Q3 2024 Earnings Summary
| Metric | YoY Change | Reason |
|---|---|---|
Total Revenue | +7% | The company achieved steady organic growth from higher pricing (supported by initiatives in previous quarters) and acquisitions, despite a slower increase in volume due to intentional shedding of certain business lines. Strong core price discipline helped drive revenue up to $4,076.2M. |
Small-Container Collection | +7% | Higher average yield and targeted pricing actions, building on last year’s momentum, boosted revenue in this segment. This was partially offset by a continued shift away from broker-related business, maintaining healthy direct-customer relationships. |
Environmental Solutions | +15% | Continued benefits from prior-year acquisitions (notably U.S. Ecology) added to robust price-led growth. Efficient integration and cross-selling, which began ramping up in prior quarters, also strengthened margins and revenue to $464.7M. |
Other (incl. Recycling & Non-Core) | +27% | Improving recycled commodity prices (up 41% YoY to $107.6M in recycling revenue) contributed strongly. This contrasts with the previous period’s subdued commodity environment, showcasing how commodity market recovery significantly lifted this line. |
Group 1 Region | +7% | Revenue reached $1,844.0M, reflecting higher average yield and selective acquisitions. Last year’s cost pressures have been partly mitigated by refined pricing strategies and ongoing operational efficiencies. |
Group 3 Region | +15% | Building on prior-year integration of acquired environmental assets, stronger pricing discipline continued to propel performance to $464.7M. Previous quarters’ cost synergies and improved cross-selling have further enhanced profitability. |
Operating Income | +16% | Reached $846M, driven by effective cost management and margin expansion. Previous periods laid the groundwork by focusing on core pricing above inflation, while this quarter’s lower restructuring expenses and higher operational efficiency reinforced profitability. |
Net Income | +18% | Strong top-line growth combined with contained operating costs pushed net income to $565.7M. In comparison to the prior period, improved commodity pricing and realized acquisition synergies contributed significantly to the bottom line. |
Diluted EPS | +19% | Increased to $1.80, reflecting higher net income and favorable share repurchases. Pricing initiatives from the previous year continued in this quarter, enhancing margins and lifting EPS above last year’s levels. |
| Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Revenue | FY 2024 | $16.075B to $16.125B | Trending to low end ($16.075B) | lowered |
Adjusted EBITDA | FY 2024 | $4.9B to $4.925B | Trending to high end ($4.925B) | raised |
| Metric | Period | Guidance | Actual | Performance |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Revenue | Q3 2024 | 16.075 billion to 16.125 billion USD(FY 2024) | 4,076.2 million USD | Beat |
| Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|
Margin expansion | Consistent margin expansion cited each quarter: • Q2: +110 bps (31.1% margin) • Q1: +120 bps (30.2% margin) • Q4 2023: +60 bps for full year, +260 bps in Q4. | 210 bps expansion to 32%; boosted by one-time benefits (insurance recovery, bad-debt adjustment), plus strong pricing discipline. | Consistent topic with continued optimism, though Q3 had outsized gains aided by one-time items. |
Volume declines in cyclical segments | • Q2: Softness in construction, -3.3% in large container vols • Q1: -4.4% in large container vols, weather impacts • Q4 2023: Declines from weaker housing and C&D volumes. | Saw -1.2% organic volume on total revenue, with construction-related activity down; large container volume -3.6%. | Consistent topic, volume remains soft in construction; sentiment unchanged as company prioritizes price over vol. |
Pricing discipline | • Q2: High pricing spread vs. cost inflation • Q1: +8.5% core price on related revenue • Q4 2023: Emphasis on bidding at profitable rates, supported by high CPI/alternative indices. | Maintained price over volume focus; core price on related revenue at 7.4%. | Consistent topic with steady positive sentiment; company continues to prioritize margin over volume. |
Construction and industrial volume outlook | • Q2: Muted construction due to high interest rates; outlook for rebound in next 3–9 months • Q1: Expect volumes to improve in second half of the year • Q4 2023: C&D volumes down; hopeful for improvement in 2025. | Construction softness persists; 3.6% decrease in large container volumes. Cautiously optimistic about a recovery in 3–12 months. | Recurring topic; sentiment remains cautious but hopeful for future recovery. |
Environmental Solutions growth | • Q2: +130 bps margin to 23.8% • Q1: +120 bps overall margin lift to 30.2%; ES margin slightly dilutive from acquisitions • Q4 2023: +250 bps margin in Q4. | Revenue up $60M yoy; EBITDA margin +290 bps (including one-time benefit), with a long-term margin target similar to waste/recycling. | Consistent growth focus, margin expansion continues; outlook remains positive. |
