Diamondback Energy - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
May 6, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q1 2025 beat on S&P Global consensus across EPS, revenue and EBITDA: EPS $4.54 vs $4.20 (+8%), revenue $3.86B vs $3.75B, and EBITDA $3.02B vs $2.81B, reflecting stronger realizations and cost control; GAAP diluted EPS was $4.83 and total revenues were $4.05B (company figures). S&P Global values marked with an asterisk; see Estimates Context below for details.*
- Management pivoted to maximize free cash flow amid commodity volatility: FY25 capex cut ~$0.4B at midpoint to $3.4–$3.8B (from $3.8–$4.2B) while trimming FY25 oil guidance slightly to 480–495 MBO/d (from 485–498); Q2 oil guidance set at 485–500 MBO/d with $800–$900M capex.
- Operational execution remained best‑in‑class: average oil 475.9 MBO/d (850.7 MBOE/d), cash costs $10.48/BOE, consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $2.95B, and Adjusted FCF $1.58B; declared $1.00 base dividend and repurchased ~$575M of stock (55% of Adjusted FCF returned).
- Narrative/catalysts: proactive capex discipline and buyback bias, explicit “red/yellow/green” oil-price thresholds for activity, and FY25 capital efficiency improvement (MBO per $MM capex +~10%) could support multiple resilience; tariff‑driven casing cost inflation and higher GP&T/cash tax guide are offsets.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- EPS/revenue/EBITDA beat vs S&P Global consensus; company reported GAAP diluted EPS $4.83, consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $2.95B, Adjusted FCF $1.58B; buybacks + dividend returned ~55% of Adjusted FCF. S&P Global consensus and actuals in Estimates Context.*
- Capital allocation pivot: “We are lowering our full year 2025 capital budget to $3.4–$3.8B… We would prefer to use the incremental dollar generated to repurchase shares and pay down debt over drilling and completing wells at these prices today.”.
- Record operations: “We averaged 8.8 days from spud to TD, the fastest average performance in Diamondback history,” and ~3,500 feet completed per day; four electric Zeus fleets in use.
What Went Wrong
- Macro headwinds: management cited OPEC supply additions and slowing global demand; activity cut by three rigs and one frac crew, with sequential oil decline expected from Q2 peak to Q3 (~30 Mbo/d gross impact from dropping a frac crew).
- Cost headwinds: casing costs up >10% due to tariffs (~$6/ft, ~1% total well cost, ~+$40M annually at current pace), though expected to be offset by service-cost deflation/efficiency gains.
- 2025 guide mix shifted: GP&T raised to $1.40–$1.60/BOE (from $1.20–$1.40); net interest expense guide raised to $0.40–$0.65/BOE (from $0.25–$0.50); cash tax rate to 19–22% (from 17–20%).
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Diamondback Energy First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Adam Lawlis, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Adam Lawlis (VP of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Lauren. Good morning, and welcome to Diamondback Energy's First Quarter 2025 conference call. During our call today, we will reference an updated investor presentation and letter to stockholders, which can be found on Diamondback's website. Representing Diamondback today are Travis Stice, Chairman and CEO; Kaes Van't Hof, President; Daniel Wesson, COO; and Jere Thompson, CFO. During this conference call, the participants may make certain forward-looking statements relating to the company's financial condition, results of operations, plans, objectives, future performance, and businesses. We caution you that actual results could differ materially from those that are indicated in these forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors. Information concerning these factors can be found in the company's filings with the SEC. In addition, we will make reference to certain non-GAAP measures. The reconciliations with the appropriate GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release issued yesterday afternoon.
I'll now turn the call over to Travis Stice.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you, Adam. I hope everyone has had a chance to review our stockholder letter that was released last night. Most of our commentary today will be found inside that letter. Operator, would you please open the line for questions?
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs & Co. Your line is now open.
Neil Mehta (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Yeah, good morning, Travis, Kaes, and Travis, congratulations on your position for retirement, and Kaes, congratulations again on taking on the new role. I think some important news this morning around changes in the activity plans and in response to, obviously, what is a tougher oil macro. Travis, Kaes, can you spend some time talking about the thought process that went into the decision and how you're thinking about the approach from here?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Sure. Neil, our job is to allocate capital and allocate capital for the most profit we can for the shareholders who own the company. Part of our role is we have to have a view of the macro as we allocate capital, and the current view of the macro is certainly challenging at best. Over the weekend, OPEC made the decision to put an extra 1 million barrels a day on the market in what's already an oversupplied world, and we still are looking at headwinds with what we're seeing as slowing economies around the world, which obviously has a read-through to demand.
What we tried to put together was a response to those kind of macro conditions, which by taking $400 million out of our capital budget and three drilling rigs and one frac spread allowed us to maximize the CapEx reduction while minimizing volume impact and, at the same token, provide us a runway for maximum flexibilities to respond in either direction in future quarters as this evolving supply-demand imbalance works its way through the system. That is sort of the background of what we talked to the board about well before Saturday's decision by OPEC. Again, it stemmed with how can we create the most value when we allocate capital. When you look at what we've done with this announcement, we've actually made our program more capital-efficient by spending less dollars this year.
