Keysight Technologies - Q3 2024
August 20, 2024
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Operator (participant)
Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Keysight Technologies' fiscal third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. My name is Sierra, and I'll be your lead operator for today. If at any time during the conference you need to reach an operator, please press star zero. This call is being recorded today, Tuesday, August twentieth, 2024, at 1:30 P.M. Pacific Time. I would now like to hand the call over to Jason Kary, Vice President, Treasurer, and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jason Kary (VP of Investor Relations)
Thank you, and welcome everyone to Keysight's third quarter earnings conference call for fiscal year two thousand and twenty-four. Joining me are Keysight's President and CEO, Satish Dhanasekaran, and our CFO, Neil Dougherty. In the Q&A session, we'll be joined by Chief Customer Officer, Mark Wallace. The press release and information to supplement today's discussions are on our website at investor.keysight.com under Financial Information and Quarterly Reports. Today's comments will refer to non-GAAP financial measures. We will also make reference to core growth, which excludes the impact of currency movements and acquisitions or divestitures completed within the last 12 months. The most directly comparable GAAP financial metrics and reconciliations are on our website, and all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. We will make forward-looking statements about the financial performance of the company on today's call.
These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and are only valid as of today. We assume no obligation to update them and encourage you to review our recent SEC filings for a more complete view of these risks and other factors. Lastly, management is scheduled to participate in upcoming investor conferences hosted by Jefferies, Deutsche Bank, Citi, and Goldman Sachs. And now, I will turn the call over to Satish.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. My comments will focus on three key headlines. First, Keysight executed well by delivering revenue and earnings above the high end of our guidance in market conditions that were stable and consistent with our expectations. Second, orders of $1.25 billion were slightly above expectations and in line with prior year and growing low single digits sequentially. In a mixed demand environment, we continue to see stability and pockets of growth, particularly in commercial communications. The funnel of opportunities supports our outlook for second half orders to be above first half orders, followed by a more gradual recovery in 2025, barring any further macroeconomic degradation. Third, we remain confident in the strength of our business model and are intently focused on value creation for both customers and our shareholders. Our capital allocation priorities have not changed.
First, we're strategically investing to deliver leading-edge capabilities as new technologies inflect and to return the company to our long-term growth trajectory. Second, we're expanding our SAM and growth opportunities through disciplined M&A. And third, we are committed to returning capital through share repurchases. In fact, we returned over $715 million, or 78% of free cash flow, over the past four quarters. Now, let's begin with a brief overview of Keysight's third quarter performance. Revenue of $1.2 billion and earnings per share of $1.57 were above our expectations. And for the second consecutive quarter, we saw relative stability in both orders and revenue. Turning to our business segments, CSG returned to order growth in Q3. While revenue declined 8% year over year, we saw some modest improvement sequentially. Commercial communications orders grew low double digits.
Strong growth in wireline, driven by AI, more than offset the year-over-year decline in a sequentially stable wireless business. Wireline orders grew for a third consecutive quarter, driven by robust investment in the rearchitecture of data center networks for 400 Gig, 800 Gig, and Terabit Ethernet data rates, AI model training, and network performance. We're benefiting from the investments we have made to position Keysight ahead of this technology inflection. In R&D, we're enabling customers with our design and emulation solutions across the technology stack for key applications, including GPU servers, AI workload emulation, and performance benchmarking. In manufacturing, AI cluster and switching deployments drove capacity demand this quarter, and we secured key wins in GPU rack connectivity applications with market-leading customers. Keysight also collaborated with Cisco and Panduit to demonstrate interconnect technologies in AI cluster networks to reduce power consumption.
We're also actively engaged with customers in the Ultra Ethernet Consortium to define future network architectures for AI and high-performance workloads. In wireless, demand has been stable for the past three quarters, albeit at a lower level on a year-over-year basis. While customer spending remains cautious, the breadth of our solutions portfolio is enabling us to capture ongoing R&D investment in non-terrestrial networks, open radio access network deployments, and Release 18 of the 3GPP standard. Customers are also investing in scaling 5G and evaluating next-generation technologies. For example, at the recent IEEE International Conference on Communications, Keysight showcased early 6G technology together with Ericsson. Government incentives, particularly in U.S., Europe, and Japan, are driving development of a robust ecosystem to commercialize open radio access networks.