Recycling and polymer center initiatives | • Q2: Las Vegas polymer center flake certified, Indy center on track • Q1: Las Vegas online, strong PET demand • Q4 2023: Las Vegas opened, new sites planned. | Upgrading centers with optical sorters, noting recent commodity price declines; polymer center rollout ongoing, (Las Vegas ramping, Indy under construction). | Consistent topic with positive sentiment; near-term market price volatility but strong long-term outlook. |
PFOS remediation opportunity | • Q2: No mention [—] • Q1: Viewed PFAS as multi-year opportunity, $70–$90M in 2023 • Q4 2023: Significant potential (tens of millions in 2023; could reach 9-digit in 2024). | No mention in Q3 2024. | No current mention; previously seen as a key growth driver, but not discussed in Q3. |
M&A pipeline | • Q2: Strong pipeline; $300M+ in diligence, full-year target $500M–$5B • Q1: $500M in acquisitions targeted for 2024 • Q4 2023: $1.86B done in 2023, aiming for $500M in 2024. | $300M in advanced deals for the year; previously aimed for $500M, citing timing lumps. | Consistent topic but slightly lower near-term deal flow vs. initial target; sentiment remains positive. |
Automation and equipment upgrades | • Q2: RISE platform, cameras for contamination detection, Empower rollout • Q1: Route optimization, $60M from container monitoring, +EV fleet • Q4 2023: Digital tools for asset management, EV expansion. | Continued recycling center retrofits, new optical sorters, and Empower fleet system for $20M in annual savings by 2025. | Consistent topic with positive sentiment, emphasizing tech-driven efficiency gains. |
One-time benefits impacting margins | • Q2: No direct mention [—] • Q1: No direct mention [—] • Q4 2023: Event-based work, mild weather provided one-time margin tailwinds. | Insurance recovery (50 bps) and bad-debt adjustment (10 bps enterprise) boosted Q3 margins; not expected to recur. | Recurring in Q3 and Q4 only; modest sentiment impact as these benefits are not permanent. |
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Margin Guidance
Q: Are margin declines in Q4 due to one-time items?
A: Management noted that the third quarter benefited from two significant one-time items: an insurance recovery adding 50 basis points and a bad debt adjustment contributing 110 basis points to Environmental Solutions, amounting to about 10 basis points for the entire company. Excluding these, margins were strong. The guidance for Q4 reflects a step down in margins more than normal seasonality due to the absence of these one-time benefits. -
2025 Incremental Drivers
Q: How much will sustainability initiatives contribute in 2025?
A: Sustainability innovations, including the RNG portfolio, polymer centers, and blue polymers, are expected to add approximately $75 million in revenue and $30 million to $35 million in EBITDA in 2025. The Empower initiative is projected to contribute around $10 million next year, with full run-rate benefits of $20 million realized as it is fully deployed. Additional gains from the RISE platform are anticipated, with about $25 million more to come, split between 2025 and 2026. -
M&A Pipeline and Outlook
Q: Can you update us on the M&A pipeline?
A: The company expects to close around $300 million in acquisitions this year, down from the initial $500 million target. A strong pipeline is building, and management anticipates a robust first half next year. The commitment to M&A remains strong, with expectations for meaningful contributions moving forward. -
Volume Trends and Construction Softness
Q: Should we expect softness in volumes to continue?
A: The industry has experienced a flat to slightly negative demand environment over the past 12 to 18 months. Construction softness, particularly in the large container business, has impacted volumes. However, management is optimistic about future growth due to underbuilt housing and potential increases in construction activity, with signs of improvement starting in the fourth quarter and into 2025. -
Pricing Strategy and CPI Contracts
Q: Will the pricing spread between open market and restricted contracts continue?
A: The current spread of around 400 basis points between open market and restricted pricing is higher than historical levels and is expected to narrow as inflation indices decrease. The company has shifted 61% of contracts historically tied to headline CPI to more favorable terms, aiming to maintain pricing above cost inflation and drive margin expansion. -
Electric Vehicle Adoption
Q: How is your EV strategy progressing towards 2028 targets?
A: The company is on track with its EV strategy, having ordered about 100 electric vehicles. Management acknowledges challenges but emphasizes the importance of early infrastructure planning and understanding incentives to accelerate adoption. The introduction of fully electric trucks from Oshkosh is a game changer, allowing a full day's operation without sacrificing payload. -
Internal Cost Inflation Trends
Q: How is internal inflation trending compared to CPI?