Neil Mehta (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Yeah, Travis, the follow-up on that is we've certainly reduced your cash CapEx by $400 million. The impact on production is not that significant, at least for 2025. Is that a function of the delay between changes in activity and production, or is that you guys were just really tracking well in terms of your productivity to start the year?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, Neil, let me give you some color on that because I think it's important, right? On the outside, it looks like a 1% hit to production, but if you just look at Q2, peak to trough, we're going to probably be down 20,000 net barrels of oil a day, which on a gross basis is close to 30. We had a great April. Things were humming along. We were well over 500,000 net barrels of oil a day. Obviously, now hitting the brakes a little bit with the reduction in the frac crews. If you think about it, we're about 475,000 barrels a day net Q1. Q2 guide round numbers is about 495, and then we're going to decline off a bit into Q3 down to about 485. At that point, in today's market, hold that flat.
On the outside, it looks like a flattish program, but this is why we've kind of been saying that we think gross oil production is coming down in the Permian in the U.S. You just look at ours, for example, going from five frac crews down to four is going to be a 30,000 barrel a day impact in just a quarter.
Neil Mehta (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Thank you, Kaes. Thanks, Travis.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you. Thanks, Neil.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Hanold with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Scott Hanold (Managing Director)
Yeah, thanks. Travis, again, congrats too on your next stage. I would say it's unfortunate it has to be on a bad macro note, but I think it's a testament to what you've created that Diamondback's able to kind of manage through this pretty well. My first question is—you're welcome—my first question is just your broad view of the oil macro. I thought it was pretty interesting in your investor letter how you thought the U.S. oil production was ready to roll over. Obviously, you all have some pretty good eyes and feelers out on the ground. Can you give us a sense of what you're seeing real-time in the Permian Basin and other places and your view on maybe where oil production goes from here? It's more of a U.S. perspective versus a Diamondback one.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Sure. Certainly, as the Permian Basin goes, U.S. production is going to follow that. At roughly 6 million barrels of oil a day, we've got a base decline that we have to offset every year of about 2.5 million barrels a day. It does not take much capital to come out of the equation for that base decline to really be seen in production. You can apply that also to the 13 million barrels a day that the U.S. is producing. That's roughly 4.5-5 million barrels a day of production that has to be replaced. I think as capital continues to come out of the investment equation, this decline that we're on is really going to be magnified.
Because we are in the more mature stage of the development, this is not one of the types of declines that can be offset by improved efficiencies, although we highlighted continued efficiency gains at the Diamondback level in the quarterly results. We're picking pennies up now. When we were going through this earlier in our history, probably most recently 2014 and early 2015, we were able to pick up dimes and quarters back then. It is just where we are in the maturation cycle of depleting these resources that I think you're going to see a really remarkable response on this base decline that is part of the equation. Yeah, Scott, we've been kind of well-trained in shale, right? This is the fourth time we've had to do this in 10 years, the worst being five years ago, and you saw how quickly shale responded.
I think the only thing I would add to Travis's comments is the operators that we talk to in the field that live and work in Midland are right now pushing everything to the right, right? Every little five to eight well program that was going to get drilled is now going to get drilled and probably not completed or drilled later. All those little anecdotes start to add up, and you add that into what the companies like Diamondback are doing, and that starts to add up pretty quickly. I think for us, let's get this over with and move forward because the other side of this is going to be great for those that are left, and it's going to be a great day for Diamondback shareholders.
The comment I made, Scott, on the tipping point in U.S. production, it just depends on how low oil price goes and how long it lasts. The scenario is, with this base decline that's so extreme, the amount of capital required to get back to 13 million barrels a day or 6 million barrels a day in the Permian might be an untenable lift for the business model that we've put in place where we're returning so much back to our investors that own the company. That is sort of the final analysis: how low do we get, and then what is the reinvestment rate going to be required to get production back up or to get it to start growing again?
Scott Hanold (Managing Director)
Yeah, I appreciate the commentary. Definitely feels like it's a have-and-have-not situation. Kaes, look, you gave a little bit of color on 2H this year, and you kind of mentioned in your brief comments just a while ago, it's time to get over this and move forward. As Diamondback thinks about moving forward in 2026, what is it going to take for you guys to move into maintenance mode? Could you just give a little color on the setup for 2026, considering obviously we're declining and flattening out in the back half of the year?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, that's a good question, Scott. I mean, I think the key point for us is that we're not sacrificing anything in 2026 today. We expect to run four crews here for probably the next three months, depending on where prices go. If things get worse, we could go lower. Basically, the plan points to us bringing back a fifth crew and leveling off at 485,000 barrels of oil a day in Q4. We'll still end the year with more ducts than we've ever had and more flexibility than we've ever had to increase production in 2026 should prices respond. In my mind, that's a $65 to $70+ world where OPEC's spare capacity is lower, and we have a healthier macro. I'm hoping for that day.