This quarter, Keysight's open radio access network solutions enabled state-of-the-art Open Testing and Integration Centers across the globe, from Europe to North America to Asia. Turning to aerospace, defense, and government, revenue and orders were down year over year, but sequentially flat. The prolonged U.S. budget approval process has caused delays in appropriation of funding for new projects, which we expect to filter through over the next few quarters. In the interim, spending on defense modernization remains steady, with healthy demand from U.S. primes and allied governments. Keysight recently expanded its engagement with U.S. government through Joint Cyber Defense Collaborative to enhance cybersecurity resiliency. In the quarter, we secured key wins with U.S. and European primes for spectrum operation applications. We also expanded our quantum footprint with a multi-hundred qubit application win with a key government customer.
Turning to Electronic Industrial Solutions Group, revenue continued to normalize from a strong prior year, declining double digits as expected. Customer spending and market conditions remain muted, but we saw relative stability in orders and revenue on a sequential basis. In semiconductor, revenue was also down year over year versus an all-time high in Q3 last year. Orders increased low single digits and were up strongly on a sequential basis. While certain segments of the market continue to work through excess inventory, higher performance requirements for AI workloads drove spending in advanced nodes, high-bandwidth memory, and silicon photonics technologies. The investments that we have made specific to these market opportunities resulted in increased demand from foundry and memory customers for our Parametric Wafer Test Solutions. In automotive, orders and revenue declined double digits. Lower auto manufacturing activity remains a headwind in the near term.
In new mobility, EV orders were lower as demand for some battery test and charging infrastructure investments were delayed, while AV orders grew mid-single digits on a sequential basis. The opportunities in R&D continue to grow as customer engagement in transition to software-defined vehicles ramps. As an example, Riscure successfully completed the first Car Connectivity Consortium Digital Key certification in conjunction with NXP. This certification strengthens trust in security of next-generation vehicles. It also further expands Keysight's security evaluation offering for the automotive industry. In general electronics, customer spending remains constrained, particularly in manufacturing, China, and the distribution channel. There were pockets of growth in digital health and advanced research, where orders grew low double digits. Software and services revenues are resilient and grew this quarter, while accounting for 39% of total Keysight revenue.
Annual recurring revenue from software and services also increased year over year, and in Q3, accounted for roughly 29% of overall Keysight. Our Eggplant software test automation platform is expanding with multiple consecutive quarters of double-digit growth. We're also gaining early traction in sales channel leverage between ESI and Keysight to expand into select accounts and geographies. The collaboration resulted in a key win in the satellite communication space. Lastly, Keysight's design engineering software platform continues to grow. This quarter, we launched new releases for virtual prototyping and simulation capabilities, which address high-performance use cases across our communications, aerospace and defense, and automotive end markets. In summary, the strength and differentiation of Keysight's business model is enabling us to outperform in a variety of economic conditions. We're well positioned to capitalize on technology inflections ahead of us and remain laser-focused on value creation for both customers and shareholders.
With that, I'll turn it over to Neil to discuss our financial performance and outlook.
Neil Dougherty (CFO)
Thank you, Satish, and hello, everyone. Third quarter revenue of $1.217 billion was above the high end of our guidance range and down 12%, or 13% on a core basis. Orders of $1.249 billion were essentially flat or down 1% on a core basis. Backlog at the end of the quarter grew $30 million to finish at $2.3 billion. Looking at our operational results for Q3, we reported gross margin of 64%. Operating expenses of $484 million were up 1% year over year. Excluding acquisitions, SG&A expenses were down 7%, reflecting our cost flexibility and actions taken to date. Q3 operating margin was 24%, or 26% on a core basis.
Year to date, core operating margin is down only 400 basis points, continuing to outperform Keysight's down cycle model and demonstrating the financial resiliency of the business. During the quarter, we amended our tax returns from 2020 onward to reflect an amortization deduction related to a prior period corporate restructuring. This change reduces our effective non-GAAP tax rate from 17% to 14%, or 300 basis points for fiscal year 2024 and going forward. Turning to earnings, we achieved $275 million of net income and delivered earnings of $1.41 per share, excluding the impact of the tax rate change. This tax change added an additional $0.16 to earnings per share, of which $0.11 relates to the first half of FY 2024 and $0.05 to Q3.
