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    T Rowe Price Group Inc (TROW)

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    T. Rowe Price Group, Inc. is a financial services holding company that offers global investment management services through its subsidiaries to a wide array of clients, including individuals, advisors, institutions, and retirement plan sponsors . The company primarily generates revenue and net income from investment advisory services across various investment solutions, such as equity, fixed income, multi-asset, and alternative capabilities . These services are delivered through multiple vehicles, including U.S. mutual funds, subadvised funds, separately managed accounts, collective investment trusts, and other products like open-ended investment products outside the U.S., variable annuity life insurance plans, affiliated private investment funds, and collateralized loan obligations . T. Rowe Price also provides related administrative services, including distribution, mutual fund transfer agent, accounting, shareholder services, participant recordkeeping, and transfer agent services for defined contribution retirement plans, as well as brokerage and trust services . A significant portion of the company's assets under management is retirement-related, highlighting the importance of this segment to their business .

    1. Investment Advisory Services - Offers investment management across equity, fixed income, multi-asset, and alternative capabilities, primarily through U.S. mutual funds, subadvised funds, separately managed accounts, and collective investment trusts.
    2. Retirement Services - Focuses on managing retirement-related assets, which constitute over two-thirds of the company's assets under management, underscoring its critical role in the business.
    3. Administrative Services - Provides distribution, mutual fund transfer agent, accounting, shareholder services, participant recordkeeping, and transfer agent services for defined contribution retirement plans.
    4. Brokerage and Trust Services - Delivers brokerage and trust services to support the company's investment management offerings.
    5. International Investment Products - Includes open-ended investment products outside the U.S., variable annuity life insurance plans, affiliated private investment funds, and collateralized loan obligations.
    Initial Price$115.61July 1, 2024
    Final Price$107.11October 1, 2024
    Price Change$-8.50
    % Change-7.35%

    What went well

    • Strong momentum in retirement offerings with innovative products and partnerships: T. Rowe Price has launched Personalized Retirement Manager, the industry's first managed account tailored for individuals, and Managed Lifetime Income, a new retirement solution offering stable monthly income for life . These products, along with a custom glide path win, demonstrate T. Rowe Price's deepening leadership in the retirement market .
    • Significant progress towards positive net flows: Excluding a specific variable annuity mandate loss, 2024 net outflows would have been less than half of 2023 levels, reflecting substantive progress . T. Rowe Price expects sizable further improvement in 2025, with positive flows in all asset classes except active equities, strong growth in retirement date funds, and larger contributions from alternatives, ETFs, and SMAs .
    • Expansion of ETF franchise attracting new clients and driving incremental growth: T. Rowe Price is expanding its ETF business, reaching new buyers including advisors exclusive to ETFs, and offering strategies not available in open-ended funds . The ETF franchise includes top quartile performance ETFs, contributing to incremental growth beyond existing fund assets .

    What went wrong

    • Net outflows are expected to continue into 2025, with the CEO stating, "I think we'll demonstrate that we're on a path that will take us back to organic growth, whether we get there in 2025 or not... we'll make meaningful further progress but won't get there for the full year."
    • Investment performance metrics are soft and not where we want them. The CEO acknowledged, "I'm the first to acknowledge that the aggregate statistics as they stand today are soft and not where we want them... It wasn't a great quarter."
    • Cannibalization of existing mutual fund assets into ETFs. The CEO noted, "There has to be some element, particularly with the semi-transparent clone, of cannibalization... we can say with reasonable confidence that a substantial portion of what we're getting in the ETF business is new and incremental. But there clearly is some cannibalization."

    Q&A Summary

    1. Organic Growth Outlook
      Q: Unpack Q4 outflows excluding VA; thoughts on '25 flows?
      A: Excluding the VA loss, 2024 outflows would be less than half of 2023 levels, showing substantive progress. Seasonal redemption pressure in Q4 is typical, but underlying trends are improving. For 2025, we expect sizable further improvement as we trend toward positive flows, though we may not get there for the full year.

    2. Performance Decline
      Q: What caused the performance hit this quarter? Any actions planned?
      A: It wasn't a great quarter; aggregate statistics are soft and not where we want them. Despite this, we're confident in our research platform and expect metrics to improve as prior poor periods roll off.

