SB Financial Group - Earnings Call - Q2 2025

Executive Summary

• SB Financial delivered a strong Q2 2025: GAAP diluted EPS $0.60 and adjusted EPS $0.58, up 27.7% and 26.1% year-over-year; operating revenue rose 22.3% to $17.2M, supported by 25.6% growth in net interest income and 15.1% in noninterest income.
• Versus S&P Global consensus, SBFG posted a beat on normalized EPS (actual $0.58 vs $0.54) and revenue (actual $16.42M vs $11.80M); estimate counts were thin (1 covering analyst), so magnitude should be interpreted cautiously* [GetEstimates].
• Management flagged tailwinds: net interest margin expanded to 3.48% (+36 bps YoY) with CFO guiding to ~3.70% in Q3; asset quality expected to improve with anticipated ~$1.5M decline in NPAs in Q3.
• Balance sheet growth continued: loans +8.9% YoY (+$89.3M) and deposits +12.1% YoY (+$134.6M) with Marblehead low-cost deposits largely retained; TBV/share rose 7.7% YoY to $16.44.
• Potential stock catalysts: continued margin expansion toward ~3.70%, resolution of NPAs, mortgage banking momentum (originations $97.9M; pipeline ~$34M), and Russell 2000 re-addition.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

• Margin and earnings momentum: Net interest margin reached 3.48% (highest since Q4 2022), fueling EPS growth; CEO: “Net income…$3.9 million…GAAP DEPS of $0.60 up 27.7 percent…first full quarter of contribution from the Marblehead acquisition”.
• Diversified fee strength: Noninterest income rose 15.1% YoY to $5.0M, driven by mortgage gains and title revenue; mortgage banking net revenue $2.159M (best since Q1 2022), with gain-on-sale yield ~2.13% YTD 2025.
• Growth and integration: Loans +$89.3M YoY; deposits +$134.6M YoY (incl. ~$51M from Marblehead) with near-100% retention six months post-close.

What Went Wrong

• Efficiency still elevated: Efficiency ratio improved to 68.9%, but expense growth (+11.1% YoY to $11.9M) reflects salary/benefits, data processing, and professional fees.
• Asset quality mixed: NPAs ticked up YoY to $6.2M (0.42% of assets); allowance coverage robust, but NPAs higher than prior year; provision rose to $597k.
• Linked-quarter deposit drawdown: Deposits declined $21.4M QoQ due to seasonal public fund distributions; management expects stability with treasury wins amid market disruption.

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Good morning and welcome to the SB Financial Second Quarter 2025 Conference Call and Webcast. I would like to inform you that this conference call is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will begin with remarks by management and then open the conference up to the investment community for questions and answers. I will now turn the conference over to Sarah Mekus with SB Financial. Please go ahead Sarah.

Sarah Mekus (Corporate Secretary)

Thank you and good morning everyone. I'd like to remind you that this conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and will be archived and available on our website at ir.yourstatebank.com. Joining me today are Mark Klein Chairman President and CEO Tony Cosentino Chief Financial Officer and Steve Walz Chief Lending Officer. Today's presentation may contain forward-looking information. Cautionary statements about this information as well as reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures are included in today's earnings release materials as well as our SEC filings. These materials are available on our website and we encourage participants to refer to them for a complete discussion of risk factors and forward-looking statements. These statements speak only as of the date made and SB Financial undertakes no obligation to update them. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Klein.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Thank you Sarah and good morning everyone. Welcome to our Second Quarter 2025 Conference Call and Webcast. We clearly approached this year with a fair bit of optimism that included favorable funding costs associated with our Marblehead acquisition a much larger balance sheet from an expanded market presence and a stable team of seasoned lenders all bound by an improving economic environment. Six months in we have met and exceeded our expectations. On a go-forward basis we have positioned ourselves quite nicely to continue our trends and to outperform our peers in the second half of this year. For this quarter net income was $3.9 million with diluted earnings per share of $0.60 up $0.13 or nearly 28% compared to the prior-year quarter. When considering the servicing rights recapture adjusted EPS was $0.58 for the quarter.