All in, we finished the quarter at $1.57 in earnings per share. Our weighted average share count for the quarter was 175 million shares. Moving to the performance of our segments. The Communication Solutions Group generated revenue of $847 million, down 8% on both a reported and core basis. Commercial communications revenue of $572 million declined 6%, while aerospace defense and government revenue of $275 million was down 10%. Altogether, CSG delivered gross margin of 67% and operating margin of 26%. The Electronic Industrial Solutions Group generated revenue of $370 million, down 20% or 24% on a core basis.
EISG reported gross margin of 58% and operating margin of 20%, an increase of approximately 100 basis points versus the prior quarter on slightly lower revenue. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow, we ended the quarter with $1.6 billion in cash and cash equivalents, generating cash flow from operations of $255 million and free cash flow of $222 million. Share purchases this quarter totaled 1.07 million shares at an average price per share of approximately $140 for a total consideration of $150 million. Now, turning to our outlook.
We expect to finish the year slightly better than anticipated, with fourth quarter revenue in the range of $1.245 billion-$1.265 billion, and Q4 earnings per share in the range of $1.53-$1.59, based on a weighted diluted share count of approximately 174 million shares. In closing, in an uncertain macro environment, we are executing on the dimensions that we control, capturing the current market opportunities and positioning Keysight for success as markets recover. With that, I will turn it back to Jason for the Q&A.
Jason Kary (VP of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Neil. Sierra, could you please give the instructions for the Q&A?
Operator (participant)
Absolutely. If you would like to ask a question, press star one. We ask that you please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up. To withdraw your question, press the pound sign. We will hold while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Mark Delaney (Analyst)
Yes, good afternoon, and thanks very much for taking my question. Orders were up slightly, both sequentially and year on year, after being down year on year for the prior six quarters. Maybe you can help us better understand how meaningful you think the pickup in orders is as a sign that the cyclical environment may be changing.
Neil Dougherty (CFO)
Yeah. Hi, Mark. Thanks for the question. Obviously, we're encouraged by the continued stability that we see in our base business, inflections that are material in our wireline business. Some signs of rebound in semi, although it's too early to call it. So and then there's some incremental weakness in the automotive sector. So we put it all in a blender and say, in this current environment, we're encouraged by this returning to slight year-over-year growth, as we've seen, but it might be too soon to call a recovery at this time. And the key point is, we're executing well, and we feel good about our own portfolio and its differentiation and the investments we have made to continue to keep that going.
Mark Delaney (Analyst)
Thanks for that, Satish. My other question was a follow-up on the orders. You mentioned AI as a positive contributor, yet again, to commercial communications. Maybe you can help us better understand what percentage of commercial communications orders are tied to AI at this point, and how impactful might AI be for revenue within commercial comms as you look out over the next twelve months or so? Thank you.
Neil Dougherty (CFO)
Thanks, Mark. Yeah, we're quite pleased that commercial communications orders grew double digits at this quarter. Again, as I mentioned, you know, we have a pretty diverse portfolio that caters to the entire communications ecosystem with solutions. So you can think of wireless and wireline, and the wireline ecosystem represents roughly about 40%-45% of our commercial communications business, and it's inflecting, driven by the AI spend. Now, when you think about how big this could be, longer term, I think the answer is becoming quite clear that AI is going to be a pretty transformational technology that's going to lead to evolutions of multiple underlying waves of, you know, standards and technologies, but it's not yet played out.
Today, the state of the affairs is it's a highly concentrated opportunity set, driven by the big investments made by the hyperscalers, and it is a constricted, sort of, constrained, I should say, sort of, environment from a supply perspective. So there are some challenges that the customers are working through. So we're seeing, and we're picking up some of that capital investments that are playing out through our manufacturing business, that is rapidly expanding. But equally, we're making good progress, I would say, in engaging with standardization-
... across the entire stack, and in making meaningful contributions in R&D, across compute, power and thermal, networking, protocols, and memory, all aspects of innovation, that customers are playing into. But again, the ecosystem, I believe, will broaden over time, and our goal has been, for the last eighteen months, to intercept this opportunity, feel good about our market position.