A: Internal cost inflation is moderating, with labor cost inflation around 4.5%. Maintenance costs have improved due to new truck deliveries and reduced turnover, allowing more work to be done in-house at lower labor rates. Parts inflation has also eased, leading to overall cost inflation expected to decelerate modestly into 2025. -
Environmental Solutions Margin Improvement
Q: What's driving margin improvement in Environmental Solutions?
A: Margins in Environmental Solutions have improved to approximately 24% EBITDA due to optimized customer mix, tactical pricing, and cost management. Strategic efforts include focusing on more profitable verticals, enhancing labor utilization, and leveraging systems and technology to support growth. -
2025 Capital Spending
Q: How will 2025 capital spending for sustainability compare to 2024?
A: Capital spending in 2025 for sustainability initiatives like the polymer center and EV investments is expected to be relatively consistent with 2024, possibly slightly higher. Investments in RNG are made through joint ventures and accounted for like acquisitions rather than capital expenditures. Overall, CapEx as a percentage of revenue is not expected to change significantly. -
Customer Pricing Amid Lower Inflation
Q: Are customers still accepting price increases as inflation moderates?
A: Management finds operating in a 3.5% to 4% inflation environment favorable. Customers continue to accept price increases necessary to offset cost inflation, allowing the company to maintain margins while providing employees with regular wage increases. -
Volume Outlook and Churn
Q: What are your expectations for volume growth and churn?
A: The company anticipates volume growth as economic indicators improve over the next 3 to 9 months. Some churn is expected due to strategic repricing and exiting less profitable contracts, especially following acquisitions. Despite current construction volume declines, rational pricing behavior is maintaining profitability. -
Digital Initiatives and Future Capabilities
Q: What digital initiatives are planned for 2025 and beyond?
A: With the RISE platform in place, the company aims to optimize route sequencing and adherence, where each minute saved can add about $5 million annually. Future initiatives include automating transactional processes in order-to-cash, expected to yield benefits into 2026 and 2027. These efforts enhance employee experience, customer service, and operational efficiency. -
Recycling Center Investments
Q: Are there plans for further automation in recycling centers?
A: Annual investments are made to upgrade recycling centers with new optical sorters and automation to produce higher-quality products. While some labor may be added, the focus is on improving product quality and increasing circularity. Plans include building new facilities where needed and continuing to upgrade the existing 75 to 77 centers. -
Environmental Solutions Growth Outlook
Q: How is the organic growth outlook for Environmental Solutions?
A: While there has been some customer churn due to strategic pricing, management is focused on testing customer willingness to pay for valued services. Volume has been relatively flat, but pricing has exceeded expectations. There are plans to drive both unit growth and margin expansion in 2025. -
Core Price Deceleration
Q: What factors contributed to core price deceleration this quarter?
A: The deceleration is primarily due to the expected anniversary of new fees introduced last year and a sequential step down in the restricted portion of the business from 5.6% to 4.9%. This reflects lower inflation indices, and as long as the company maintains the spread over cost inflation, margin expansion can continue. -
M&A Pace and Target Margins
Q: Has M&A activity slowed, and how are target margins affected?
A: M&A activity has varied due to market conditions, but the company's enthusiasm remains unchanged. Management remains disciplined, closing approximately one out of every eight opportunities. The focus is on strategic fit and financial returns, with less emphasis on current margins and more on potential post-integration improvements. -
Labor Availability and Wage Inflation
Q: How is labor availability affecting operations and wages?
A: Labor turnover has decreased by 100 basis points year-over-year, with labor cost inflation around 4.5%. Labor availability is improving overall, though challenges remain for certain positions like technicians. The company is addressing this by investing in technical education and training programs. -
Margin Expansion Outlook for 2025
Q: What is the outlook for margin expansion in 2025?
A: While specific guidance for 2025 is not provided, management expects to grow revenue at mid-single digits and EBITDA slightly faster, implying 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion. This aligns with the company's long-term strategy to enhance profitability. -
Q4 Guidance and Seasonality
Q: Is the Q4 guidance conservative given seasonal trends?
A: Management acknowledged that while margins typically step down from Q3 to Q4 due to seasonality, they are focused on full-year results and feel good about where they will end up in Q4. They do not emphasize precise quarterly updates but rather provide markers for expectations. -
2025 Rollover Acquisitions and Interest Expense
Q: What should we consider regarding rollover acquisitions and interest expense in 2025?
A: Rollover impact from acquisitions already closed is expected to contribute 10 to 20 basis points to 2025 growth, with potential upside from fourth-quarter deals. Interest expense may increase slightly due to debt maturities being refinanced at higher current rates, but no significant impact is anticipated.
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