Tyson Foods - Earnings Call - Q4 2020
November 16, 2020
Transcript
Speaker 0
Good morning and welcome to the Tyson Foods Fourth Quarter twenty twenty Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to John Cottle, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Sir, please go ahead.
Speaker 1
Good morning and welcome to the Tyson Foods Incorporated earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and fiscal year of 2020. On today's call are Dean Banks, President and Chief Executive Officer and Stuart Glendening, our Chief Financial Officer. Slides accompanying today's prepared remarks are available as a supplemental report in the Resource Center of the Tyson Investor website at ir.tyson.com. Tyson Foods issued an earnings release this morning, which has been furnished to the SEC on Form eight ks and is available on our website at ir.tyson.com. Our remarks today include forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
These statements reflect current views with respect to future events, such as Tyson's outlook for future performance on sales, margin, earnings growth and various other aspects of its business. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. I encourage you to read the release issued earlier this morning and our filings with the SEC for a discussion of the risks that can affect our business, including those listed in our 10 ks filed this morning. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded on Monday, November 16 at 9AM Eastern Time. A replay of today's call will be available on our website approximately one hour after the conclusion of this call.
This broadcast is the property of Tyson Foods and any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the express written consent of Tyson Foods is strictly prohibited. Please note that our references to earnings per share, operating income and operating margin in today's remarks are on an adjusted basis unless otherwise noted. For reconciliations to our GAAP results, please refer to this morning's press release. I'll now turn the call over to Dean Banks.
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Thank you, John, and many thanks to everyone listening for their interest in Tyson Foods. We hope you're all safe and healthy as we continue to navigate the pandemic. I'm thankful for the efforts of every one of Tyson's nearly 140,000 team members and want you to know their health and safety remain our top priority. The dedication of our team members and the future of our business have me excited to be in my first earnings call as CEO. We have an exceptional leadership team with tremendous experience across protein production, consumer insights, innovation, technology and more.
And I am truly excited about the growth and success we will drive as a team. We've recently faced unprecedented and unfamiliar times, but our business is settling down and we're uniquely positioned to fulfill our long term strategy. Our business performed well and delivered strong fourth quarter and full year results. Our team members, agricultural partners and customers have shown resilience. This has enabled us to maintain and accelerate our efforts to provide global consumers with a safe and accessible food supply.
Before we talk about fourth quarter results, I'd like to cover our team's accomplishments over the last twelve months. At the onset of the pandemic, we launched an internal task force to address the virus. We made substantial investments in our personal protective equipment, social distancing, safeguards and other increased health and safety measures across our business. We've seen a dramatic reduction in active cases involving our team members since last spring. In an effort to stay ahead of the virus, we've launched a new industry leading monitoring strategy that involves weekly testing of a sample of team members, which has so far proven to be invaluable.
We had $540,000,000 in direct incremental COVID-nineteen COVID-nineteen costs for the full year, including about $300,000,000 of thank you bonuses and other benefits paid directly to our team members for their efforts. We managed core expenses aggressively in an effort to partially offset the increased costs related to COVID-nineteen. Our Beef and Pork segments both delivered a strong performance on the year, while Prepared Foods showed positive momentum, including a continuation of share gains across many retail categories. Our core retail lines grew volume in every quarter of the fiscal year, up over 17% during the latest fifty two weeks. Our chicken business is still performing below our long term earnings expectations.
While our Tyson frozen value added and premium air chilled products have performed strongly, other businesses have not. The biggest drivers of our underperformance are not having full staffing levels, a portion of which can be attributed to the ongoing effects of the coronavirus, operational execution and pricing. The majority of our improvement opportunity lies in reducing the mix and yield impacts of the three drivers I just mentioned, and most of this is centered in a handful of our plants. The inefficiencies driven by reduced staffing levels and poor execution has translated to higher cost per pound. We expect progress toward these issues to face headwinds from absenteeism and other COVID-nineteen related complexities during the first half of the year, but remain hopeful that a vaccine and a gradual return to normalcy in the second half will result in a net improvement for the year.
We continue to demonstrate our commitment to sustainable business practices and corporate social responsibility. Our efforts included the following: enhancing our framework to promote equity, inclusion and diversity in the workplace, including $5,000,000 in committed donations to organizations that are advancing the cause of lasting change. Our work to verify sustainable cattle production practices on more than 5,000,000 acres of grazing land in the largest beef transparency program in The U. S. Record protein donations across the country and the development and recently announced forest protection standard to reassert that we have virtually no deforestation risk across our global supply chain.
In the alternative protein space, we bolstered the company's offerings under the Raisin Rooted brand, while extending our retail presence to 10,000 stores in less than a year, entering the quick service restaurant channel and launching products in Europe. Over the past year, we have seen our plant based offerings retail sales increased over 250% and we are excited to build on this momentum alongside our customers as we meet evolving consumer demand for years to come. Now, let's discuss some high level takeaways from our fourth quarter. In The U. S, the pandemic continued to drive higher levels of retail demand and overall lower levels of foodservice volume.
While quick service restaurants are close to or better than pre COVID levels, full service restaurants continue to operate at about 80% of normal with wide variations by geography, while schools and cafeterias are operating at levels significantly below normal. These channel impacts as well as higher levels of absenteeism increase the cost and complexity of our operations. Europe has a similar operating environment as The U. S. While our Asian businesses are almost back to normal.
The continued strength of at home consumption is driving historically high retail and e commerce sales and Tyson is winning. Our retail core business lines experienced their ninth straight quarter of share growth and continue to outperform the top 10 food manufacturers. Volumes in these lines were up nearly 15% during the latest thirteen weeks, leading to nearly two percentage points in volume share growth during that period. As consumers increasingly shifted towards a little or no contact buying methods during the pandemic, we experienced e commerce sales growth of 99% on a full year basis and 126% in the fourth quarter compared to last year. With this growth, Tyson's online sales penetration through its e commerce channel partners is now estimated at over $1,000,000,000 and we expect continued relevance of this channel moving forward.