Mark Delaney (Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question today comes from Aaron Rakers with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
Aaron Rakers (Analyst)
Yes, thanks for taking the question, questions. I want to go back, you know, it's been a little while, but at the Analyst Day, you know, a little over a year ago, you had outlined a revenue CAGR of 5%-7%. I'm curious, as we kind of see the stabilization of orders, we think about, you know, the return of growth here, is there anything that's changed as we start to think about the next fiscal year that you would put out there for us to think about relative to that 5%-7% growth rate? And if so, I mean, you know, why wouldn't we expect even a stronger growth rate, just given the easy comps that you're looking at?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah. Thank you, Aaron. Obviously, you know, our long-term view of the opportunities and the underlying drivers remain unchanged, and so we would expect the business to trend back to those levels. That's point number one. However, you know, look, 2021 and 2022 have been outsized years for our markets, and 2023 was a flat year, a flattish year. We continue to deliver value, and 2024 is a down year for the market. And so our first priority is to say that we can the business conditions have stabilized. That was our sort of first milestone, I should say. And as a sign of that, we feel good about what we had shared with you last quarter, which is that the second half orders would be greater than the first half, okay? So that's the first thing.
Second is, you know, the shape of the recovery as we've seen, it's still a pretty mixed environment, and, you know, we're not, at this point, factoring in an in-phase recovery, if you will, across all our multiple end markets. And therefore, you know, we would, at this point say, we're, you know, we're thinking about this as a slow, gradual recovery in 2025. However, the actions that we're taking in terms of things we control, our innovations, engagements with customers, are all with an intent to maximize, and I feel good about Keysight's position. Obviously, we wanna see some more progression in the funnel dynamics, which are trending positive, but you'll hear more from Mark later.
You know, we wanna see that progress a bit more before we can, you know, talk about what those growth rates might be for 2025.
Aaron Rakers (Analyst)
Yeah, very helpful. And then just as a quick follow-up, I, I'm curious, as you, Neil, I think a quarter or two ago, you talked about longer-dated, backlog build or orders. I'm curious, any update on that and what you're seeing in the market today?
Yeah, the incoming order rate remains reasonably stable in that upper single digits level of mix, and on the revenue side, we are trending in that direction. We're not yet to the point where the revenues are at that level, but in the next quarter or two, we'd expect to achieve that.
Yeah. Thank you.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question... Apologies. Our next question comes from Matt Niknam with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.
Matthew Allen (Analyst)
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. This is Michael Allen on for Matt Niknam. I was just wondering if you could-
Hi, Michael
Dig a little more into the aerospace, the A&D segment. Is or are these delays just kind of pushing more into the next quarter, or is this kind of a slowdown of when you expect to see more of year-over-year growth rates, or just any more color on that?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah. Thank you. I'd say the overarching trends, given the geopolitics that we're under, are positive, so that's number one. There is bipartisan support for, you know, budgets in defense in the United States, and increasing support for raising budgets around the world. Japan just announced an increase and Europe is also focused on that, and I feel good about Keysight's focus, long-term focus we've had in defense modernization with quantum solutions, with solutions for electromagnetic spectrum operations, space and satellite. They're all aligned with the right priorities. Having said that, you know, the budgets and appropriation timing does have an impact, really hard to predict on a quarterly basis, but we like the pipeline that's building.
The prime contractor's backlog increases are also something we monitor in the U.S., and we feel good that those will all eventually flush into orders for us. This year, obviously, we're lapping a full year of 2023 of record levels for order and revenue for the aerospace and defense business, so you'll see some the revenue levels are down. To the point about the long-dated backlog, we have won some large systems businesses last year and this year, which will also convert into revenue next year. So you know, I would say the drivers remain intact, our position remains solid, and the pipeline is strong. Thank you.
Matthew Allen (Analyst)
Awesome. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from David Ridley-Lane with Bank of America. Your line is now open.
