Terex - Earnings Call - Q2 2014
July 24, 2014
Transcript
Speaker 0
Good morning. My name is Jody, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Terex Corporation Second Quarter twenty fourteen Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
Thank you. I would now like to turn today's conference over to Mr. Ronald DeFeo, Chairman and CEO of Terex Corporation. Please go ahead sir.
Speaker 1
Thank you, Jody, and good morning ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate your interest as always in Terex today. On the call with me this morning is Kevin Bradley, our Senior VP and Chief Financial Officer Kevin O'Reilly, Vice President of Operational Finance Tom Gelston, Vice President of Investor Relations and most of our leadership team including our business segment presidents who will be available on the call to answer your questions later on. As usual, a replay of this call will be archived on the Terex website www.terex.com under Audio Archives in the Investor Relations section. I'll begin with some overall comments.
Kevin will follow with a more detailed financial report and then I'll come back and provide a little bit more detail before we open it up to your questions. We will be following the presentation that was sent out with the earnings release. And I'd like when it comes to the question and answer period to ask that you only ask one question with a follow-up to give everyone a chance to participate. And given the other news other companies reporting today, we'll try to get this call done in a timely fashion and stick to about an hour, but we'll stay around as long as you have questions as well. Let me direct your attention to page two, which is the forward looking statement and non GAAP measures explanation.
We'll encourage you to read this as well as other items in our disclosures because the information we'll be discussing does include various risks and uncertainties as explained in detail in our 10 ks and 10 Q public filings. Now turning to page three. Second quarter results for 2014 delivered earnings per share of $0.76 from continuing operations. This represents a $0.59 per share increase compared to the prior year reported EPS of $0.17 and a $0.12 increase compared to the prior year adjusted earnings per share. Performance in the quarter was mixed both from a geographic and product perspective.
We continue to believe that an overall economic recovery is underway as well as a recovery for our lifting and material handling products. However, end markets remain somewhat difficult to predict and somewhat uncertain depending upon where you are around the globe. Overall growth was an encouraging 10% compared with the prior year period. Growth came primarily from our area work platform and MHPS businesses, which grew at 1817% respectively in the quarter. Construction and MHPS performance were generally in line with expectations and our cranes business, while down slightly compared with year ago, had a positive order intake and continues to improve supporting our expectations for a stronger second half twenty fourteen.
Our MP business, Materials Processing business is up slightly over the prior year quarter, but a little bit below our expectations from a revenue perspective. Free cash flow for the quarter was moderately negative at $19,000,000 in line with our expectations. We're reaffirming our twenty fourteen guidance of $2.5 to $2.8 per share with free cash flow of 200,000,000 to $250,000,000 We're making some minor modifications to that outlook that I'll cover later in the call. Let me now turn it over to Kevin Bradley, who will take you through the specific numbers for the quarter and the half year.
Speaker 2
Thanks, Ron, and good morning, everyone. Let's turn to slide four, which provides a year over year comparison of the second quarter on both an as reported and as adjusted basis. Although there were no adjustments in 2014, details of 2013 adjustments can be found in the appendix. Net sales for the quarter of $2,100,000,000 increased from the prior year by 10.4% or approximately $193,000,000 Changes in foreign exchange rates accounted for approximately three percentage points of the increase. Our AWP business posted 18% growth and MHPS was up 17%.
Construction was flat compared to the prior year and materials processing, although up 4%, fell slightly short of our expectations. Our cranes business, although down 3% compared to the prior year, showed strong sequential growth, up 28% over Q1. We are starting to see the benefits of a stronger order pattern reported over the last three quarters in this segment. Gross margin as adjusted decreased 50 basis points to 20.6 from the prior year, driven by product mix primarily in AWP and cranes and start up manufacturing costs related to our Oklahoma City facility. SG and A as a percentage of sales decreased from 13.1% as adjusted in 2013 to 12.8% for the quarter.
Income from operations increased $12,500,000 compared to the prior year as adjusted. As a percentage of sales, operating margins decreased slightly to 7.8% for the quarter. Net interest and other expense increased slightly over the prior year, driven largely by an increase in the average outstanding balance in our revolving credit facility. The effective tax rate was approximately 31.2% in the quarter compared to 38% as adjusted in 2013. This improvement was mainly due to the reduced impact of losses not benefited in the period.
For the quarter, earnings per share was $0.76 compared to an as adjusted earnings of $0.64
Speaker 3
in 2013.
Speaker 2
Our as reported EPS for Q2 twenty thirteen was $0.17 Net working capital as a percentage of annualized sales was 24.5%, increase from the 22.9% reported in Q2 of last year. The increase was driven primarily by increases in accounts receivable, reflecting the higher sales in the quarter, as well as an increase in inventory levels anticipating strong second half growth, largely in our AWP and MHPS segments. Return on invested capital increased to 10.6% from 5.3% in the prior year. Now turning to page five, we show our year to date results compared to '13. Sales growth for the period was 5.5, again led by strong AWP business up 17% and growth in our MHPS business up 13%.