The company experienced solid results during the fourth quarter driven by strong operating income performances in our beef, pork and prepared foods businesses. The performance of these segments offset lower results in our chicken business. In total, we delivered almost $1,000,000,000 of operating income for the fourth quarter in spite of the negative impacts of $200,000,000 associated with COVID-nineteen. This represents an operating income improvement of $275,000,000 versus 2019, an increase of almost 40%. Our prepared foods business delivered strong Q4 results.
Our brands and products continue to resonate with consumers as demonstrated by our track record of share growth, nine quarters in a row. We have a balanced mix of distribution channels, giving us a resilient business model that's able to effectively react to external factors, including obstacles caused by COVID-nineteen. Improved operational execution as well as lower commercial spend also helped to drive strong Q4 results. We're also pursuing SKU rationalization and optimization opportunities across our production network. Our beef and pork businesses continue to be an important part of our company's portfolio strategy.
They generated very strong returns during the quarter, enabling investments in key value added and international growth initiatives across our business. The beef segment delivered solid earnings as the cutout margin remained strong, while live cattle prices driven by plentiful supplies remained relatively low. This was set against the backdrop of continued strong consumer demand. Our operational performance recovered substantially from the early COVID-nineteen impacts and volumes were up 31% versus the third quarter. Exports have also been strong for our beef segment, which serve as a way for us to optimize all parts of the animal, including products that aren't traditionally consumed within the American diet.
We expect to see continued adequate cattle supplies during fiscal twenty twenty one. The pork segment also delivered very strong earnings during the quarter despite a narrowing of the spread as hog costs increased and the cutout came down. The hog supply remained strong, while our plants faced less disruption and produced significantly improved volumes versus Q3. The plentiful conditions we've seen in the hog supply are beginning to moderate as a result of the industry's ongoing recovery, but we expect adequate supplies in the near term. In an effort to support the independent hog farmers who rely on us for consistent and reliable outlet for their livestock, we've worked hard to safely maximize our processing capacity.
African swine fever has persisted overseas, moving into Germany's wild boar population. This infection quickly led to certain nations banning German pork exports, which we expect to create incremental global demand for U. S. Pork. We're beginning to see some level of herd rebuilding in China, but we agree with industry analysts that a complete recovery may depend on eradication of ASF and or the success of a commercial grade vaccine.
Our view is that full recovery could still be a multi year event. Until this occurs, we expect to see a continued redistribution of global pork supplies. Within The U. S, export demand has increased at a pace that has helped to offset increased pork supplies domestically. This demand has been supportive of hog prices, which is critical for U.
S. Independent hog farmers. Our Q4 chicken results improved sequentially compared to the third quarter as we saw some recovery in our operations and experienced lower COVID-nineteen costs. However, the results were not better than our prior year as a number of the challenges, which I outlined earlier are still with us. Having said that, we've seen tremendous performance within our branded retail value added poultry lines, including more than 24 volume growth during the quarter with simultaneous volume and dollar share gains.
The impacts of COVID-nineteen on channel volumes and operating efficiency resulted in net negative volumes for the quarter and higher operating costs. We also saw a dramatic softening of the leg quarter market during the quarter, which has since leveled out. As I mentioned, we are aggressively executing a variety of operational and supply chain efficiency programs to better position us for long term competitiveness. Additionally, we are continually identifying ways to drive costs out of structure, while remaining keenly focused on operational improvements and customer service. As COVID-nineteen related absenteeism rates have improved, although not yet back to historical levels, we are focused on the operational improvement programs mentioned in fiscal twenty twenty.
We still believe the original target of $200,000,000 in cost savings as a result of these improvement initiatives is attainable. Our international portfolio continues to give us great opportunities for growth and synergy. Our view remains that the vast majority of global protein consumption growth will happen outside of The U. S. So we are positioning our company to meet that need.
During the last quarter, we found new profitable international outlets for U. S. Based byproducts that would otherwise realize relatively low values domestically. By leveraging our U. S.-based scale with our newly acquired and legacy international businesses, we've identified repeatable opportunities to margin up bulk export products into a convenient value added and retail ready format for international markets.
The benefit of these value added sales, which originate in our domestic business and are sold throughout our international network is an example of how our One Tyson approach helps us meet global demand while enhancing the company's margin structure. We'll continue to seek out and leverage these and other synergistic opportunities across our global network as we expand abroad and continue to learn from consumers in these growing markets. We also recently announced our plans to build new production capacity in China and Thailand, as well as expansion of our facility in The Netherlands. These initiatives will add substantial fully cooked poultry capacity to our network, which will help us serve emerging markets and strategic customers. And last, we plan to accelerate our focus on initiatives to ensure a competitive cost structure moving forward, which includes optimizing organizational structures and other cost reduction activities.
In summary, I'm pleased by our fourth quarter performance and I'm excited about our future. I'd now like to turn the call over to Stuart to walk us through our Q4 financial performance and fiscal twenty twenty one financial outlook.
Speaker 3
Thank you, Dean. As previously mentioned, our business performed well during Q4 and the full fiscal year, especially considering the external challenges facing our company. Now please keep in mind that Q4 was a fourteen week quarter because of the fifty three week fiscal year, which is reflected in our GAAP results. The quarterly and annual adjusted results that we refer to throughout have the impact of the additional week removed purposes. We delivered operating income of $961,000,000 during the quarter, up almost 40% versus Q4 twenty nineteen and $3,100,000,000 for the full year, up almost 5% versus last year, leading to a total company return on sales of 7.4%, up about 40 basis points versus last year.
This strong performance resulted in $1.81 of EPS for the quarter, an increase of approximately 50% versus Q4 twenty nineteen and $5.64 for the full year, up about 3% versus fiscal twenty nineteen. This performance was predicated on our flexible cross protein portfolio that has shown great resiliency during recent periods of disruption to our industry and economy. Our Q4 results include a $75,000,000 positive basis, derivative values were relatively flat. We also incurred $200,000,000 of direct COVID-nineteen costs during Q4 as we continue to prioritize team member health and safety, and those costs have not been adjusted out of our results. The reactions from our team members to the investments and initiatives we have implemented to prevent the spread of COVID-nineteen have been resoundingly positive.