The book value per share ended the quarter at $16.44 up from $15.26 last year or a 7.7% increase. Net interest income totaled $12.1 million an increase of over 25% from the $9.7 million in the second quarter of last year. From the linked quarter net interest income accelerated at a 30% annualized pace. Loan growth for the quarter was approximately $90 million up 8.9% from the prior year and marking the now fifth consecutive quarter of sequential loan growth. Deposits grew by over 12% including Marblehead deposits of $51 million. Excluding Marblehead deposits deposit growth would have been approximately 7.5%. Importantly the deposits from Marblehead have remained nearly 100% intact just six months after the acquisition. Collectively this quarter assets under our care now exceed $3.5 billion.

This includes our bank assets of $1.5 billion our residential servicing portfolio of approximately $1.5 billion and wealth assets under our care of $537 million. It is this scale and revenue diversity that have driven our performance to a higher level. Mortgage originations for the quarter were just short of $98 million up from both the prior year and linked quarters. Our pipeline remains strong at nearly $34 million reflecting continued momentum from our recent investments and more high-producing MLOs. Operating expenses decreased approximately 4.5% from the linked quarter as the first quarter was elevated due to one-time conversion costs we discussed in prior quarters. Charge-off levels returned to more historic levels in the quarter at less than 2 basis points and our remaining asset quality metrics were consistent with the linked quarter.

Finally we were pleased to be added to the Russell 2000 Index once again during the recent rebalancing. This milestone reflects the market's recognition of our strong financial performance our commitment to organic growth and overall brand value. We continue our relentless focus on our strategic five key initiatives as we've discussed in many quarters before. Revenue diversity would balance between NIM and fee-based revenue organic growth more households more services in households to gather greater scale and efficiency improvement deepening client relationships operational excellence and top-tier asset quality. Revenue diversity. As I noted earlier our mortgage group delivered a strong rebound in the second quarter with mortgage origination volume of approximately $98 million. Despite a slow start to the year we believe borrowers have become more accustomed to the current rate environment leading to increased purchases as well as a bit of refinancing activities.

We've also benefited from our expanded team of mortgage professionals in Cincinnati and Indianapolis. I want to highlight our Indianapolis team which delivered its most successful quarter of production since inception in the first quarter of 2019. They have an experienced team and we continue to be not only very high on that staff but that market as well. We remain committed to the residential real estate business line as it continues to provide us with entry points into a variety of growth markets within central and southern Ohio even as we work to strengthen our core markets in Northwest Ohio and Northeast Indiana. As with prior quarters we've continued to evaluate our efficiency and capacity utilization and have hit pause as we've mentioned in prior quarter on adding any additional support staff until volume levels approach at least that $400 million annual production mark.

Overall we still have ample room to grow within our current infrastructure. As I mentioned our pipeline currently stands at $34 million which would point us toward our third quarter production to be well in line with the $98 million we delivered this quarter. Clearly the quarter continued the pace of being a dominant purchase market. In fact our $98 million in volume just $4 million was a result of internal refinances. As a result 82% of our volume this quarter was purchase transactions and right in line with the year-to-date purchase transaction volume. Interestingly now with over 8,900 mortgage households we service across our 16-county footprint and with just approximately two services per mortgage household our potential to drive organic expansion with more products and services remains clearly front and center.

Non-interest income was up 15.1% from the prior-year quarter at $5 million and up 22.9% from the linked quarter. The increase from the second quarter of 2024 was driven by increased gain on sale of mortgage loans and mortgage servicing rights as well as increased title service fees and other related revenue. Again this quarter our Peak Title affiliate outperformed the mortgage market in general and delivered revenue growth from every region. Year-to-date they have now closed 564 transactions which is up over 34% from the first six months of 2024. They have exceeded our budget expectations by 27% and continue to be a valued part of our product suite.

