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    The Walt Disney Company is a global entertainment conglomerate that operates through three main segments: Entertainment, Sports, and Experiences. The company offers a wide range of products and services, including streaming platforms, television channels, theme parks, resorts, and consumer products. Disney generates revenue from subscription fees, advertising, affiliate fees, theatrical distribution, theme park admissions, and merchandise sales, making it a significant player in the entertainment and leisure industries .

    1. Entertainment - Offers linear networks and direct-to-consumer services such as Disney+, Hulu, and Disney+ Hotstar, along with content sales and licensing, including theatrical, TV/VOD, and home entertainment distribution.
    2. Experiences - Operates domestic and international theme parks and resorts, Disney Cruise Line, and consumer products, generating revenue from admissions, vacations, merchandise licensing, and retail sales.
    3. Sports - Focuses on ESPN-branded television channels and ESPN+ direct-to-consumer service, with additional offerings from Star-branded sports channels in India, earning revenue through affiliate fees, advertising, and subscriptions.
    Initial Price$102.02June 28, 2024
    Final Price$96.01September 28, 2024
    Price Change$-6.01
    % Change-5.89%

    What went well

    • Disney's streaming business is experiencing strong growth, with a total of 174 million Disney+ core and Hulu subscriptions, and more than 120 million core Disney+ subscribers built in five years . The introduction of an ESPN tile on Disney+ on December 4 aims to drive further engagement and strengthen their streaming offering .
    • The company is confident in achieving double-digit margins in its direct-to-consumer segment by fiscal 2026 . This will be driven by subscriber growth, price increases aligned with value, improved engagement and reduced churn through personalization and anti-password sharing initiatives in over 130 countries, and increased ad monetization .
    • Disney's Parks and Experiences segment continues to be the gold standard, with plans for significant expansions, including the launch of the Disney Treasure next week, growing Disney Cruise Line's fleet to six ships with seven additional ships currently in development . The company is seeing a strengthening consumer in domestic parks and expects international softness to be temporary .

    What went wrong

    • Consumer softness in international parks, particularly in Shanghai, may impact growth in the international parks segment.
    • Competitors are expanding local content more aggressively, which could lead to less engagement for Disney in local markets due to limited investment in local language content.
    • The company's growth strategy is tilted towards pricing increases rather than subscriber growth, which may risk subscriber churn as incremental subscriber additions become challenging.

    Q&A Summary

    1. DTC Margin Outlook
      Q: Can you share confidence in achieving strong double-digit margins in DTC by fiscal '26?
      A: We are confident in reaching strong double-digit margins in direct-to-consumer by fiscal '26 due to significant improvements in our streaming products and continued investments in parks, cruise ships, and consumer products. These investments are multiyear, and we've modeled this growth carefully. While it's early to discuss ARPU for the ESPN flagship, we expect it to contribute positively in '26 and plan to recoup initial investments relatively quickly.

    2. Advertising Growth Outlook
      Q: What's the outlook on consolidated advertising growth in coming years?
      A: We expect advertising growth to be at or stronger than the 3% seen in 2024 as we enter 2025. Our proprietary ad tech stack enhances our ability to deliver effective ads, particularly in streaming, giving us a competitive advantage. The combination of linear and streaming offerings provides leverage, offering advertisers a broader reach. Linear remains strong due to live content and a differentiated audience.

    3. Streaming Growth Drivers
      Q: Is streaming growth driven more by subscribers or pricing in 2025?
      A: Streaming growth will come from both subscriber additions and pricing, slightly tilted towards pricing. We'll monitor the market and adjust accordingly but currently expect a balance of both. Moving consumers to our advertiser-supported tier is also key, with 60% of new U.S. subscribers choosing AVOD, comprising 37% of total U.S. subs and 30% globally.

    4. Content Spending Plans
      Q: How will content spending grow in '25 and beyond?
      A: We have a strong content pipeline and plan selective international investments in EMEA and APAC markets. We've slowed investments until our technology improvements reduce churn, increasing content ROI. These investments won't be enormous, and most content has global applications, reducing the need for extensive local spending.

    5. ESPN Flagship Launch
      Q: What will the ESPN flagship product offer to fans?
      A: The ESPN flagship will be an enhanced experience with live sports, studio shows, commentary, and features like fully integrated betting. Applying technology allows for an AI-driven personalized SportsCenter and tailored sports experiences. Live sports remain highly attractive to advertisers, and our advanced ad tech will amplify value in an app-based world.