Sales and volumes were both lower by about 2% versus Q4 twenty nineteen, driven primarily by the effects of COVID-nineteen, including reduced sales through the foodservice channel. Return on sales for the aggregate business came in at 9% for Q4 and average sales price was down less than 1% versus Q4 twenty nineteen. Jumping into the specific segment results, our Prepared Foods segment delivered strong performance, including operating income of $236,000,000 or 11.2% return on sales. Sales were down 1.8 and volumes were down 5.6% versus the comparable period as a result of retail strength offset by COVID-nineteen related weakness in foodservice. Operating income improvements were driven by reduced commercial spending, lower commodities and operational improvements, including the benefits of lower write downs versus last year.
The Chicken segment delivered operating income of $91,000,000 generating a 2.9% return on sales. These results include a $45,000,000 gain from derivative adjustments during the quarter. Sales were down 7.5% and volumes were 5.4 lower versus the comparable period last year, driven in large part by the effects of COVID-nineteen, including lower foodservice volumes. We were impacted by both channel shift as well as operational issues resulting from the pandemic. As Dean outlined in his prepared remarks, we continue to face challenges in our Chicken segment, but remain committed to take the actions necessary to return us to top quartile performance.
Beef segment operating income was $483,000,000 during the quarter, generating a return on sales of 12.2%. Sales were up 2.7% and volumes were up 3.8% versus Q4 twenty nineteen, driven principally by the lower comparable figures last capacity as a result of the fire at our Finney County processing facility. We don't anticipate these levels of profitability to persist into the remainder of fiscal twenty twenty one, but still expect the beef business to deliver strong results going forward. Pork operating income was $162,000,000 in the fourth quarter, representing a return on sales of 12.8%. Sales were up 1% and volumes were up almost 7% versus the comparable period last year, driven primarily by strong consumption of pork products in both domestic and international markets.
Gross margin and volume improvements completely offset higher operating costs to deliver year over year adjusted operating income growth of $135,000,000 Our international business, as Dean mentioned, continues to demonstrate great growth and synergy prospects. This business has now been profitable for the past two years, which sets the stage for strong future performance. We will continue to focus on growth opportunities and seek out additional synergy opportunities using our One Tyson framework to increase the value of our international output across the portfolio. Moving on to broader financial performance highlights. Year to date operating cash flows were $3,900,000,000 on a fifty three week basis.
Our balance sheet and leverage ratios continue to strengthen, driven by gross debt deleveraging and an increasing liquidity position as a result of strong cash flows. We repaid almost $700,000,000 of bond maturities during the quarter and our ending liquidity, which was higher than we would have originally anticipated due to strong operating cash flows was $3,200,000,000 Net debt to adjusted EBITDA for the quarter ended at 2.3 times, which included the negative effects of our direct COVID-nineteen costs. Net interest expense totaled $123,000,000 during the quarter. Our effective tax rate was 21.6% in the fourth quarter and weighted average shares outstanding were approximately $364,000,000 Capital expenditures during the fourth quarter came in at $292,000,000 while depreciation and amortization totaled $316,000,000 Our cross protein portfolio strategy provides us with a countercyclical effect during periods of weakness in specific protein markets. This differentiated capability allows us to both grow and stabilize the company's aggregate earnings over time and has contributed to a strong annual operating CAGR over time.
Our base protein businesses have continued to generate strong returns and cash flows that will fuel our value added and international growth into the future. And finally, last week, our Board approved an increase to our annual dividend of $0.10 per share. This increases our annual dividend to $1.78 per share. I'd now like to walk through our financial guidance as we look ahead into the balance of fiscal twenty twenty one. We're about halfway through our first quarter and our businesses are off to a good start.
We expect annual revenues of 42,000,000,000 to $44,000,000,000 With our strong pipeline of organic growth opportunities, we expect CapEx spending of between $1,200,000,000 and $1,400,000,000 The majority of this spending will be toward previously announced capacity additions in our beef, chicken, prepared foods and international businesses as we focus on strategic organic growth brands. We expect to manage liquidity in excess of our historical target of $1,000,000,000 and we will continue to focus on deleveraging with over $500,000,000 of notes maturing during the fiscal year. Our effective tax rate is expected to approximate 23%. Net interest expense is expected to be approximately $440,000,000 COVID costs are expected to be lower on a run rate basis than the fourth quarter, although we expect PPE and employee related payments amongst other costs to continue while COVID infections remain active. Although it's still very early and a host of factors could impact the accuracy of our assumptions, including the duration of the pandemic, we're currently anticipating approximately $330,000,000 of COVID costs for the fiscal year.
I want to stress that this is a point in time estimate based on what we know currently and the health and safety of our employees is our top priority. Some of the direct costs we've experienced as a result of COVID-nineteen have been transient, while others could be structural, specifically regarding team member wages in certain production locations. Because of this, we expect some increased labor costs as we strive to attract and retain talent in the competitive labor markets where we operate. This competition for labor is not only with other meat processors, but with a range of companies hiring similarly skilled people. As 2021 progresses, we will have a better sense of which costs are likely to continue over the longer term.
Our new plant in Humboldt will commence operations this year. And as is normal with plant startups, we will incur substantial ramp up costs. Despite the challenges we've experienced, our countercyclical multi protein business model across brands, channels, categories and geographies puts us in a good position as we orient our portfolio toward future growth. As Dean mentioned, we're proud of our team's accomplishments during the fourth quarter and are excited about how our performance sets us up for the balance of fiscal twenty twenty one. Our balance sheet, liquidity, scale and portfolio of businesses differentiate Tyson from other food companies and position us for long term growth as we execute against our strategic plan with a constant focus on maximizing long term shareholder value.
I'd like to now turn the call back over to Dean to discuss broader fiscal 'twenty one business outlook and closing remarks. Dean? Thank you, Stuart. We have a bright future ahead and we remain committed to navigate the risks and market based factors that we may face, especially in
Speaker 2
the current environment. We'll prepare for and respond to those risks to the best of our ability just as we've always done. With respect to our view on the business and operating environment, as we look ahead into the balance of fiscal twenty twenty one, we expect consumption behavior will continue to orient towards meals at home. Unless the current wave causes widespread shutdowns, we would expect to see a continuing gradual recovery in foodservice volume throughout the year. This is of course dependent on the extent of the pandemic spread within our communities, the broad availability of a vaccine and any local or federal regulatory restrictions.