Construction and cranes were down 410% respectively, while material processing was flat for the first six months. Gross margins during the period were in line with the prior year as adjusted results. Volume benefits in AWP and MHPS were offset by negative product mix in AWP and cranes and lower factory utilization in our crane segment affecting Q1. Operating margins remained unchanged for the first six months. Net interest and other expense increased slightly over the prior year and our effective tax rate was approximately 30% compared to 39.2% as adjusted in 2013.
Similar to our quarterly results, the decrease was mainly due to the reduced impact of losses not benefited in the period. Earnings per share for the period was up $0.17 or roughly 20% versus the same period in 2013 on an as adjusted basis. Now on page six, we provide a bridge breaking down the $148,000,000 increase in liquidity during the quarter. Free cash flow, which we define as cash from ops less CapEx was a use of $19,000,000 and in line with our expectations for the quarter. During the quarter, we completed the divestiture of our off highway truck business for $160,000,000 The majority of the proceeds were utilized to reduce the outstanding revolver balance in June.
We continued our stock repurchase and dividend programs with a combined use of $37,000,000 during the quarter. And lastly, the other category mainly reflects a reduction in the amount of LCs issued and outstanding under the company's revolving credit facility. With that, I'll turn it back to Ron.
Speaker 1
Yes. Thank you, Kevin. And moving on to page seven of the presentation of the net sales bridge for the quarter. Our revenue overall was up primarily as mentioned from AWP and MHPS as noted on that slide. Our Crane segment revenue was down about 3%, but experienced about 28% sequential improvement over the first half quarter which was as you know weak.
Regarding AWP, it's interesting to note that this represents an all time record quarter for net sales. On page eight, we review the revenue performance for the company by geography. In general, and I think this is a common theme, the traditional or developed markets of Europe and North America grew, while the balance of the world saw some softness. North America represented 44% of our business, while Europe was 29 and the rest of the world was 27%. While on this slide, I'm going to discuss some more details on our segment relative to our geographic performance, although that data is not included on the slide.
For somewhat competitive reasons, I'm not going to give you specific percentages, but general percentages on how our individual businesses perform by geography. For AWP, the second quarter performance was led by North America, where net sales rose more than 25% versus the prior year period. Europe also grew more than 15%. However, on a year to date basis, European growth is actually outpacing North American growth reflecting the improving trends in Europe, but still of course Europe is way below the past prior peak. Offsetting this is a challenging environment in Latin America, which declined over 30% in the quarter.
Although this business is quite small, we're encouraged by the progress we're making in China. Orders and backlog for the segment overall continue to be quite solid. Customers are performing well for AWP and we expect continued strength particularly in North America and Europe. Turning to the geographic performance of construction. North America was basically flat with year ago, but Europe grew over 15%.
And for this segment, Europe represents over 40% of our business. Our North American concrete business is strong, but we are experiencing some weakness in our compact business in North America. Overall, orders and backlog are about as expected. Cranes performance continued to be strong in Europe. In fact, Europe represented all of our growth with revenue up well over 50% compared with the prior year period for the second consecutive quarter.
Conversely, North America was down 15% for the second consecutive quarter and Australia continued to decline. Overall bookings were about in line with backlog. So for three consecutive quarters, we've had a positive book to bill ratio for this segment. First half orders were about 12% above last year supporting our expectation for a stronger second half. The Material Handling and Port Solutions business was mixed with basically flat net sales from the Material Handling business and about 50% growth from the port business.
We're encouraged by the stabilization of the material handling business compared with the prior year period and deliveries related to the large port equipment projects continue particularly in Europe. The backlog remains flat on a year over year basis and is about as expected. Materials processing net sales were positive in North America and Europe growing double digits in both regions, but somewhat offset by a meaningful decline in Australia and Latin America. So overall for the company consolidated developed developing markets remain challenging. I do expect the developing markets will improve if not later this year probably in 2015.
On page nine, operating profit improved in the quarter, up about $13,000,000 compared with a year ago adjusted levels. Our AWP business continued to deliver good margins at 15.8%. While volume was strong, the mix of business, planned investments in new product development and manufacturing footprint have continued to put modest pressure on the incremental margins in the short term. Construction improved in the quarter to report a profit of $4,000,000 decrease in operating profit for the Cranes segment is primarily volume related with a modest decrease versus last year. MHPS performance improved as a result of the higher sales and volume and the restructuring actions in 2013, but we continue to expect MHPS to be profitable during the remaining quarters of the year.
In fact, pretty similar to last year, the operating margin should improve meaningfully in the back half of the year. MP's performance was roughly in line with the prior year. Now turning to page 10 and our 2014 outlook. Given we're at the midpoint of the year, we thought it would be helpful to update our current view on guidance. And as you see, we've lowered upper end of sales of the sales range as a result of a more tepid recovery in many markets.
The lower sales level has had a modest impact on margins with our range lowered 25 basis points on both the high and low end. Essentially lower volume will somewhat, but not completely be offset by the effects of cost reduction activities and a better product mix. Other small changes we expect include $5,000,000 less in interest and other expense as well as adjusting the tax rate down to 30% to 33% from the prior 33% to 35%, we think we're getting the benefit from losses not benefited and actually expect our long term tax range to be coming down over time. Other considerations such as a slightly lower share count of $116,000,000 will let us reiterate the range of EPS $50 to $2.8 On page 11, we try to provide some commentary as additional perspective to the outlook change. Those changes are noted in bold.
