Q3 2024 Earnings Summary
Metric | Period | Previous Guidance | Current Guidance | Change |
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EPS | FY 2024 | $4.80 – $4.90 | $4.80 – $4.90 | no change |
Long-Term EPS Growth Rate | Long-term | no prior guidance | 6.5% – 7% | no prior guidance |
Dividend payout ratio | Long-term | no prior guidance | 65% – 70% | no prior guidance |
Capital Plan | 2025–2029 | no prior guidance | $28 billion | no prior guidance |
Load Growth | 2025–2029 | no prior guidance | 1,800 MW | no prior guidance |
Metric | Period | Guidance | Actual | Performance |
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EPS | Q3 2024 | $0.68 to $0.70 | $0.76 | Beat |
Topic | Previous Mentions | Current Period | Trend |
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Regulatory uncertainty in Wisconsin rate cases | Settlements and timing discussed with new PSC chair, split commission votes, and AFUDC denial. | Confidence in final decision soon, no settlement. Commission considered balanced. | Consistently mentioned; heightened optimism in Q3 about a balanced outcome. |
Regulatory challenges in Illinois | Discussed Safety Modernization Program denial, appeals, and shifting $800M out of Illinois. | Scaled back Illinois investment ($90M/year) due to ongoing program reviews and uncertain future of natural gas. | Topic consistently highlighted; continued cautious approach in Illinois. |
Load growth from large expansions | Microsoft and other large expansions driving strong load forecasts. Past references to Eli Lilly and Amazon expansions. | Cited 1,800 MW of incremental load, driven by Microsoft data center project and broader economic activity. | Recurring theme; forecast increased from earlier estimates (1,400 MW). |
Capital investments & rate base expansion | Previously at $23.7B focus, with expansions in regulated solar/gas and reallocation from Illinois. | Unveiled $28B plan (2025–2029), with $9.1B in renewables, $3.2B in transmission, aiming for 8.8% asset growth. | Consistent focus; plan size increased, emphasizing Wisconsin growth. |
Earnings guidance & EPS growth outlook | Guidance repeatedly reaffirmed (2024: $4.80–$4.90). Consistent long-term growth target. | Reaffirmed 2024 guidance ($4.80–$4.90). Maintained 6.5–7% long-term EPS CAGR, aided by ATC ROE adjustment. | Stable guidance; remains on track despite weather and regulatory factors. |
O&M expense management & cost control | Prior calls cited improved O&M outlook (2–3% or 3–5% increase) due to cost control and mild weather. | Not specifically detailed, higher O&M contributed to Q3 earnings drop. | Less emphasis in Q3; previously a key driver of earnings beats. |
Potential equity ratio increases (53.5%) | Previous references to filing for 53.5% in Wisconsin, but not yet modeled for added equity issuance. | No new mention of raising equity ratio to 53.5%. Company detailed equity issuance plans ($2.7–$3.2B over 5 years). | Not discussed in current period; earlier filings indicated possible higher ratio. |
Project delays (e.g., Delilah I Solar) | Delilah delayed 6 months by hail but targeted to finish by end of 2024. | Delilah on track for year-end completion; Maple Flats also on schedule. | Delays mentioned earlier; now back on track. |
One-time items (e.g., ATC ROE) | Prior quarters: No significant ATC ROE item mentioned except Q4 2023’s separate noncash charge in Illinois. | $0.05/share Q4 tailwind from ATC ROE adjustment to 10.48% offsets weather drag. | New positive factor; helps mitigate weather impacts. |
Point Beach PPA extension | Mentioned ongoing but not definitive. | Constructive talks with NextEra, contract expirations from 2030 to 2033; update expected in 6 months. | Continues to progress; details still not finalized. |
Increasing load forecasts (1,400→1,800 MW) | Previously cited 1,400 MW with consideration for further bumps. | Officially raised to 1,800 MW of incremental capacity needs. | Forecast increased; driven by data centers and EVs. |
Solar & renewables (300 MW w/PTCs) | Ongoing acquisitions in solar (High Noon, Delilah, Maple Flats). Emphasis on transitioning from coal. | Expanding portfolio: 2,900 MW solar, 900 MW wind, 600 MW storage in new plan. Selling $100–$200M tax credits annually. | Major acceleration; robust pipeline with PTC-driven economics. |
Redeployment of capital | Consistent theme of reallocating away from Illinois due to regulatory hurdles. | Scaling back Illinois ($800M fewer infrastructure dollars), focusing on Wisconsin utility growth. | Essentially unchanged; continues pivot to friendlier jurisdictions. |
Weakness in large C&I sales | Declines noted in Q4 2023 (-3.3% in WI) and Q1 2024 in metals/paper. | No mention in current period. | Topic not raised in Q3; previously a mild concern. |
MISO expansion (Tranche 2) | Expected to be larger than Tranche 1; spending around 2030 or later. | Likely beyond current 5-year plan; minimal near-term spending. | Ongoing but mostly post-2029. |
Potential settlement failures | Historically, negotiations timed post-staff audit. Chair open to stakeholder input. | No settlement in WI rate case but management expects neutral-to-positive commission ruling. | Still relevant; no settlement seen as not necessarily negative. |
Decarbonization & sustainability | Emphasis on retiring coal, building solar & battery storage, plus leveraging IRA tax credits. | $9.1B in renewables, LNG for reliability, 80% carbon reduction goal. | Continued prioritization; plan expanded in Q3. |
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EPS Growth Guidance
Q: Will you raise EPS growth rate in December?