As we look across our businesses, we are evaluating where we can utilize automation and technology in our work that will enable more efficient and effective collaboration and operations. Rain futures for 2021 has strengthened recently due to diminishing U. S. Production prospects from earlier in the season and record high demand in China. Prices have been further supported by unfavorable weather in competing crop producing countries and could result in overall grain costs being higher for 2021.
Remember our previous guidance that a $0.10 per bushel move in corn or a $10 per ton move in soybean yield translates to an approximately $25,000,000 change to cost of goods sold. The trade environment continues to present uncertainty, especially considering this year's elections and the potential implications that may have on trade policy. We recently observed higher freight costs due to limited driver availability and mix related load inefficiencies that are exploring opportunities to mitigate and offset this trend. This is in addition to the challenges we mentioned earlier around ensuring full staffing in our plants. Beef and Pork segment margins are expected to moderate toward more historical levels as industry capacity, live animal supplies and finished goods inventories equilibrate.
Although we still expect these businesses to generate healthy returns. At the same time, we expect stronger performances from our prepared foods and chicken businesses as we sharpen our focus on cost reduction and operational improvement. We also expect that when the virus recedes, our ability to drive business improvements will accelerate. In closing, our business performed well during an unprecedented time. Our team displayed resilience when consumers more than ever needed access to a stable and accessible food supply.
While we will continue to face pandemic related challenges in fiscal twenty twenty one, we're settling the business down to be focused on executing our long term strategy while generating strong returns for shareholders. I am excited for the opportunities ahead for this great company and I'm certain we have the people, products and strategies in place to drive future growth. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we're ready for Q and A. Ladies
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Speaker 0
And our first question today comes from Ken Goldman from JPMorgan. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 4
Good morning everybody.
Speaker 5
Morning. Good morning, Ken.
Speaker 2
Dean, you were quoted
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in the media yesterday regarding your COVID prep and you talked a little bit about it today. I did just want to clarify a little bit though, just given how quickly the virus is spreading. How do you think about how do you prepare for increased risks of labor shortages in the next couple of months, not just because of actual illness, but also because of workers maybe afraid of getting
Speaker 3
a little sick? And I guess
Speaker 4
on a tangential note, are you seeing any short term demand upticks for your products as consumers maybe pull some orders forward a little bit?
Speaker 2
Sure, Ken. First and foremost, our team member safety has been our top priority and we've taken a tremendous amount of forward looking action to make sure that we're prepared so that when they come into work every day, they not only feel safe, but they look around and see a variety of precautions that we've taken to protect them. So you've seen some announcements that we've made around hiring of nurses in our facilities. That was in anticipation of what we're seeing today. And for fear that that actually could manifest itself, we've posted a position for a Chief Medical Officer, which we're close on.
And I would say that the most important aspect of our preventative measures has been how we've acted upon the availability of testing with what we're calling our always on testing strategy, we're sampling team members as they come in and making sure that we can identify what's going on both in the public numbers in the community, but also what we're seeing from our team members coming into the plants. And that's just been tremendously invaluable and giving them comfort, that they're not at risk of catching anything. And then I would say that, it's also been invaluable to the communities in which we operate. And you might've seen an article that came out a few weeks ago in Storm Lake where a former state health official cited that the county in which we operate actually had lower COVID numbers. And she attributed that to how we're acting with our monitoring and testing strategy, much like we anticipated the need for masks early in the first wave of the crisis and chartered a plane to take proactive aggressive action to get precaution for our team members precautionary protections for our team members.
I'd say in this crisis, we've been in the second wave, we've been preparing all along and you see that in our expenses. From a demand perspective, from a demand labor perspective, I would say that, we as Stuart mentioned in his comments, we've been, we've been, bonusing our team members and just saying thank you. We know that, they have options for where they go and we want Tyson Foods to be a place where they can come to work and thrive every day.
Speaker 3
Okay. Thank you for that.
Speaker 4
That is clear. And then quick follow-up from me. You're well into the first quarter already. I know you're hesitant to talk about 2021 for understandable reasons, but is there anything we can understand maybe even directionally about how the quarter is progressing so far? Are there any unusual factors we should consider when we model just so we kind of avoid any surprises or any unnecessary surprises, so to speak?
Speaker 2
Yes. We're not going to be able to preannounce or anything like that. But what I would say is that, we are expecting beef and pork to ultimately through 2021 normalize. I would say, when you're thinking about those two businesses specifically, from a pork perspective, hogs are coming in at weight now. So we think we've worked through some portion of the backlog, although there may still be some out there.
We do expect adequate supplies through the year and beef cattle are still coming in quite a bit overweight. And so we're seeing that there's quite a bit of backlog and ample supply certainly for the year to come. Chicken, as you've seen through the reports, we are aggressively pursuing operational improvements and you've seen the leadership change we've made there both complementing Chad Martin and his exceptional leadership with Donnie King, who's an industry veteran leading the business. That's going to take some time. Recovering chicken is going to be a long effort.
We've got a handful of plants that are just not operating operational efficiently. And then the variability related to the crisis and what's happening in foodservice and some of those plants is just continuing to make that challenging, but we're working hard to make the operational improvements we need. The prepared foods has been performing strong. We're very proud of the work that they're doing there. And much like the other parts of the business, we really need foodservice to come back online for that business to be everything that we know it can, but the ability for the team to flex between retail and foodservice has been phenomenal.
Speaker 3
Great. Thank you so much.
Speaker 0
No problem. Our next question comes from Ben Schirmer from Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 4
Thank you very much, Dean, Stuart. Good morning congrats on the results.
Speaker 3
Ben.
Speaker 4
The first question I was just wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on the outlook for 2021, just following up Ken's question. Obviously, there's a lot you cannot preannounce. But just to understand a little bit the dynamics because it seems like your sales guidance at least looks for something like slightly negative to maybe 3.5% to 4% in growth on an adjusted basis. So that looks rather cautious if we just consider the significant decline we had in the 2020 in your fiscal quarter. So is that really because you still think there's a lot of headwind on foodservice from COVID?