... Thank you. Yes, just on the automotive, I mean, I think, you know, the broader weakness in the EV market is well known. But, you know, I saw you mention clients delaying projects. Are they looking to kind of restart maybe at the beginning of calendar 2025? Just sort of gain a sense of the tone in those customer conversations.
Mark Wallace (Chief Customer Officer)
Yeah, David, this is Mark. You know, it's hard to predict when the timing is for some of these projects. Some of them have very long processes associated with the procurement process, including proof of concepts, and then the projects themselves last many quarters. It falls into this category of some of the long-dated business that we've been talking about for quite a while. What I think we are seeing, though, is the continuous focus on innovation with our key automotive customers. The AV side and software-defined vehicles that it's now migrating toward continued to show growth in the quarter sequentially. We are continuing to work with customers in all regions, so this is a global situation that we are well positioned for.
And what I would look for in twenty twenty-five is some of the moderation of the slowness that we've experienced for many quarters around manufacturing, as capacities are required to increase. And then I think given the regulatory situation, the political climate, and the long-term commitments to e-mobility, I would expect the pause that we're seeing right now in some of these battery test and EV projects to begin gaining some momentum, you know, in the next several quarters.
Understood. And then a quick one for Neil. Just to, just to check, when you said 14% tax rate going forward, that's, that's a good baseline modeling assumption for next fiscal year?
Neil Dougherty (CFO)
Yeah, for next fiscal year, we actually would expect it to that tax rate to hold for multiple years. The next thing that we're aware of is the U.S. GILTI tax rate. So that's a tax on offshore profitability, is scheduled to increase in 2027, so we'll need to evaluate the impact of that on Keysight once we get closer to that implementation date. And then the only other thing I would add is both of the current presidential candidates have prioritized tax legislation for the first year of a new administration. Obviously, we don't have any way to assess what those programs would be like, and so this doesn't account for anything that could be passed as part of a new presidential administration. But the status quo through 2027.
David Ridley-Lane (Analyst)
Got it. Thank you very much.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Meta Marshall (Analyst)
Great. Thanks. A couple of questions, maybe on kind of the communications business, and, what do you see as catalysts for improvement in fiscal twenty twenty-five in that business, even if they are gradual? And then just maybe as the second question, realize probably limited updates, but any update on Spirent acquisition? Thanks.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah, I would just say, you know, from a Spirent, and I'll take the second one first. You know, obviously, I'm gonna be limited by what I can add, but I think an update to the situation is that we've received the shareholder approval, Spirent shareholder approval for the transaction, and we're working through the regulatory process. And at this point, as we have stated before, we expect the transaction to be completed in the first half of fiscal twenty twenty-five. As far as your original question, I mean, it is quite exciting to see tremendous demand and inflection in the wireline business. And as I mentioned before, it is concentrated, and it is in a supply-constrained environment.
So it remains to be seen how long the manufacturing build-outs go, but that's a near-term dynamic, and we're capitalizing on it. I think the R&D opportunities associated with the multiple areas that I touched upon, the Keysight's engaging with customers on, we feel like is. It gives us a good pipeline to go execute for the next three- to five-year horizon because there is going to be a bigger, bigger wave. And with any of these technology trends, hard to really see it until it happens, so, but we're engaged, and we're making meaningful contributions for customers. But I would expect, you know, continued stability in wireless to continue and some increase perhaps in deployment activity across the globe, which would give further some signs of growth to our component test business there.
Then, as I think about the wireline side of the business, continued, you know, investments in R&D, maybe some moderating manufacturing investments in the second half of next year. So that's sort of our thinking at this point.
Meta Marshall (Analyst)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Mehdi Hosseini with Susquehanna Financial Group. Your line is now open.