AWP is now anticipated to grow net sales for the full year to slightly higher percentage, while moderating our growth expectations for both MHPS and MP. In terms of the operating margins, we're looking at slightly lower margins in both our cranes and MHPS segments as we believe underperformance in the first quarter for cranes customer delays in MHPS will make it too difficult to achieve the overall range previously given despite both segments anticipating a stronger back half of 2014. So to conclude on page 12, AWP is expected to continue to perform well both in terms of sales and margin opportunities. We remain positive about construction MHPS and NP segments responding to improving market conditions. We are encouraged by the recent order trends in cranes, but we'd really like to see that momentum continue.
We expect some acceleration of EPS in the back half of the year as happened in 2013. So consequently, we're reiterating our EPS guidance of $2.5 to $2.8 a share. Fundamentally, we're positive about the improvements going on in the company. Our operating environment remains somewhat challenged depending upon where you are in the world. Our organization is functioning generally well continuing to invest in new products and new sales initiatives.
We do have some margin challenges around the company, but we're confidently addressing them. So I'd now like to open it up to your questions. So operator, please open the lines and let's begin the question.
Speaker 0
Yes, sir. Your first question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase from Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 4
So maybe just a question on the longer term outlook. Clearly end markets are coming in a bit weaker than you had expected in the second half. But my question is given that setup and what we've seen in order and backlog trends, what's your level of confidence in your $5 target for 16 at this point?
Speaker 1
Nicole, I don't think anything's changed here for us. We set a goal of $5 a share. We believe that's achievable. We've said that about half from this point on about half of it has to come from the markets and about half will come from things that we can control and initiate ourselves. We don't think that's changed.
There's a few bumps in the road at this point in time relative to end markets and perhaps a little bit of our own execution. But we're in businesses that have performed at that level before and not all of our businesses have to perform at peak levels to achieve that in 2016. '16. Again, it's a goal. It's not guidance.
But we think as an organization that's within our reach to achieve. And we're going to do everything we can within our ability to execute to make that happen. We've got strings we can pull relative to cost, relative to manufacturing footprint, relative to sales initiatives, new products that are underway. And by 2016, all of the difficult challenges of the Tier four engine conversion will be behind us and we will have fresh new products in the marketplace. So we're pretty confident that we can achieve that level.
Timing is always a bit of a challenge when you're looking out two plus years, but I don't think anything's changed.
Speaker 4
Okay. That's really helpful, Ron. Thanks. And then secondly, I'm going to dig a little bit into AWP margins. Can you guys give a sense of the impact of the manufacturing facility move there?
I'm just trying to get a sense of 11% incrementals were a little bit weaker than we had expected this quarter, but where could they go in the second half given that mix is still a headwind?
Speaker 1
Well, no doubt that incrementals were a little bit disappointing for us. I've tried to guide the marketplace to a more balanced view of the margins for AWP because there's a whole mix of things underway within this segment. I mean fundamentally 15 plus percent operating margins for a business in this category are pretty good. But we have a lot of work to do in our area work platform business to position this segment for better through the cycle performance. And that includes changing our manufacturing footprint from being less West Coast centric to more balanced around the world.
It includes introduction products that position us competitively at the top end of the product range. It includes managing our supply base in a more global way. So there's a lot of things underway at the AWP business to kind of position this segment for continued solid performance. But it also includes customer pushback to us on a few parts of the product category where they'd like to see a little bit better returns. And whenever our customer base is telling us things like that, we got to make sure we stay competitive.
Also the Tier four engine conversion continues to affect this side of the business. Now you specifically asked about second half margins. So I'm going to ask Matt to try and give you a sense of that with that beginning commentary. Matt?
Speaker 5
Yes. Okay. Thanks, Nicole. The obviously, Q2, it was a historic record for us on the sales side at 18% year over year increase, but the margins only came up 11%. So our gross profit incrementally, the gross profit line at 22.9% was down 1.3%.
I'll try to give you a little bit more detail on the breakout of that. There's three main contributing factors to the incremental margin deterioration. The first one is the mix and it's basically driven by a planned shift to the telehandler product line where we have typically not had a full product line and we have not had significant share. It's also the fastest growth category. And to give you a perspective on it, in the first half of the year, year to date our sales on telehandlers are up 50% plus.
And if you look at the other categories where we typically get our revenue, the second highest category is scissors and then BOOMS would be the smallest. But all of those are double digit growth. So they're all good healthy growth categories. The second piece of the incremental margin deterioration is in manufacturing productivity. A lot of it has to do with the manufacturing startup of Pellehammler production in Oklahoma City.
Again, that's a planned investment in capacity. It's going to be a multiyear endeavor. The first unit shipped in June, which was a great milestone for us. And what we expect going forward is we're going to continue to see efficiency gains out of the Oklahoma City plant as they get more unit production underneath their belt. We also from a manufacturing productivity perspective, we had a bit of inefficiency around inventory conversions.
So we could see that the market was good as we went through Q1 and customers wanted a large part of the product in Q2. So we built up inventory and we had to do some inventory conversions and that required overtime and some inefficiencies that we will work through as we go through Q3 and Q4 because we know that we've got the inventory out of here and we're starting to really dial in on our productivity. The final piece that contributed was steel. If you look at our North American plate cost, in 2013, we were getting benefits from the way we were buying steel. And in late twenty thirteen, the steel plate prices went up and we're seeing the effect of that.