    6. Managing Linear Decline
      Q: How are you managing the linear network's decline?
      A: We anticipate linear networks to continue declining but have a natural hedge with roughly 175 million streaming consumers. Whether consumers stay linear or shift to streaming, we're well-positioned to monetize them. Our distribution deals, like the unique agreement with DIRECTV, are bespoke and crafted per partner situation.

    7. India Divestiture Impact
      Q: What's the impact of divesting assets in India?
      A: We're excited about the deal with Reliance, retaining a high 30% ownership stake. Reliance will manage the business, and we have included the anticipated closing in our guidance. For detailed financial implications, investors can refer to our Investor Relations team.

    8. Epic Universe Competition
      Q: How will Universal's Epic Universe affect Disney's parks?
      A: We've modeled the Epic Universe launch into our experiences outlook and expect positive bookings next summer. Historically, new attractions at other parks have been beneficial to us. This is reflected in the guidance we've provided.

    9. Parks Performance Outlook
      Q: Is domestic park softness behind you, and what about international growth?
      A: We feel the domestic consumer is strengthening, and we expect gradual improvement going forward. Internationally, softness was due to the Olympics in Paris affecting attendance and temporary consumer softness in Shanghai, which we expect to rebound.

    10. Guidance Approach
      Q: How should we view your approach to guidance?
      A: Our guidance reflects significant investments in DTC and experiences. Providing a multiyear outlook is appropriate due to these multiyear investments. We have confidence in delivering on our guidance and believe it's important to set investor expectations accordingly.

    Guidance Changes

    Annual guidance for FY 2025:

    • Adjusted EPS Growth: High single-digit growth in FY 2025 (no prior guidance)
    • Experiences Operating Income (OI): 6 to 8% growth for the year (no prior guidance)
    • Streaming Business: Significant growth expected with ESPN tile on Disney+ and ESPN's direct-to-consumer offering (no prior guidance)
    • Parks and Cruise Ships: Investments expected to contribute to growth with expansions and new ships (no prior guidance)
    • Subscriber Growth and Pricing: Growth from a balance of subscriber growth and pricing, slightly tilted towards pricing (no prior guidance)
    • Content Pipeline: Promising content slate for 2025 expected to drive growth (no prior guidance)
    • India Divestiture: Anticipated closure of the deal with Reliance (no prior guidance)

    No overlapping metrics were found between the Q3 2024 and Q4 2024 issued periods, so none were raised, lowered, or kept the same.

    NamePositionStart DateShort Bio
    Robert A. IgerChief Executive OfficerNovember 20, 2022Robert A. Iger is the CEO of The Walt Disney Company. He previously served as Executive Chairman and CEO from September 2005 to February 2020, and as Chairman of the Board from 2012 to 2021 .
    Hugh F. JohnstonSenior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial OfficerDecember 4, 2023Hugh F. Johnston joined Disney as CFO in December 2023. He previously held leadership roles at PepsiCo, including EVP and CFO from 2010 and Vice Chairman from 2015 to November 2023 .
    Horacio E. GutierrezSenior Executive Vice President, Chief Legal and Compliance OfficerDecember 21, 2023Horacio E. Gutierrez was appointed as Chief Legal and Compliance Officer in December 2023. He joined Disney as General Counsel in February 2022 and was Chief Compliance Officer from March 2023 .
    Sonia L. ColemanSenior Executive Vice President and Chief Human Resources OfficerApril 8, 2023Sonia L. Coleman became Chief Human Resources Officer in April 2023. She previously served as SVP, Human Resources at Disney General Entertainment and ESPN from August 2021 .
    Kristina K. SchakeSenior Executive Vice President and Chief Communications OfficerJune 29, 2022Kristina K. Schake was appointed Chief Communications Officer in June 2022. She previously served as EVP, Global Communications starting in April 2022 .
    Bob ChapekFormer Chief Executive OfficerFebruary 24, 2020Bob Chapek served as CEO from February 2020 until November 2022. His contract was extended in July 2022, but he was terminated without cause in November 2022 .
    James P. GormanChairman of the BoardJanuary 2, 2025James P. Gorman will become Chairman of the Board in January 2025. He joined Disney's Board in 2024 and is the Executive Chairman of Morgan Stanley until December 2024 .
    Kevin A. LansberryInterim Chief Financial OfficerJuly 1, 2023Kevin A. Lansberry was appointed Interim CFO in July 2023. He previously served as EVP and CFO of Disney's Parks, Experiences and Products segment from March 2018 .
    Carolyn N. EversonDirector2022Carolyn N. Everson has been a Director since 2022. She has extensive experience in marketing solutions and global sales from her roles at Instacart, Meta Platforms, and Microsoft .
    1. Despite focusing on strengthening your core business with high-quality content, how do you plan to balance the need for selective investments in international markets, notably EMEA and APAC, without significantly disrupting cash flow or overall company performance?
    2. With the continued decline in linear networks, what specific strategies are you implementing to manage this business over the next several years, and how will you mitigate its impact on Disney's overall financial health?
    3. As you prepare to launch ESPN's flagship direct-to-consumer offering in early fall 2025, how will you address potential integration challenges of live sports and betting features to ensure a compelling and personalized customer experience while driving subscriber growth?
    4. Given the competitive landscape and the importance of live sports to advertisers, how confident are you in achieving advertising growth stronger than the 3% seen in 2024, especially considering the shift from linear to streaming platforms and your recent investments in ad tech?
    5. Considering your guidance for high single-digit adjusted EPS growth in fiscal 2025 and acceleration to double-digit growth in fiscal 2026 and '27, what are the key risks that could hinder these projections, and what measures are you taking to address them?
    Program DetailsProgram 1
    Approval DateFebruary 7, 2024
    End Date/DurationNo expiration date
    Total additional amount400 million shares
    Remaining authorization amount372 million shares (as of September 28, 2024)
    DetailsTarget of $3 billion in repurchases for fiscal 2024