We'd like to get back to that 500,000 barrels of oil a day net-plus plan, but it seems like it's a long way away today with the next couple of quarters we have. I think, Scott, just to finish this commentary, I think our shareholders are lucky that Diamondback has such a long inventory because while this base decline that I talked about at the macro will present itself for Diamondback as well, and Kaes gave you some very specific numbers for that, the breadth and depth of our inventory allows us to be more insulated from that than other investment opportunities where the inventory is a lot shorter or shorter and of less quality. I hope that makes sense, but that's kind of how we think about 2026 and 2027.
Scott Hanold (Managing Director)
Appreciate the comments. Again, Travis, congrats.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you, Scott.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Deckelbaum with TD Securities. Your line is now open.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Analyst)
Thanks for the time, guys. Travis, thanks for your candid thoughts in the letter. Good luck to everyone and the roles ahead.
Thank you.
Maybe, Kaes, you could follow up a bit or anyone, perhaps Danny, just talking about sort of the optimal DUC load. Obviously, you elected to drop the rigs and not build further DUCs with the one frac crew coming down. Sounds like net-net this plan, you're drawing down perhaps or building 20 fewer DUCs this year going into next year. How do we think about the variables for maybe keeping those rigs and building a DUC backlog in the context of what the right amount of DUC inventory level is for you going into the next couple of years? Is it more of a function of where you expect drilling rig rates to be coming down in the ensuing quarters?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, look, we're carrying probably the largest DUC backlog in North America right now. There is not a world where we're looking at building DUCs, gross DUCs, the top line level. The new plan, we're drawing down less DUCs than we were in the original plan. I think probably a rule of thumb is for every frac crew you have running, you need one and a half to two pads of DUC inventory behind ahead of those pads or ahead of those crews. If we're going to run five crews, you got to have 10 pads-ish worth of DUC backlog at, call it, 8-12 wells a pad. That kind of gets you to a comfortable DUC backlog inventory for a run rate.
We're probably sitting at the end of this year, another 100 wells above that number, depending on what prices do in the back half of this year. Yeah, and David, we put the comment in our letter that traditionally we would build more DUCs in this environment, but our largest input cost on drilling wells—so let's just say that drilling a well costs $200 a foot, about $2 million. The cost of casing is $650,000 a well now, and that is up 12% quarter over quarter due to tariff impacts. We think that the demand side, as the rig count reduces, steel prices come back down, and we can look at logically bringing some rigs back to build DUCs if costs are cheap. That capital allocation decision today tells us, "Drop the rigs, buy back stock.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Analyst)
Appreciate the color. Maybe just as a follow-up, just given the environment we're in now, have your expectations changed with the ability to execute on some of the non-operated or non-core sales or the anticipated water infrastructure sale to Deep Blue?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Listen, Deep Blue obviously is essentially a subsidiary of ours. We own 30% of it. We think the EDS, which is the Endeavor Water System, logically belongs in Deep Blue. It would make that business the largest water handler in the Midland Basin. It seems that water has started to get a lot more attention in the public market. I do not see that sale or deal being pushed too far to the right just because we want to get those two businesses integrated and ready for what is next. Outside of that, we obviously participated a little bit in the sale of Bangle, the NGL pipeline to MPLX. That should close in July. The last big piece of our equity method investments is the EPIC pipeline, which we own 27.5% of. I think that probably is a slower process today than it was three months ago.
I think lessons learned from past down cycles is that we do not have to force asset sales. We can be patient. I think we are going to get a couple of wins on the board, but we do not have to hit a specific number by a specific period of time because we think the market is going to recover and the balance sheet is strong, and we can be patient.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Analyst)
Appreciate it, guys.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, David.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Freeman with Raymond James. Your line is now open.
John Freeman (Managing Director)
Good morning and congratulations again, Travis, on a fantastic career. I want to follow up on some of the prior commentary. I really appreciate the leadership that y'all are showing with this meaningful reduction in activity, both in the shareholder letter and then in those comments here earlier on the call. You talked about kind of that $65-$70 kind of oil price world where you'd look to maybe put your foot back on the accelerator. I just want to dig in a little bit more. Should we think of it as even if your cost structure was to continue to move lower due to service costs, efficiencies, whatever, and returns continue to improve, y'all would still probably wait until you're in a $65-$70 world before you'd want to put your foot on the accelerator. Am I thinking about that right?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, that's right, John. I just think we want to be patient. I think there's a lot of uncertainty on both the demand and the supply side. In our mind, the supply side is going to figure itself out pretty quickly here. Demand, obviously, is something I'm not an expert in, right? We're experts in US shale and US supply, and what we're seeing in the field. In my mind, a $70-plus crude environment is a relatively healthy environment, and that would be an appropriate time to bring some capital back into the equation.
