partners in Stargate, is part of our future, very much so. Do you understand? We work with OpenAI. Those are still small numbers in the scheme of everything else we are doing, but it will ultimately be bigger. Got it. Thank you very much and great stuff. Next question, please. Let me add one little thing. If Stargate turns out to be everything it is advertised, then we have understated our RPO growth. Correct. The next question comes from Ben Reitzes with Melius Research.

Your line is open. Hey, thanks, Safra and Larry. Great to be speaking with you today. Nice presentation. Your CapEx in the quarter was much higher than expected. I mean, $5 billion more than we expected to get to the '21. And now you're thinking about it going to '25. Just wanted a little more color on what it was spent on. How is it helping you yield more revenue? And how do you know '25 is the right number for this year? Larry usually has some pretty good color on architecture when you answer this question. I'm looking forward to that as well. Okay. Let me start and let Larry make it perfect. The reality is that, as I mentioned on the call, our CapEx is usually about equipment. We have building partners who charge us rent once they've finished constructing things.

When we all of a sudden have higher CapEx, it means we are filling out data centers and we are buying components to build our computers, which are different than other people's, and we are putting them on the floor. We had an opportunity to buy up and for deployment, and we did. We are putting out as much capacity as we possibly can as quickly as we can. I do believe that the $25 billion next year may turn out to be understated. It is all to meet demand. We do not order. We do not build unless we have orders for our capacity to be built out. We have so much in orders right now that I actually expect—I believe I said on the call—over $25 billion this next quarter. That is, again, to match demand.

Let me add, we recently got an order that said, "We'll take all the capacity you have wherever it is." This could be in Europe. It could be in Asia. We'll just take everything. I mean, we never got an order like that before. We had to move things around. We did the best we could to give them the capacity they needed. The demand is astronomical. Now, we have to do this methodically. The reason demand continues to outstrip supply is we can only build these data centers, build these computers so fast. We are also doing a lot of engineering around high-speed networking. You'll see us making—we are making large engineering investments to speed up the networking, the reliability of the networking, and lower the cost of the networking.

We're doing a bunch of things—we are doing a bunch of things to lower our CapEx costs. Even if we do that, CapEx is going to go up because the demand right now seems almost insatiable. I mean, I don't know how to describe it. I've never seen anything remotely like this. Thanks a lot, Larry. Appreciate it. I mean, people are calling up and asking us, "Please, can you find us more capacity? We'll take it wherever." "Oh, it's in Malaysia. We'll take it there." "Fine. We'll take it there." You got some wherever. Are you having any trouble getting GPUs? No. No. Not right now. No. Got it. Thanks for so much color, guys. Appreciate it. Next question, please. The next question comes from Sitikantha Panigrahi with Mizuho. Your line is open. Great. Thanks. And congratulations and a strong Q4 and impressive guidance.

I want to go back to the cloud database. Mainly, you have massive database on on-prem. What are you hearing from customers in terms of migrating to cloud? Now you have multi-cloud strategy. You have dedicated Alloy customer. Safra, what's your expectation on the cloud database revenue contribution or driving that 70% growth of OCI in fiscal 2026? Okay. Let me just start. First of all, the database business is really healthy, really growing. In fact, you even see it in the number that I think folks did not think was possible, which is in license. You should understand that when our customers are buying more licenses, that actually means often that they want to use the bring-your-own-license pricing to go to the cloud. Database support is solid. License is up. All the cloud metrics, autonomous consumption, Oracle Cloud, all of it.

Multi-cloud is basically using up all capacity that gets put out there. The Oracle database is on fire. It is only the beginning. I want to remind you what a significant and large business it is. The bulk of it is still on-premise. As Larry said, now that you can have it in any of the clouds you like with the database at Oracle, in all the other clouds also beyond just OCI, or you can deploy it at Cloud at Customer, another place where the numbers are enormous in growth rates. Consumption going way up, more licensing, more bookings, and a lot of demand. The database side of the world, for all the reasons Larry said, is just a superb business and extremely compelling, especially to the extent you want to leverage artificial intelligence.

You asked for a number, an easy number to figure out. Let's say $10 billion of our support revenue, our database support revenue, moves to the cloud. That becomes at least $50 billion because it includes all the computers and all the networking and all of that. The support was just 20% of the license fee. You move $10 billion of our database to the cloud, it becomes at least $50 billion in cloud revenue. It's almost as big as Oracle is now. Yep. Yeah. Thanks, Larry and Safra. The next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays. Your line is open. Thank you. Congrats from me as well. One subject we haven't really talked about was applications. With all the excitement around OCI, I think you don't get enough credit on applications. Can you talk a little bit about what's going on there?

Because I had to go back in my model quite a bit to see 22% growth on Fusion. The outlook looks really strong as well. You talked about accelerating growth there. With all the worries about tariffs and stuff like that, I'm surprised to see kind of these very, very good numbers from you. Can you maybe talk about that a little bit? Thank you. Sure. Tariffs have no impact really at all to play in this. What it does allow our customers to do is do what I do when I announce a year on day 11, is to be really much better run and have a better idea of where their business is and how it's doing and to do more and spend a lot less.