So just to elaborate a little bit on the dynamics in terms of top line amongst the different segments, that would be much appreciated.
Speaker 2
Ben, I'd love to be able to give you some guidance. But as you've seen, if we started giving any direction a month and a half ago, we'd have been wrong. COVID impacts and increases are continuing with shutdowns both in our domestic and in some international markets. And we're just not able to we're not able to guide at this point.
Speaker 4
Okay. And then my second question, if you could just quickly go into the Chicken segment and the operating inefficiencies, if you want to call it that way. Where do you think you stand on addressing those? And you said just moments ago that this will take obviously time, but how do you think about the progression and the way to address those inefficiencies? Just putting for a moment aside COVID, I know there's a lot of uncertainty around it, but if that would not be a headwind, how do you feel about the ability to address those inefficiencies and get those operating margins into a more reasonable level just by what is in your hands to be addressed?
Speaker 2
I won't be able to give a ton of specifics, but as you know, we put out guidance before that we were going after about $200,000,000 in operational improvements in the chicken business before the crisis. And as we've reported, we were making good progress on that. And then as you rightly point out, COVID, really affected quite a bit of that. We are still making improvements every day. Our leaders are in our plants looking for inefficiencies and looking for the ways that we can get those plants running full again and back on track.
But as far as recovering that full $200,000,000 there will be some value in the recovery from COVID and food service and getting our plants back up to full operational capacity. But we are we're not waiting on that much like you've seen in the past, the shift from foodservice to retail, we've done that where we can. We've also maintained flexibility to support our fast growing QSR partners who are surpassing their original sales with their progress and drive through and takeout. And so it is going to take some resolution in COVID for us to really make the growth and expansion there we want, but we're not waiting for that. We're taking aggressive steps as we speak.
Speaker 3
Ben, this is Stuart. Just one other thing just to add to that. I mean, look, the good news here is the team's razor sharp on what needs to be done to move that business to first quartile. One thing just to keep in mind from the modeling, and I mentioned in my comments, is that Humboldt will come online later this year. That's great.
It's going give to us more capacity, but it will come with some increased costs. And you could think for modeling purposes, that can be a little less than 100,000,000 probably more weighted to the back half of the year than to the front, but it's a meaningful number.
Speaker 4
Okay. That was very helpful. Thank you very much, Stuart and Dean. Thanks. Congrats.
I'll leave it here.
Speaker 0
Thanks, Ben. Our next question comes from Alexia Howard from Bernstein. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 6
Hi there. Can you hear me okay?
Speaker 2
We can, Alexia. Go ahead. Thanks.
Speaker 6
Perfect. Okay. Can I ask about you mentioned the trends on the foodservice side of the business with the QSR doing pretty much business as usual and then full service restaurants only operating at 80% and schools, etcetera, are pretty hard hit? Can you give us an idea of how your foodservice sales break down in each of those channels, just so that we can get an idea of how exposed you are to each of those trends? Then I have a follow-up.
Speaker 2
No, we're not going to be able to break those down any more specifically. I would even say, just so you read of the situation that some of our QSR partners are actually surpassing previous volumes, which is really exciting to see for them and that's changing quite dynamically. So we'll be able to give any additional direction related to how that breaks down.
Speaker 3
Yes. Alexa, best data I can give you is suggest that you take a look at the 10 ks, which we filed this morning. If you go back in the segment data there, you'll find some breakout, maybe not quite what you're asking for, but it'll be at least give you a sense of what went through foodservice last year and what's going through there now. So part of not $1,000,000,000 lower on $12,000,000,000 Keep in mind also when you look at that data, that's fifty three week data for 'twenty, not fifty two week data.
Speaker 6
Okay. I'll go take a look. And secondly, you did feature the plant based part of the portfolio in the prepared remarks. And you mentioned I think 10,000 outlets on the retail side plus getting into the QSR channel as well. Can you give us an idea of how large that business is?
I know it was only launched last summer, so it's early days, but some idea of how big it is and what the momentum looks like right now on that part of the business. Thank you and I'll pass it on.
Speaker 2
Yes. I'll comment on the word momentum. It's got quite a bit of momentum. We have some of the SKUs really surpassing expectations related to velocity. As you saw, we've expanded to a significant number of retail stores.
You may have also seen the announcement just recently that we're kicking off a pilot with Jack in the Box. We're thrilled about that and our progress there and a variety of prospects with the business. Not giving any specifics on the side, but we're thrilled with the investment and the momentum that we've had.
Speaker 6
Great. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.
Speaker 2
Thank you.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Peter Galbo from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 2
Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Good morning, Peter. Dean, just given your comments yesterday and some of the comments today around COVID with cases climbing, I guess, one of the concerns is that plants are remaining open at this point because of the current administration's executive order.
So I guess the first part of the question is, do you have any discussions with the incoming administration about making sure that that maintains in place? And the second part of that is, is there any discussion going on at the higher levels of making sure that as these vaccines become available that your frontline workers are kind of first in line to receive the vaccine just to maintain supply chain? So I'll stress one thing that we've really put team members safety first. And as you saw through the previous waves, we have taken no hesitation to idle plants whenever we think it's the right thing to do, to either do deep cleaning or mask testing or whatever was required. And so, in this crisis, we are taking as many precautions as possible to make sure we're keeping our team members safe and that results in them feeling safe coming to work.
And that results in us being able to keep our plants up and running and feeding the world. Related to vaccine availability, work, it's too early to push forward on what that could ultimately look like. You have to consider distribution, obviously, side effect profile and a million other things when thinking about how that's going to ultimately impact your business. And from a broader perspective, our business is operating through this climate very well. What I would say is that whether it's our balanced portfolio or whether it's the protections that we've taken, the business has proven extraordinarily resilient.
And, we've heard from really every administration that they consider companies like Tyson and industries specifically around food to be mission critical for the country. And I'm sure that if the vaccine is proving to be effective and safe and our team members decided that they wanted for their own protections that it will be made available. Okay. No, that's very helpful. And Stuart, maybe just the comments that you made on freight and grain, I know that kind of the hedges you had in place in 2020 on chicken were disadvantageous from a grain perspective.