We have now discussed our wealth management division in a few quarters with the level of market volatility and some unexpected annuitizations and amortizations of several relationships having affected their ability to add net asset growth this year. However we continue to feel this business line is additive to our brand and a true differentiator to a $1.5 billion community bank. Overall clients have remained very loyal and our pursuit of our holistic client care model allows us to add one more service to our approximately 39,000 households. In addition we are poised to announce a new strategic partnership in the coming quarter that will deliver more managerial and operational resources to the business line that will not only benefit our current client base but will also potentially add more depth to our financial advisor skill set.

On the scale front as we completed our first full quarter of operations following the Marblehead acquisition we were pleased with the overall integration of their staff with State Bank's team and their ability to retain legacy relationships with their loyal client base and deep community connections. This acquisition underscores our ability to balance relationship-driven organic growth with targeted M&A opportunities. Deposits were up year-over-year but down slightly from the linked quarter. Compared to the second quarter of 2024 total deposits were up $135 million or 12% reflecting our ability to drive deposit relationships in parallel with extensions of credit. Excluding the $51 million in deposits from the acquisition deposits grew by $84 million or 7.5%. For the linked quarter we saw balances decline by $21 million as a portion of the seasonal public fund balances were distributed as we mentioned in the prior quarter.

That said we continue to have very positive conversations with clients and prospects alike on the treasury side as the current disruptions in our markets are opening up other opportunities to attract new commercial deposit relationships. As I mentioned overall loan growth continues to be strong. When compared to the second quarter of 2024 our loan book grew $89 million or approximately 9% and $6.4 million nearly 1% from the linked quarter. Adjusting for Marblehead loan growth would have been $71 million or up 7.1% from the prior year. Our loan growth coupled with stable funding costs that Tony will detail in a bit in our webcast drove our net interest margin this quarter up 36 basis points to nearly 3.5% which is the highest level we've experienced since the fourth quarter of 2022. Columbus has continued to provide positive momentum and is driving the bulk of our loan growth.

That market is still very competitive but our four commercial lenders have ramped up their calling efforts substantially in order to counter the competitive landscape. Our work to adjust our sales has led to our Columbus team adding new high-end relationships that will continue to drive growth beyond the $400 million loan book that we currently serve in that robust market. In terms of deepening existing relationships more scope more services in each household we clearly take pride in the strength of our client relationships and remain focused on delivering the products and services our prospects want while deepening relationships through innovative solutions that existing clients need. As a key element of that commitment we continue to expand our hybrid office model that is geared to providing connectivity with clients through multiple communication channels and yet assist us with improving our operational efficiency.

This is the exact model that will enable us to take market share in our newer expansion markets of Angola Indiana and soon-to-be Napoleon Ohio. Additionally we have heightened our pursuit of organic growth within our legacy markets that are experiencing significant disruption including acquisitions office closures and/or consolidations. As these local market dynamics shift we contend that customers will see stability and care from an established partner like State Bank. In fact to capitalize on this disruption and ensure regional and business line execution of our growth plans we have identified specific corporate initiatives and regional growth goals. These measurable plans are designed to deliver us a greater percentage of the market that just might become available over the next 12 months-18 months as the crack in the landscape widens.

With regard to operational excellence compared to the prior year commercial real estate loans grew by approximately $91 million consumer loans increased by over $12 million C&I loans decreased by $3.4 million and agricultural loans also decreased by $3.4 million. As we review our total production both on and off balance sheet we delivered $166 million in loan volume across all business lines which was up nearly 41% from the second quarter of 2024. Despite some short-term softness in the ag production arena we remain quite positive on our ability to bolster long-term growth. Client loyalty remains high as does our ability to customize solutions for our ag producers. Finally we remain significant depository relationships with our client base that will undoubtedly open up more lending opportunities as capital needs arise. Finally asset quality. We continue to reveal high levels of asset quality metrics.