So we do expect to see some improvement over time, but we're sticking to the margin stable in the mid teens.
Speaker 4
Okay. Thanks guys. This really helpful.
Speaker 1
Okay. Thank you, Nicole.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook from Credit Suisse.
Speaker 6
Hi. Good morning. Two questions. Ron, I guess the first relates to your guidance. I guess just given that some of the markets are behind your expectations and I understand that you have tax which is more favorable and slightly lower interest expense.
But just based on the numbers you're putting out there, have a hard time under any scenario getting to the higher end of the range. And if anything, I feel like the low end to the midpoint or between the low end to the midpoint is more of a reasonable expectation given where we are in the second quarter. So can you just help me understand if you had a good probability on hitting the high end or why even keep it out there just given the headwind that we've seen in the first half? And then I guess my second question either Ron or Tim relates to Crane. You mentioned strength in Europe.
If you could just provide a little more color in what why The U. S. Markets were weaker? Is it a competitive dynamic thing? Is it tariff market share?
Or is it more market related? And just sort of overall your confidence level that the marine life is recovering? Thank you.
Speaker 1
Okay, Jamie. Thank you. Certainly, this is something the range of our EPS guidance we talked long about within the company. And we certainly did consider the possibility of taking down the top end of the range. But when we examined our business segment by segment, market by market, we still think there's a meaningful possibility that we can come within if not the exact top end of the range somewhere in the middle if not north of the middle.
But of course the same probability could be said with coming in at the bottom end of that range. So that's why we kept the range still at about $0.30 a share. I think it's important to point out what the incremental margins have to be for us compared to the second half of last year, okay? They have to be in the low 20s. That's not an unreasonable expectation for us given where we see the revenue, which is now a little bit lower than what we had previously said.
So all in all segment by segment, we went through a pretty good analysis and we feel that the range is still the right range.
Speaker 6
But Ron in terms of the segments that would drive that is it just aerials you worked through some of the issues the margins perhaps surprised on the upside in Crane like what are the one or two segments you think really need to drive the potential for the mid to the upper end?
Speaker 1
Well, I think the big change that should happen similar to last year will be MHPS. And it typically gets a pretty strong service and parts business in the third and fourth quarters as well as having a very strong expectation in the revenue from port deliveries. And Steve could address that if you like. But we really are expecting a lot more port deliveries, port equipment deliveries in the second half of this year. Now probably not as much as we would at the beginning of the year would have liked, because we've as we've mentioned we said there's about a $50,000,000 push out that's likely now to be pushed out into 2015.
But it's not insignificant the Crane second half margins, particularly when you consider that first quarter was basically zero. So if you're going to be profitable for two quarters in the 2014 meaningfully profitable as we expect with an order level that supports that the incremental margins are going to be driven by cranes as well. So I think that's how I look at it. We can talk about it in more detail, but I want to have Tim answer your second question as well.
Speaker 6
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 7
Your question about backlog and sort of overall environment in North America and Europe. We saw at CONEXPO a pretty healthy order intake by our North American customers. Many of those orders were for, let's call it, late 2Q, 3Q delivery. So we've seen some improvement in overall order activity and our backlog in North America is at a very healthy level. A lot of those shipments will occur in the third and early fourth quarter.
The overall North American market is really driven by energy. It's heavily dominated by the Gulf Region and some in Canada and the Upper Midwest where the fracking activity is taking place. So North America is down, but it's not unhealthy. Europe on the other hand is improving. And I think what we see going on there is strength in Northern Europe, particularly in The U.
K. And some of the Northern European markets. And keep in mind that a lot of the largest crane rental companies in the world are headquartered in Northern Europe. So a lot of activity happens through those customers and we see we're seeing strength from the larger players who are taking jobs and placing equipment around the world. So when you sum it all up, Europe is improving.
The larger customers are seeing that and taking more product in, which we think is a healthy sign for the market.
Speaker 6
But in terms of the North America commentary and just the strength in energy, I mean, terms of was it there was more orders in the first quarter because of CONEXPO and it didn't happen in the second quarter, so there was pull forward? Or was there some competitive dynamic?
Speaker 7
Well, is we've said for the last couple of quarters that there's been more field inventory that's been out there. And I think we saw even into the second quarter that sell through took a little longer than we anticipated to happen. But as we sit here today, I think we're feeling that there's more balance in the overall field inventory compared to where we were let's say six months ago. I wouldn't characterize it as an extraordinary competitive dynamic.
Speaker 6
Okay, great. Thank you very much. I'll get back in queue.
Speaker 1
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Ted Grace from Susquehanna.
Speaker 8
Hi, guys. How are you doing?
Speaker 7
Good, Ted.
Speaker 8
Ron, I just wanted to follow-up on Jamie's question on guidance and the comment you made on incrementals in the back half. I definitely don't want to get bogged down in math on the call. But when we played with kind of the numbers that were in your deck versus what you did in the first half, I guess we were coming with an incremental closer to 60%. And I was wondering if you could just quickly bridge what your the 20% you were talking about what that implies for or just what the revenue gain and what the operating income improvements were just so we're talking apples to apples?
