SiTime - Q2 2024

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Operator (participant)

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the SiTime second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Leanne Sievers, with Shelton Group Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Leanne Sievers (Head of Investor Relations)

Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to SiTime second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. Joining us on today's call from SiTime are Rajesh Vashisht, Chief Executive Officer, and Beth Howe, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that during the course of this call, the company may make forward-looking statements regarding your expected future results, including financial position, strategy and plans, future operations, the timing market, and other areas of discussion. It's not possible for the company's management to predict all risks, nor can the company assess the impact of all factors on its business or the extent to which any factor or combination of factors may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statements.

In light of these risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, the forward-looking events discussed during this call may not occur, and actual results could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated or implied. Neither the company nor any person assumes responsibility for the accuracy and completeness of forward-looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update forward-looking statements for any reason after the date of this call to conform statements to actual results or to changes in the company's expectations. For more detailed information on risks associated with the business, we refer you to the risk factors described in the 10-K filed on February 26th, 2024, as well as the company's subsequent filings with the SEC. During the call, we'll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are considered to be an important measure of company performance.

These non-GAAP financial measures are provided in addition to, and not as a substitute for or superior to, measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. This GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation includes stock-based compensation, as well as acquisition-related items related to amortization of intangible assets, one-time acquisition-related charges, and expense or income related to changes in the estimated fair value measurement of acquisition consideration payable and sales-based earnout liabilities. Please refer to the company's press release issued today for a detailed reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial results. With that, it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to SiTime CEO. Rajesh, please go ahead.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Thank you, Leanne. Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome new as well as existing investors to SiTime Q2 2024 earnings call. For those of you that are not as familiar with SiTime, we are the leader in a dynamic new semiconductor category called precision timing. In electronics, timing is ubiquitous and ensures reliable functioning. SiTime precision timing solutions serve the needs of AI, data center, automated driving, IoT, and 5G. We're in the early days of transforming the $10 billion timing market. Q2 results exceeded the high end of our outlook. Revenue for the quarter was $43.9 million, which was well above our guidance of $40 million-$42 million. Operating profit and EPS were both higher than expected. Each of our reported end markets grew in Q2 at double-digit rates, both sequentially and year-over-year.

The drag of excess inventory over the last few quarters has passed, and we see that inventory is now at normal levels. Bookings for the second half of 2024 are strong, and we expect both Q3 and Q4 to grow sequentially as forecasted. From a geographic perspective, our 2024 revenue in every major region is expected to be strong. Revenue from each of Greater China, North America, and Europe is expected to grow by double-digit percentages. What makes SiTime unique, apart from our technology, is the diversity that we have built in applications, customers, and products. The growth across all of these occurs at different times, as we have previously forecasted. For example, while all our end markets are expected to grow throughout the year, the CED, or Communications Enterprise Data Center market, will grow at the fastest rate, more than 50%.

This is also a market segment with high ASPs or prices, margins, and significant architectural differentiation. Five years ago, SiTime laid out a CED strategy of investing significantly in R&D and customers, and we will continue to do so in the future. We're confident of reaching a $100 million mark in this CED market, as previously forecasted. Within CED, we have made progress in our AI business over several quarters, and I will spend time today to provide greater color on this. We have design wins with our precision timing products in all key applications of the AI ecosystem, including GPU and CPU boards, interconnect switches, optical modules, NIC cards, NIC cards, accelerator cards, active cables, and switches....

To provide a sense of scale, in 2024, we will ship 70 unique part numbers across 14 product families to 30 customers, 30 different customers who are all developing AI hardware. To provide greater specificity, we are focused on the revenue and growth from NIC or network interface cards, interconnected switches, and top-of-the-rack switches, where we deliver higher performance, smaller size, and higher reliability. The precision timing content in each of these systems can range from $8-$25 and includes our highest-end products, such as Super TCXOs, OCXOs, as well as the network synchronizer clocks from our recent acquisition of the Aura products. SiTime is the preferred supplier in these applications because of our capability to customize our devices to the application requirement and deliver performance benefits.

Also, as the only company to focus solely on precision timing, we offer the broadest portfolio of oscillators, clocks, and synchronization software, simplifying the customer's design and purchase decisions. Cloud service providers have been in a race to invest, and we expect that trend to continue at a level that helps fuel SiTime growth. In fact, we now see a greater trend towards improving system bandwidth and utilization, which will require high performance and therefore more complex precision timing from SiTime. Obviously, this bodes well for us as we have all the key technologies to service this trend.