John Freeman (Managing Director)
Got it. Y'all did highlight what you've seen in terms of the impact on kind of your steel-related products with the tariffs on casing being up 12% since last quarter. Y'all were able to lower your Midland Basin cost per foot guidance yet again. Just hoping you could maybe speak to kind of the puts and takes that are allowing you to kind of offset what you're seeing on the casing side.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, first of all, the teams had an incredible first quarter. I mean, we put some highlights in the deck. Under eight days average per well on 120-plus wells is a pretty impressive feat. I think we're on the lower end of our efficiencies, which is good. I think, unfortunately, the rest of that reduction is likely to come from the service environment here with rigs coming down and frac crews coming down. I'll let Danny opine on what he's seeing real-time. Yeah. I think we put some details out there around casing, and the 10% increase is about $6 a foot or so on the drilling portion of the well. It is really not a huge number. Like Kaes said, the execution from the drilling and completion teams is really driving the cost beat.
I think we anticipate that there's going to be lower activity in the basin, which usually leads to lower service pricing. There's a lot of volatility out there right now with input costs and tariffs, but we do expect that activity is going to come out of this basin in a meaningful way, and that should have a trickle-down effect to pricing.
John Freeman (Managing Director)
Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, John.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Arun Jayaram with JP Morgan Securities LLC. Your line is now open.
Arun Jayaram (Research Analyst)
Yeah. Good morning, gentlemen. Travis, Kaes, you highlighted how the trajectory of oil volumes could trend to 485 in the second half of 2025. Danny mentioned you'll have kind of a really high DUC backlog kind of going into this period. I was just wondering if you could help us think about 2026 CapEx to keep that 485 flat. All else being equal, would a $900 million per quarter run rate seem reasonable based on what we know today?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah, Arun, I mean, I think that's reasonable. I hope that doesn't end up being the plan. Clearly, with service costs coming down, efficiency's high, a little lower production base, I think that's logical. We also had a few more one-time items in the budget this year that will be reduced next year. I think that's a logical baseline. Again, I'm kind of hoping that the market recovers quickly here and we can be talking about 500-plus thousand barrels of oil a day next year. I think we got to wait a few months here to see where things settle out.
Arun Jayaram (Research Analyst)
Understood. That's helpful. Maybe my follow-up is in the shareholder letter, Travis, you mentioned how Diamondback will allocate a higher mix of free cash flow to repurchases if the volatility continues. I was wondering how you and Kaes think about kind of balancing leverage, reducing leverage versus buybacks, and perhaps tell us how you think about, give us a sense of what type of mix could we see towards the return of free cash flow to shareholders versus the 50/50 kind of overall guidance.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I think obviously improving the balance sheet is important, but I think the smartest capital allocation decision today is to repurchase shares. I think generally, Arun, round numbers probably allocate 25-30% of free cash flow to paying down debt. You saw that we repurchased some of our longer-dated notes at well below par. Those notes had come down in price due to the 30-year treasury blowing out. We took advantage of that. I think you can expect to see more things like that on the debt side. I think some of our non-core asset sales coming in should reduce our term loan. We have put in place a two-year term loan that we put in place for the Double Eagle closing. You get to the other 75% of free cash flow or 70% of free cash flow.
In our minds, that needs to be allocated to 100% repurchases and the base dividend. I think obviously the variable dividend's out the window at these prices, and repurchasing shares grows per share oil volumes and per share cash flow and free cash flow when the market recovers.
Arun Jayaram (Research Analyst)
Great. Travis, best of wishes to you. If you do write the book, I look forward to the chapter on how you got the Endeavor deal with Kaes to the finish line.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
All right. Thank you, Arun. It was all Travis. Thank you, Arun.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Brackett with Bernstein Research. Your line is now open.
Bob Brackett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Hi. Good morning. If I think about the capital reductions, you guys get to choose which crews you keep, and you guys get to choose which locations you drill. To what degree are those real levers where you're making choices, or are those most of the crews are about the same and most of the locations are about the same?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, I think from an execution standpoint, most of our resources on the service side are pretty well in line with each other. There's not a lot of high grading to occur in slowing down the activity. It really becomes a commercial decision and discussions with our business partners on who's going to work with us as activity comes down. On the project side of things, our job is to always try to allocate capital to the best projects. I think if you look at the consistency of our program over the past few years, it kind of speaks to the consistency of the projects we're doing. There's not a whole lot of high grading to be done in the projects themselves.
I think you will see us probably prioritize the projects where Viper has interest so we can continue to support Viper in that regard. I do not think there is material high grading to be done in the pads or resource allocation. Bob, that is a blessing of having an outstanding inventory as well too. We are still allocating wells with a very small range of outcomes because they are the top quartile of our inventory. As Danny pointed out, we have been doing that for several years now. Durability of inventory matters when you go into one of these cycles, and that is what our shareholders are lucky to have with Diamondback.
