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    Dun & Bradstreet Holdings Inc (DNB)

    Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Feb 21, 2025 (Before Market Open)
    Pre-Earnings Price$10.53Last close (Feb 19, 2025)
    Post-Earnings Price$9.89Open (Feb 20, 2025)
    Price Change
    $-0.64(-6.08%)
    • Management expects to achieve 5% to 7% organic revenue growth in less than three years, driven by completed client migrations to modern platforms and an emphasis on vertical-specific solutions.
    • The company is experiencing strong demand for its AI solutions, having sold around 25 Chat D&B instances, indicating potential for accelerated growth in AI-driven products.
    • Dun & Bradstreet is shifting towards more ratable revenue models, aiming to increase ratable revenue from 75% towards 85% to 90%, which is expected to improve revenue predictability and stability.
    • The ongoing strategic review process and potential sale of the company are causing distractions among clients and employees, leading to delayed deals and impacting revenue growth. In Q4 2024, deals worth $9 million were delayed due to clients holding off on agreements, and this is expected to continue affecting Q1 2025 revenues. ,
    • The company expects first-quarter 2025 revenues to be at the low end of their guidance range due to these disruptions, indicating continued challenges in revenue growth and potential difficulties in meeting full-year targets. ,
    • The projected revenue growth for 2025 is between 2.5% to 5%, showing little acceleration from the 3% organic growth achieved in 2024, suggesting that the company's growth prospects may be limited despite significant transformational efforts. ,
    MetricYoY ChangeReason

    Total Revenue

    +0.24% (from $630.4M to $631.9M)

    Stable revenue reflects offsetting performance—despite a slight decline in North America, stronger International growth helped keep overall sales nearly flat, indicating balanced market conditions across regions.

    Operating Income

    +23.5% (from $63.8M to $78.9M)

    Operating income surged primarily due to strong cost management, notably a significant reduction in SG&A expenses, which more than compensated for nearly flat revenue, demonstrating effective company-specific initiatives to improve operating efficiency.

    Net Income

    Turned positive from a loss ($7.8M vs. -$0.7M)

    Net income improvement stems from the higher operating income and better expense control, turning a previous period loss into a profit despite minimal changes in revenue, indicating enhanced overall financial discipline.

    SG&A Expenses

    -12% (from $190.5M to $167.1M)

    A reduction in SG&A expenses of about 12% reflects focused cost-reduction efforts, such as lower personnel and overhead costs, which contributed significantly to the margin improvement in the current period.

    COGS

    +5.7% (from $223.6M to $236.0M)

    COGS increased by 5.7%, likely due to rising production costs, including higher data, cloud infrastructure, or supply chain-related expenses, signaling cost pressures despite stable revenue.

    North America Revenue

    -1.8% (from $456.8M to $448.6M)

    North America revenue declined slightly by 1.8%, potentially reflecting market saturation or tougher domestic competition, which contrasts with international growth trends.

    International Revenue

    +5.6% (from $173.6M to $183.3M)

    International revenue increased by 5.6%, driven by robust sales in emerging and foreign markets, which offset domestic declines and benefited from favorable foreign exchange conditions.

    Interest Expense

    +8.5% (reaching $58.1M)

    Interest expense rose by 8.5%, primarily due to higher financing costs and increased effective interest rates, indicating external market conditions and debt profile changes impacting the cost of borrowing.

    MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange

    Total Revenues

    FY 2025

    $2,400M–$2,440M

    $2,440M–$2,500M

    raised

    Organic Constant Currency Revenue Growth

    FY 2025

    4.1%–5.1%

    3%–5%

    lowered

    Adjusted EBITDA

    FY 2025

    $930M–$950M

    $955M–$985M

    raised

    Adjusted EPS

    FY 2025

    $1.00–$1.04

    $1.01–$1.07

    raised

    Adjusted Interest Expense

    FY 2025

    ~$215M

    ~$200M

    lowered

    Depreciation and Amortization Expense

    FY 2025

    $130M–$140M

    $160M–$170M

    raised

    Adjusted Effective Tax Rate

    FY 2025

    ~22%–23%

    ~22%–23%

    no change

    Weighted Average Diluted Shares Outstanding

    FY 2025

    ~436M

    ~438M

    raised

    CapEx – Internally Developed Software

    FY 2025

    $150M–$160M

    ~$145M–$155M

    lowered

    CapEx – Property, Plant & Equipment and Purchased Software

    FY 2025

    $45M

    $45M

    no change

    MetricPeriodGuidanceActualPerformance
    Revenue
    FY 2024
    $2,400M to $2,440M
    $2,381.7M (sum of 564.5, 576.2, 609.1, 631.9)
    Missed
    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Organic Revenue Growth Targets

    Consistently discussed in Q1–Q3 with targets in the 4.1%–7% range and detailed performance drivers ( )

    Q4 reaffirmed 5%–7% midterm target and introduced updated 2025 guidance with lower near‐term targets ( )

    Steady emphasis with slight recalibration of near‐term guidance, reflecting consistent optimism with cautious adjustments

    Client Migrations and Cloud Platform Modernization

    Covered in Q1–Q3 with ongoing migrations, early cloud transformation efforts, and transitional margin impacts ( )

    Q4 showcased major client migrations completed and nearly finished cloud migration, emphasizing long‑term strategic benefits ( )

    Strong progress and completion, indicating a shift from transitional challenges to scalable, long‑term value creation

    AI and Generative AI Solutions

    In Q1, early-stage initiatives with IBM and Google were highlighted; Q2 and Q3 detailed development of Chat D&B and generative AI trials ( )

    Q4 emphasized strong client demand for Chat D&B and integration of generative AI into solutions, underlining data quality as a differentiator ( )

    Momentum continues to build with growing client adoption and enhanced integration, reflecting increasing strategic importance

    Ratable Revenue Model Transition

    Mentioned in Q3 for Finance Solutions (with little or no mention in Q1/Q2) ( )

    Q4 detailed progress in migrating clients to ratable revenue models and outlined near-to-midterm percentage targets ( )

    A topic that has emerged or gained focus in later periods, indicating a renewed emphasis on revenue visibility and stability

    Strategic Review and Potential Sale Distractions

    Q3 discussions highlighted inbound acquisition interest and sale process distractions; Q2 touched on strategic options for underperforming segments ( )

    Q4 described tangible distractions impacting deal closures and revenue timing, with notable revenue delays ( )

    Increasingly prominent, with intensified discussions that have a tangible impact on sales timing and near-term performance

    Sales Cycle Lengthening and Delayed Deals

    Q1 commentary described sales cycles as “consistent,” while Q3 already noted some lengthening due to market and process factors ( )

    Q4 detailed significant deal delays (e.g. $9 million impact) and client hesitations driven by ongoing strategic distractions ( )

    A worsening sentiment with clearly lengthening sales cycles and delayed deals emerging as a drag on revenue recognition

    Underperforming Digital Marketing and Credibility Segments

    Q1 reported softness (tough Q1 2023 comparisons); Q2 showed pronounced declines with remediation efforts; Q3 noted slight recovery in both segments ( )

    Q4 showed signs of improvement in digital marketing and robust performance in credibility initiatives, with initiatives like money‑back guarantees boosting sentiment ( )

    A turnaround trend, where earlier underperformance is gradually mitigated by targeted initiatives and renewed client interest

    Financial Leverage and Margin Pressures

    Consistent discussions in Q1–Q3 on leverage ratios around 3.7x, margin pressures due to cloud and innovation investments, and cost management efforts ( )

    Q4 reported a net leverage of 3.6x, continuing margin pressures yet with expectations for margin expansion in 2025 ( )

    A stable focus area with gradual deleveraging and cautious optimism over future margin improvements despite ongoing cost pressures

    Expansion into Connected TV, Retail Media, and Social Media

    Q2 highlighted these as emerging channels to diversify digital marketing solutions in a cookie-less environment ( )

