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Symbotic Inc. (SYM) Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q1 FY25 revenue of $486.7M grew 35% YoY; adj. EBITDA of $17.9M and GAAP net loss of $18.5M. Cash rose to $903.0M on strong collections; 44 systems in deployment and 29 completed sites at quarter-end .
  • Results came in within the revised Q1 guidance (issued after the November restatement) for revenue ($480–$500M) and slightly above on adj. EBITDA ($12–$16M), but below the original Q1 guide from Nov 18 ($495–$515M revenue, $27–$31M adj. EBITDA) .
  • Q2 FY25 outlook: revenue $510–$530M and adj. EBITDA $26–$30M, implying at least 30% YoY growth and sequential gross-margin improvement while absorbing higher OpEx from acquisitions and scaling .
  • Management emphasized improved execution (insourcing EPC, shorter lead-time initiatives), software margin strength (>65%), and long-term runway (backlog ~$22.4B; APD store-level automation via the completed Walmart ASR acquisition). Near-term headwind: operations services gross margin drag due to additional site support .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • Revenue +35% YoY with 44 systems in deployment; software revenue more than doubled YoY with software gross margins “over 65%” in the quarter .
    • Cash improved by $176M sequentially to $903M driven by AR collections; FCF $197.7M; adj. EBITDA $17.9M above the company’s internal forecast .
    • CEO on tech positioning and Walmart ASR: “we see this acquisition as giving Symbotic arguably the industry's strongest collection of products, talent and IP for supply chain automation” .
  • What Went Wrong

    • Operations Services posted a negative gross profit as Symbotic “invest[ed] in additional resources to ensure customer success”; management expects moderation from these elevated support levels but near‑term drag persists .
    • Gross margin below long-term targets; systems GM improvement is gradual and management does not expect systems margin to exceed 20% in 1H FY25 .
    • Internal control remediation continues after FY24 restatement; compensating controls and testing underway (no deficiencies noted in testing so far), but full remediation requires several sequential quarters .

Financial Results

Overall P&L and per-share

MetricQ3 FY24Q4 FY24Q1 FY25
Revenue ($USD Millions)$486.3 $564.6 $486.7
Gross Profit ($USD Millions)$70.9 $96.4 $80.0
Gross Profit Margin (%)14.6% 17.1% 16.4%
Net Income (Loss) ($USD Millions)$(10.7) $16.0 $(18.5)
EPS (Basic & Diluted, $)$(0.02) $0.03 $(0.03)
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)$18.7 $42.4 $17.9

Revenue mix

Revenue ($USD Millions)Q3 FY24Q4 FY24Q1 FY25
Systems$466.5 $536.4 $464.1
Software Maintenance & Support$3.5 $5.9 $5.5
Operation Services$16.2 $22.2 $17.1
Total Revenue$486.3 $576.8 / $564.6 $486.7

Cash and balance sheet highlights

  • Cash & Equivalents: $903.0M at Q1 FY25 end vs. $727.3M at Q4 FY24 end .
  • Free Cash Flow: $197.7M in Q1 FY25 (CFOA $205.0M; Capex $(7.4)M) .
  • Deferred revenue (current): $787.2M at Q1 FY25 end vs. $676.3M at Q4 FY24 end .

Non‑GAAP reconciliation (Q1 FY25)

  • Adjusted EBITDA of $17.9M adds back stock-based compensation $28.7M, D&A $6.9M, business combination expenses $3.8M, internal control remediation $3.1M, and equity-method investment $1.6M, among other items .
  • Adjusted gross profit $86.2M; Adj. GP margin 17.7% vs. GAAP 16.4% .

KPIs and backlog

KPIQ4 FY24Q1 FY25
Systems in Deployment44 44
Completed Sites25 29
Contracted Backlog~$22.4B ~$22.4B

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
RevenueQ1 FY25$495M–$515M (11/18/24) $480M–$500M (11/27/24) Lowered
Adj. EBITDAQ1 FY25$27M–$31M (11/18/24) $12M–$16M (11/27/24) Lowered
RevenueQ2 FY25$510M–$530M (2/5/25) Initiated
Adj. EBITDAQ2 FY25$26M–$30M (2/5/25) Initiated

Context/why:

