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Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO) is a leading applied analytics company that specializes in providing software and scoring solutions to enhance business decision-making processes. The company operates through two primary segments: Scores and Software, offering a range of products that cater to both business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-consumer (B2C) markets . FICO's solutions are widely utilized in industries such as financial services, insurance, telecommunications, and retail, and the company has a global presence in over 100 countries .
- Scores - Offers scoring solutions that are integral to credit decision-making processes.
- B2B Scoring Solutions - Widely used by banks and financial institutions for credit decisions.
- B2C Scoring Solutions - Includes consumer-focused offerings like myFICO.com subscriptions.
- Software - Provides pre-configured analytic and decision management solutions for various business needs, including account origination, customer management, fraud detection, and marketing.
- Non-Platform Software - Encompasses a range of decision management solutions tailored to specific business needs.
- FICO® Platform - A modular software offering that supports advanced analytics and decision use cases.
What went well
- Significant Growth Potential in Software Platform Adoption: FICO's software platform has penetrated less than half of the top 30 global financial institutions globally, indicating substantial room for expansion. The company is in the early innings of platform adoption, presenting considerable growth opportunities. ,
- Continued Investment Enhancing Profitability: FICO is investing in its platform by adding new features and functionality demanded by customers. Despite maintaining high R&D spending, the company expects margins to improve over time due to scalability and increased profitability. ,
- Strategic Pricing Initiatives to Boost Revenue: FICO is implementing a new per-score royalty pricing of $4.95 for mortgage originations in 2025, which is less than a 50% increase, positioning the company to enhance revenue. Additionally, it reviews pricing across its portfolio annually and may apply increases to non-mortgage products. ,
What went wrong
- The non-platform software revenue declined slightly, deviating from previous trends, and is based on customer usage volumes that can fluctuate unpredictably.
- The company expects continued significant investment in their platform, which may impact margins in the near term.
- The strong Scores revenue this quarter included one-time revenues that are not expected to recur, potentially affecting future revenue growth.
Q&A Summary
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Mortgage Score Price Increase
Q: Will you raise mortgage score prices by 50% in 2025?
A: We're increasing the mortgage score price to $4.95, which is less than a 50% increase. We review our entire portfolio annually and have applied some increases to non-mortgage scores as well. -
Capital Allocation Priorities
Q: What are your capital allocation priorities for 2025?
A: Our strategy remains unchanged—we aim to return capital to shareholders through stock buybacks. We manage our leverage between 2 and 3x and believe our stock is a compelling value. -
Macro Uncertainty and Mortgage Volumes
Q: Do you expect mortgage volumes to recover in 2025?
A: We anticipate mortgage volumes will increase in the future, but the timing is uncertain. We've incorporated appropriate conservatism into our guidance given the macroeconomic uncertainty. -
Competitive Dynamics in Auto and Card
Q: Are there any changes in auto and card competition?
A: The auto and card businesses are unchanged from prior years, with very little competitive threat and continued customer reliance on our products. -
Software Investments and Margins
Q: How are you investing in software, and when will margins improve?
A: We're in early innings with our software platform, continuing to invest in features our customers want. Despite ongoing investment, we expect margins to improve over time due to increased scale. -
Software Guidance and Platform Details
Q: Can you disaggregate guidance for software and platform?
A: We don't guide at the segment level or split out platform versus non-platform revenue, as it's difficult to distinguish between them in early-stage deals. -
Partnerships and Industry Solutions
Q: Can you provide color on partnerships and industry solutions?
A: We're partnering with firms like TCS to build solutions using our decisioning IP in verticals like logistics, leveraging their reach and expertise to expand beyond our traditional markets. -
Value Capture from Secondary Markets
Q: Is there revenue opportunity from secondary market usage?
A: Many use the FICO Score without paying, as we charge for first use. While we've considered changing our pricing model, we're cautious about making changes that could disrupt markets. -
FHFA Proposal Impact
Q: How might the FHFA proposal change under a new administration?
A: The industry's been slow on the expected implementation, and it's uncertain how a new administration might affect it. Changes could be delayed or take longer than expected. -
Impact of Trump Presidency
Q: How will the Trump presidency impact FICO?
A: We work effectively with both Republican and Democratic administrations. Given our integral role in the system, we expect to continue operating as the cornerstone of the U.S. lending market.