    3. Institutional Backlog and Pipeline
      Q: Context around institutional backlog and funding timeline?
      A: Despite a sizable termination, our risk-weighted pipeline increased quarter-over-quarter. Over the next 12 months, we have broad-based opportunities across asset classes, with momentum in active equity, fixed income, and a strong pipeline in retirement date products.

    4. Expense Growth in 2025
      Q: How are you thinking about expense growth next year and key investments?
      A: We're aiming to align expense growth with forecasted revenue growth. Given stronger revenue momentum into 2025, our opening expense guide may be slightly higher than last year's. Investments focus on ETFs, expanding marketing outside the U.S., alternative sales platforms, and improving operational efficiency.

    5. Private Credit Opportunities
      Q: Positioning for expected pickup in private credit activity?
      A: OHA closed its first dedicated senior private lending fund at $2 billion. OHA had a record quarter with $5.5 billion in new capital commitments, bringing the year-to-date to over $9 billion, with a notable portion in private credit. We expect alternatives flow to accelerate into 2025.

    6. ETF Expansion vs. Cannibalization
      Q: Is the ETF franchise expanding reach or cannibalizing funds? Cost differences?
      A: We're reaching new buyers, including ETF-exclusive advisers, and offering strategies not available in open-ended funds. There's some cannibalization, but a substantial portion is new and incremental. Cost to access is similar to open-ended funds.

    7. Retirement Market Growth
      Q: Update on retirement market and steps driving growth?
      A: We have strong momentum across retirement offerings, including a custom glide path win. New products like Personalized Retirement Manager and a lifetime income product incorporating a QLAC have been launched on our recordkeeping platform. We aim to extend these to other platforms over time.

    8. Managed Lifetime Income Costs
      Q: How does adding an insurance guarantee affect costs and returns?
      A: The design balances risk and cost by using QLACs, which are affordable relative to other fixed annuities. The guarantee comes at some cost but offers an optimal outcome for participants.

    9. Private Markets in Retirement Plans
      Q: How close are we to seeing private market allocations in target date funds?
      A: It's hard to know due to regulatory uncertainty. The defined contribution market is fee-sensitive, and platforms aren't designed for private market alternatives. When regulatory clarity comes, we'll be an attractive partner with a range of options.

    10. Stickiness of Sub-advised Assets
      Q: What's the makeup of the other $85B client base? Why is it stickier than VA?
      A: The other $85 billion is sub-advised assets in retirement plans outside of variable annuities, which tend to be more sticky. Unlike VA, these assets don't face the same underlying pressures.

    Guidance Changes

    Annual guidance for FY 2024:

    • Adjusted Operating Expenses: 6% to 8% (no change from prior 6% to 8% )
    • Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate: 23.5% to 25.5% (no change from prior 23.5% to 25.5% )

    Annual guidance for 2025:

