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What went well
- Strong Financial Performance and EPS Growth: PG&E reported core earnings of $1.06 per share for the first nine months of 2024, up $0.30 over the same period last year, driven by higher customer capital investment and O&M savings. The company extended its guidance of at least 10% core EPS growth through 2025.
- Increased Capital Plan and Rate Base Growth: PG&E increased its five-year capital plan by $1 billion, resulting in a compound annual growth rate in rate base of 10%. This incremental capital is expected to be accretive to earnings per share and supports further customer growth.
- Operational Improvements and Load Growth Opportunities: The company is achieving O&M cost savings through nearly 200 initiatives, reducing expenses by 5.5% in 2023 and targeting further reductions. Additionally, PG&E anticipates load growth from electric vehicles, data centers, and building electrification, contributing positively to future earnings.
What went wrong
- Regulatory approval uncertainty for future capital expenditures: PG&E's earnings growth is heavily reliant on significant capital expenditure plans, such as the additional funding requested in the supplemental SB 410 filing. The company acknowledges that they won't include this in their plan until they meet their criteria, indicating uncertainty in securing regulatory approval.
- Potential regulatory pushback on undergrounding costs: There is concern about the cost-effectiveness of undergrounding as a wildfire mitigation strategy. The CEO mentions that some policy decision-makers and interveners do not understand the actual math, which could lead to challenges in obtaining approval for these investments.
- Credit rating below investment grade: PG&E remains one notch below investment grade at Moody's and Fitch, affecting their financing costs and potentially hindering their ability to fund future investments efficiently.
Q&A Summary
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$1 Billion CapEx and EPS Growth
Q: Was the $1B CapEx increase the driver of 10% EPS growth?
A: Yes, the additional $1 billion in CapEx was the key driver for increasing EPS growth to 10%. This disciplined approach ensures approved CapEx that's affordable, accretive to EPS, and efficiently financed. -
Funding Without New Equity
Q: How do you fund the $1B CapEx with no new equity?
A: The $1 billion CapEx was funded by issuing junior subordinated notes with 50% equity content. This efficient financing means no changes to our equity plan; we're issuing a routine $3 billion ATM program over five years, with no new equity in 2024. -
Data Center Load Growth
Q: What's the status of the 3.5 GW data center pipeline?
A: We're completing our first cluster study with 3.5 GW of requests from multiple customers. Demand is strong, confirming significant capacity available. Last year, we added 9.5 GW of new supply and 10 GW of battery storage in California. -
Additional $5B CapEx Potential
Q: How do you view the $5B in incremental investments?
A: We have a robust pipeline and could add an additional $5 billion of CapEx as it meets our criteria. This includes transmission, data centers, IT improvements, generation, hydros, and EV-related capital. Despite adding $1B this quarter, the $5B potential remains unchanged. -
Undergrounding Strategy
Q: What's the update on undergrounding guidelines and plans?
A: We're working with OEIS to establish filing requirements, aiming to file by mid-2025. Undergrounding is the right solution for our highest risk areas, offering long-term cost benefits and safety without compromising reliability. -
Wildfire Mitigation and Agency Relations
Q: Any updates on wildfire risk discussions with agencies?
A: The focus is on making the system safer faster, with current mitigations working effectively. We discuss acceptable outage levels given risks, advocating undergrounding as it eliminates both PSPS and wildfire risks. Our progress includes no major fires and limited structural damage over multiple years. -
Affordability Initiatives
Q: Thoughts on Governor's executive order on affordability?
A: We share the goal of affordable energy and are implementing our simple affordable model. Our upcoming 2027 rate case filing will demonstrate cost reductions and load growth benefits, aiding customer affordability as we invest in infrastructure. -
DOE Loans and Election Impact
Q: How might the election affect potential DOE loans?
A: The DOE loan process is confidential, but resolution is possible before year-end. We like the DOE loan for net savings to customers but haven't included it in our financial plan; it would be upside and accretive. -
Credit Rating Improvements
Q: Where do you stand on FFO to debt and ratings?