But just as grain has moved up, how should we think about those reversing into a more positive position if you're more advantageously hedged? Thanks very much, guys.
Speaker 3
Yes, guys. I mean, we've got some detail in our K. I think the best thing to do is just to think broadly about the stats I gave you earlier for the following reasons. I think the stats I gave you is $0.10 on corn is $25,000,000 $10 on soybean per ton is $25,000,000 So look at those, we've got more detail in the K. We ought to think about hedging as sort of ultimately following the basic trend.
I mean, going to create a lag. And so as grain prices go up, hedging will operate in such a way as to slow that increase in our numbers. But then you'll get the opposite on the other side. So think about the curve. I mean, curve is distinctly upward, certainly in the last month or so.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Adam Samuelson from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 2
Yes, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Adam.
Speaker 1
Hi. So I guess first I want to
Speaker 7
come back to something that got mentioned in the prepared remarks and alluded to in one of answers. And it was taking the idea of taking the chicken business back to top quartile performance. And we can look at some of your public peers and kind of evaluate that, but there's also meaningful mix differences in your business, given kind of your differences in bird class, big prepared kind of fully cooked operation that you have. So I'm just trying to think about how as you would define top quartile performance in your chicken business, given your mix, what does that actually mean?
Speaker 2
Yes, it's certainly a good question, Adam. I'd say our businesses, specifically in chicken, as you pointed out, it's very mixed. So our retail value added portfolio has performed just phenomenally through the crisis, up north of 24%. We've been thrilled with the market share gains there. And the other aspects of our business, whether it's tray pack or fresh or small bird, they're all competing and all being impacted in very different ways.
Specifically, of our has been very strongly hit by deli sales being down through the crisis. And so we watch performance really on a business unit by business unit basis. And some of the businesses that had been impacted specifically the plants due to mix and operational efficiency, that's what we're talking about and getting back up to top quartile performance on those that are underperforming in each of their given segments. And I don't think I'll be able to give any more specific guidance than that.
Speaker 5
Okay. And then I wanted to just try to wrap up some
Speaker 4
of the comments on fiscal twenty
Speaker 3
twenty one a little bit, just go through
Speaker 7
some of the different pieces. So if I'm reading the guidance right about $210,000,000 of tailwind today on COVID costs that could change $100,000,000 or so of incremental costs related to Humboldt. If I would look at grain today, I
Speaker 3
would look at take the sensitivity that you just gave Stuart and I would think it's at least $150,000,000
Speaker 7
on a gross basis. Now I know pricing offset some of that, but gross 150,000,000 or so. And then freight, I didn't catch a number in terms of what the headwind was. And then just any other kind of discrete kind of Tyson controlled expenses or things you have line of sight to that you could call out before we overlay the market kind of conditions?
Speaker 3
Yes, sure. So let me give you a couple of things. So first of all, I wouldn't necessarily say that COVID is necessarily the tailwind. Remember, gave you the $330,000,000 That is a number that is lower than this year, but I keep a close eye on COVID because that's a point in time estimate, I wanted to make sure you But I accept that for the month, that's a $200,000,000 benefit.
I'm afraid I didn't give you a number and I'm not going to give you some specifics there, but it's some pressure. On grain, the numbers you're sort of talking about, that's probably in the range. That's going to vary, by the way, based on where the price goes. The only other one I would say that you don't have in there, which we did call out during the prepared remarks, is what happens with our picture on labor. And I did draw your attention to the fact that there are some locations where we're starting to see some wage pressure as we compete for labor, not just with other meat processors, but with a broad range of companies.
That's going to take some time to figure that out. Again, the labor market is seeing a lot of disruption from COVID, and we'll see how much of that becomes structural versus temporal.
Speaker 4
Okay. I appreciate that color. Thank you.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Ben Bienvenu from Stephens Incorporated. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 7
Hey, thanks. Good morning,
Speaker 2
Good morning.
Speaker 7
I want to follow-up on Adam's questions around the guidance and in particular just on the revenue guidance that you guys provided for fiscal twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4
And if you could give us
Speaker 7
a sense of the variability that's incorporated from the bottom to the top end of the range, whether it's variability in volume or price and what that variability is predicated whether it's related to COVID potential disruptions or lack thereof. And then along the same lines of the $330,000,000 of COVID costs that you gave Stuart, I guess, if we see significant closures, absenteeism, if this year looks more like last year, how much better prepared are you guys? It sounds like a lot better prepared to mitigate the costs recognizing that your top priority is safety. Just help us gauge those if you could.
Speaker 3
Okay. So let me run through the questions then quickly. So first of all, on the top line, the big drivers for the top line, you called some of them out, I won't break them out by percentage, but certainly price is going to be a big one. That obviously has a fair bit of volatility, especially in our commodity meat businesses, pork and beef, for sure. That's going to move around.
Keep in mind also that depending on how COVID goes, so will our food service volumes, and that has an impact on our average pricing. So those are probably the biggest factors, and you might be able to make some educated guesses on each of those. In terms of the COVID costs, yes, look, some costs we incurred and they're sort of one time. We put up all the barriers. Initially masks were costing more, it's hard to find them.
So I think you're going find some of those costs either one has to be repeated or maybe aren't as difficult. But the variability is going to come with what we have to do on labor. We want to look after our employees. This is the number one priority for us. And so we will, first of all, deploy whatever is necessary from a testing or health care perspective.
We will not give people any incentive to come to work if they are sick. You need to recognize that's a cost. And then, of course, last year, a big chunk of our cost was some of the banking bonuses that we paid to our frontline employees for coming during a very difficult time. And whether or not that has to be repeated will be dependent on the outcome of COVID. Unfortunately, not an absolutely clear number, but that's because we're not facing an absolutely clear set of circumstances.
Speaker 7
Understood. Understood. Thank you. My second question is related to the prepared food business. And I know there's bifurcated results within this, but the retail is doing quite well.
And I'm curious how you guys are thinking about product innovation in midst of this operating environment. You talked about SKU rationalization as well and that may have been across your segments. But any commentary you could talk about in terms of how you're building that business for future growth as it relates to new products, and how we should be thinking about the pace of innovation?