    Q4 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q4 2024
    • Guided Period: FY 2025
    • Guidance:
      1. Adjusted EPS Growth: High single-digit growth in FY 2025, accelerating to double-digit growth in FY 2026 and FY 2027 .
      2. Experiences Operating Income (OI): 6 to 8% growth for the year, with Q1 negatively impacted by hurricanes and prelaunch costs .
      3. Streaming Business: Significant growth expected with ESPN tile on Disney+ and ESPN's direct-to-consumer offering in early fall 2025 .
      4. Parks and Cruise Ships: Investments expected to contribute to growth with expansions and new ships .
      5. Subscriber Growth and Pricing: Growth from a balance of subscriber growth and pricing, slightly tilted towards pricing .
      6. Content Pipeline: Promising content slate for 2025 expected to drive growth .
      7. India Divestiture: Anticipated closure of the deal with Reliance .

    Q3 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q3 2024
    • Guided Period: Q4 2024 and FY 2025
    • Guidance:
      1. Free Cash Flow: $8 billion for the year .
      2. Parks and Experiences: Flattish revenue for Q4, with expenses from new cruise ships affecting fiscal 2024 and 2025 .
      3. Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) Margins: Working towards double-digit margins, driven by price increases, bundling, and password sharing efforts .
      4. Experiences Segment: Flattish revenue in Q4 due to ongoing trends and one-time costs .

    Q2 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q2 2024
    • Guided Period: Q3 2024 and FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      1. Adjusted EPS Growth: Raised full-year target to 25% .
      2. Streaming Business Profitability: Expected profitability in Q4 of fiscal 2024, with further improvements in fiscal 2025 .
      3. Disney+ Core ARPU: Expected continued growth due to price increases .
      4. Entertainment DTC: Forecasted loss in Q3, with subscriber growth returning in Q4 .
      5. Experiences Operating Income: Robust growth expected for the full year, with Q3 comparable to the prior year .
      6. Free Cash Flow: Over $8 billion expected for the fiscal year .
      7. Cost Efficiency Initiatives: Positioned to exceed $7.5 billion annualized target .

    Q1 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q1 2024
    • Guided Period: Q2 2024 and FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      1. Revenue and Operating Income: Sequential growth in Q2 2024, with streaming profitability expected in Q4 of fiscal 2024 .
      2. Subscriber Growth: Net additions of 5.5 to 6 million in Q2, with domestic net adds around 7.5 million .
      3. Disney+ Core ARPU: Expected increase due to price increases .
      4. Cost Savings: On pace to meet or exceed $7.5 billion annualized cost target by the end of fiscal 2024 .
      5. Earnings Per Share: Full-year fiscal 2024 EPS expected to increase by at least 20% to approximately $4.60 .
      6. Free Cash Flow: About $8 billion expected for the fiscal year .