A: We're on track to reach mid-teens FFO to debt by year-end, showing significant improvement. We're one notch below investment grade at Moody's, meeting financial metrics, and optimistic about our discussions. -
Asset Sales Not Planned
Q: Are asset sales part of efficient financing plans?
A: Asset sales are not on our list; we don't see them as a primary source of efficient financing. We're not moving forward with Pac Gen and have no plans for monetizing assets.
Guidance Changes
Annual guidance for FY 2024:
- Core Earnings Per Share (EPS): $1.34–$1.37 (raised from $1.33–$1.37 )
- Capital Expenditure (CapEx): $63 billion (raised from $62 billion )
- Operating Cash Flow: Over $3 billion (no prior guidance)
Annual guidance for FY 2025:
- Core Earnings Per Share (EPS): $1.47–$1.51 (no prior guidance)
Additional multi-year guidance:
- Long-term EPS Growth (2026–2028): At least 9% each year (no prior guidance)
- Equity Guidance (2025–2028): $3 billion (no prior guidance)
- Credit Rating: On path to achieving investment-grade credit (no prior guidance)
- With the rising wildfire risks and increased use of operational mitigations like Public Safety Power Shutoffs, how do you plan to address customer concerns about reliability while accelerating undergrounding efforts, and what is your strategy for balancing safety and outages during this transition?
- You've added $1 billion to your five-year capital plan due to growing customer demand, yet you maintain that your equity guidance remains unchanged; how will you finance this additional capital efficiently without impacting your credit ratings or requiring additional equity?
- Considering you're just one notch below investment grade at Moody's and Fitch with a positive outlook, but faced a particularly challenging wildfire season, what specific actions are you taking to secure credit rating upgrades, and how confident are you in achieving investment-grade status in the near term?
- With $5 billion of potential incremental capital investments pending regulatory approvals like the SB 410 supplemental, what are the key risks if these approvals are delayed or unfavorable, and how might that affect your growth projections and capital plans through 2028?
- Given that the DOE loan would provide net savings for customers but isn't included in your financial plan, how are you managing the uncertainties around this potential funding source, and what contingencies are in place if these loans or grants do not materialize?
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024 and FY 2025
- Guidance:
- Core Earnings Per Share (EPS) for 2024: Narrowed to $1.34 to $1.37, with a firm expectation of 10% growth over 2023 at the midpoint .
- 2025 EPS Guidance: Raised to $1.47 to $1.51, with a growth guidance of 10% .
- Long-term EPS Growth: At least 9% each year from 2026 to 2028 .
- Operating Cash Flow: Over $3 billion more for the full year 2024 .
- Capital Expenditure (CapEx): Increased by $1 billion, totaling $63 billion through 2028 .
- Equity Guidance: $3 billion of equity from 2025 through 2028 .
- Credit Rating: On path to achieving investment-grade credit .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Core Earnings Per Share (EPS): Reaffirmed $1.33 to $1.37, at least 10% growth from 2023 .
- Capital Investment: $62 billion over the next 5 years .
- Rate Base Growth: 9.5% through 2028 .
- Operating and Maintenance (O&M) Cost Reduction: 2% reduction in non-fuel O&M costs for 2024 .
- Parent Debt Paydown: $2 billion by the end of 2026 .
- Return on Equity (ROE): Increased to 10.7% .
- Dividend Growth: Planned over the next 5 years .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Earnings Per Share (EPS) Guidance: Reaffirmed $1.33 to $1.37, at least 10% increase from 2023 .
- Long-term EPS Growth: At least 9% each year from 2025 to 2028 .
- Dividend Growth: Planned over the next five years .
- Capital Expenditure (CapEx) and Rate Base Guidance: $62 billion over the next five years .
- Operating Cash Flow: From $5 billion in 2023 to $8 billion in 2024, totaling $50 billion from 2024 through 2028 .
- Equity and Debt Financing: Up to $3 billion of equity starting in 2025 .
- Credit Ratings: Targeting investment-grade ratings .
- FFO to Debt Ratio: Mid-teens ratio targeted .
- Regulatory and Balance Sheet Targets: 52% utility equity ratio by mid-2025 .
Q4 2023 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2023
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Core Earnings and EPS Growth: Reaffirmed at least 10% growth target for 2024, with a new midpoint of $1.35 .
- Rate Base and CapEx Growth: 9.5% rate base growth and a 20% increase in the 5-year capital plan .
- Operating Cash Flow: From $5 billion in 2023 to $11 billion by 2028 .
- Financing: No new equity in 2024 .
- Customer Bill Growth: Limited to 2% to 4% from 2023 through 2026 .
- Cost Savings: 5.5% reduction in nonfuel O&M costs in 2023, with continued 2% annual reductions .
- Regulatory and Risk Management: New ROE of 10.7% and a mid-teens FFO to debt ratio targeted by 2024 .
Recent developments and announcements about PCG.
Legal & Compliance
- PCG (PG&E Corporation): The company involved in the legal proceedings.
- Underwriters: J.P. Morgan Securities LLC, Barclays Capital Inc., and Citigroup Global Markets Inc. are acting as representatives for the underwriters in the offering of securities.
- PCG is involved in a public offering of shares of common stock and/or other equity securities. This involves entering into underwriting agreements with the underwriters for the sale and distribution of these securities .
- The company has made representations regarding compliance with various laws, including anti-bribery and anti-corruption laws, and has stated that no legal proceedings related to these laws are pending or threatened .
- The company has also confirmed that it is not in violation of any environmental laws that could have a material adverse effect .
- The offering of securities is expected to raise capital for PCG, which could impact its financial condition positively by providing additional funds for operations or debt repayment .
- The company has stated that there have been no material adverse changes in its financial condition since January 1, 2024, which suggests stability in its operations .
- PCG has also ensured that it maintains adequate insurance coverage and internal controls, which are crucial for mitigating operational risks .
Legal Proceedings
Summary of the Legal Matter Involving PCG
Key Parties Involved:
Nature of the Proceedings:
Potential Financial or Operational Consequences:
Overall, the legal proceedings primarily relate to the issuance and sale of securities, with no current legal actions pending that could materially affect the company's operations or financial condition .
Legal Proceedings
The legal matter involving Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PCG) primarily revolves around the company's compliance with various regulations and the potential financial and operational consequences arising from these issues. Key parties involved include PG&E Corporation and its subsidiary, Pacific Gas and Electric Company. Nature of the proceedings includes investigations and potential enforcement actions related to wildfires, compliance with safety and environmental regulations, and financial reporting standards. The company faces risks associated with wildfires, including liability for damages and the effectiveness of its wildfire mitigation initiatives . Additionally, there are concerns about the company's ability to recover costs through rates and the impact of severe weather events and other natural disasters on its operations . Potential financial or operational consequences for the company include liabilities from fines or penalties, reputational harm, and challenges in maintaining operational efficiency and reliability. The company also faces uncertainties related to its substantial indebtedness and the ability to access capital markets .
Financial Actions
Dividend Policy
PG&E Corporation Announces Changes in Dividend Policy
PG&E Corporation has announced the pricing of its concurrent offerings of common stock and mandatory convertible preferred stock. The preferred stock will have a dividend rate of 6.000% on the liquidation preference of $50.00 per share, payable on a cumulative basis when declared by the board of directors. Dividends can be paid in cash, shares of common stock, or a combination of both, starting March 1, 2025, and ending December 1, 2027. This marks a significant update in the company's dividend policy, particularly with the introduction of the mandatory convertible preferred stock .
Dividend Policy
PG&E Corporation has announced a change in its dividend policy. On November 29, 2024, the company declared an increase in its fourth-quarter 2024 regular cash dividend to $0.025 per share, which is an increase of 0.015 cents per share. This dividend is payable on January 15, 2025, to shareholders of record as of December 31, 2024. Additionally, PG&E Corporation's management anticipates recommending consistent dividend increases targeting a dividend payout ratio of approximately 20% of non-GAAP core earnings per share by 2028 .