Speaker 2
Sure. I'll comment in a few ways. First off, we spent a good amount of time thinking about the e commerce channel, which we see growing and how we package our foods to make sure that they're more accessible to click and collect, click and deliver. And that's really paying dividends as you saw in the results. We do see that even at the extent of COVID today that consumers are really getting tired of cooking at home and making sure that we have ready made foods or easy to cook or easy to prepare foods in the prepared foods business.
That has also really benefited us through the crisis. Looking forward, we know that there's stickiness and click and collect, and deliver. And so making sure that our products are even more amenable to that. And we've looked at everything from preparation to packaging across the entire Prepared Foods franchise, to make sure that as we started moving out of the crisis, we're steady and ready to deliver in that business.
Speaker 7
Okay, great. Thanks. Congrats on the results and best of luck.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Piken from Cleveland Research. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 2
Yes, good morning. My first question was on chicken. There's been a little bit
Speaker 4
of a reduction in excess recently. And I guess I'm just sort of wondering in terms of your business, should we be sort of tracking your commodity chicken piece sort of in line with those? And how historically higher feed costs have maybe led to a little bit more rational chicken production? Like how much are you sort of thinking about the volumes for your chicken business and the potential pros and cons of potentially higher feed costs?
Speaker 2
No, we're not going to be able to comment relative to industry. We'll just talk about ourselves that when we're looking at running our facilities and running them efficiently and effectively, obviously the way that we place eggs and the way that we deliver with those businesses from an operational efficiency perspective, it really depends upon the markets and what's going on, whether it's foodservice having some cutbacks or whether it's retail running away. We're always making adjustments to that and trying to do our best to run our plants full and efficient and effective. So we won't be able to comment on how that is relative to industry. Related to costs, sorry, I'll finish the second part of your question related to input costs.
As you know, some of our product ultimately goes out and prices at commodity, markets, etcetera. Some of it is contractual where input costs ultimately pass through and some of it, are fixed price that's negotiated over time. So no real comment yet on how that's playing out relative to what we're placing and what we're delivering.
Speaker 4
Great. Yes. And then my follow-up was actually related to kind of the leg quarter market I guess specifically, we saw pork prices run up quite a bit about a month or two ago and it seems like the export demand is improving for beef. What is it going to take to churn the chicken export market around to absent pause?
Are you seeing any signs of pickup? And if so, what markets? Thanks.
Speaker 2
Sure. You may have read, we've put a pretty significant amount into an initiative that we're calling One Tyson and complements our international folks that are listening in. They've done an amazing job at really taking the byproduct of our domestic production and valuing that up in the international markets. And we've just seen tremendous success in that and also working with them to rationalize our export teams and make sure that we're getting the best deployment efficiency of our products. And then our international markets are also consumers of our own leg quarters.
So we've got a lot of international further processed capacity that we see when prices come down, those businesses can deliver better margins. So we're doing everything we can to find full balance and optimization through the One Tyson network.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 3
Thank you. Good morning.
Speaker 2
Good morning.
Speaker 7
Could you just elaborate a little bit on ASF? And I know you mentioned some of the volume shifts sort of globally around the world that are being driven by that. But how much is your expected impact more likely that sort of volume reallocation versus a pricing lift? How do you think about how that impacts what you're thinking on and planning for 'twenty one?
Speaker 2
I'd say ASF is still a really dynamic situation. We've seen it dancing around Germany for some time. Now that it's shown up in the wild boar population, we're obviously looking at, as I mentioned, the global shift of production distribution. We're seeing obviously continued increased demand from China and other export markets that were serviced by Germany. But as you can imagine, the rebalancing component does mitigate some of that and make it so that the German exports end up landing somewhere else, but otherwise, were fulfilled by other markets.
And so generally ASF is not gone. And until there's a vaccine, we don't expect it to be gone. We know that all countries are bracing and doing a lot to try to mitigate. China is obviously aggressively trying to fill that hole. We've seen, a variety of efforts there.
And, I'd say it's going to continue to impact our business, especially our protein portfolio for some time, because of the counter balancing effects of each of our proteins, there'll be continued demand globally, the more and more ASF is impacting the markets, but it's not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 7
Okay. That's helpful. And just a quick follow-up on the plant based business. Is the 10,000 stores around where you had expected to be? Or has COVID and maybe shelf resets being delayed impacted that where we should expect some upside to that?
How does that look maybe going ahead?
Speaker 2
No, I'd say from a retail perspective, we've seen the uplift in our alternative protein portfolio much like we have in other parts of our business. And that's been encouraging both from a a placements perspective and from velocity perspective. The place where I think all new product launches, maybe except for chicken sandwiches have been impacted, is in foodservice. And so we've actually obviously very interested in the food service environment for alternative proteins. You've seen the recent announcements, again, with Jack in the Box.
And, we're excited about that set of portfolios, but we've not we've seen foodservice players revert a little bit back to kind of staple menu items and consolidating menu items through the crisis so they can get people through their drive throughs and through
Speaker 3
their takeout more efficiently and effectively. Okay, great. Thank you very much.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Robert Moskow from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 2
Hi, a couple of questions. One is, I'm a
Speaker 4
little surprised how difficult it is to estimate the duration of the backlog of cattle for the beef segment. Can you tell me like what are your analysts telling you in terms of like how long that could take? How long do you expect to be having higher weight cattle running through? And what makes it challenging to estimate it? And then my last question is, I was reading your Wall Street Journal article that you were in about the COVID response.
It says that you had tested half your employees. Is there any reason you didn't go forward and have tests for all employees at the plants? What's the pros and cons of that? Thanks.
Speaker 2
Sure, Rob. I'll go ahead and take your first question first. So I would say that it's worth just pointing out that in a volatile uncertain COVID environment, the hesitation you're seeing in our pace and velocity and moving through the cattle backlog is likely the analysts are probably likely expressing just as much uncertainty on the ability to produce as really being able to estimate what's going on in the field. We see adequate cattle supplies for a year plus out, and we think that's healthy for our business and we're going to be able to operate and thrive through that. And so you're probably just seeing hesitance and projecting forward for fear that there could be further shutdowns and that sort of thing and not knowing the precautions that we've taken to ensure we're going to be able to do what we can to provide adequate production and supply.