Bob Brackett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Yep. That's very clear. Quick follow-up. At your run rate, you're going to get through the remainder of your share buyback authorization. That's a trivial exercise to top that up when you need to.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. We thought about looking at it this quarter, but felt that we want to get through another quarter. There is probably enough noise with all the changes to the capital plan this quarter, and we will discuss it with the board. I think the board is certainly behind management in believing that buybacks are the right thing at these levels, and we expect to increase it when we get closer to the authorization.
Bob Brackett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Very good. Thanks and congrats.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you, Bob.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Your line is now open.
Scott Gruber (Senior Analyst)
Yes. Good morning. I found the comment in the shareholder letter about geologic headwinds outpacing technology and process efficiency gains interesting. I assume that's a broader industry comment. I am curious, do you see the technology and process efficiency gains slowing from here, or are the geologic headwinds becoming more severe? Just some more color behind that comment and kind of what's changing on the margin.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I think that's a natural evolution of a maturing basin. I mean, we've been now exploiting this shale resource in the Permian Basin for 15 years, and we still expect some R&D and some really innovative breakthroughs coming. In a general sense, as dollars get allocated to lower and lower quality inventory, and the longer you're in the game, if you're focused on excellence and execution, your natural decline will be impacted where you're making less improvements than you did early on in the development of that asset. It's more of a general comment that, from my experience, we've seen play out in the Eagle Ford, the Bakken, and some of these other in the Barnett Shale in the early days as you continue to deplete these reservoirs.
Scott Gruber (Senior Analyst)
Got it. Coming back to the cost-saving side of things, as you selected which rigs and frac crews were retained, were you able to capture some immediate savings from the crews that you retained, or are you seeing service companies more willing to do blend and extend with any contracts in place? I'm just curious about kind of how quickly you're able to secure some savings from your service providers.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
I will give a high-level comment. I think for us, we have always tried to have very short-term contracts so that we can have these conversations quickly, both on the completion side and the drilling side. I think it is kind of a different story on both sides. On the drilling side, we use a multitude of contractors, and those conversations are probably more fluid. On the completion side, we have obviously been big fans of the Halliburton Zeus E-Fleets. We run four of those today. I truly think that relationship is more of a business partner-type relationship where we are going to get through it together. I will let Danny give some details.
Danny Weeson (Executive VP and COO)
Yeah. I think Kaes kind of hit the nail on the head.
We are constantly in commercial negotiations with our service providers based on market conditions and what we're seeing in the pricing market and what kind of service quality we're receiving from them. When we lower activity internally, it's a discussion with all of them on who's going to be willing to work with us. As the market softens more broadly, we'll continue to have those conversations. I think Kaes has said before, every day is RFQ day at Diamondback. We continue to just keep our ear to the ground on where the service market is and want to recognize the best commercial value for our shareholders and those discussions around our procurement process.
Scott Gruber (Senior Analyst)
Great. Appreciate the color.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Scott.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip J. Jungwirth with BMO. Your line is now open.
Philip J. Jungwirth (Managing Director)
Thanks. Good morning, guys.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Good morning.
Philip J. Jungwirth (Managing Director)
On the macro commentary around US oil production, one of the things that analysts often underappreciate in a downturn is just the industry's ability to high-grade capital. This could include coring up to more tier one or tier eight grids, private activity getting cut at a faster rate, or just targeting more primary zones or upspacing. I am wondering how you see that high-grading ability today for the Permian more broadly, and is there any reason, as shales more mature, to think that this could be less upside to capital efficiency for the industry than we've seen in prior downturns?
Danny Weeson (Executive VP and COO)
Yeah. Kind of relative to my prior comment about we're in the later stage of development of these resources, I would argue that most of the high-grading has been occurring over the last three to four years as all of these zones, particularly the Permian, have been well-defined, and the focus has been on efficient execution. If someone hasn't been allocating capital to their very, very best projects, I guess they can take this opportunity to do that. Our recognizance and monitoring of the industry says that everyone's trying to drill the best stuff first, and that's the way we think it's going to play out in the future.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I think if you look at this, the market today, just generally, balance sheets are healthier, free cash flow is being generated.
What we're trying to say is I think in the past, the decision to cut capital was to protect the balance sheet for a lot of, particularly when there's a multitude of smid caps and mid caps that are no longer here. Now today, I think decisions are being made to preserve precious inventory because inventory is scarce. I think the plays are well-defined. There hasn't been, there's little things going on around the basin, like the Dean play in Dawson County, Middle Spraybury down in Ector County, things that are adding resource but not nearly to the level of what we saw in the past down cycles. I think decisions to cut capital and defer turn lines or defer inventory is being made to preserve inventory life rather than protect balance sheet.