Mehdi Hosseini (Analyst)
Yes, sir. Thanks for taking my question. A couple of follow-ups for me. Thanks for color on the booking trends into the October quarter. But if I were just to take a look into the Q1 fiscal year twenty twenty-five, historically, Q1 has been seasonally down in terms of bookings. And is there anything with the start of a new fiscal year that would make this year any different than prior years? And I have a follow-up.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah, I think as it relates to FY 2025, I think you know, given visibility is probably a little poor, but premature for us to give too much guidance. As Satish said, we are expecting a moderate recovery into 2025. I think as you have just noted in Keysight's core business, we do typically see a sequential decrease in the mid-single digits, orders and revenue, as we move from Q4 into Q1. The one thing that you will need to account for, however, is the ESI business has kind of the opposite seasonality, recognizing about 45%, 40%-45% of their revenues in the first quarter of Keysight's fiscal year.
So you'll have the history would suggest you have the Keysight business sequentially down and ESI sequentially up, and we'll have to see how that plays out, given the market environment.
Maybe Mark can make a comment on the funnel dynamics.
Mark Wallace (Chief Customer Officer)
Yeah. So the funnel, as we said before, is trending positive, I would say, and as I look at where we are today versus three months ago, so this is kind of a sequential trend. We're seeing more funnel intake, so that's new opportunities coming into our pipeline, and we're seeing the speed or the velocity at which some of those deals are going through the funnel and closing, increasing as well. So that gives us a short-term funnel that supports our guide for Q4, and we'll continue to watch this carefully. But there, you know, there are improving pipeline dynamics that we're seeing in the business.
Mehdi Hosseini (Analyst)
Great. Thanks for all the details. And if I may just have a follow-up on that. As you look into next fiscal year, calendar year, is there anything with wireless infrastructure, anything that would help with some technology upgrade? Would... And I mean like, would the existing base stations need to be upgraded from non-standalone to standalone? Or is there anything else that is out there that would also help with the upgrade? Or is the recovery in the core telecom, the wireless telecom, gonna be driven by just a capacity expansion?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah, it's a, it's a really good question, Mehdi. I think, you know, the thing, the thing about our business is we tend to be more on the R&D, you know, labs of our customers, so we're on the front end. So towards that end, we see continued progression of standards, Release 17, Release 18, Release 19 coming in, and new themes such as AI in the context of RAN becoming real, Open RAN deployments or Open RAN interoperability labs around the world are scaling. So all those are, you know, I would say, positive trends, you know, from a sequential basis. You know, obviously, we're down from the peak as, as the CapEx cycle for, from telcos are down, but the stability in the business is good.
We feel good about our engagements around these next generation themes that I mentioned, and then some earlier activity around 6G is picking up, which we're making contributions to. So, but again, you know, I would expect that the 5G business will have some stability because there's more deployment activities around the world, and that should provide it some more stability until 6G arrives.
Mehdi Hosseini (Analyst)
Thank you.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Adam Thalhimer with Thompson Davis & Co. Your line is now open.
Adam Thalhimer (Analyst)
Hey, good afternoon, guys. Nice quarter.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you, Adam.
Adam Thalhimer (Analyst)
Sorry if I missed this, but the sequential revenue growth that you're looking for in Q4, is that weighted more towards communications? Like, do you expect both segments to be sequentially up?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Hang on one moment. But yeah, so this is the seasonal uptick, obviously, we see in both businesses. It's probably gonna skew a little bit more towards the comms business than the industrial business at this point, given some of the pressure that we continue to see in manufacturing and automotive that Satish has just shared.
Typically, end of the year, Adam, we would expect a seasonal uptick in our aerospace and defense business, which has always been the case, so that's another contributor as well.
Adam Thalhimer (Analyst)
Okay. And then, there, on the semiconductor side, last quarter, you talked about fabrication delays. I think you said might come back late Q4 or 2025. Can you just give an update there?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Yeah, on the semi side, I'd say that the project activities are returning, and we started to see some sequential growth. The pipeline remains solid, and especially around, you know, memory, which is stronger, and technologies such as silicon photonics, where we had invested with customers, and now AI is driving a higher sense of urgency to pull the trigger on those activities. Some parts on the logic side still, you know, it's still a mixed environment on the logic side, but we feel good about sequential recovery in that business.
Adam Thalhimer (Analyst)
Great. Thanks, guys.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Rob Mason with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.