For example, as optical module and active cable bandwidth increases from 800 Gbps to 1.6 Tbps all the way to 3.2 Tbps in the next few years, we expect a corresponding increase in several performance areas of timing, such as frequency, jitter, phase noise, stability, and environmental resilience. We are confident that SiTime has the products today and in our product roadmap to meet these needs. In data centers, we also see an increasing need for synchronization, of which we also offer a complete solution. To summarize, we believe that SiTime strategy of increasing diversity across applications, customers, and products is paying off. By focusing on high-value applications, we're accelerating our customer acquisition.

Our expanding portfolio is delivering superior benefits in new applications that need precision timing, and as the only semiconductor company that's uniquely focused on timing, we're well positioned to continue our success. I'll now turn the call over to Beth to discuss our financial results in more detail. Beth?

Beth Howe (CFO)

Thanks, Rajesh, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I'll discuss the details of our second quarter results and provide our outlook for the third quarter. I'll focus my discussion on non-GAAP financial results, which are reconciled to GAAP in our press release. In Q2, we delivered strong revenue and earnings growth that exceeded our outlook. Q2 revenue was $43.9 million, up 58% year-on-year and up 33% sequentially, with growth in each of our end markets. Sales into the communications, enterprise, and data center market were $15.2 million, up 208% year-on-year and 55% sequentially. Sales into the automotive, industrial, and aerospace market were $14.8 million, increasing 20% year-on-year and 15% sequentially.

Sales into the mobile, IoT, and consumer market were $13.8 million, up 33% year-on-year and 34% sequentially, with sales to our largest customer totaling $7.9 million or 18% of sales. Non-GAAP gross margins were 57.7%, down 20 basis points sequentially. The impact of improved manufacturing absorption with higher volumes was more than offset by the higher overhead and other manufacturing costs as we continue to support our growth plans. Total non-GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were $28.1 million, with R&D expense of $16.1 million and SG&A expense of $12 million. Total operating expenses were up $0.7 million sequentially due to higher commissions on increased revenue as well as strategic hiring.

The Q2 non-GAAP operating loss was $2.8 million, a significant improvement versus the prior quarter operating loss of $8.3 million. Interest and other income was $5.6 million, and Q2 non-GAAP net income was $2.8 million or 12 cents per share, compared with a $1.9 million loss last quarter. Turning to the balance sheet, accounts receivable was $21 million, with DSOs of 43 days, down 3 days sequentially. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $70.8 million, down from $74.4 million last quarter. During the quarter, we consumed $0.2 million in cash from operations, invested $2.6 million in capital purchases, and paid $69 million to Aura as part of the transaction we announced last year.

We ended the quarter with $453 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. Let me now review our outlook for the September quarter. In Q3, we expect to continue to deliver strong revenue growth and to return to operating profitability. We also expect increased costs in both costs of goods and operating expenses as a result of higher costs associated with ramping our new products. Specifically, we expect revenue to increase 25%-27% sequentially to about $55 million at the midpoint. Gross margins to be stable to slightly improving, trending towards 58%. Operating expenses to be in the range of $30.5 million-$31 million, and interest income of at least $5 million. As a result, we expect non-GAAP EPS to be in the range of 23-27 cents per share.

In closing, we are executing on our strategy. Our product portfolio continues to expand with differentiated products that address large and growing markets, and our customers are clearly recognizing our value proposition. All in all, we are excited about our market position and our growth prospects ahead. With that, I'd like to hand the call back to the operator for questions and answers. Operator?

Operator (participant)

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Tom O'Malley of Barclays. Your line is now open.

Tom O'Malley (Analyst)

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to talk about the recovery into the second half. So you talked on the last call about kind of expanding the opportunities that you were kind of chasing as revenue re-accelerated. Could you just talk about, you know, what you're seeing off the bottom here? Is it really just a return to accelerated demand in some end markets now that the inventory correction is kind of behind you? Or are you kind of seeing that traction in the additional kind of opportunities that you're chasing? I guess that's part one. And then part two is, if you look at that guidance in the September quarter, you obviously kind of talked about CEV being the growth engine for the remainder of the year.