  • The Q1 guide was reduced on Nov 27 due to identified revenue recognition errors and unbillable cost overruns that required FY24 corrections; company also disclosed material weaknesses and began remediation .
  • Q2 outlook embeds sequential gross-margin improvement but higher OpEx from acquisitions and scaling; modest early contribution from Walmart ASR development program .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicQ-2 (Q3 FY24)Q-1 (Q4 FY24)Current (Q1 FY25)Trend
Execution & EPC insourcingMargin pressure from elongated construction schedules Rebound to historical gross margin; record starts (9) and completes (4); begin EPC insourcing ramp Insourcing contractors completed work; first EPC-by-Symbotic systems within 1–2 quarters Improving execution; margin stabilizing
Software revenue/marginsScaling“Trend toward typical industry software margins” Software revenue doubled YoY; software GP >65% Positive mix shift
Operations ServicesMixedSlight negative margin as resources added Negative gross profit due to elevated site support; expected to moderate Near-term drag
Backlog & RPOBacklog ~$22.4B; Walmex adds in Q1 Backlog ~$22.4B; 11% RPO next 12 months in 10‑Q Stable, converting
Walmart ASR/APDAnnounced acquisition; strategic rationaleAcquisition closed; modest near-term revenue; ~$230M 1st year cash implies ~$200M revenue in FY25 (back‑loaded) Long-term accelerator
Lead times & cycleAverage system cycle ~24 months; path to shorten but takes time Gradual improvement
Tariffs & supply chainSteel pass‑through clauses China exposure immaterial; tariffs generally pass‑through; US-made components; some MX assembly Managed exposure
Controls remediationRestatement and controls review Compensating controls implemented; testing encouraging; multi-quarter remediation Progressing

Management Commentary

  • CEO strategy and tech positioning: “we see this [Walmart ASR] acquisition as giving Symbotic arguably the industry's strongest collection of products, talent and intellectual property for supply chain automation” .
  • CFO on Q1 drivers: revenue +35% YoY; recurring revenue up 80%+ YoY; software revenue doubled YoY; adj. EBITDA above internal forecast; cash up primarily from timing of receipts .
  • Margin roadmap: systems GM to improve gradually; “breaking 20% in the first half is optimistic”; software margin in 60s; Ops Services near-term drag .
  • Demand environment: more inquiries across categories; labor tightness supports automation demand; growing international interest (e.g., Walmex) .

Q&A Highlights

  • OpEx and scaling: Expect Q2 OpEx up $5–10M QoQ from growth investments and acquisitions; moderation thereafter between R&D and SG&A .
  • EPC insourcing: Contractors’ work completed ahead of schedule; first EPC-by-Symbotic systems to be completed “in the next quarter or so” .
  • Operations Services loss: Elevated resources to support large go‑lives; expect moderation but near-term drag persists .
  • Tariffs: Exposure to China immaterial; contracts generally allow pass‑through of tariffs/taxes; majority of products made in US; some bot assembly in Mexico .
  • Controls remediation: Compensating controls implemented (goods receipt, nonbillable cost recognition); testing showed no deficiencies; remediation requires several sequential quarters .
  • APD/Walmart ASR contribution: Modest Q2 revenue; FY25 back‑loaded; example framework “$230M cash drives ~$200M revenue” this year .

Estimates Context

  • S&P Global consensus estimates could not be retrieved at this time due to an access limit; therefore, comparison to consensus is unavailable. We benchmarked results to company guidance.
    • Actual Q1 FY25 revenue $486.7M vs. revised guide $480–$500M and initial guide $495–$515M .
    • Actual Q1 adj. EBITDA $17.9M vs. revised guide $12–$16M and initial $27–$31M .
  • Note: We attempted to pull Wall Street consensus from S&P Global but were unable to due to daily request limits; estimates unavailable.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Execution improving: backlog conversion steady, EPC insourcing progressing, and software margins scaling; near-term gross margin expansion remains measured, with systems margin unlikely to exceed 20% in 1H FY25 .
  • Mix is a tailwind: recurring software more than doubled YoY with >65% gross margins; as more sites go live, recurring revenue and margins should accrete .
  • Near-term drag manageable: operations services support costs weigh on gross margin but are strategic to ensure customer success and should moderate .
  • Cash and liquidity strong: $903M cash and positive Q1 FCF provide ample flexibility to fund R&D, integration of Walmart ASR, and scaling efforts .
  • Walmart ASR/APD is a long-term catalyst: modest FY25 revenue contribution but meaningful multi‑year opportunity as development transitions to scaled deployments .
  • Watch remediation and margin cadence: internal control remediation is progressing but needs multiple quarters; margin trajectory hinges on schedule adherence, cost controls, and ops services normalization .
  • Trading setup: Near-term stock drivers include Q2 margin progression vs. guide, EPC insourcing milestones, and any updates on GreenBox and APD development commercialization timeline .

Appendix: Additional Data

Selected Q1 FY25 non‑GAAP reconciliation items

ItemQ1 FY25 ($M)
Stock-based Compensation$28.741
Depreciation & Amortization$6.860
Business Combination Expenses$3.802
Internal Control Remediation$3.076
Equity Method Investment$1.564
Adjusted EBITDA$17.904

Restatement and revised Q1 guidance (Nov 27, 2024)

  • FY24 impact: lower system revenue, gross profit, income before tax, and adj. EBITDA by $30–$40M; Q1 FY25 revenue guide reduced to $480–$500M and adj. EBITDA to $12–$16M .

Backlog/RPO disclosure

  • Contracted backlog ~$22.4B; remaining performance obligation expected in next 12 months increased to ~11% per 10‑Q commentary on the call .

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