    • Expense Growth for 2025: Goal to align expense growth with forecasted revenue growth, with the opening expense guide for 2025 expected to be higher than the previous year's 3% to 5% range (no prior guidance)
    NamePositionStart DateShort Bio
    Robert W. SharpsChief Executive Officer, Director, and President2022Robert W. Sharps has been with T. Rowe Price since 1997. He became President in February 2021 and CEO in January 2022. He has been a director since 2021 .
    Jennifer B. DardisChief Financial Officer and Treasurer2021Jennifer B. Dardis has been CFO and Treasurer since 2021. She was previously Head of Finance and Head of Corporate Strategy .
    Glenn R. AugustChief Executive Officer of OHA, Director, and Vice President2021Glenn R. August has been a director and vice president since 2021. He is the founder and CEO of Oak Hill Advisors, acquired by T. Rowe Price .
    Arif HusainHead of Global Fixed Income and Chief Investment Officer2023Arif Husain has been Head of Global Fixed Income since 2024 and CIO since 2023. He was previously Head of International Fixed Income .
    Stephon A. JacksonHead of T. Rowe Price Investment Management2020Stephon A. Jackson has been Head of T. Rowe Price Investment Management since 2020. He was previously Associate Head of U.S. Equity .
    Kimberly H. JohnsonChief Operating Officer2022Kimberly H. Johnson has been COO since 2022. She was previously EVP and COO at Fannie Mae .
    Josh NelsonHead of U.S. Equity2022Josh Nelson has been Head of U.S. Equity since 2022. He was previously Associate Head of U.S. Equity .
    David OestreicherGeneral Counsel and Corporate Secretary2020David Oestreicher has been General Counsel since 2020 and Corporate Secretary since 2012 .
    Sebastien PageHead of Global Multi-Asset and Chief Investment Officer2022Sebastien Page has been Head of Global Multi-Asset since 2015 and CIO since 2022 .
    Dorothy C. SawyerHead of Global Distribution2024Dorothy C. Sawyer has been Head of Global Distribution since 2024. She was previously Head of U.S. Intermediaries and Retirement Plan Services .
    Justin ThomsonHead of International Equity and Chief Investment Officer2021Justin Thomson has been Head of International Equity since 2021 and CIO since 2017. He will lead the T. Rowe Price Investment Institute starting January 1, 2025 .
    Eric L. VeielHead of Global Investments and Chief Investment Officer2024Eric L. Veiel has been Head of Global Investments and CIO since 2024. He was previously Head of Global Equity .
    Jessica M. HieblerPrincipal Accounting Officer and Controller2020Jessica M. Hiebler has been Principal Accounting Officer since 2010 and Controller since 2020 .
    1. With the anticipated increase in net outflows during the fourth quarter due to both seasonal trends and a large sub-advised variable annuity termination, how does T. Rowe Price plan to mitigate the impact on overall net flows and what strategies are in place to prevent such significant terminations in the future?

    2. Given the softness in your investment performance this quarter, particularly in the one-year metrics where aggregate statistics are not where you want them, what specific actions are you taking to address underperformance in key strategies, and how confident are you in your approach to improve performance without drastic measures?

    3. As you expand your ETF franchise and acknowledge some cannibalization of existing mutual fund assets, can you elaborate on how you're balancing this risk and whether the cost of distribution for ETFs differs in a way that could impact your margins compared to traditional funds?

    4. With the launch of Managed Lifetime Income and Personalized Retirement Manager, both of which may introduce additional costs for plan participants, how do you intend to overcome the fee sensitivity of plan sponsors and demonstrate the value of these products despite the added expenses associated with insurance guarantees and customized managed accounts?

    5. Considering the regulatory uncertainties and infrastructural challenges surrounding the inclusion of private market allocations in target date funds and retirement plans, what concrete steps are you taking to position T. Rowe Price ahead of competitors once these hurdles are cleared, and how do you plan to leverage your existing capabilities in private markets through OHA to capitalize on this potential opportunity?

    Program DetailsProgram 1
    Approval DateMarch 2020
    End Date/DurationN/A
    Total additional amountN/A
    Remaining authorization4,000,489 shares
    DetailsOffset dilution from equity-based compensation plans

    Q3 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q3 2024
    • Guided Period: FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      • Adjusted Operating Expenses: Expected to be 6% to 8% over the comparable full year 2023 amount of $4.19 billion .
      • Expense Growth for 2025: Goal to align expense growth with forecasted revenue growth, with the opening expense guide for 2025 expected to be higher than the previous year's 3% to 5% range .
      • Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate: Anticipated to be in the range of 23.5% to 25.5% .

    Q2 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q2 2024
    • Guided Period: FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      • Adjusted Operating Expenses: Expected to increase by 6% to 8% over the comparable full year 2023 amount of $4.19 billion .
      • Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate: Anticipated to be in the range of 23.5% to 25.5% .

    Q1 2024 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q1 2024
    • Guided Period: FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      • Adjusted Operating Expenses: Expected to be up 5% to 7% over 2023's $4.19 billion .
      • Net Outflows: Anticipated, but with substantial improvement compared to the previous year .

    Q4 2023 Earnings Call

    • Issued Period: Q4 2023
    • Guided Period: FY 2024
    • Guidance:
      • Adjusted Operating Expenses: Expected to increase by 3% to 5% over 2023's $4.19 billion .
      • Non-GAAP Effective Tax Rate: Anticipated to be in the range of 23% to 26% .