Philip J. Jungwirth (Managing Director)
Great. Thanks. There has been a number of gas pipeline projects that have reached FID to move gas out of the Permian and even further along the Gulf Coast. What's your appetite currently for incremental FT on gas? It looks like Waha tightens materially in 2027. You also have power opportunities. How is that influenced by any expectations around future Permian oil growth?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Sadly, the gas growth is going to continue out of the basin in our models. We're going to keep putting more FT on the balance sheet. I think we have a lot of confidence in what we've committed to. We have about a 750 million a day total commitments that'll be in place by the end of 2026. We are reserving some space for power generation should that come to fruition in the basin. In general, I think you can expect us to continue to support new pipelines out of the basin. There's even some talk of pipelines going west. We'll see if that happens. We want to have a diverse set of marketing arrangements on the gas side. I think we generally believe in the long-term gas thesis, and therefore should make some more money off of our gas.
Philip J. Jungwirth (Managing Director)
Thanks, guys.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield with Texas Capital. Your line is now open.
Derrick Whitfield (Managing Director)
Good morning, all. I echo everyone's congrats and also appreciate your capital discipline leadership as well.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you, Derek.
Derrick Whitfield (Managing Director)
With my first question, I'd like to use your driving analogy from the investor letter and ask, what price do you see as the next natural tipping point in activity or the point where you'd firmly press on the brakes, assuming current service costs?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. We like that analogy too. I think red is probably something with a four in front of it. I would say yellow is something with a five in front of it. Green needs to be somewhere in the mid to high 60s with a path to 70 to accelerate through that green light.
Derrick Whitfield (Managing Director)
Thinking about your DNC activity or non-DNC activity, could you offer some perspective on the amount of non-DNC capital you could take out of the business if we were to assume a more protracted period of lower prices?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. We lowered our non-DNC budget by about $50 million to midpoint. We do think if we ever get our midstream business merged into Deep Blue, that would take another $50-$60 million out of our non-DNC budget. There are some pretty interesting things we're doing on the non-DNC side. Some of these capital workovers that we've put in the budget are starting to pay dividends and help improve the base decline. I think those projects stay in there. As the total amount of wells turned in line goes down, the associated infrastructure also goes down or gets pushed to the right. I think we had a good cut for what we said today. I mentioned earlier in the call that there are some one-time things in the budget this year that are probably coming out next year as well.
We always try to get that non-DNC budget number down. I think it's headed that way even in a flat environment next year.
Derrick Whitfield (Managing Director)
That's great. Thanks for your time.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Derek.
Operator (participant)
Thanks, Derek. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin MacCurdy with Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is now open.
Kevin MacCurdy (Managing Director)
Hi. Good morning. Good morning, Travis and Kaes. In past cycles, Diamondback has been a consolidator and has taken advantage of M&A opportunities thinking back to the COVID years. Is that different this time? I know that Double Eagle was the last coveted undeveloped position in the Midland Basin, but are there other ways that you guys are kind of thinking about taking advantage of industry distress on the M&A front?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Kevin, I mean, that's a good question. We've obviously been very busy over the last year and a half with Endeavor and Double Eagle. Those are two premier, premier assets that in our mind wouldn't be available in a more volatile environment. We are fortunate that we took advantage and consolidated those two when we could. I think we're in the period right now where there's so much noise and volatility that not a lot gets done. I think we have to be very patient on our side. I think we're very focused on reducing our share count and getting our debt paid down a little bit. Anything that we would look at would have to be extremely, extremely cheap. I just don't think we're there yet today.
Kevin MacCurdy (Managing Director)
Appreciate that. Just one question for me. Thanks.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Kevin.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Your line is now open.
Charles Meade (Research Analyst)
Good morning, Travis, Kaes, and Danny. Travis, you made a—I am not sure how much you intended to, but I think you made a big splash with your shareholder letter. I am curious, it is titled "Letter to Shareholders," but are there other audiences you had in mind as you penned that letter? I am thinking it could be the Midland community more broadly or the Permian-based community, Washington policymakers, or even OPEC, perhaps.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Charles, the intent of that letter is for our stockholders. They are the ones that own the company and are making future investment decisions based on the way management allocates capital. We always focus that letter on as if they are our only audience. We also recognize that this is a public document. Based on some of the feedback we have seen overnight, it is reasonable to expect others have read that letter besides just our stockholders. I would not necessarily intimate that there was any other effort out there besides communicating to our stockholders. We were at least aware that this was a message that was going to be read by more than just our stockholders.
Charles Meade (Research Analyst)
Got it. Sounds like you've seen a lot of messages already this morning. Travis, I want to go back to Scott Gruber's question and just push a little bit further on the rate of change. You talked about the headwinds, the geological headwinds, and the tailwinds of more efficiencies. You talked about the rate of change on the efficiencies. You said used to be we were picking up quarters, dimes, and nickels, and now we're picking up pennies on the efficiency side. What does the rate of change feel like on the geologic headwind side? Is it kind of a persistent headwind that's just now kind of balanced out versus the pennies, or is it picking up?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, I think we think it's picking up. These plays are very well-defined now, right? I mean, I think if you look at past down cycles, we've always learned something in the down cycle, whether it's a new completion design, co-development, spacing studies. We're certainly not going to let this slowdown go to waste. We're going to learn something coming out of it. I don't know what it is today. The basin has been well tested by 300+ rigs; it used to be 600+ rigs over the last 10 years. I think what we're trying to say is we're drilling average wells, average 10,000-foot wells in eight days. There's not three, four more days to come out of those on average. Therefore, the cost side of the equation is going to be harder to get down by 10% or 20%.