Speaker 1
Sure, Ted. Really the difference we're talking here is I'm comparing it with the second half of last year and you're comparing it with the first half of this year. And a huge difference of course is the fact that in the first half of this year there was zero margin in the first quarter in cranes and a little bit of a decremental in the AWP kind of situation or clearly not the kind of incremental we would like. Let's not get bogged down. If you do compare it simply year over year, we've got to do a little bit better in the second half this year than we did in the second half last year.
But if you compare the splits of 2013, we did a lot better in the second half than we did in the first half in twenty thirteen. So I think with a little bit more revenue with cranes on an upward trajectory versus a negative trajectory in 2013. Remember, the crane fall off that bottomed in the first quarter really began in Q2 of last year. So we had progressively negative performance in Q3, Q4 with the worst performance in Q1. And we think at least that's the management team's view that we're in a progressively improving environment.
How high is high is something yet to be determined, but that's what we think is happening.
Speaker 8
Okay. That's super helpful. So kind of related in the second question I was hoping to ask is, I don't know if it's Ron or Steve walking through MHPS, but maybe just an update on kind of where Rotterdam stands in Long Beach. And in terms of the it looks like about 100,000,000 of push out based on your revenue provisions. Can you just walk through kind of what the composition of that looks like and how we should think about that timing?
Speaker 1
Great. Steve, why don't you address that?
Speaker 9
Yes, sure. Hi, Ted. Let me walk through a couple of things and maybe also to answer some of Jamie's questions. And I think what makes me or the team believe in MH and PS in the back half is in three buckets. And one is the backlog that we have just in our core business.
We have several facilities that have a very nice backlog for the rest of the year. We know that we've got deliveries in Q3 and a lot in Q4. So many of us will not have a Christmas again like last year, but that's the nature of our business. The second area is automation. So as you mentioned Ted, I don't think the gap is that big.
So let me walk through it. But plan was to deliver $294,000,000 of automation projects. We mentioned a $50,000,000 delta, which we think will put us at about $255,000,000 this year. Year to date, we've delivered $67,000,000 and our plan is to deliver $190,000,000 in the second half of this year. So we're pretty confident that that's going to happen.
As I said before, the product is at the port. It's really just a revenue recognition issue and I'm pretty confident that that's going to happen. The last bucket is really in the MH improvement. And as Ron mentioned, the back half of the year for MH is a big services business and we see momentum in the first half on services and parts and we're going to continue to see that in Q3 and Q4. So hopefully that gives you a little bit more color.
I believe that at least within MH and PS we can deliver.
Speaker 8
And in terms of the cost savings that you're in the second quarter, can we maybe just walk through what you realized and how much incremental benefit we'll have in the second half?
Speaker 9
Cost savings because it got multiple was it cost saving projects?
Speaker 2
Yes, yes. I was
Speaker 8
just hoping to get an update on what the realized cost savings benefits were in the second quarter And kind of what the update is on the second half expectation of benefit?
Speaker 9
Hang on let me look that up.
Speaker 1
Think Kevin has. Kevin I Bradley has
Speaker 2
can take that. For Steve in the quarter between 4,000,000 and $5,000,000 And we're still looking at the total in the full year for Steve for MHPS of $20,000,000
Speaker 8
Okay. And Kevin just the last thing I wanted to ask is corporate expense in the quarter was a little higher than we were modeling. Was there anything unusual in the second quarter? And how should we think about that kind of in the back half?
Speaker 2
Yes. And on a year on year basis, the quarter was high up about 9,000,000 There were some things that we shouldn't anticipate in the run rate going forward. TFS was a little bit high on investment in rate buy down subsidies. We had some extra FX in the quarter. And then lastly, I'd say just the timing of when things hit between Q1 and Q2, we should expect a run rate in corporate and other in the 6,000,000 to $7,000,000 and that's what we're seeing for the back half of the year per quarter 6,000,000 to $7,000,000 negative.
Speaker 8
Okay, great. That's very helpful guys. Thanks a lot and best of luck this quarter.
Speaker 1
Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Kaplowitz from Barclays.
Speaker 10
Good morning, guys. Ron, so this is related I think Ted's question a bit, but maybe if you could step back and talk about the progress you've made on self help. It's been sort of a big initiative for you guys. You just sort of gave the cost breakdown from MHTS. But the segment there was still just above breakeven, which I think is a little disappointing to some people that that's where it is.
Is that just sort of the delays in the work and self help has been what you thought? Or has it been a little harder than
Speaker 1
Well, Andy, answer to your question is a complicated answer because it really crosses all of our segments and it includes both operating initiatives as well as the kinds of initiatives that drive lower tax rates and improve our corporate efficiency, okay? So and if your question is focused on MHPS, there's a number of things there that are progressing, but do take time and the costs come out gradually. The restructuring expense took place right away, but the costs come out gradually. And I think the last question was asked and answered on what that is and what we expect this year versus next year. But let's not get bogged down just in MHPS because it's a glass half empty or half full conversation there because if I look at MHPS' second quarter performance compared to last year where we had a substantive operating loss with a little bit less revenue, we are at a breakeven and we had a number of unusual expense items in the second quarter of this year, but businesses have unusual expense items.