Charge-offs fell to less than 2 basis points from a slightly elevated quarter in the first quarter. Non-performing assets totaled $6.2 million and we remain focused on maintaining that strong asset quality as demonstrated by our continued management of our criticized and classified loans which stood at $7.2 million up just slightly from $7.1 million in the linked quarter. Our allowance for credit losses remained robust at 1.43% of total loans and provided 265% coverage of non-performing assets. We continue to feel strongly that the credits that deteriorated in the early part of 2024 will be resolved in the short run with minimal financial impact. Resolving these credits will not only improve our asset quality metrics but will also be accretive to our earnings with recaptured interest and fees. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Tony for a few more comments on our quarterly performance. Tony?

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

Thanks Mark and good morning everyone. Let me just outline some additional highlights and details of our second quarter results. First an income statement review starting with the net interest income. Interest income has been the center post of our revenue expansion thus far in 2025 and our results this quarter reflect that growth. Specifically our revenue from earning assets was $18.5 million up $2.8 million or 18% higher than the prior year. From the linked quarter the growth was $1.1 million which is a 25% annual growth rate and bodes well for our results in the second half of this year. Interest expense is also higher but at a much lower level than the top line. For the quarter interest expense was $6.3 million up $344,000 from the prior year or less than 6%.

The yield on our interest-bearing liabilities is actually down from the prior year at 2.33% compared to 2.48% a year prior. As we look at non-interest income non-interest income rose from both the prior year and the linked quarters with a percentage of non-interest income to total revenue moving more in line with our historical averages at 29.4%. We did see the gain on sale of mortgage loans title insurance and other revenue contributing meaningfully to the year-over-year improvement illustrating the value of a diversified revenue stream. Our total mortgage banking contribution this quarter of nearly $2.2 million was the highest since the first quarter of 2022. We continue to utilize the hedging program which allows us to not only maximize gain potential but also to minimize our rate exposure as the pipeline expands.

The gain on sale yield thus far in 2025 is 2.13% which is up from 2024 and just slightly below the historic average. Our sale percentage of originations of nearly 83% is ideal for the profitability model we need in this business line. Operating expenses decreased compared to the linked quarter as the $725,000 of merger costs were accrued last quarter. As we compare operating expenses to the prior year higher volume and inflation have resulted in the quarterly expense level of $11.9 million to be higher by $1.2 million or 11%. However in concert with revenue growth from the prior-year quarter of $3.1 million or 22% our operating leverage was a strong +2x. Turning now to the balance sheet beginning with loans loan growth continues on a positive trend line quarter-over-quarter.

In addition to CRE which has provided the bulk of our growth we have been pleased that traditional consumer loan balances have grown over 18% as compared to the prior year. We have seen success with not only HELOCs but also with selective targeted growth in used autos and marine lending. Our loan-to-deposit ratio moved up slightly in the quarter to 88% up from 86% in the linked quarter. We are very comfortable with our liquidity position and we can easily move to the mid 90% with our on-hand liquidity of over $75 million without driving funding costs higher. On deposits as we had discussed in our webcast last month our 3/31 deposit base had approximately $60 million of transitory deposits primarily from the public entities that we service.

We expected that a large proportion of these funds would move back into these communities and our deposit levels would move lower to just slightly above $1.2 billion. All of our deposit categories have moved higher since a year ago and as Mark indicated we are extremely pleased with the retention we have seen from the Marblehead deposits. Finally a comment on our balance sheet betas as we are hopefully approaching the beginning of a downward rate cycle. Since the third quarter of 2024 our loan beta is 16 basis points nearly equal to our cost of funds beta of 19 basis points. Concerning capital management during the quarter we repurchased 124,000 shares at an average price of just under $19 roughly 113% tangible book and 91% of tangible book adjusted for AOCI.