We have been so aggressive on building our resource base and our inventory because we feel like from a scale perspective, the vast majority of the inventory in the basin has been well-defined.
Charles Meade (Research Analyst)
Got it. That is helpful color. Appreciate it.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Cheng with Scotia Bank. Your line is now open.
Paul Cheng (Managing Director)
Thank you. Hey, good morning, guys.
Paul.
Travis or Kaes, I just curious, then. I mean, based on your comment, is the business model need to be changed? I mean, historically, that the company is growth for acquisition and have a growth bias. But if you already consolidate most of the vast asset, does that mean that you have to go outside the Permian or that the entire business model perhaps that need to be changed going forward?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Paul, I do not think there is a need to go outside the Permian because I do not see any other basin, and certainly in the U.S., that has the inventory quality and depth of the Permian. We have a big motto internally, and it is know what you do not know. We are really, really good at the Permian Basin. We are really, really good at drilling wells in the Permian Basin. That is our expertise. I do not think we need to go outside the basin. On the business model comment, I think we have grown the business through acquisition. We are obviously extremely large now. We have always focused on per-share metrics. I think there is still a world where we grow per-share metrics significantly with our current asset base.
While that's a long way off from today, I do think there's going to be a time period where significant organic growth is going to be required from someone like Diamondback to fill the gap in U.S. supply that probably struggles over the next 5-10 years. That, in our mind, is what we've been positioning the company for long-term, for that proverbial pot of gold on the end of the rainbow when we're last man standing in the basin drilling high-return wells at high oil prices.
Paul Cheng (Managing Director)
Excellent. The second question is that just curious, is that something happened in the first quarter in the NGL and natural gas production? Seems like dropping far more than the type curve would have suggested.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. We had some adjustments that we made to some contracts that went from fixed fee to POP percent of proceeds. We think that that reverses a bit in Q2. I think you can run essentially 55% oil as your baseline for us going forward.
Paul Cheng (Managing Director)
Okay. We do. Thank you.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Paul.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Leo Mariani with Roth. Your line is now open.
Leo Mariani (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
I just wanted to ask about a couple of these cost items. Certainly, in your guidance, looks like LOE came down a little bit, but transportation rose a little bit. Not sure if that's related to perhaps some of the adjustments you just talked about on the gas and NGL side, but just looking for a little bit of color there.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I'll take GPT quickly and give LOE to Danny. GPT, basically, we decided to take more molecules in kind on the gas side. GPT goes up, but our gas realizations as a percent of 9X should go up a little bit. That's the shift there. I'll let Danny talk about the decrease in LOE.
Danny Weeson (Executive VP and COO)
Yeah. On the LOE side, really, we had a little bit of a one-time issue or noise around the Endeavor close with regards to some of the water business. We anticipate that there's a little conservatism baked around the close. We anticipate that LOE will come up from the Q1 number, but we do like a little lower number than we had originally planned for the year.
We like our forward guide for LOE and know that it's going to come up from Q1, but we'll be lower than we originally planned.
Leo Mariani (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
That's helpful.
Wanted to just ask a little bit more kind of around the buyback here. You guys were kind of good enough to kind of articulate your sort of red light, yellow light, kind of green light sort of activity levels with some good oil price kind of commentary there. Should we really kind of think about the buyback kind of being sort of in the opposite direction? When you guys are kind of green light and we're $65-plus oil approaching $70, should we just naturally assume that the buyback comes down a little bit? Obviously, in the red light situation, it's where you guys kind of push the pedal a little bit more. Is that generally how you're kind of thinking about the framework?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. That's right. I think that's a great way to think about it. As we said in the letter, in our minds, the first test of our new business model of high free cash generation, high return to capital, and making the right decision to cut drilling CapEx in exchange for buying back shares at these levels. I think in today's environment, it makes sense to continue to pay down some debt but allocate more capital to the buyback. We see our dividend as a fixed obligation. Every million shares we get rid of in the market is a $4 million reduction annually to our dividend payment. That, in our mind, translates to about a 3.5% to 4% dividend yield depending on the day. That's a fixed obligation that goes away.
Leo Mariani (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Leo.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kalei Akamai with Bank of America. Your line is now open.