What you're seeing now, and it hasn't been obvious in the numbers because, as you know, we have our strategic SaaS products, and we break that down for you in the release to some extent. Those are going gangbusters. We've had other things in the numbers that have made you not be able to really see. We have some non-strategic products. In addition, we've also had an advertising business, which we are now lapping. I stopped even mentioning it because what's the difference? A few hundred million. The reality is what you're starting to see is our strategic SaaS products as they roll out in our customer sites and as they ramp up. They're very, very popular. They're obviously compelling because only if you're in the cloud can you use the AI capabilities. See, many customers are still on-premise ERP products.

Those can't really use the advanced agentics and AI capabilities. If you want to use that, and many do for automation and to do more spend less, you've got to move to Fusion or NetSuite. Those are just very, very compelling. It's just now starting to show through the noise. Okay. I would add let me add one thing, which is companies don't really enjoy buying applications from five different vendors and then making all of those applications work together. Some companies, not all, but some companies are saying, "Oracle, you build these integrated suites of applications," and they are all AI agent-based applications. They're modern applications. They're modern cloud applications. All of your applications are engineered to work with one another.

Our ERP and EPM, supply chain, manufacturing, human resources, customer engagement, all those apps are designed as a single suite of applications to run an enterprise or government agency. All those pieces then work together. There is no cost of integrating those applications. We are seeing a lot of companies basically saying, "I'm going to go all Oracle. I'm going to buy the complete Oracle suite for ERP, EPM, supply chain, manufacturing." A lot of people do not have manufacturing. Supply chain, human resources, and customer engagement. They are picking us. If they pick our back office applications, they will sometimes pick our front office applications over Salesforce as a result of that. Our customer engagement applications are getting better and better. We continue to invest in those.

Our intent is to give some of our biggest customers a one-stop shop where they can buy the entire suite to run their enterprise from us. That gets rid of a lot of headaches. Everything is in the same database. Everything comes with the same AI data platform with it. All the analytics are there. Everything is there. You do not have to do the system integration. You do not have to buy a bunch of pieces and make them work together. That has been our strategy for some time. That is all coming together as a bunch of companies are not successfully navigating this difficult, admittedly difficult transition from on-premise to the cloud. There have been a lot of companies that have not done it very well. They are casualties. We are picking up a lot of their users. The application business is very, very promising.

I add Oracle Health and Oracle Banking, Oracle Retail, Hospitality, the different industries on top of that. There is no other apps company that is trying to build such a broad-based integrated suite of AI cloud application. Who is closest? There is no one attempting to do what we are doing. Makes sense. Thank you. Next question, please. Your final question comes from Brad Alan Zelnick with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Great. Thank you very much. And congrats. Safra, Larry, the things you have been telling us would happen are clearly happening. And it is amazing. As we go forward, Larry, Oracle has always had the advantage of being the only vendor with enterprise-grade technology from apps all the way down to infrastructure. And since the SunDay is optimized even down to the silicon, why does the full-stack nature of what you do remain important as we enter this new era of computing?

Such an interesting question because I think to some degree, people thought our biggest weakness is that we were just spread too thin. We're trying to do infrastructure, I mean, database initially, infrastructure, and then applications on top of that infrastructure. What made our database so good? I can argue we made some good technology decisions. The other thing that made our database so good is we developed apps on top of our own database. In the same company, you had people using the database to develop applications and the people who were developing that database. If the applications found features missing from the database, they found capabilities they wish were in the database that would make their applications better, more reliable, more secure, we gained those insights by building those applications. Building applications allowed us to understand how to build database better.

Building great databases made it much easier to build the cloud. There are a lot of databases that run the cloud. There's a database of our users. All of our resources are in databases. The Oracle Autonomous Database is one of the reasons our cloud at some point, we're going to rechristen our cloud from Gen 2 Cloud to the Autonomous Cloud. Right now, that would be too aggressive. We're not fully autonomous. We're getting there. Because we were able to use a lot of our existing database technology, specifically the Autonomous Database technology, to make our cloud more scalable, more reliable. By the way, when you eliminate human labor, when you have an autonomous database, you eliminate human labor, you save money, but you also eliminate human error and human mischief. It makes your cloud much more secure.

One of the reasons our cloud is more secure, one of the reasons our cloud is faster, is because we have an autonomous database that runs it. Having all of these levels of technology allows us to solve a technical problem at the right layer of the technology. Should we solve the problem in the network fabric? Should we solve the problem with our cloud computer controller, something we have at other people that we've embedded different hardware to run the cloud? We have different hardware architecture to make it more secure and more reliable. We have done innovation in the network. We have done innovation in our host computing. We have an autonomous nonstop Linux operating system that we built, the Autonomous Database that manages all the data in the cloud, and so on.

Being able to solve problems at different layers of the technology, understanding the different layers of the technology, allows us to build an integrated solution that is faster, cheaper, more reliable than what our competitors can do. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Larry, Lenz, and Brad. A telephonic replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our investor relations website. Thank you for joining us today. With that, I'll turn the call back to Sarah for closing. Thank you. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.