As Mark mentioned our tangible book value per share was up 7.7% year-over-year and was up from the linked quarter by $0.65 driven by a $1.4 million benefit on AOCI higher earnings and a slight reduction in share count. Finally on asset quality. Total delinquencies were slightly lower than the linked quarter at 51 basis points with the bulk of that reduction in the 90+-day category. Total provision expense for the quarter was $597,000 driven by a higher level of unfunded commitments and a slight weakening in the seasonal economic factors which drove our provision level higher. Optimistically the second half of the year may move provision lower if the non-performing credits that Mark referenced are resolved in our favor as we anticipate and the economic metrics improve.

Our allowance increased this quarter to $15.6 million and we feel it is more than adequate based upon our underwriting strength and the anticipated level of growth in our loan portfolio. I'll now turn the call back over to Mark.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Thank you Tony. We certainly remain very encouraged by our potential to deliver a strong performance in the second half of 2025. We anticipate positive resolutions to several non-performing credits in Q3 and our expense base has stabilized. With continued solid loan growth and the expectation that funding costs will be stable to slightly lower margin expansion should continue. Also we believe that the likelihood of rate reductions in the near term has the potential to further expand our residential mortgage volume. We announced a dividend this past week of $0.15 per share equating to approximately a 3.16% yield and 25% of our earnings which as Tony mentioned is in line with our long-term average of approximately 30%. We have consistently raised our payouts annually since we restarted the common dividend over 12 years ago.

In closing we remain quite pleased with the potential to grow our expanded region with the addition of Marblehead and we are aggressively pursuing growth in markets where our competition presents us with more opportunities. We intend to focus on driving our organic balance sheet growth while maintaining discipline on operating efficiency cost management and potentially opportunistic acquisitions. Now let's open the call up for questions for us for the second quarter. Sarah?

Sarah Mekus (Corporate Secretary)

Thank you. We are now ready for your questions.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question please press star then one on your telephone keypad. If your question has already been addressed and you'd like to remove yourself from queue please press star then two. Today's first question comes from Brian Martin at Janney Montgomery. Please go ahead.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Hey good morning guys.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Morning Brian.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Hey Mark maybe you could just start with two short comments on the mortgage outlook. It seems pretty optimistic given you called out Indy but just kind of getting back to at least for the full year kind of getting back to around $300 million or $300 million+ that seems pretty achievable as you sit today given the potential for lower rates and the momentum in Indiy. Maybe just a little comment on that if you could.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Yeah absolutely. We have approximately I think 28 or 29 MLOs. They're high producers. We've got the back room to support them. Really two of our higher potential markets of Cincinnati and Indianapolis are just gaining traction. Their potential is as you might expect quite high and we're very bullish not only as I mentioned on the teams but also the markets. I continue to remain very optimistic and if we get a little play Brian on the 10-year we could see that magical $400 million number and beyond because Tony and I talked before bottoming at $216 million a year ago. We think it's just going to be the impetus to getting back to more of that $500 million that we've always contended we're built for. Remain optimistic with the number of producers and we certainly have the back room to pull it off.

I think Tony's done a really nice job on the hedging position that we take which really allows us to forward contract and make commitments with a pretty high pull-through from all of our lenders in all of our markets.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. Okay that's helpful. Tony the gain on sale margin is pretty consistent with where it's kind of been. Nothing no big movement one way or the other on how we think about that.

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

I think we were down just slightly maybe from historical. I think generally pricing has been a little tighter this year. I do think it's going to be in that $2.15-$2.25 range on out for the rest of 2025 and into 2026. That seems to be where the market is kind of settled at this point.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. Okay. Maybe just a little bit whomever on just the optimism on the loan growth. It was about I think $6 million for the quarter. I guess just in thinking about the back half it sounds like you're pretty optimistic. Just kind of the run rate picking up from here sounds like it could be I don't know if there were maybe payouts in the quarter or just maybe slowed this quarter down a little bit but just what's the pipeline look like and how you're thinking about the next 12 months-18 months on the loan growth side?