Related to the COVID response, we have a multi pronged testing strategy where we are sampling our team members, looking for evidence of what's going on in the community. And we see a community spike. We will obviously look at close contacts and if need be test an entire plant population. You'd asked about the trade offs of testing. Early in the crisis, we made the decisions to aggressively implement plan wide testing anywhere that we were seeing signal that there could be community infection.
And we found a substantial number of asymptomatic positives that were not being identified in the broader community. And I would say the media generally wasn't terribly forgiving of that. And although it was absolutely the right thing to do both for our team members, for the communities in which we operate and for our customers to make sure that we can keep our plants running. And so there's balance to that, but Tyson has taken the side that aligned with our values that we're putting team member safety absolutely first and we're testing aggressively, anywhere that we see it as needed.
Speaker 4
Okay. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2
Thanks, Rob.
Speaker 0
Our next question comes from Ken Zafflow from Bank of Montreal. Please go ahead with your question.
Speaker 5
Hey, good morning, everyone.
Speaker 3
Good morning, Ken.
Speaker 5
Just I get this question a lot from investors. I just kind of would like to see what you could talk about with this. Dean, as you went through your review of the businesses, what do you think the actual cause of the chicken operations issues are? Like where do you think it stems from? And like what happened?
Can you give us a thought on how that actually transpired?
Speaker 2
Well, in our business, we've always taken effort to value up a portfolio and build higher margin products inside given plants and facilities. And that decision was made at the expense of operational efficiency whenever protein prices were high. And we could go capture the margin in the marketplace With the correction, and leg quarters and breast meat and pricing, that makes it hard to run your plants operational efficiently. And we're now going back to basics and making sure that the plants run lean and effective and efficient. And then if and when pricing ever recovers, we'll be able to capture that margin on top.
Speaker 5
Okay. And then the second question is, it's a hard question to ask, guess, is as you were thinking about the year, there was probably a thought that maybe the outlook may not have been as good as it is now. Can you talk about what has changed to the positive, maybe thinking that initially, maybe your profitability would not as be as strong in 2021, but now it seems like you're a little bit more comfortable with the outlook. Can you talk about how things have progressed and how you're thinking about the general profitability of 2021?
Speaker 2
Well, is a little bit of my stepping into the seat, but one thing that I've just been terribly impressed with is the resiliency of our team members and of our business as a whole, and our ability to adjust and adapt to really whatever COVID or the markets are throwing at us. And so that has me confident in 2021 and in the future of Tyson Foods. I think we've assembled a phenomenal set of assets that work together to make sure that the business remains resilient and make sure that we keep food on the tables of the global consumer. And then, the strategic plan, that we put together when I was in the SAC that we're still standing by today and our ability to pick up the tempo with that is also really encouraging. The acquisitions that we've made internationally turn out to be quite symbiotic and we're finding a lot of efficiencies in the portfolio that we've assembled there.
And then the investments we've made in prepared foods just continue to surprise in their ability to both gain market share and volume growth. And all in, there's a lot of reasons to be excited about Tyson Foods today and in the future. And the word that I would use is resiliency, tied to the core business and got a lot of foresight tied to the strategic plan and how we put it together.
Speaker 5
So you're more comfortable that Tyson will actually have a profit growth in 2021. Is that a fair assessment?
Speaker 2
I'm not going to guide on forward looking profit.
Speaker 3
Maybe just a little perspective from me, Ken. I'd go back to the remarks that we made this morning. We said that we expect to see that chicken and prepared foods would improve during the year. You probably can see what is taking place in the cutout for beef and pork. So that's data you can sort of follow for the quarter so far.
But I think beef and pork will be the variable factor during the year, right? That's the one to watch, I would say, just to figure out how that performs versus how chicken and prepared perform. And we're going to know more about that as we go through the year. Of course, the other variable is COVID. I think as we get into the year through this first quarter, we'll have a better perspective.
Speaker 5
Okay. And then I'm going to sneak in one more. The comment about normalized beef and pork, don't know what that means because if I go over the last twenty years, I would say, normalizes 2% to 3%. But in reality, for beef, the last four years to be normalized and that's a whole different thing. So when you say normalized, do you really mean normalized to the old Tyson or normalizing the new environment where things are you have export demand, you have more cattle supply, same with the hogs.
The word normalized is a very opaque word. And I'm just curious to make sure that I fully understand what you're trying to get at. And I'll leave it there. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2
So I'll comment a little bit and then pass it to Stuart. When we say normalize, there's really two components. One is the historical look back on the operating margins of these businesses. But the other component is the effort that we've made to value up variety meats and off all from the portfolio to optimize our cuts and to really run the business more efficiently. And even for investments that we've made in tray pack and portioning the proteins and making them more effective and valuable to our consumers and customers.
So I make sure we think through both of those and we think about what new margins ultimately look like. Stuart, do you want to give more color?
Speaker 3
Yes. I mean, Ken, I would say just to the specifics of the margins, when I came into the business, we were talking about normalizes one to three, but certainly since I've been here, we haven't seen that. And so we sort of tossed out that idea that normalized is one to three. On the other side of things, I think if you look at the quarter, we're turning in almost 12% return on sales for the quarter. And so the question is, can beef and pork continue to operate at those levels?
And we think that over time, that will likely move back more to the middle ground, right? And so when we use the sort of more recent trends, I think, is sort of what we're talking about when we say normalized. There's a lot of global demand for these products. And I think as an analyst group, you'd want to spend some time really understanding whether or not the ground has shifted in the sense that beef is there's growing demand for beef around the world, and there are not a lot of geographies actually that can produce it. This is one of them.
Speaker 5
I agree with you, I appreciate the answer. Thank you. Have a great day, and stay safe.
Speaker 3
Thank you. Thanks again.
Speaker 0
And ladies and gentlemen, with that, we're going to end today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference call back over to Dean for any closing remarks.
Speaker 2
Sure. Thanks everyone for your interest in Tyson Foods. I want to give a big thanks to our team members, the communities in which we operate, our suppliers, our farmers and all of our investors. From all of us here at Tyson Foods, we wish you a happy holiday season.
Speaker 0
Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.