Guidance Changes
Annual guidance for FY 2025:
- Revenue: $1.98 billion (raised from $1.70 billion )
- GAAP Net Income: $624 million (raised from $500 million )
- GAAP Earnings Per Share (EPS): $25.05 (raised from $19.90 )
- Non-GAAP Net Income: $712 million (raised from $582 million )
- Non-GAAP Earnings Per Share (EPS): $28.58 (raised from $23.16 )
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You mentioned that there was a few million dollars of additional one-time revenue in the Scores revenue this quarter that isn't necessarily in your run rate; can you clarify the nature of these one-time items and how they might affect future revenue expectations?
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Despite significant investment in your software platform and expectations of margin improvement through scalability, with high R&D spending likely to continue, when can we expect to see meaningful margin expansion in the software segment, and what specific milestones will indicate progress?
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With your aggressive share repurchase program continuing even as the stock reaches all-time highs and a PE ratio north of 100, how do you justify this capital allocation strategy over other uses such as strategic investments or dividends?
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Regarding your partnership with TCS, could you provide more details on how you are managing IP sharing and potential risks, especially as they develop proprietary solutions based on your decisioning IP in verticals where you don't currently participate?
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Given the macroeconomic uncertainty and higher interest rates potentially affecting mortgage volumes, how confident are you in implementing planned price increases for mortgage scores in 2025 without impacting demand, and what are your strategies to mitigate potential pushback from customers?
Q4 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q4 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2025
- Guidance:
- Revenue: Approximately $1.98 billion, representing a 15% year-over-year increase .
- GAAP Net Income: Approximately $624 million, an increase of 22% .
- GAAP Earnings Per Share (EPS): Approximately $25.05, an increase of 23% .
- Non-GAAP Net Income: Approximately $712 million, an increase of 20% .
- Non-GAAP EPS: Approximately $28.58, an increase of 20% .
Q3 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q3 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Revenue Guidance: $1.70 billion .
- GAAP Net Income: $500 million .
- GAAP Earnings Per Share: $19.90 .
- Non-GAAP Net Income: $582 million .
- Non-GAAP Earnings Per Share: $23.16 .
Q2 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q2 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Full Year Revenue Guidance: Raised to $1.69 billion .
- GAAP Net Income: Expected to be $495 million .
- GAAP Earnings Per Share: Expected to be $19.70 .
- Non-GAAP Net Income: Expected to be $573 million .
- Non-GAAP Earnings Per Share: Expected to be $22.80 .
- Effective Tax Rate for the Fiscal Year 2024: Expected to be around 22% .
- Recurring Tax Rate: Expected to be around 26% .
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
- Issued Period: Q1 2024
- Guided Period: FY 2024
- Guidance:
- Revenue: Approximately $1.675 billion, representing an 11% increase compared to the previous year .
- GAAP Net Income: Approximately $490 million, an increase of 14% .
- GAAP Earnings Per Share (EPS): Approximately $19.45, an increase of 15% .
- Non-GAAP Net Income: Approximately $566 million, an increase of 13% .
- Non-GAAP Earnings Per Share: Approximately $22.45, an increase of 14% .
Competitors mentioned in the company's latest 10K filing.
- In-house analytic and systems developers
- Neural network developers and artificial intelligence system builders
- Fraud solution providers
- Scoring model builders
- Providers of credit reports and credit scores
- Software companies supplying predictive analytic modeling, rules, or analytic development tools
- Entity resolution and social network analysis solutions providers
- Providers of customer engagement and risk management solutions
- Providers of account workflow management software
- Business process management and decision rules management providers
- Enterprise resource planning and customer relationship management solutions providers
- Business intelligence solutions providers
- Providers of automated application processing services
- Third-party professional services and consulting organizations
- Three major consumer reporting agencies in the U.S. and Canada (partners and competitors in scoring solutions)
- VantageScore (joint venture by the three major U.S. consumer reporting agencies)
- CRIF Ratings (operates in the European Union)
- LexisNexis and ChoicePoint (data providers)
- Credit Karma, Credit Sesame, Experian, and TransUnion (direct to consumer credit and identity services)
- Nice Actimize, Experian, Pegasystems, BAE Systems Applied Intelligence, SAS, ACI Worldwide, IBM, Feedzai, and Featurespace (fraud market for banking)
- Experian, Equifax, Moody’s, Meridian Link, and CGI (customer origination market)
- Experian and SAS (customer management market)
- Pegasystems, Equifax, Experian, SAS, Adobe, and Salesforce (marketing services market)
- Pegasystems, IBM, and SAS (decision platform market)