Could you just give us a little color on those end markets, and what you would expect from each kind of trending into the September quarter?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Right. So it's a bit of both, Tom, on the first question. In other words, inventory is down, as we said it would be a couple of quarters ago, and that happened, and demand is up. Now, demand isn't up in a monolithic way. There are some places where demand is up a little bit less, and others, where demand is up a lot. So the demand is up a lot is in the area specifically of AI, specifically in the optical markets, and the interconnects and some of the NIC card business. In general, all AI is up, and we continue to see it grow up. I know there's a lot of headlines around that, but we specifically believe that this growth continues over time, as we progress.

Now, the nice part about SiTime, of course, is that everything else is also growing. Our automotive business, along with the mil-aerospace, industrial, all of that, that whole category grows, as does our consumer, IoT, and mobile category. So all of them are growing, but some are growing faster than others, just as I said. As far as what is exactly happening, we certainly see that the drive towards higher performance solutions in optical and active cables is very critical, very important, and we see a lot of active behavior in that, including interconnects and so on.

So just the general part of data center is all growing, and we anticipate that that whole category of communications, enterprise, and data center continues to grow as communications start to catch up, along with enterprise in the coming quarters. In other words, we also expect that to grow in the coming quarters, as some of the newer products from SiTime get adopted in those markets.

Tom O'Malley (Analyst)

Yeah. So, so you're referencing the newer products, and I think in your prepared remarks, you talked about both the COGS and some of the spend being a little higher as it relates to those newer products. If you look at gross margin for the remainder of the year, you're kind of guiding to flattish into the September quarter, kind of trending more towards 58%. How should we be thinking about the gross margin longer term? I would assume that new product integration and launch kind of is a 1-2 quarter event, and then you start to see growth after that. But could you help kind of give the cadence? You've been helpful in the past, kind of getting back to that 60% mark.

Are we still thinking about the same time frame, kind of early next year, or have the new products kind of changed that out a bit?

Beth Howe (CFO)

Sure, Tom. I'll, I'll take that one. Thanks for the question. So we still expect gross margins to be above 60% over the longer term, so no change there. But, and as you'd expect, we are seeing the benefit of the manufacturing absorption with the revenue growth. But as I said, over the next couple of quarters, we do expect that, that the gross margins will be, you know, while maybe improving a little bit, not growing at that faster clip as we're supporting these, these growth plans and ramping these new products into mass production. So it'll take a couple of quarters. As you know, you know, yields improve, and as we go through that, we expect improvement over time, but it'll take a couple of quarters as we're, we're ramping these different products.

You may recall as well, that while previously we might have launched one product or one platform in a given year, in the last couple of years, you know, think about we were able to invest and reinvest a lot of the, the profits from the last couple of years into R&D, and those product platforms are now coming into mass production. And so we have several new products that are, are ramping here in the next couple of quarters. But over the long term, we do expect to still be able to get the margins back above 60%.

Tom O'Malley (Analyst)

Then, Beth, just circling back on the first question, just the trajectory of those businesses into the September quarter, any color on what's generating the uptick, the kind of growth among all of the different segments or any particular color there?

Beth Howe (CFO)

So as we look at—we expect all three segments to grow year-on-year. We would expect that the data center, fueled by AI, would be the fastest growing next quarter as it was this quarter.

Tom O'Malley (Analyst)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Please stand by for your next question. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Caso of Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Chris Caso (Analyst)

Yes, thank you. Good evening. I guess the first question would be, you know, prior call, you talked about 30% growth for the year, potentially being on the table. You know, given the guidance for September, that certainly looks more achievable now. Could you give some so, you know, with that, you know, some comments on, you know, what you might expect on December, understanding that you probably don't want to provide guidance at this point, but, you know, any sort of color on that. Is there any seasonality in play, or is there any lumpiness to, you know, perhaps some of these AI driven drivers in the CED segment as you go into the December quarter?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah, we are, we still believe in that 30%, so we do expect that growth for SiTime. The thing is that I don't see that there's a particular lumpiness to it, other than SiTime ability to deliver, the product, which we think is solid. And so we don't expect any lumpiness per se, in the December quarter or through the year, 'cause this is, there's just a big pent-up demand for, for these products, these end products in data centers. And, I see that whether they are U.S.-based or whether they're China-based, as you know, many of the China-based people also deliver for the big, data center companies. I think, I think we see a very solid performance in those markets.