So I don't want to call those out as onetime costs, but that really hit that segment. But if I can back up and talk about the kinds of things underway in the company of Self Help, it is about the manufacturing footprint changes at Aerial Work Platforms. It is about the new product initiatives at Aerial Aerial Work Platforms. If I turn to the crane business, it is about a complete redesign of several of our higher cost products in cranes to get substantive cost out of those cranes so that when we sell those cranes in the future we make a greater margin than a lesser margin that we currently have. And it is about eliminating about 30% of the models that we offer in trains.
Those are kind of self help initiatives. If I turn to the MHPS business, there's more to be done in MHPS. I'm not about to make news today here, but we've got work to do in our manufacturing footprint. We have work to do in our sales and services centers around the world. And those are things that we have identified for a fair amount of time that we're still going to do.
If I then turn to the construction business, while we made $4,000,000 of profit in Q2, that certainly isn't the high watermark in our view of what that business can do. And we've got a number of let's call it product and market initiatives that are underway that will introduce some new products and product changes later this year, early next year in that segment. And frankly, we are expecting that as steel prices increase, our Fuchs business, which has been a highly profitable business will rebound and profits will improve there. If I then turn to the kinds of corporate initiatives that we've identified, shared services, we're going to move from over 70 corporate accounting locations to eight, okay? We are going to not just do accounts payables receivable management, but we're going to do the accounting initiatives and relieve a lot of our field teams from doing the kind of local accounting to consolidating them through enterprise controlled systems.
That's an initiative over the next couple of years. The tax changes that are underway are not just related to lowering our tax rate, but they're related to servicing our customers better. As we create Terex Global, we can now invoice our customers for 10 of our products that would have previously required 10 different invoices from 10 different legal entities, simplifying the lives for our customers and improving our own ability to collect receivables, which by the way is a big working capital opportunity, working capital on receivables and payables management. So there's a lot of self help still left in Terex. For me to give you a P and L balance sheet here today and that's why I try to keep it simple.
About half of what we're trying to do is going to come from self help, but we do need some help from the market. That's why I try to keep it simple. I hope that helps Andy. We're unlikely to give you a reconciliation of all those things, but I think you can get a sense that they're pretty significant.
Speaker 10
Ron, that is helpful. So just following up, I mean you mentioned construction, first time that I can remember a profit in a very long time. You still call for breakeven for that segment for the year. But why wouldn't margin continue to be continue to improve or at least be what it was in the quarter if Europe is improving for you guys and Fuchs is slowly getting better? I know you've got some North American weakness, but the cement mixes are pretty good.
So maybe there's a little bit of upside there?
Speaker 1
There might be. But at this stage that little bit of upside isn't going to move the needle for the company right now. And so we really didn't think it was appropriate to change that outlook at this stage.
Speaker 10
Okay. That's helpful. Thanks guys.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs.
Speaker 11
Good morning, gentlemen. It's Matt Ryback on behalf of Jerry. Starting off, could you just maybe talk a little bit about your prospect list for additional Port Solutions projects going forward?
Speaker 1
Good question. I'm going to let Steve answer that carefully, so that he doesn't give our competition a roadmap to our business.
Speaker 9
Yes. Thanks, Matt. Yes, I mean, we have a pipeline for sure of automation projects. And I would say we have good visibility to about half a dozen right now. And I don't want to mention where they are, but they're all over the globe.
And we're planning on at least trying to get hopefully one of those done by the end of this year beginning of next year.
Speaker 11
Got it. Thank you. That's helpful. And then could you maybe just talk a little bit about the cadence of orders in Europe that you saw over the course of the quarter?
Speaker 9
In Port Solutions, Matt?
Speaker 11
In general for the entire business.
Speaker 1
In general. Okay. Why don't we start with our frames guys then I'd ask Matt to comment on that as well.
Speaker 7
Yes. Okay. Matt, thank you. This is Tim. Europe for us has continued to improve through the really since the low point of the third quarter last year.
We saw a number of customers continue to place orders for us. And I think we're feeling strong feeling good about our European business. Our Tower Crane business, which is based in Europe is seeing continued improvement. So I think we feel reasonably good about our European operation, think European one.
Speaker 1
Matt, just be careful someone on the call is moving papers around. It makes a little noise. But Matt, Fioran, why don't you comment?
Speaker 2
As well?
Speaker 5
Far as the cadence of orders in Europe for AWP, what we saw is we had a very strong quarter right out of the chutes in Q1. And as Ron mentioned, Q2 carried on at about 15%. But the other thing that happened in Q2 is our backlog continued to climb slightly, but it climbed in Europe at the end of Q2. So we've we're seeing that it's continuing to be strong. One of the differences that we're seeing is that The U.
K. In particular, which has a large concentration of aerial work platforms has really kicked up and you can see it in the market data. So Europe we're very encouraged about.
Speaker 1
Perfect. Go ahead. Matt, I'll just make another overall comment. If I compare Q2 to Q2 twenty fourteen to Q2 twenty thirteen, every business was north of growth, growth north of 5% more likely in the double digits and even higher double digits. And that's a similar pattern to what we saw in Q1.