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Yeah Steve can certainly chime in here but as you know Brian as you've heard a number of quarters Columbus remains the shining star. We continue to find great traction in CRE in that market. C&I is a little harder to come by. We've got a number of seasoned commercial lenders. We just announced a plan to take market share from the disruption as I mentioned in the webcast and we're clearly optimistic that not just Columbus but other regions like Toledo and Findlay and Fort Wayne will be additive to that number. We remain quite optimistic and I know Steve works directly with all of our lenders and I think we're seeing Steve some opportunities but also a bit more competitiveness.

Steve Walz (Chief Lending Officer)

Yeah no question Mark. I think we remain optimistic about the run rate. Certainly Brian that we've enjoyed here as Mark pointed out we do have a strong seasoned lending team that we aggressively call. There isn't necessarily a secret sauce to how we're doing this and we remain confident that we will continue to deliver those results. As Mark points out competition is definitely stiff but it's not something we shy away from. We're confident when we walk in the door. I think the run rate we're on right now remains sustainable.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Okay and the pipeline today where does that stand? I mean relative like if you look at last quarter this quarter and were there any payoffs in the quarter that kind of clipped this quarter a little bit slower than maybe I thought it would be or is it you know is that just like you say more competition related?

Steve Walz (Chief Lending Officer)

There were some modest payoffs Brian. Nothing I would say is...

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Out of the ordinary.

Steve Walz (Chief Lending Officer)

Yeah nothing too out of the ordinary. We had a couple of things we expected to draw a little more in this quarter that were somewhat delayed by borrowers' cash but I think we remain very comfortable with our pipeline.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Brian just to comment we certainly have a number of sizable credits that we continue to stumble upon as we've identified disruption in the market. We are well prepared to take advantage of the opportunities that are out there in the marketplace.

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

I'll just add on you know Brian I think as we've said in the past we probably have $40-ish million type of undrawn construction type projects that those loans are closed. We have no issue with those that are going to fully fund here between now and call it first second quarter of 2026. We think that's a baseline of call it $10 million-$15 million a quarter of volume that's going to fund up. That's in addition to you know kind of our regular calling and new activity that we've got on the street.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

The nice thing Brian last comment the nice thing is as our rates adjust on credits that are rolling to maturity they're rolling to a higher rate and the good part is they're going to have to pay the same number somewhere else. They're staying put which has allowed us to do what we've said we've done on the NIM expansion.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Right. Just one question on the outlook. It sounds like the margin's got a nice tailwind Tony or just the cost of deposits or the cost of funding is pretty stable here absent some Fed action. That feels like it's stabilized and maybe there's a little room for incremental improvement but the continued repricing within the loan book and remix of the bonds still seems like the margin's got a bit of a tailwind. Just kind of thinking over the next couple quarters where you see the margin kind of more stabilizing once you continue to get a little bit of benefit here.

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

Yeah I think you know I think rightly or wrongly I've underestimated how much the margin has improved for us in the last call it three four quarters. It has outpaced us. I think our ability to retain deposits and not having to chase yield on the funding costs has been effective. We've retained I don't know Steve probably 90% of everything that's rolled over because our pricing on three and five-year FHLB repricing is not that demonstrably far from what the market is. Those customers are naturally rolling up the curve. We continue to have you know we're fairly short-term on our loan book. We continue to have you know call it $100 million-$150 million out every 12 months that's going to reprice at least for the next year-and-a-half to two years that's going to move up call it 150 basis points-200 basis points.

If we're able to retain those and keep funding costs where they are you're right margin has to have forward momentum.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Okay and just a longer term like Tony where do you think the margin can stabilize given kind of the environment we're in today? Obviously much better than it has been. Where do you see it kind of flatlining once you continue to get through some of the potential benefit we get from the rate of the environment we're in?