Chris Caso (Analyst)

Got it. Helpful, thank you. I guess as a follow-on question, if perhaps you could provide some color on the impact of some of the new products on, you know, what's going on right now. And just, you know, using CED as an example, we obviously gone through an inventory correction and, you know, we're kind of getting back to, you know, run rates that were, you know, seeing, you know, kind of late 2021, 2022, before some of the shortages emerged. And, you know, I guess as we compare now to then, you know, how much do some of these new products come into play in terms of driving the growth that was independent of, you know, some of the supply disruptions and inventory correction?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah, these, they are significant. In fact, they are very much these new products are very much part of it. All across the board, whether it is the oscillators that are used in the optical products from customers, those did not exist in 2021 in volume, and they exist now. So we're good with that. There are the higher-end TCXOs, Super TCXOs, OCXOs, and then not to mention our products from our Aura acquisition. I think those are all coming together to not only get us numerous design wins, but also allow us, as I mentioned, you know, to 30 to 14 product families. So I think it's safe to say that at least half of these product families are new, maybe even more than half of these are new.

Chris Caso (Analyst)

And just one more follow-up if I could. You know, with those new products, I understand what you're saying now, that as you're ramping new products, there's a learning curve, there's yield and such. But structurally, as you ramp some of these new products with higher precision, should we expect that structurally, those represent higher margins than what you've seen in the past?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Right. We said that, I said that in my prepared remarks as well, that the CED business is important to us from a long time ago because we see higher ASPs, higher margins, greater stickiness, if you will, greater architectural differentiation, greater definition with customers of jointly of performance. As such, it makes for, and given the size of it, we have other, higher ASPs in, for example, mil, aerospace, defense, but the size of that market isn't as big as this is. So this-- that is why we are, we're putting the CED business front and center, you know, as we did several years ago, and we'll continue to do in the future.

Suji Desilva (Analyst)

Got it. Understood. Thank you.

Beth Howe (CFO)

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is now open.

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

Yes, thank you, and congratulations on the, on the solid recovery here. Rajesh, I had a sort of clarifying question on the communications DC and enterprise business. I think you said you expected to grow 50%+ for the year. I mean, based on the current run rate, it's tracking significantly above that. So, I mean, are we talking about much more than 50%? Any color you can add there, please?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yes, Tory, your math is always right. It is significantly above 50%, might even be closer to 70%+.

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

Perfect. Thank you. As my follow-up, you talked about, you know, how diversified the AI business or the AI data center business is. You mentioned the number of customers and so on and so forth. But could you also talk a little bit about how, you know, how the design-in process works here? You mentioned that you are a preferred supplier in many platforms. I also believe you have some reference designs with the processor company. So help me just understand a little bit, you know, how the design-in process works as you continue to ramp this business.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah. So, the design-in process obviously can happen either with the semiconductor company that's a supplier of GPUs, CPUs, or it can be directly with people who do accelerator cards, active cables, and so on. So it is with those people, but then it's a complex supply chain, as you know. There are ODMs, there are, you know, and then there are contract manufacturers, and then there are the consumers of the product itself, you know, whether they are, that's an AWS or whether that's a Google. So for SiTime, even though the design win occurs at one place, we have to support everybody along the way, and that's what makes it particularly complex, selling the value proposition of SiTime or articulating the value proposition of SiTime all through the supply chain.

It's gratifying to be able to see that that value proposition is understood and accepted for SiTime. And the value proposition, of course, is around performance, around environmental resilience, but it's also around supply chain. One of the things that we see quite clearly is that the quick ramp, as you have seen some of the providers like AMD and NVIDIA, have mentioned that they have a particularly aggressive rate of new product introduction. If SiTime is to be a major supplier in this, we have to match that. That means we have to accelerate even further our product development in these markets. And so that's exactly what we have decided to do, and that's exactly what we're doing.

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

That, that's great insight. Just one last one on Aura. So it sounds like Aura is already starting to, you know, contribute to your revenue and growth and so on and so forth. I was just wondering, does that change at all, sort of, the payment terms for the acquisition, or should we still assume that the timing of the-

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

of the payments are still the same?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah, I think the timing of the payments remains the same. I think what the Aura products do, for example, the network synchronizer that I mentioned in my prepared remarks, that is a very complex product, and it has a long design win, design-in cycle, and it takes a while to ramp up. I mean, we're not in any volume with that of any particular note, and will not be outside of the payment cycle. So in other words, whatever we have indicated in the past for, payouts to Aura based on revenue, will probably likely be still the case.