Rob Mason (Analyst)
Hi there. Yeah, just a quick question on the auto exposure here. I know you talked about the EV weakness and some of the political, you know, headwinds there, but on the autonomous vehicle side, just to look to kind of have you expand a little bit on how that leans on your core competencies of communications and maybe some color around what that opportunity might look like in the long term and how much as a percentage of total orders that is for that business?
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
... Yeah, so thank you. You know, as you rightfully noted, you know, the automotive business and the automotive marketplace is transforming, right? And I think for Keysight, historically, very low exposure in that area, and as we have said before, we have grown the business to $500 million, almost from a very small base. And a big part of that was really manufacturing. One-third of the business is manufacturing and productions, where we are engaged in the electronics manufacturing of it, and we have a differentiated position there. Two-thirds of the business, obviously, is all new mobility, EV, that Mark Wallace talked about earlier, and AV, as well. And it's a marketplace that continues to transform.
On one dimension you have, you know, Chinese battery commoditization pressures that customers are feeling, and yet the regulations around batteries and their safety needs dictate more testing there, in region. On the other side, I think the commercial ecosystem is starting to engage directly with automakers, and that's what Mark defined as the software-defined vehicle opportunity set. With silicon software combining, and it really plays to Keysight's traditional strength, and it's more a extension of what we do for traditional comms customers, and we're able to take those and go to market for them. Mark, anything further?
Mark Wallace (Chief Customer Officer)
Yeah, no, you hit on the last part. I was gonna point out that this crosses over many parts of our business going back many years, from our semiconductor and our comms EDA design tools, to more and more our security and cyber types of tools that go into these environments with silicon. They obviously leverage our strengths in commercial comms, which we've been capturing for many years with communication standards, connecting vehicles to everything, into the components that are used to sense, as well as the computational capabilities and the standards that go within the digital standards and the optical standards that go within the vehicle itself.
So that's the from radar to connected cars. This is crossing over multiple areas where Keysight has a leadership position, and that's why we continue to see such an active customer landscape.
Rob Mason (Analyst)
That, that's really helpful. Perfect. Thank you. And then I guess just one last one. You know, I know there was a lot of volatility in the end of July, but just curious on demand trends through maybe the back half of the quarter and an early look into, you know, August. You know, was there any material changes or, you know, was it just kind of like plodding along or, you know, any positive negatives that we should be aware of?
Mark Wallace (Chief Customer Officer)
We saw ramping in the quarter from month to month, but it wasn't necessarily unusual. We ended our first half in May, and that typically pulls some business in 'cause most of our sellers are on a six-month quota, so we had to start a little bit with a depleted funnel, but then we quickly drew that in. As I said, what we've seen throughout the last three months is the positive funnel dynamics, which is more funnel intake, and then moving that business through the funnel. I would say it was a fairly typical seasonality to the quarter, and we're two weeks into Q4 now.
Rob Mason (Analyst)
Great. Thank you.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you.
Mark Wallace (Chief Customer Officer)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Samik Chatterjee with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open.
Priyanka Thapa (Analyst)
Hi, this is Priyanka Thapa on for Samik Chatterjee. Just one question. You stated that you have a huge opportunity set because of hyperscaler investments. Are these hyperscalers direct customers for test equipment relative to the AI data center equipment testing? And which kind of areas can you potentially see this exposure to hyperscalers broadening out over time? Thanks.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you, Priyanka. So what I stated was obviously the hyperscaler investment in digital infrastructure upgrade and the capital equipment being deployed to upgrade the networks to be more AI ready, if you will, is proliferating to the ecosystem and the large supply chain, and we're benefiting from the manufacturing exposure there, so that was point number one. But we're increasing our exposure, as some of the hyperscalers enter into silicon programs and build their own organic capability. That's a growing customer base that we're continuing to expand into. We're also participating in consortiums, you know, for more open standardization that some of the hyperscalers are leading.
So we're making a growing contribution there, and we feel good about our ability to take the physical and protocol layer assets into this marketplace and provide total solutions for customers, not only in traditional areas you would expect us to, in computation or connectivity, but also into emulating, training, and inference schemes, so that you know, AI can scale effectively.
Priyanka Thapa (Analyst)
Thanks.
Satish Dhanasekaran (CEO)
Thank you.
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