Andrew Baxter Cox's questions to Universal Logistics Holdings Inc (ULH) leadership • Q2 2025
Question
Andrew Cox of Stifel Financial Corp. asked about the Q2 impact from tariffs, the potential for restocking, and how seasonality might trend for the remainder of the year. He also inquired about the progress and timeline for profitability initiatives in the Intermodal segment, the outlook for the auto OEM and Class 8 markets, and what levers Universal can pull if the top line remains challenged. Finally, he asked what is needed for the Trucking segment to return to growth and about the short and long-term impacts of new incentives on the wind energy business.
Answer
CEO Tim Phillips explained that tariffs primarily impacted the Intermodal division via discount retailers with Chinese sourcing, but he anticipates a normal cyclical uplift in Q3. He stated the goal for Intermodal is to return to profitability in Q3 or Q4 through enhanced sales efforts and operational centralization. Regarding the auto sector, Mr. Phillips remains optimistic for the second half of the year. CFO Jude Beres noted significant year-over-year volume declines in the Class 8 space, citing headwinds from tariffs and muted pre-buy activity due to rolled-back NOx standards. Mr. Beres also detailed that the Trucking segment's performance reflects a shrinking legacy agent business and a growing wind franchise, which is expected to improve in the second half. Mr. Phillips added that new wind energy incentives should provide a steady feed of projects over a five-year period, with activity picking up in 2027-2029.