Beth Howe (CFO)

And Tory, to add to that-

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

Thank you, Rajesh. Yeah.

Beth Howe (CFO)

Hey, Tory, just to add to that.

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

Thank you.

Beth Howe (CFO)

The $69 million I referenced this quarter is overwhelmingly the next payments for the assets. As you may recall, when we did the deal back in December, we said we would be acquiring the die over time in 2024 and actually in 2025 as well. So many of the deliverables for 2024 occurred in Q2, hence the cash payment. We've got one more small one in Q3 beyond just the earn out. So the vast majority of that was part of the transaction that was expected to occur in 2024.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

To just put in a plug for the Aura acquisition, all of it is integrated. All the products are coming over as we expected, and I really must commend the Aura team. I think they have shown exceptional professionalism and cooperation in transferring these products. And with the team integration, I think I honestly can't believe that it could have gone any better. And the performance of their products is equal to or better than we expected. All of this we understood when we did the acquisition, but now we see clear evidence that it was clearly the right thing to do with the right group of people.

Tore Svanberg (Analyst)

That's all great color. Thank you so much.

Beth Howe (CFO)

As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Our next question comes from the line of Suji Desilva of Roth Capital. Your line is now open.

Suji Desilva (Analyst)

Hi, Rajesh. Hi, Beth. Congrats on the progress here. Just to follow up on Tory's last question, somewhat, just to clarify, these Aura wins you have in CED, are those-- were those secured post-acquisition, or were those-- did those exist, design wins, pre-acquisition? And just to understand, you know, if pre-acquisition, have any wins been secured post-acquisition, or is it the combined product? Just any color that are available.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

... Yeah, I think those are definitely post-acquisition because the network synchronization product, for example, was an important one that came across. There are some buffers in there that were pretty important as well into different markets, not the data center market necessarily. So all of these have been very quick and very brief, but the revenue, of course, still takes a little bit of time, Suji.

Suji Desilva (Analyst)

No, that's fair. Just wanted to clarify that part. And then more broadly, I mean, I think, you know, you're gaining traction here in the data center. Can you—I'm presuming reliability, you know, lifetime between failures is probably the main thing attracting these data centers. So, you know, clarify if that's, you know, my assumption there is correct. And if so, do you have any metrics around, you know, how much less frequently you fail than, say, a quartz-based solution?

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah, we do. In general, we have a FIT rate, which is about 1/100th that of quartz, in general.

Suji Desilva (Analyst)

Mm-hmm.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

But in specific products, it may vary, because, for example, OCXOs in the quartz world have a particularly more a tough time in performance across change of of environment. But to, to be very specific about your question, it's less the reliability, which always, of course, comes into play, as does the supply chain, but it more has to do with performance. At the end of the day, everybody's performance hungry. I threw out a certain number of of performance areas, frequency, jitter, phase noise, stability, and of course, environmental resilience, which doesn't sound like performance, but it is the environment. It's the, it's the, it's the, it's the cloud under which all these products must work.

So you can always get a phase noise at a certain stability, but under a tough environmental condition of, say, temperature spiking or airflow, that may degrade dramatically, unlike SiTime products. So that's where we win. That's where our customers have agreed that we are superior, and some of them have decided to exclusively deal with SiTime, and some of them have gone a step further and have decided to define products with us for coming generations. So that, of course, gives us a significant viewpoint into the customer, and it was always thus. This is what we always wanted. This is what all semiconductor companies do. This is what, you know, typical SoC companies do, and that's all we're doing. We're connecting with our best customers and solving tough problems for them, which otherwise they would not solve.

Suji Desilva (Analyst)

Okay. Thanks for the insight, Rajesh.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yep.

Operator (participant)

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton of Needham & Company. Your line is now open.

Quinn Bolton (Analyst)

Hi, Rajesh. Hi, Beth. Wanted to add my congratulations. Wanted to come back to the gross margin and just try to get a better understanding of sort of the new product ramp issues. Are these new products, is it kind of new analog die, new MEMS die, that you just have to come up the yield curve? Are there new package types? You know, sort of surprised, given, you know, how much revenue is increasing quarter to quarter that you're not seeing a higher margin lift. And I guess a sort of follow-up to that is, I just wanted to make sure you guys aren't seeing any changes in pricing at the customers.