A: Scott Lauber said they are comfortable with the current 6.5% to 7% EPS growth guidance, considering the added capital in Wisconsin offset by reductions elsewhere. They need to get through the Wisconsin rate case and hear about the Safety Modernization Program in Illinois before updating guidance. -
Load Growth Outlook
Q: What's the percentage load growth forecast now?
A: Scott Lauber stated they expect 4.5% to 5% electric sales growth through 2029 on a megawatt-hour basis. On a megawatt basis, they're adding 1,800 MW, a 20% increase over their system's base of 7,500 MW, driven by economic development. -
CapEx Reallocation
Q: Why reduce CapEx in infrastructure segment?
A: Scott Lauber explained they reduced capital in the infrastructure segment due to the amount of economic development, focusing instead on investing within the regulated utility in Wisconsin. The last contract announced fills the $800 million they committed to, and they have a lot of capital deployment opportunities in Wisconsin. -
Wisconsin Rate Base Growth
Q: What's the rate base growth outlook in Wisconsin?
A: Scott Lauber indicated Wisconsin rate base growth will be between 14% and 15%, significantly driven by economic development. A large portion of the capital is growth capital, supported by large customers paying for increased demand. -
Illinois CapEx Potential
Q: Is there upside in Illinois CapEx plan?
A: Scott Lauber mentioned that if Option 3 is selected in Illinois, it could be an upside of $100 million to $200 million per year. Currently, they've reduced capital to about $90 million per year for emergency work and facility relocates. -
Wisconsin Rate Case Status
Q: Why no settlement in Wisconsin rate case?
A: Scott Lauber stated they are comfortable with the commission going through the case and deciding. They didn't reach a settlement, but he's not concerned, as the commission comprises balanced individuals who understand the importance of reliability and economic development. -
Gas Generation and LNG
Q: How does added gas generation affect LNG operations?
A: Scott Lauber said they are adding more gas generation and another 2 Bcf of LNG storage to ensure dispatchable gas within Wisconsin. This addition is critical for reliability, especially during cold days or supply disruptions. -
2025 Funding Needs
Q: How will you address 2025 equity needs?
A: Liu Xia explained they plan to use employee benefit plans and the ATM to handle equity needs. They do not plan a block sale, and tax credits are included in the FFO. -
CapEx Details Clarification
Q: What's the extra $700 million in generation CapEx?
A: Scott Lauber noted the additional $700 million is allocated to various projects, including upgrading a wind farm to gain production tax credits, enhancing resilience at generating plants, and exploring backup storage options. -
Microsoft's Impact on CapEx
Q: Does CapEx include potential Microsoft spend?
A: Scott Lauber confirmed the plan includes 1,800 MW of capacity over the 5-year period, accounting for Microsoft's needs and other economic development. Further upside from any additional phases by Microsoft would be in the outer years of the plan. -
Point Beach PPA Progress
Q: What's the status of Point Beach PPA?
A: Scott Lauber said the PPA with Point Beach ends in December 2030 and March 2033. They've been in constructive discussions with NextEra, making good progress, expecting more in the next six months. -
Reserve Margins and Coal Retirements
Q: Will reserve margins affect coal retirements?
A: Scott Lauber stated that gas generation is critical for dispatchable capacity. They plan to retire coal units as scheduled, with no significant adjustments. Carbon capture isn't viable due to lack of storage options and high costs. -
Earnings Guidance and ATC ROE
Q: Why not raise guidance with ATC ROE increase?
A: Scott Lauber explained they are comfortable keeping guidance as things move around in their forecast. Liu Xia added that they had a mild first quarter, being $0.06 behind due to weather, and the ATC ROE helps offset that deficit. -
Rate Increase Outlook
Q: What's the rate increase outlook with new CapEx?
A: Scott Lauber mentioned that rate increases will be in line with inflation, possibly 1% above due to reliability projects. Economic development will help offset impacts on customers, as large customers understand they need to pay their fair share.
Research analysts covering WEC ENERGY GROUP.