So all of our businesses in Europe are beginning to show year over year meaningful improvement.
Speaker 11
Thank you very much. It's very helpful.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of David Raffo from ISI Group.
Speaker 9
Yeah. Hi. Good morning.
Speaker 3
make sure I just kind of can't let it pass because the math is not making sense. And it seems like from the guidance when you look at the segment, it would seem roughly you're looking for revenue upside to the $7,400,000,000 I mean if you just do the math on the segment, it would imply upside to revenue that then Ron you can do 20 plus percent, 25% incremental in the second half to get to the number. But the way the guidance is laid out for total sales, it is implying, no, you do need to do 45%, 50% incrementals in the second half. So, I mean, just looking at the math, I mean, could we just summarize it as maybe the revenue guide is on the light side and what you think you can do internally then allows that lower incremental? I mean the math is the math.
I mean it is implying a big incremental second half of the year if you really only do $7,400,000,000 in the second half for the full year sales.
Speaker 1
Compared to the first half David but not
Speaker 3
No, no, Rhonda the realignment with the Volvo truck sales when you sold hauler, the math is the math. The release that we sent out in late February providing that restatement to year ago quarters. If you have revenue growth only 3.4% in the second half of the year to do the $7,400,000,000 for the full year, you're going to need margin. I mean, let's be clear the tax rate for the second half of the year is only 31.5%,
Speaker 7
right? Right.
Speaker 3
That's the right tax rate?
Speaker 1
Well, that's of range. Midpoint of the range.
Speaker 3
Yes. So I'm just trying to I mean it is what it is. Then again on your segment guidance, can see the implied yes, maybe we can do more like $7,500,000,000 I'm just trying to make sure the Street understands leaving this call that if the revenue is what the total company guidance is, it's a big incremental. So maybe there's revenue upside.
Speaker 2
Yes. So David, obviously, got to reflect strong improvement in the back half. We've got to be at the top end or better of the range on revenue. We've got got to be at the lower end of the range on tax in order to get into the top half of that EPS guidance as well as the interest in other has to be on the better side of that. And we've got to get some mix, right?
The math is to be clear. A lot of that a lot of the growth has to come from mat and it's going to have to be at a lot stronger incremental margins than we've shown in the first half of the year. But we think we've got ability to do that and deliver it. So is there risk to the top half of the range? Absolutely just as Ron said, but we have a couple of paths to get there.
And a lot of it has to do with both AWP and cranes having much stronger second half both on growth and on their incrementals.
Speaker 3
Yes. And to that point obviously the volume hurt cranes in the first half. But the second half and I'm sorry I hopped on the call late. The second half besides volume also have a better mix in cranes right? That's already the backlog already has a better mix for second half shipments than we saw right?
That's And big lastly I don't know if you gave a clear and I'm sure if you want to, but the tax rate exiting the year, if we had a model tax rate for 2015, keep the second half run rate? Or could it move lower? And if you don't mind trying to quantify it would be helpful.
Speaker 2
Sure. Yes. So we see where we are at Q2 right continuing through year end. And certainly that's being driven by the losses not benefited. Just to give a little bit of color on that.
A lot of our losses not benefited has been coming out of Southern Europe, India and China. A lot of the initiatives that we've taken the lead on have addressed those in those geographies. Restructuring that Steve did in Italy and in India has helped. Getting the profitability in our AWP factory in China has helped. Less losses in some of our JVs in the crane side in China has certainly helped.
So a lot of this self help around addressing problem issues in P and Ls in these countries is improving. And David, we would expect that to continue into next year. At the same time and Ron touched on it, the jurisdictional mix in particular as we drive more of this global trading model to improve our commercial how we face off with our customers is also going to increase its impact going into 2015. So yes, I would expect this lower level as we leave the year to stay the same and potentially has the ability to improve into the 2015. Into all of
Speaker 7
2015.
Speaker 3
That's great. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Eli Lusgarten from Longbow Securities.
Speaker 7
Good morning, everyone. Hello, Eli. Had a lot of questions, but can you just give me maybe a little more help on the top line guidance? And what's really changed? Because in order to when I play with numbers, in order to stay in the 7.3% to 7.5%, almost all your guidance has to be at the low end, seems at this point.
Because we knew the Volvo sale was going to go through and we strengthened the AWP outlook actually somewhat. So what's really changed? Where are the big number changes? Knew about
Speaker 5
100 the
Speaker 0
sale of the division. We knew about the $50,000,000 deferral of Port Solutions shipment. So I mean, what's really changed to drive the numbers down to 7,000
Speaker 7
70 5? Or is that still maybe little bit conservative kind of number? I just have trouble getting there unless eliminations turns out to be a huge number.
Speaker 1
Well, don't think it's going be eliminations. What we when we provided the initial range of revenue, it did not include the port business being pushed out. It was pushed out of the first quarter into what we thought was the end of the year. It's now moving out of the year into next year. That's approximately $50,000,000 okay?
So that's not the whole amount. We also have seen weaker businesses in Latin America and in Australia than we expected. And those are pretty meaningful. But on the other hand, there's some more positive business in our European operations. So I guess in the overall view of the company revenue has been hard to come by even though we produced a 10 percentage point increase in revenue in the quarter, but only 5.5% for the first half.