    No mention in Q4 earnings call

    This topic has fallen out of focus in recent periods, indicating it may no longer be a priority or is being de-emphasized

    Third Party Risk Management, Compliance, and Master Data Management

    Q1 through Q3 consistently showed strong growth, major contract wins, and robust performance in these solutions ( )

    Q4 continued to emphasize robust growth in Europe and key client wins, with these solutions remaining key growth drivers ( )

    Maintaining a positive, consistent growth driver with recurring strong performance and expanding market opportunities

    Strategic Partnerships for AI and Innovation

    Q1 noted explicit partnerships with IBM and Google; Q2 and Q3 further highlighted additional innovations and external collaborations ( )

    Q4 focused more on product integration such as Chat D&B, with fewer explicit mentions of new external partnerships ( )

    A slight de‐emphasis on new partnerships in Q4, though innovation remains core; sentiment shifts towards leveraging internal integration rather than announcing new partner deals

    Macroeconomic and Technological Change Challenges

    Not mentioned in Q1; Q2 and Q3 discussed the impact on digital marketing spend, sales cycles, and the need for cloud and AI investments ( )

    Q4 discussions indirectly referenced economic and technological factors through mentions of strategic adjustments and technology investments ( )

    An emerging and evolving focus from Q2 onward, reflecting ongoing external pressures and the company’s strategic responses to technological change

    1. Strategic Review Process
      Q: Why consider selling DNB now?
      A: Management stated they were approached by interested parties and are exploring options that maximize shareholder value. They remain confident in achieving 5%-7% organic growth in less than three years without needing to sell the company.

    2. Impact of Strategic Review on Revenue
      Q: How has the strategic review affected revenue?
      A: The ongoing strategic review caused distractions, leading to delays in deal closures as clients awaited the outcome. This resulted in revenue pushouts from Q4 2024 into early 2025, impacting guidance. Management has factored these effects into forecasts and expects resolution in Q1 2025.

    3. Partnership Exits Impact
      Q: What's the financial impact of exiting partnerships?
      A: Exiting certain non-strategic partnerships led to a $6 million revenue impact in Q4 2024 and an expected $14 million impact in 2025, with a positive effect on EBITDA in 2025. No further exits are anticipated.

    4. Growth Outlook
      Q: Can you achieve 5%-7% organic growth?
      A: Management is confident they can reach 5%-7% organic growth without taking three years. They expect growth acceleration as clients adopt modern platforms, with transformations largely completed.

    5. Direct Sales Strategy
      Q: Are you shifting to direct sales over alliances?
      A: D&B is focusing on direct client engagement, leveraging their capabilities to capture more economics, while remaining open to complementary alliances that make financial sense.

    6. Demand Environment
      Q: How is the sales pipeline and demand?
      A: Demand is strong with consistent pipelines, but the strategic review has caused some client hesitation and internal distractions. Management expects these issues to resolve after the process concludes in Q1 2025.

    7. Margin Outlook
      Q: What is the outlook for North America margins?
      A: North America's adjusted EBITDA margin was 44.6% in 2024, down 60 basis points year-over-year. Management anticipates margin expansion of 30 to 50 basis points company-wide in 2025 as investments decrease and revenues increase.

    8. Contract Structure Shift
      Q: Progress in moving away from usage-based contracts?
      A: Approximately 75% of revenue is from ratable sources, 15% from deliveries, and 10% usage-based. D&B aims to increase ratable revenue to 85%-90%, reducing quarterly variability.

    9. Vertical Approach
      Q: How are you deepening client relationships?
      A: By adopting a vertical approach, D&B is aligning with clients' industries, offering tailored solutions, and speaking their language to better meet specific needs.

    10. Product Demand from Geopolitical Shifts
      Q: Any uptick in product demand due to tariffs?
      A: There is strong demand for solutions addressing supply chain and tariff issues. D&B's capabilities help clients navigate geopolitical shifts and uncertainties.