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

Yeah I think we're probably up another 10-ish basis points here in Q3 and it probably peaks out at call it that $370,000 number. If we can hold a $370,000 margin on our balance sheet that's going to be a great day. I do know funding pressure is going to come. There's no question in my mind. The disruption in the market as Mark talked about I think there's some easy movement our way but there's going to be movement from competitors to tighten that up.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Okay. You guys talked about some improvement on the credit side those credits that came on early last year. I guess that's the potential to maybe see a little bit of lift in or benefit on the provision side if you get some recoveries. Is that kind of how you're thinking about it at least in the short term?

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

Yeah I think by even a fairly conservative estimate we feel we're going to drop non-performing by $1.5 million or so here in Q3. In addition to kind of recapture as we talked about interest and fees we think that dynamic is going to give our overall asset quality significant opportunities. I don't know that we'll be taking reserve back but we certainly in all likelihood we put $1 million aside thus far in provision through the first six months. I just don't see that pace in the second half of the year.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Yeah if credit holds and you get some of this benefit more just lift there. Okay.

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

We don't anticipate any losses really from you know of any consequence from now to the end of the year.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. That reserve coverage Tony just kind of keep it I guess absent any macroeconomic change just kind of keep that pace where it's at the reserve coverage level?

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

It is going to naturally go up. It is probably going to be in the mid-threes by the time we finish just because the denominator is going to change in our favor. I would guess the allowance stays in that $15.6 million-$15.9 million range through the end of the year and probably the first half of 2026 depending on how things look.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. Okay. Last maybe just on the capital optionality I guess as far as repurchasing shares looking at M&A I know the industry has seen more pickup in M&A of late. Just wondering how you're thinking about M&A versus buyback versus just organic deployment into loans.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Yeah just one comment. Tony can certainly weigh in on that one Brian. On the M&A front we keep our ear to the ground for opportunities. We're looking at potentials as we kind of speak. We love organic growth but that doesn't mean that there's not going to be some opportunities out there. We know that's not going to be the panacea so to speak to the scale issue that everyone's having. That said we continue to look at all angles. Clearly with our capital structure we have certainly opportunities to do some of that. Tony comments?

Tony Cosentino (CFO)

Yeah I think I would say we had an oversized amount of the buyback in the second quarter given where the pricing was on the stock and what we felt was the opportunity. I think collectively Mark and I have looked at it and we're probably going to slow that down here in the third quarter because I do think we have some alternative opportunities. Not that we have any capital deficiency. I think our capital is just fine. I think we do have some opportunity not only for organic expansion as we've discussed but I think there's some conversations that we need to maybe keep capital at or above where it is today.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. A last one for me just on the expenses. It sounds like you know a really nice job on that front. Just any big changes to the kind of the run rates where we're at today in terms of I know you talked about not adding some staff to the mortgage obviously if you don't get a little bit more scale but elsewhere kind of investments you know this level's reasonably good maybe a little bit of growth from today's level. Just any thoughts there?

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Brian as we've communicated many quarters you know we got a variable-based compensation plan across the board. We do well. Our staff does well. That's including non-mortgage producers. Clearly as mortgage production rises expenses will go up. The moral story is the scale that we've realized of recent is certainly helping us to deliver you know a better ROA you know at that nearly that 1% level and higher which is certainly you know the long-term goal always. That said we continue to fight that battle because expenses aren't going to go down and certainly technology continues to drive you know our expense level up. That said we know what the job to be done is and that's organic growth at most cost. We're optimistic about where we're at today and we think we can continue to drive performance higher.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Got you. Okay. I think that's all I had guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a nice quarter.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Yeah thanks Brian. Talk to you next week. See you.

Operator (participant)

As a reminder ladies and gentlemen if you'd like to ask a question please press star then one. That concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Klein for closing remarks.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Thank you sir. Thanks for joining us this morning. Nice to have you with us. We certainly look forward to speaking with you on our third quarter 2025 results soon in October. Take care.

Operator (participant)

Thank you sir. This concludes our conference call today everybody. We thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

Brian Martin (Analyst)

Thank you.

Mark Klein (Chairman, President, and CEO)

Thank you.