Kalei Akamai (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Hey. Good morning, guys. I've got a couple here. Maybe first, can you talk about frac efficiency? I think on a prior call, you guys mentioned that you were doing 100 per year, kind of up from 80, and you've highlighted visibility on, call it, 120. Now, if all four fleets are doing 120, then I think you're replacing a good chunk of one fleet. Can you just update us on where the progress is with respect to that goal? If you kind of get these efficiencies before oil gets back to $65, I guess there wouldn't be much to add back.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, look, we always look at what is the oil count required to execute our plan. I certainly think the completion team has done a fantastic job of driving execution and efficiencies. I think we highlighted in the release that they're completing mid-3,000 feet per day on average, but we've certainly seen them touch well above 4,000 feet per day on a pad. We know that's possible. We know that number, 100-120 wells a year per crew, is certainly achievable. It's just doing the things we need to do from a wellbore construction, from a pad configuration, and water infrastructure standpoint to be able to execute to that level on a programmatic basis. I don't think we're that far away from being able to achieve that.
Certainly, once we do, it would just mean fewer fleets to achieve our total well count for the program.
Kalei Akamai (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Thanks for that. The second one is on the 25 capital range. It's kind of been lowered here, but it's not been narrowed. It's still a $400 million spread between the low and the high ends. Can you help us understand the path to the lower number at 3.4, i.e., what needs to go right to hit that number?
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I don't think it's going to be it wouldn't necessarily be a positive thing for the macro if we got to the low end, right? At 3.4, that's kind of the use of the analogy, the red light scenario, sub-50, probably dropping another crew. I do think the midpoint at today's service prices is kind of the world where we level off at 485,000 barrels of oil a day in Q3 and bring back a fifth crew to stay there in Q4. That's kind of midpoint. High end feels far away today, but there is a world where prices do snap back, and we want to get back to our 500,000 barrels of oil a day run rate. While that seems far away today, it would be a good problem to have.
Kalei Akamai (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Thanks, Kaes.
Operator (participant)
Thank you.
Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Doug Leggett with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.
Doug Leggett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Hey, guys. Thanks for getting me on. Kaes and Travis, again, I'll add my congrats to both of you guys, and I look forward to seeing what's next for you both. I want to ask a question about the capital efficiency because you made quite a big deal about that in your presentation deck. I kind of want to walk you through the matter quickly. You've cut $400 million off your capital, and you've lost 5 million barrels for the year. I'm trying to understand what's the trade-off to decide to add that capital back? It seems to me that you get higher free cash flow in the current plan than you would if you added $400 million back to get 5 million barrels. How do you think about sustaining capital, and what's your optimization decision around that? I've got a quick follow-up, please.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. I think, Doug, I think the nuance there is the path of the production throughout the year, right? We were well above 500,000 barrels of oil a day net in April, declining off. You put this big gap in activity in the middle of the year. That's really not a full-year run rate number. I think it comes down to what level of production are you sustaining and how much capital does it take? I still think that if we were at 500,000 barrels of oil a day run rate, we're closer to a billion dollars a quarter of CapEx. Down to 485, 480, it's closer to this 900 a quarter with two quarters below 900 in Q2 and Q3.
I think there's just a little nuance here with how quickly things are changing and how quickly production is heading down for a couple of quarters while then stabilizing in Q4.
Doug Leggett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Got it. That's really helpful. My follow-up is that I think you're moving the oil market today, frankly. I wondered if you could share maybe Travis asked you to elaborate a little bit on some of the comments you made. You basically called a top on US oil production of shale anyway. What is your non-operated insight to what others are doing? I'm just curious if you could maybe put some numbers as to how you see the sensitivity of rig decline relative to the rollover in production. Any color you can add from the work you've done would be helpful.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Yeah. Doug, I think we really focus on anecdotes, right? We know a lot of people in the business. We know a lot of people on both the public and the private side. And Midland's, while we're a large public company based in Midland, we know everybody that's picking up a rig to go drill three Barnett wells or three Dean wells or this unit they picked up in the Delaware Basin. Every single conversation I've had with those types of operators is that this oil price doesn't work, and they're going to be very, very—and then traditionally, those are acreage positions that have higher breakevens, right? All of that is getting pushed to the right. Very clearly, other basins that don't have sub-$40 breakeven inventory like the Permian are having these same discussions.
Our kind of commentary is that the marginal barrel in the U.S. is just not being produced today. We're seeing it already in terms of frac activity, frac count. Even some pipeline scrapes are down. You look at Midland-Houston spreads. Those have narrowed. I just think the marginal barrel is being pushed to the right. Again, we do not have a crystal ball on the rest of the world, but we have a very good view of what the U.S. looks like. Right now, that's a business that's slowing dramatically and likely declining in terms of production.
Doug Leggett (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Terrific, guys. Good luck, and thanks for your answers.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thanks, Doug.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Travis Stice for closing remarks.
Travis Stice (Chairman and CEO)
Thank you, guys, for listening in today and for your questions. Thank you for your support over these last 10, 15 years as well. If y'all have any questions, you know how to get a hold of us. Y'all have a great day. God bless you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.