There's no particular mix shift to, say, mobile IoT or no new product ramps from large consumer companies that may be skewing the mix here in the second half of the year.

Beth Howe (CFO)

Hey, Quinn, this is Beth. So as we look at it, you rattled off MEMS, CMOS packaging. It's really all of the above, as we think about these new products into multiple markets. Rajesh has talked a bit about the AI markets, and so we're clearly launching a lot of new products there. I expect over time we'll see those yields improve. We also look at, from time to time, the mix of equipment purchases, whether we, you know, we purchase the equipment or whether the OSAT does, and that, again, you pay for it either way.

But, you know, looking at that as well as we think about the cost of bring up, we, you know, kind of every product we evaluate that mix of how much equipment we're investing versus the OSATs, and typically, we both invest there. But nothing unusual. It's just as we've got so many new products coming into mass production, that's really what's driving it.

Quinn Bolton (Analyst)

So, it sounds like there may be some... You know, given if you're purchasing some of that equipment, there may be a little bit higher fixed cost coming into the cost of goods line, that as you grow from here, you'll get absorption on that, but it serves as a headwind in the near term, given the ramp of those new products.

Beth Howe (CFO)

I think that's a fair assessment, and we look at that and evaluate the economics on a, you know, product-by-product basis, where we think it makes more sense to make some investment or share the investment versus have it come through on a unit basis as the products are assembled by the OSATs.

Quinn Bolton (Analyst)

Got it. Got it. And then a follow-up for Rajesh. You, you've talked for a couple of quarters now, about strength in the CED, and you gave us some color on content per application. But I guess I wanted to come back and see if you might be able to give us... I think you'd said, you know, dollar content in some of these CED applications could be $8-$25. Is that what you might get in an AI server? Is that what you would get in a switch? You've talked about optical modules, you've talked about AEC cables. I'm wondering, you know, could you give us a sense, is, is like an AEC cable or an optical module, is that like $1-$5 of content for a TCXO?

Could you give us some sense what you might get on a typical NIC card? Because it, you know, just trying to get a little bit more specificity on what the timing content is in some of these pretty high-volume applications. Thanks.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

... Yeah. So typically, the optical products tend to be lower in pricing, so they're closer to that $1 pricing rather than the $5 price. But when we in an Ethernet switch, when we sell a clock, which is anywhere from $5 to $10, and OCXO, which is anywhere from $15 to $25, it kind of adds up pretty quickly. Then it depends upon the consumption amount of these. So for example, some of the switches sell in tens of thousands, but we believe that the NIC cards, which may have a total content of $5 to $10, will probably increase at a faster rate in units over time.

The GPU boards, of course, and the CPU boards, we do well at, you know, in the, you know, the $10+ range, but then those are relatively limited in units. So where we flourish is when you get that sweet spot of higher ASPs and high-ish volumes rather than the lower volume and high number. Either way, when we look at the breadth of our design wins, CPU boards, GPU boards, switches, Ethernet switches, NIC cards, accelerator cards, optical modules, ACE cables, or active cables, I think it's astonishing that when AI sort of started to take up about a year ago, many of you asked us how we would perform in that, and if you recall, I said, "These are early days.

We're trying to see the market ourselves." What I'm gratified to see is that exactly what we saw happening has happened, which is that our customers' customers make huge, you know, $hundreds of billions, $tens of billions investment in the data centers, but then they want to keep on extracting more bandwidth, more utilization, more uptime, more synchronization, and that's where timing comes in, and that's why I'm very confident that even when the overall market... You know, there's been a lot of talk about commitment to dollars and CapEx by these large companies. I'm very confident that SiTime will continue to grow, even if it slackens off a bit, because this is a portion that will always get more money, and we will benefit from that.

Quinn Bolton (Analyst)

Got it. Thank you, Rajesh.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Yeah.

Operator (participant)

At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn it back to Rajesh Vashisht, CEO, for closing remarks.

Rajesh Vashist (CEO)

Well, thank you all very much for joining us. Very happy to see the upturn in SiTime as we promised it would happen in the second half, and we'll continue throughout the year and hopefully in the coming years. That's certainly at our design. Look forward to meeting you guys on the road. Talk to you soon. Thank you very much.

Operator (participant)

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect.