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RED ROBIN GOURMET BURGERS INC (RRGB)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 2024 delivered revenue of $285.2M on a 12-week quarter (vs 13 weeks LY), with comparable restaurant revenue up 3.4% ex-loyalty deferral and Adjusted EBITDA up 19% YoY to $12.7M, driven by appointment dining promotions, loyalty momentum, and tighter middle-of-P&L management .
- GAAP net loss widened to $39.7M due to $32.4M impairment and closure costs and calendar headwinds; Restaurant-Level Operating Profit margin was 11.5% (down 70bps YoY) as discounting rose ~120bps .
- 2025 guidance: revenue $1.225–$1.250B, Restaurant-Level Operating Profit 12–13%, and Adjusted EBITDA ex-SBC $60–$65M; capex $25–$30M; plan to close 10–15 restaurants and monetize 3 properties (gross proceeds $5.8M) to reduce debt and enable refinancing in 2026–27 .
- Stock reaction catalysts: margin expansion plan primarily via labor efficiency, loyalty-driven traffic momentum into Q1, restaurant portfolio optimization, and adjusted EBITDA definition change to exclude SBC beginning 2025 .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Loyalty 2.0 drove engagement and frequency; total members ~14.9M by year-end with increased transactions and record sign-ups; “loyalty transactions… increased 13%” and Q4 comps accelerated through quarter-end .
- Operational efficiency tools (hot schedules, food cost A vs T) showing traction; Q4 labor efficiency recapture implies ~$6M savings (~50bps) through first 3 quarters of 2025 if maintained .
- Adjusted EBITDA up 19% YoY in Q4 to $12.7M despite a shorter quarter; management credits reduced selling and G&A and improved middle-of-P&L conversion from top-line momentum .
Quote: “We began to see the benefit of our work… culminating in a 600-basis point improvement in traffic trends from the first quarter… and a 19.0% increase in adjusted EBITDA” — G.J. Hart .
What Went Wrong
- GAAP net loss widened to $39.7M from $13.7M LY, primarily from $32.4M impairment and closure costs tied to ~70 underperforming locations under review .
- Restaurant-Level Operating Profit margin fell to 11.5% (down 70bps YoY), pressured by lower guest counts and higher discount levels (~+120bps YoY) .
- FY 2024 Adjusted EBITDA down to $38.8M from $68.9M LY as traffic declines and promotions weighed; prior-year included 53 weeks and sale-leaseback gains .
Financial Results
Summary financials vs prior year and prior quarter
Notes:
- Q4 2024 includes 12 operating weeks vs 13 in Q4 2023; calendar shift impacted revenue and EBITDA vs LY .
- Q4 net loss includes $32.4M impairment and closure costs .
Revenue breakdown
Comparable Restaurant Revenue components (YoY % change)
Guidance Changes
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- Strategic focus: “Two key priorities in 2025: bringing guests back… and an accelerated effort to gain efficiency in our operations and deliver growth in restaurant and corporate-level profitability” — G.J. Hart .
- Labor and margin: “In 2025, we expect to become much more efficient with our labor costs… primary driver of our expected increase in restaurant-level operating profit” — G.J. Hart .
- Portfolio actions: “We… expect to close 10 to 15 restaurants in total in 2025” (asset impairments recognized in Q4) — G.J. Hart .
- Debt and liquidity: “Position ourselves to be able to refinance our debt… use a portion of our free cash flow in 2025 to repay debt… monetize owned real estate” — Todd Wilson .
Q&A Highlights
- Pricing vs margin: Incremental 2025 pricing ~1% with focus on labor efficiencies; West Coast benchmarking drove Q4 pricing; “threading the needle” to avoid over-pricing while pursuing cost savings .
- Discounts/mix trajectory: Discounts elevated due appointment dining; expect YoY discount increase in Q1–Q2 then normalization; attach rates (appetizers/desserts/beverages) holding up, supporting mix quality .
- Quarter-to-date (Q1): Early Q1 strong; weather volatility; aiming midrange ~+3% SSS and ~$16M adjusted EBITDA in a 16-week quarter plus $2–$3M SBC add-back under new definition .
- Margin drivers: “The vast majority… will come from labor” vs limited COGS benefit; commodity basket ~3% inflation with beef the main pressure .
- Off-premise/third-party: ~15% of sales; improving algorithm placement via targeted investment; expecting improvements in 2025 .
- Closures timing: 10–15 closures spread across 2025; 3 property sales in Q1 part of that count .
Estimates Context
- Wall Street consensus estimates via S&P Global for Q4 2024 were unavailable at the time of request due to data access limits; therefore, beat/miss vs consensus cannot be determined. Management’s 2025 guidance (Adjusted EBITDA ex-SBC $60–$65M, Restaurant-Level Operating Profit 12–13%) implies upward trajectory in profitability that consensus models should incorporate along with the new EBITDA definition excluding SBC .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Sequential operating momentum: Q4 Adjusted EBITDA rebounded to $12.7M from $2.1M in Q3; Restaurant-Level margin improved to 11.5%, aided by loyalty and appointment dining .
- FY25 margin expansion strategy: Majority of margin uplift targeted from labor efficiencies (hot schedules, process streamlining), with commodities ~3% and incremental pricing ~1% .
- Portfolio optimization: Underperforming units impaired; plan to close 10–15 locations and sell 3 properties in Q1 to reduce cash burn (~$6M restaurant-level loss in 2024 from ~70 underperformers) and repay debt .
- Balance sheet/liquidity: $189.5M outstanding borrowings; ~$50.7M liquidity at year-end; credit agreement amendments extended covenant flexibility and revolver expansion into early 2026, supporting refinance preparation .
- Non-GAAP methodology change: Adjusted EBITDA will exclude SBC starting FY25; transparency note that SBC expected $9–$10M in 2025 — monitor comp to prior periods and peer definitions .
- Marketing ROI discipline: Interim leadership testing balanced media; shifting to efficient digital/social/owned channels to drive traffic at lower cost; 2025 selling expense targeted at ~$30M .
- Near-term trading: Watch for Q1 comps and EBITDA cadence (16-week quarter), closure execution pace, and progress on labor efficiency; narrative sensitive to loyalty-driven traffic and discount normalization .
Additional Data Points
- Liquidity at year-end: cash & equivalents $30.7M, restricted cash $8.8M, revolver availability $20M; debt $189.5M principal .
- FY 2024 summary: revenues $1.25B, Adjusted EBITDA $38.8M, net loss $77.5M; Restaurant-Level Operating Profit margin 10.8% .
- Comparable traffic trend improved across 2024: traffic decline moderated from (9.4%) in Q1 to (3.4%) in Q4; menu price increase rose to 9.0% in Q4; total comps +1.8% in Q4 including deferral .