So as we look at things, we don't want people to be overly optimistic, but at the same time we don't want people to be overly negative either. And that's a delicate balance to walk. So we thought it more appropriate to take the top end of the revenue guidance down a little bit and for us to work on those things that we can control to get the margins up. Eli, at the end of the day, the revenue we're going to try and get as much revenue as we possibly can, because obviously if we grow our AWP revenue at 15 plus margin, it helps everything. If we can get the cranes guys to grow their revenue and deliver, their margins are improving.
So those are two really important areas that will drive the net net for the company.
Speaker 2
Ron, the only thing I would add too is on the MP business, although not our largest segment, clearly we were calling for growth that's not showing up. We're basically flat year on year in the first half. And the second half growth that we had called out in the initial guidance doesn't seem to be materializing. So there's risk in the MP although it's not the biggest segment.
Speaker 7
And I guess in the growth rates I think you said 3% top line came from foreign currency I think is what you said at the beginning.
Speaker 1
That's right.
Speaker 7
You have a foreign currency was there any impact on foreign currency on profitability? And you have a are you basically foreign currency neutral in the second half?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Modest increase I mean modest effect on profitability and really more from our European based businesses than AWP. And I think trying to forecast foreign currency in the second half of the year, we're not doing. So I would say it's probably not built into our forecast.
Speaker 7
Yes. So it's basically
Speaker 12
in the survey.
Speaker 3
Thank you
Speaker 5
very, very much.
Speaker 0
Ladies and gentlemen, due to the allotted time set for questions, we do have time for two further questions. Your next question comes from the line of Vishal Shah from Deutsche Bank.
Speaker 12
On the line for Vishal. Thanks for taking my question. I'd just like to get some questions answered on the demographics of the Crane backlog. What does your product mix look like? What are margins compared to where they are currently?
And what percentage of backlog will be delivered in 2014?
Speaker 7
Okay. I'll take that. Our crane backlog has three components to it. One is, of course, the crane product businesses and then we have fairly sizable backlog in our utility products business. The utility products are mostly North American based.
And I would say the crane piece of it, so the crane products piece of our backlog is strongly oriented to European delivery with the second piece of that really being North American delivery. The profile of the backlog, I'm not going to get into the details of it, but I would say that the mix of the backlog from a profitability standpoint is moving in our favor with some of the higher margin products strengthening and with the exception of our Australian business. But overall, I think the profile of our Crane backlog looks pretty good as we head into the second half of the year.
Speaker 12
Great. And I'll stick with cranes for my next question. So could you give an update on where you think we are in terms of the rough terrain business? To what extent is there overcapacity still? To what extent is there inventory adjustments required?
And how far off of a bottom are we?
Speaker 7
Yes. The Rough Terrain product line really serves three markets. It serves North America, it serves Latin America and it serves The Middle East. The Middle East got off to a very slow start. We had a very depressed first quarter, but that's beginning to sell through and we're beginning to see some improvement.
The Latin American business is still relatively weak, but we're seeing a few pockets of improvement. Now I wouldn't characterize it as strength, but a few pockets improvement. In the North American business, as I said earlier on the call, we took a lot of orders at CONEXPO for Rough Terrain products that will start shipping here in the third quarter and into the early fourth quarter. And as we talk to the sales teams, think I we feel like the rough terrain business is beginning to improve. The field inventories are more in line than they have been at any point in the last six to eight months.
And I think we feel like it's to improve. Great. Thank you.
Speaker 0
Your last question comes from the line of Steven Volkmann from Jefferies. Mr. Volkmann, your line is open.
Speaker 1
Well, why don't you take one more then go ahead.
Speaker 0
Yes, sir. Your next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre from Robert W. Baird.
Speaker 12
Yes, it's Mig Dobre. Good morning. My question here is on AWP and just looking for some clarification from you Ron. Talked about some of the headwinds to margin such as mix, some investment. To me, it sounds like this is something that could be with you for a while.
Is it fair to say that some of these challenges would extend beyond the second half the year maybe into 2015 or should we think otherwise?
Speaker 1
Well, I think in the context of excellent overall margins, I think we are going to continue to try and reshape the business somewhat. I think what I would like to just say at a high level is that I wouldn't want to model the margins where incrementals continue forever, okay? I think we have said that we expect mid teens kind of margins on the business. And I think that's where we should model the business. I don't think we should try and model the business at this stage at dramatically higher margin business.
I don't think our customers will allow us to make that level of money. I think the long term investment required for the business is such that we're going to have to continue spending some money on product and manufacturing footprint. But at the same time, I expect multiple years of continued positive performance on this business. And I think the net effect of our initiatives will actually be longer term to get the margins up. But I think it's still a little bit in our future as opposed to what you should expect next quarter.
Speaker 12
Okay. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1
Thanks. All right. At
Speaker 0
this time, there are no further questions. I will turn it back over to the presenters for closing remarks.
Speaker 1
I want to thank everybody for their interest. We've tried to keep this call within about an hour. We recognize there's other people recording today. But clearly, if there's any information or follow-up required, please call us Tom, Kevin, myself or anybody within the company would be happy to address any and all of your questions. And thank you for your continued support of Terex.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 0
Thank you. That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
